Re: to lvm or not to lvm?

2007-05-10 Thread Yuriy Padlyak
Have additional hard drive, which can store any data temporary, while I'm preparing main disks. I have 160GB and 60GB drives. I have plan to make 60GB raid1 and 100GB for not very valuable data on rest of the 160GB drive. Now my VG(consisting all data) is on temporary 320GB drive and my /boot o

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 08:02:00PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 07:58:29PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > yep. man muttrc to the rescue. The "lists" directive includes both the > > list *and* your own address in the f-u-to header, whereas "subscribe" >

Re: suggestions for window manager

2007-05-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
> low-resource: box only has 64 MB available. > Rock solid stable. A focus on good design and being bug-free over > adding 'features'. I recommend ctwm. But you'll have to go through editing a config file. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsub

Re: Since chvt works, the problem must be the keymap [SOLVED]

2007-05-10 Thread Amy Templeton
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 08:01:45PM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: > > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:00:19AM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: > > > > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >

Re: suggestions for window manager

2007-05-10 Thread Martin Marcher
ion3 (ion2 is) not in debian but just depends on lua-5.1 hth martin On 5/11/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 07:11:25PM -0700, BartlebyScrivener wrote: > On May 10, 12:10 pm, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are a lot of window

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:04:56PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:00:01AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 07:06:00PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > >

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 05:25:10PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/10/07 09:07, ann kok wrote: > > Hi all > > > > Can debian support swap bigger than 4G? > > $ man mkswap > > On i386, each swap area is a maximum 2GiB, and you can have 32 of them. that's just freaky A signature.asc Des

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 07:58:29PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > yep. man muttrc to the rescue. The "lists" directive includes both the > list *and* your own address in the f-u-to header, whereas "subscribe" > only includes the mailing list in the f-u header. except with the "subscribe

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:04:56PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:00:01AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 07:06:00PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > >

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:04:56PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:00:01AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 07:06:00PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > >

Re: Since chvt works, the problem must be the keymap [SOLVED]

2007-05-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 08:01:45PM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:00:19AM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: > > > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > what happens when you disable your xmodmap with

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 22:34, cga2000 wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:04:06PM EDT, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 05/10/07 11:27, william pursell wrote: [snip] >>> be sitting in the editor where you left it. It provides >>> continuity by allowing you to leave you

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 22:11, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 08:14:11PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 05/10/07 18:10, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: >> [snip] > >> And if you say "make a SSD", then I say that it's still slower than >> RAM be

Re: moto4lin & my razr v3

2007-05-10 Thread i'll teach you to turn away.
Kelly Clowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> i'll teach you to turn away. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> anyone? anyone? >> c'maaahn. please? KC> Silence on the list often means that no one has any useful info, KC> not that they are avoiding you or anything ;-) totally taking

Re: moto4lin & my razr v3

2007-05-10 Thread i'll teach you to turn away.
Jeff D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 10 May 2007 03:12:08 GMT, i'll teach you to turn away. <[EMAIL >> PROTECTED]> >>> i> hey, i'm having some trouble accessing my new motorola razr v3 JD> Have you tried bitpim? I don't have a razr, but I see that bitpim does JD> support those and I

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-10 Thread cga2000
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:04:06PM EDT, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 05/10/07 11:27, william pursell wrote: > > Tyler Smith wrote: > >> Second, and more to the (OT) point, what does screen do better than > >> multiple xterms, or shell-mode in Emacs? >

Re: OT - Dilbert on the ethics of e-mail etiquette

2007-05-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 May 10 12:00 -0500]: > On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 09:46 -0400, Manaen Schlabach wrote: > > On 5/10/07, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Almost as bad is when people top post their replies. Did these people > > > utterly fail in grade school, or are

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 08:14:11PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/10/07 18:10, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > [snip] > > > And if you say "make a SSD", then I say that it's still slower than > RAM because disk channel bandwidth is still *much* slower than > memory bandwidth. Better to spend th

Re: suggestions for window manager

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 07:11:25PM -0700, BartlebyScrivener wrote: > On May 10, 12:10 pm, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are a lot of window managers available (too many to download and > > test them all over a slow dial up link) and I'm looking for suggestions. > > Fluxb

Re: suggestions for window manager

2007-05-10 Thread Michael Pobega
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 12:45:16PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > There are a lot of window managers available (too many to download and > test them all over a slow dial up link) and I'm looking for suggestions. > > Here's what I want: > > > low-resource: box only has 64 MB available. >

Re: suggestions for window manager

2007-05-10 Thread BartlebyScrivener
On May 10, 12:10 pm, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are a lot of window managers available (too many to download and > test them all over a slow dial up link) and I'm looking for suggestions. > Fluxbox? http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/ Certainly fills the rock solid bill.

