On Thu, 10 May 2007 19:50:53 +0200 Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Joe wrote: > > Joe Hart wrote: > >> > >> So you're saying we're going to be the UESSR and not the USE? Oh no, > >> people will start calling us the commies. ;) > >> > > > > No, I didn't mean to say that's what it will be called, just that the > > EU has very much more in common with the USSR than with the USA, and > > that it could be seen as quite offensive to use the term 'United States' > > in relation to Europe. The EU Constitution is about as far away from the > > US Constitution as it is possible to get. > > > > There's been a few murmurs from some old USSR satellite countries now > > in the EU that they thought they'd got away from that kind of thing... > > > > > Well, the EU constitution has not been ratified, and I agree with you > that it is a bad thing. That's why I (and the majority of the Dutch and > French people) voted against it. Some European countries have not had a I understood that much of the French opposition to it was due to their wanting to *preserve* certain aspects of their current socialistic system and the EU rules would have forced them to add more freedom to their economy. Am I mistaken? > referendum specifically because they are afraid their populous will vote > against it. > > However, going so far as to say that it is closer to the USSR than to > the USA is going quite overboard. As for freedoms, can you go anywhere > in the world you want to? Oh, that's right. You cannot enjoy legally a > Cuban cigar, nor can you legally visit the pristine beaches in that country. Lovely. When we slapped the USSR with the Jackson-Vanik sanctions because of its civil rights offenses, did that upset you because your freedoms were thereby restricted? > Really, I have seen both sides of the Atlantic Ocean, I lived 30 years > in the USA, and I know the laws, and I thought I was free when I was > there. It is just in the last few years I have come to realize that the > American propaganda machine was in full swing. It still is. Tell me, > why is the World News dominated by American news when it comes on the > television? Why is CNN International different in the US than it is in > Europe? What does the news coverage have to do with freedom? Are you alleging government control of the media here? And you *still* haven't really explained why you feel so much freer there than here, other than your ability to ask your doctor to kill you, and before that, to download libdvdcss. [I'm not convinced the McCarthyism situation here is as bad as you think it is.] > Joe Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
