openoffice and remote files

2007-03-29 Thread Michael Ott
Hi! The last few month I opened documents which was on my server in the internet using ssh. It works great. But since yesterday I can only open these documente read only. Why that? Is this a bug? Using the experimental version of Openoffice and Gnome CU Michael

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Paul Walsh
Seth Goodman wrote: > Most people could not complete a Linux install without a phone call to > tech support. I suspect that's one part of the reason there are so > few no-OS boxes. When the install doesn't turn out right, their first > call is to the people who sold them the hardware, even thoug

post Header update probs with KDE apps

2007-03-29 Thread andy
Hiya The software update installed new headers, etc. today and instructed me to reboot in order to load up new modules, even though the header was the same as my existing header (I'm sorry this is not clearer - I'd just stumbled out of bed). When I did so I found that KSCD and KMail - which o

Re: partitions do not end on cylinder boundaries

2007-03-29 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Baron wrote: > On Thursday 29 March 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Still, I would recommend that you request your money back and use a >> decent free program like gparted to do the partitioning. �Explain that >> the product is defective becaus

Re: ati propriety drivers + etch = floating point exception in various programs

2007-03-29 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 21:46 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: >> Excuse me, he said Etch, not Sid and installing something from >> experimental in Etch is almost sure to cause problems. > > From his post, > "Today I installed sid

Re: partitions do not end on cylinder boundaries

2007-03-29 Thread David Baron
On Thursday 29 March 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Still, I would recommend that you request your money back and use a > decent free program like gparted to do the partitioning.  Explain that > the product is defective because it creates invalid partitions, and show > them the error you see. Th

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:38:04PM +1000, CaT wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 12:19:39AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > The sensible way to handle hardware support independent of any installed > > > software would be to ship each pc with a bootable CD

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:38:04PM +1000, CaT wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 12:19:39AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > The sensible way to handle hardware support independent of any installed > > > software would be to ship each pc with a bootable CD

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread CaT
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 02:38:04PM +1000, CaT wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 12:19:39AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > The sensible way to handle hardware support independent of any installed > > > software would be to ship each pc with a bootable CD with custom Dell test > > > software. Linux w

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread CaT
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 12:19:39AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > The sensible way to handle hardware support independent of any installed > > software would be to ship each pc with a bootable CD with custom Dell test > > software. Linux would make a convenient base for such a CD. > This is somethin

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:31:07PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Kevin Mark writes: > > the cost of dell (or other products) includes window support and payments > > from Microsoft and other software makers. This is almost the 'profit' to > > dell. With

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Mihira Fernando
Michael Pobega wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:00:27PM +0100, José Santos wrote: > Anyway, after what happened recently with HP[0] and Dell's unwillingness > to comment on HP's actions I'd be pretty paranoid. > > (Not sure if this was posted in this comment yet, but two times > doesn't matter

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 22:31 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Kevin Mark writes: > > the cost of dell (or other products) includes window support and payments > > from Microsoft and other software makers. This is almost the 'profit' to > > dell. With an o/s less computer, they would not get this 'profit'

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread John Hasler
Kevin Mark writes: > the cost of dell (or other products) includes window support and payments > from Microsoft and other software makers. This is almost the 'profit' to > dell. With an o/s less computer, they would not get this 'profit'... You are not making sense. Rest assured that there is a _

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-29 Thread dave
on Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:22:59PM -0400 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > Of course, wounding the enemy is nearly *always* more desirable than > outright killing him. That is because every wounded soldier takes at > least one other soldier (or other person, even if not a soldier) in > order to care f

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-29 Thread dave
on Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:46:15AM + Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..even killing the enemy is illegal if you can "just" wound him to put > him out of the war, the most effective way is have your snipers plink > femurs at balls height. ;o) > Hmm. The 50 cal. sniper rifle in use today goes thro

Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-29 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:46:23 -0400 Nick Lidakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nick Lidakis wrote: > > Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>> No. It is not. That's why I went to the trouble of downloading > >>> 2.6.20 from > >>> kernel.org. These are my options in either kernel: > >>> > >> > >> The stock

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 08:47:37PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:22:59PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > > > Of course, wounding the enemy is nearly *always* more desirable than > > outright killing him. That is because every wounded soldier takes at > > least on

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-29 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 21:25 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Greg Folkert writes: > > I can't imagine why they would scan 138 and 139... > > Netbios. Whoops, I fergetted the sarcasm sign. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Novell's Directory Services is a competitive product to Microsoft's Active Directory