Re: grub and rootfs as LVM

2007-05-10 Thread Yuwen Dai
I don't know: it just works. As long as you have the lvm2 package installed and the initrd package was created after the lvm2 package was installed, it should just work. Hi Stefan, After I changed root device to /dev/mapper/volume-root, Linux boots successfully. And I didn't make anything

Re: [OT] Screen

2007-05-10 Thread cga2000
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 07:50:34AM EDT, Tyler Smith wrote: > On 2007-05-10, Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> First, for someone who claims not to be a *nix wizard you are not > >> very convincing. There aren't a lot of 20 year-old non-compsci

Re: (solved on my own) Re: how to use dpkg to list some packages

2007-05-10 Thread Arnfinn Ringvold
On Tue, 08 May 2007 18:00:08 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: > On Tuesday 08 May 2007 16:36, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: >> On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:02:41AM -0700, Serena Cantor wrote: >> > aptitude search \!~i~sdoc only lists 4 packages. >> > >> > surely main of sarge has far more than that. >> > > I

Re: Help Installing sun-java6-ce

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 20:03, Paulo Tioseco wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to install the sun-java6-jdk in may Debian machine but it > won't install. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk > Password: > Reading package lists... Done >

Help Installing sun-java6-ce

2007-05-10 Thread Paulo Tioseco
Hi, I am trying to install the sun-java6-jdk in may Debian machine but it won't install. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk Password: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Package sun-java6-jdk is not available, but is referred to by another pack

Re: Business card iso

2007-05-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:37:47PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 02:39:19PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > > > I went ahead and downloaded the net install for Lenny, and have since > > upgraded it to Sid. It works just fine, and the only differences so far > > that I noticed is

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 07:07:27AM -0700, ann kok wrote: > Hi all > > Can debian support swap bigger than 4G? per: man mkswap maximum usable size per swap area is 2GiB for i386 architecture with linux supporting up to 32 swap areas. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: help!

2007-05-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 10:37:08AM -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 10 May 2007 12:50:23 +0200 > Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > > Well, since some people on this list seem not to take me seriously, you > > might not want to either ;) > > Of course we take you seriously, Joe. S

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 18:10, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [snip] > > I guess I wasn't clear. I wasn't suggesting to use memory as swap. I > was wondering about ways to get swap that was faster than a disk array > and wondering if it could be farmed out to other

problems while setting up a counter-strike:source server

2007-05-10 Thread Patrick Cummings
Hi, I want to run a counter-strike:source server. I followed a guide online, it says I must run an utility called 'steam' that will update the server to the latest version. I tried to run it, but I get an error: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -ltotal 21436drwxr-x--- 2 srcds srcds4096 2007-05-08 2

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:00:01AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 07:06:00PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > [Andrew, in my mutt I hit L to reply to the list, but if you're the > > a

Re: Trimming the fat off an installation

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 18:14, andy wrote: > Sven Arvidsson wrote: >> On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 07:23 +0100, andy wrote: >> >>> I am wanting to figure out a way to rid myself of packages that I >>> don't use, orphan files, and other random bits of software detritus.

Re: Removing Gnome

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 19:38, Eric A. Bonney wrote: > I have decided that I prefer the KDE interface more than Gnome. Is it > ok to just uninstall the entire Gnome package? Is there an easy way to > remove them with just a single command at the command prompt?

Re: Installing Mozilla Sunbird With Debian On AMD64

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 18:09, Redefined Horizons wrote: > I'd really like to get Mozilla Sunbird > (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird/) running on my new > computer. I'm running Debian Lenny on a brand new Dell with AMD64 dual > core processors. >

Re: OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...

2007-05-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 04:07:19AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:58:06PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > >>Come on, we all come here for "TOPICAL" discussions and bare metal > >>Debian stuff. > > > >Cautions: Debian-user is intended for topi

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 07:06:00PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > [Andrew, in my mutt I hit L to reply to the list, but if you're the > author of the post I'm replying to, it sets a cc to reply to you. Is > this inten

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 07:06:00PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > [Andrew, in my mutt I hit L to reply to the list, but if you're the > author of the post I'm replying to, it sets a cc to reply to you. Is > this inten

Re: xen, raid and initramfs failure

2007-05-10 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
martin, et al, sorry so long in getting back to this. Finally was in a position to work on this a bit. so long sweet uptime. On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 12:07:21PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 11:45:38AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > > also sprach Andrew Sackville-W

I dont want to receive mail from Cron.

