On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 3:46 AM, Erwan David <er...@rail.eu.org> wrote:
> Le 19/05/2014 00:21, Tom H a écrit :
>> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:29 AM, David Dušanić <ivanovne...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Systemd-shim is there to provide functions by systemd on a system that does
>>> not use it as its init system. It could be useful when you depend on Gnome 3
>>> software like network-manager but do not want to use systemd.
>>
>> AFAIUI:
>>
>> It's not clear that systemd-shim is going to be updated to deal with
>> systemd 208 (it works with systemd 204) because of changes in the
>> kernel's cgroup implementation because Ubuntu's switching to systemd
>> so it doesn't need to do so.
>>
>> So unless someone packages Ubuntu's cgmanager and patches logind 208
>> to use it (and perhaps does even more than that), it's unlikely that
>> systemd-shim will be useful in jessie as a systemd
>> mini-/micro-substitute.
>
> You mean all messages saying "it is just the default, you will have
> choice" were actually false...

You'll have the choice to use sysvinit without logind or to use it
with logind if systemd-shim & co are updated.

The list of packages depending on logind is likely to grow so the list
of packages that you can install without an alternative is likely to
shrink.


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