2007-05-10 Thread Semih Gokalp
Hi everboyd. I am using Debian Sarge and running clamav and freshclam on it.Freshclamconfigured with cron.its running 12 times in a day(every 2 hours) and send mail to me about cron information like below: WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED! WARNING: Local version: 0.90.1 Recommended

Removing Gnome

2007-05-10 Thread Eric A. Bonney
I have decided that I prefer the KDE interface more than Gnome. Is it ok to just uninstall the entire Gnome package? Is there an easy way to remove them with just a single command at the command prompt? Thanks -Eric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscri

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-10 Thread Amy Templeton
mmiller3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Amy" == Amy Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > mmiller3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> You might consider printing them with openoffice and then > >> asking them to explain the hardcopy to you. This works > >> especially well i

Re: passwd and ldap [SOLVED]

2007-05-10 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 10:51:46AM +0200, Martin Marcher wrote: > On 5/10/07, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 10:34:41AM +0200, Martin Marcher wrote: > >> The solution is in the options pam stack uses: > >> > >> /etc/pam.d/common-password: > >> password sufficient

Re: strange "?" characters all over the screen in aptitude, mc and other ncurses programs

2007-05-10 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 11:20:11AM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Deboo ^ wrote: > > Using Debian Etch stable version without X. Everything works fine > > since installed a few days ago except that in aptitude or midnight > > commander or even dpkg-re

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-10 Thread Amy Templeton
John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TITLE 17 CHAPTER 12 § 1201 > § 1201. Circumvention of copyright protection systems > (f) Reverse Engineering. > (1) Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (a)(1)(A), a person who > has lawfully obtained the right to use a copy of a computer pro

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-10 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 01:09:11AM +, Tyler Smith wrote: > On 2007-05-10, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > She's a user wizard, not an admin wizard. > > > > Clearly! > > > > > Screen(1) is what Unix users used before x terminals and PCs were > > inexpensive enough for everyone t

Re: Since chvt works, the problem must be the keymap [SOLVED]

2007-05-10 Thread Amy Templeton
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 01:00:19AM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: > > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > what happens when you disable your xmodmap with a "us" layout? > > > > Oh dear...this is disturbing...it works properly.

Re: getting iceweasel to use gnus for MailTo:

2007-05-10 Thread Amy Templeton
Haines Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] While an emacs session is running, I click on a mailto: > link on a web page, and nothing happens. Are you using the Emacs/emacsclient from the Debian repositories? If so, you may want to upgrade to CVS. It turns out the old version of emacsclient d

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-10 Thread John Hasler
Johannes Wiedersich writes: > So the reverse engineering of that code legally would have to be done in, > say Germany. Any reverse engineering and decompiling required to allow > interoperability with other computer programs is perfectly legal... I wrote: > This is true in the US as well. Ron Jo

Re: Installing Mozilla Sunbird With Debian On AMD64

2007-05-10 Thread Don Hayward
On Thu, 10 May 2007, Redefined Horizons wrote: I'd really like to get Mozilla Sunbird (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird/) running on my new computer. I'm running Debian Lenny on a brand new Dell with AMD64 dual core processors. However, it doesn't appear that a Debian package (h

Re: dual boot different platforms from the same partitions in a host

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 11:53:32PM +0100, Tom Vajzovic wrote: > On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 09:16 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 01:25:00PM +0100, Tom Vajzovic wrote: > > > Did you know that there are 32-bit libs available to run most 32-bit > > apps under amd64? > > >

Re: Trimming the fat off an installation

2007-05-10 Thread andy
Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 07:23 +0100, andy wrote: I am wanting to figure out a way to rid myself of packages that I don't use, orphan files, and other random bits of software detritus. If you have popularity-contest installed and have been running it for a while you

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 05:12:23PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 15:39 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 01:07:23PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 12:15 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:55:5

Installing Mozilla Sunbird With Debian On AMD64

2007-05-10 Thread Redefined Horizons
I'd really like to get Mozilla Sunbird (http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird/) running on my new computer. I'm running Debian Lenny on a brand new Dell with AMD64 dual core processors. However, it doesn't appear that a Debian package (http://packages.debian.org/experimental/mail/sunbi

Re: AMD 64 DVD Installer for Debian Lenny Hangs

2007-05-10 Thread Redefined Horizons
Doug, I did not respond to the Debian-Boot mailing list. I will do that now. Thank you for the suggestion. Scott Huey On 5/9/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 07:56:41AM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote: > On 5/6/07, Wackojacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: Debian Etch xine/totem problem

2007-05-10 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 05:05:02PM +0200, Ianis wrote: > can't create mcop directory This seems to happen when both gnome and kde are installed. I've gotten around this by starting KDE in a nested X server under Gnome, and then shutting it down. This seems to resolve the problem, although it's ex

Re: dual boot different platforms from the same partitions in a host

2007-05-10 Thread Tom Vajzovic
Hi On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 09:16 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 01:25:00PM +0100, Tom Vajzovic wrote: >> I would like to dual boot Linux i386 and amd64. >> >> My amd64 processor will run either quite happily, but not at the same >> time. >> >> I think perhaps that I

Re: [OT] inline python (was Re: [ in /usr/bin Question)

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 12:27, Ken Irving wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 05:52:03PM +0100, william pursell wrote: >> Bob McGowan wrote: >>> So, a question: Can python 'run' code directly from the command line, >>> as Perl does with the -e option? >> Yes: >> >>

Re: converting debian-AMD64 to debian-i386

2007-05-10 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:55:07PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering if any of you know if it's possible to convert a > Debian-AMD64 system to Debian-i386 without a complete reinstall. I have my > server set up to use AMD64, but it seems that the developement on the > 6

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 09:07, ann kok wrote: > Hi all > > Can debian support swap bigger than 4G? $ man mkswap On i386, each swap area is a maximum 2GiB, and you can have 32 of them. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 16:12, Greg Folkert wrote: [snip] > >> I guess that's called a mainframe :) > > No, mainframes are not really that "capable" as a holy grail to set your > sights on. Yes they operate on a different set of standards, but over > all, they w

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 05:59, Joe Hart wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> Suicide should be legal, but euthanasia is "someone else killing >> you", and I see that as a great slippery slope towards total >> government control over life. > > > Well, it isn't. Neithe

Re: Affecting Institutional Change (Yeah Right)

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 09:43, John Hasler wrote: > Johannes Wiedersich writes: >> So the reverse engineering of that code legally would have to be done in, >> say Germany. Any reverse engineering and decompiling required to allow >> interoperability with other co

Re: [OT] Screen (was Affecting Inst. Change)

2007-05-10 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/10/07 11:27, william pursell wrote: > Tyler Smith wrote: >> Second, and more to the (OT) point, what does screen do better than >> multiple xterms, or shell-mode in Emacs? >> > Possibly the nicest feature of screen is the ability to > detach i

Re: ps Start time oddness

2007-05-10 Thread Robert Waldner
On Thu, 03 May 2007 11:44:21 EDT, Matthew K Poer writes: >> I have one machine (i386, up-to-date Etch) that always displays the >> "Start" time in ps as 13 minutes (invariably) in the past, eg: >> >> qusrv02:~# hwclock --systohc >> qusrv02:~# date >> Thu May 3 12:42:02 CEST 2007 >> qusrv02:~# ps

Re: [OT] Screen

2007-05-10 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 01:38:01PM -0400, Amy Templeton wrote: > > > > You have now officially blown your cover. Just waiting for > > > > the photographic proof that you are actually a crusty old AI > > > > hacker with a long beard and sandals... aha! here you are: > > Hahaha...wow...if I were les

OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...

2007-05-10 Thread Eric d'Alibut
On 5/10/07, Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: After all, I have to "play nice" with everyone now... since my run in with a "hit and run Troll", that I couldn't seem to ignore properly. I'm sorry I missed that. It sounds like all your "friends" around here -- who you are so careful not to

Re: Linux-Debian Chat Messenger Retroshare (serverless IM)

2007-05-10 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 08:51:01PM +0200, Conny Kramer wrote: > Hello, > the new serverless Instant Chat Messenger Retroshare for Linux Release is > out. Every Chat it private and encrypted. It offers: > > Can anyone put this into the debian distribution? If you or anyone wants to get this into

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Jabka Atu
On 5/9/07, Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 12:45:49PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > > 2) The bible that you refer to is full of contradictions. If one is not > to commit murder, based in the Ten Commandments, then how can a god > request that one sacrifice one's

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 15:39 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 01:07:23PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 12:15 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > On Mon, May 07, 2007 at 11:55:56AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > Cluster? HA! Bigger Single computer

Re: Are volume labels a file-system thing?

2007-05-10 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 03:15:13PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I just discovered that the commands for reading ans setting volume labels > have 'e2' in their names, like e2label. Does this mean that I can label > my partitions only if I put an ext2 of ext3 file system on them? Or is > there some

Re: getting iceweasel to use gnus for MailTo:

2007-05-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 10 May 2007 22:54:45 +0200 Sven Arvidsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Sven, > Are you sure that's correct? According to this[0], external.mailto > should be a bool, and the app to be launched should be set in > app.mailto. You're correct. My guess is that Haines suffered a brief la

Re: getting iceweasel to use gnus for MailTo:

2007-05-10 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 10:27 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > In /etc/iceweasel/prof/iceweasel.js I put the line: > >pref("network.protocol-handler.external.mailto", > /home/brownh/scripts/mailto.sh); Are you sure that's correct? According to this[0], external.mailto should be a bool, and

Re: getting a pdf document to print

2007-05-10 Thread andy
Mathias Brodala wrote: Hi Andy. andy, 10.05.2007 18:46: I have received a multipage pdf document that has been locked so it cannot be printed. I would like to be able to print this document so that I can read it "on the road". Any ideas for by-passing the lock? You might want to try "

Re: epiphany-browser and iceweasel do not start

2007-05-10 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 19:18 +0200, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > epiphany-browser comes up, but then it most likely crashes during rendering > of > the starting page www.debian.org. I run strace with epiphany, but did not > notice a problem. For reference this output is at > > http://www.alzental-cast

Re: Is it Java or is it Iceweasel?

2007-05-10 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
Mumia W.. wrote: On 05/10/2007 11:08 AM, Dennis G. Wicks wrote: Problem Update: I have my system repaired so I have several browsers that I can use but I still have the same problem. (Keep reading!) I contacted the vendor and they said that my clock was wrong, I didn't accept cookies, and my

Re: Trimming the fat off an installation

2007-05-10 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 07:23 +0100, andy wrote: > I am wanting to figure > out a way to rid myself of packages that I don't use, orphan files, and > other random bits of software detritus. If you have popularity-contest installed and have been running it for a while you can use it to filter out s

Re: getting a pdf document to print

2007-05-10 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hi Andy. andy, 10.05.2007 18:46: > I have received a multipage pdf document that has been locked so it > cannot be printed. I would like to be able to print this document so > that I can read it "on the road". Any ideas for by-passing the lock? You might want to try "pdftk". From the manpage: >

Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 10:16:30AM -0700, ann kok wrote: > In the doc. the swap should be twice of the memory > When I have 4G memory, I create 8G swap > > ls it right? > Sort of. It should read "twice the amount of memory, up to 1 GB of swap." In general, you should *never* need that amount of

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 12:25:43PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 9 May, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > >> > > 1 Corinthains 2 > > > > 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: > > for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because > > they are sp

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
Joe Hart wrote: Faith is by definition believing in something that cannot be proven, and that is what religion usually is. It is not wrong to believe in a faith, and Roberto and Celejar do a good job of defending their religion. I expect anybody who's religion includes a meditative practice

Re: converting debian-AMD64 to debian-i386

2007-05-10 Thread Joey Hess
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was wondering if any of you know if it's possible to convert a > Debian-AMD64 system to Debian-i386 without a complete reinstall. I have my > server set up to use AMD64, but it seems that the developement on the > 64bit arch isnt really going at great speed. I'm running

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 09:11:33AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > This is a well known contradiction to biblical scholars. I don't > remember the exact verses, but the gospels state in some places that the > last supper was the passover meal and in other places state that > passover was the

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 10 May 2007 19:50:53 +0200 Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Joe wrote: > > Joe Hart wrote: > >> > >> So you're saying we're going to be the UESSR and not the USE? Oh no, > >> people will start calling us the commies. ;) > >> > >

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 07:59:56PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > > Faith is by definition believing in something that cannot be proven, and > that is what religion usually is. It is not wrong to believe in a > faith, and Roberto and Celejar do a good job of defending their religion. > Your definitio

converting debian-AMD64 to debian-i386

2007-05-10 Thread info
Hi all, I was wondering if any of you know if it's possible to convert a Debian-AMD64 system to Debian-i386 without a complete reinstall. I have my server set up to use AMD64, but it seems that the developement on the 64bit arch isnt really going at great speed. I'm running sarge, and this morning

Re: Remote desktop into my linux server

2007-05-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 02:42:50PM -0400, Eric A. Bonney wrote: > I am currently using VNC to remote desktop into my server that is in the > basement when I need to make configuration changes. It works just fine, > but the only issue is that I have to remain logged into the system in > order f

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 10 May 2007 04:58:59 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > And I believe that a little hypocrisy is a good thing, and needed > for the smooth functioning of society. Well, hypocrisy is the tribute that vice pays to virtue, and I've always understood that as a positive thi

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 10 May 2007 11:40:01 +0200 Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] > >> I am playing the Devil's advocate here. So I might as well fulfill my > >> role. So, you're saying God was merciful on Isaac because a la

getting iceweasel to use gnus for MailTo:

2007-05-10 Thread Haines Brown
In /etc/iceweasel/prof/iceweasel.js I put the line: pref("network.protocol-handler.external.mailto", /home/brownh/scripts/mailto.sh); The executable script ~/scripts/mailto.sh has in it: #!/bin/bash # $Id: mailto.sh,v 1.5 2007/02/04 07:03:32 brownh Exp $ /usr/bin/emacsclient

Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

2007-05-10 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joe Hart wrote: [snip] > I say Germany is less free than The Netherlands. I can do things like > post on the internet how one can download libdvdcss2 so they can play > CDs. If I lived in Germany I would be breaking the law by doing that, > because

Announce: DebianArt

2007-05-10 Thread André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira
Hi all, The Debian Desktop[1] team is pleased to announce DebianArt [2]. DebianArt is a place for high quality artwork and themes for the Debian Desktop. The idea is use the website for contests, creating an archive of user contributed artwork that can be freely used and included in upcoming Debi

Re: getting a pdf document to print

2007-05-10 Thread andy
Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 17:46 +0100, andy wrote: I have received a multipage pdf document that has been locked so it cannot be printed. I would like to be able to print this document so that I can read it "on the road". Any ideas for by-passing the lock? In Evince

Re: suggestions for window manager

2007-05-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 12:45:16PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > I used to use icewm but the configuration and menu-editing apps don't > seem to be in etch. My .icewm/preferences has 10 lines excluding comments. I never edit the menu because my main apps are in .icewm/toolbar which has a

Re: OT: Can't we just drop all the OT stuff...

2007-05-10 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 12:58 -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > Come on, we all come here for "TOPICAL" discussions and bare metal > Debian stuff. [snip] > Oh, wait. No. Joe? you are the one supposedly doing this. > > For those of you not in the know: Yes, I am being facetious and > sarcastic, by a long

Re: getting a pdf document to print

2007-05-10 Thread Ralph Katz
On 05/10/2007 02:47 PM, P Kapat wrote: > On 5/10/07, Ralph Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 05/10/2007 12:46 PM, andy wrote: >> > Hi all >> > >> > I have received a multipage pdf document that has been locked so it >> > cannot be printed. I would like to be able to print this document so >> >

Re: [OT] Good, evil and religion [WAS] Re: A way to compile 3rd party modules into deb system?

2007-05-10 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 9 May 2007 11:38:11 -0400 Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 09:08:28AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > Or better Biblical scholarship. > > > > By using the KJV, you are saying that Biblical scholars have not > > learned any more Greek or Hebrew in

Re: suggestions for window manager

2007-05-10 Thread didier gaumet
On Thu, 10 May 2007 12:45:16 -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: Hi Doug, I have had roughly the same requirements for a lightweight wm on an old laptop (Pentium 133 and 32MB ram, NetBSD 3.0). After having tried fluxbox, blackbox, icewm and many others, I found that WindowMaker was not slower but

Re: Repair SD card

2007-05-10 Thread H.S.
Shrinivasan T wrote: Friends. I get the "Card Error" in my Aiptec Digital Camera. How to repair the card? I dont want any data from that. Thanks, T.Shrinivasan. I was having trouble when reading cards via a card reader. It turned out that one of contact pins in the card reader which make

Re: Remote desktop into my linux server

2007-05-10 Thread Carl Fink
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 02:42:50PM -0400, Eric A. Bonney wrote: > I am currently using VNC to remote desktop into my server that is in the > basement when I need to make configuration changes. It works just fine, > but the only issue is that I have to remain logged into the system in > order f

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