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-29 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:22:59 -0400 Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:46:15AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > ..even killing the enemy is illegal if you can "just" wound him to put > > him out of the war, the most effective way is have your snipers plin

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:22:59PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:46:15AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > ..even killing the enemy is illegal if you can "just" wound him to put > > him out of the war, the most effective way is have your snipers plink > > femurs

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-29 Thread John Hasler
Greg Folkert writes: > I can't imagine why they would scan 138 and 139... Netbios. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-29 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 22:22 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:46:15AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > ..even killing the enemy is illegal if you can "just" wound him to put > > him out of the war, the most effective way is have your snipers plink > > femurs at bal

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Mar 30, 2007 at 01:46:15AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..even killing the enemy is illegal if you can "just" wound him to put > him out of the war, the most effective way is have your snipers plink > femurs at balls height. ;o) > Of course, wounding the enemy is nearly *always* mor

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-29 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 19:56 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 03/29/07 19:12, cga2000 wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 07:59:48AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] > >> Maybe, but I doubt it. Usually ISPs just block 80, 25 & 20/21. > > > > IOW, they have no clue what's really going on .. :-) > > I

Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-29 Thread Nick Lidakis
Nick Lidakis wrote: Stefan Monnier wrote: No. It is not. That's why I went to the trouble of downloading 2.6.20 from kernel.org. These are my options in either kernel: The stock 2.6.18-4-686 kernel has it enabled, but the 2.6.18-4-686-bigmem doesn't have it at all (not even disabled).

Re: problems with accessing X apps with ssh

2007-03-29 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 01:14 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote: > I have to admit that I am confused when discussing clients, and servers with > working with SSH. > > Anyway here goes. I can ssh from Etch (192.168.0.8) to either FC1 > (192.168.0.228), or FC2 (192.168.0.230), and get stuff from Etch displa

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Kevin Mark
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 04:20:52PM -0500, Seth Goodman wrote: > Celejar wrote on Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:27 AM -0600: > > > That's what I never get about this whole business; I want them to do > > linux to *lower* the cost by the cost of the window

Re: OT: sponge burning!

2007-03-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:25:45 -0400, Celejar wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 23:03:00 + (UTC) Arnt Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> ..nukes will often (but not always) be illegal for precisely that >> reason, _excessive_ collateral damage, "a little is ok", a few oth

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-29 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:56:06 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/29/07 19:12, cga2000 wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 07:59:48AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] > >> Maybe, but I doubt it. Usually ISPs just block 80, 25 & 2

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 19:12, cga2000 wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 07:59:48AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] >> Maybe, but I doubt it. Usually ISPs just block 80, 25 & 20/21. > > IOW, they have no clue what's really going on .. :-) I'm sure they have many

Re: gps navigation, maps

2007-03-29 Thread Owen Heisler
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 12:37 -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > I found a new one recently that I have not yet used in the car. > . There is a Debian package. Thanks: I hadn't found this one yet. Another is roadmap: http://roadmap.digitalomaha.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a

Re: Truetype Fonts Sarge 3.1

2007-03-29 Thread cga2000
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:52:24AM EST, Dave Walker wrote: [..] > Thanks, all for the suggestions. You're very welcome. Thanks, cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: global enviroment var. etc/profile or where?

2007-03-29 Thread Jeff Dickison
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Fernando Cacciola wrote: Hi again, I need to setup a global (all users) enviroment variable (for compilation), which must be available both in terminal sessions as well as KDE (so the "makefile" works both when calling make from a bash shell or KDevelop). First I've put in

Re: sarge + dist-upgrade = ?

2007-03-29 Thread Glen Pfeiffer
Fernando Cacciola wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >> You still have sarge, unless you changed the sources.list to >> point to something else. You've got the most recent sarge w/ >> security updates (I think that is on by default). I guess >> that's 3.1 r3 or so. > > Q: That's because "Etch"

Re: problems with accessing X apps with ssh

2007-03-29 Thread Nigel Henry
On Wednesday 28 March 2007 21:48, Andrei Popescu wrote: > Nigel Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm having a problem accessing X apps from FC2 to Debian Etch using > > ssh. I can ssh in to Etch ok, and can display stuff like lsmod on > > FC2's CLI, but if I try to run Gedit, Kwrite, or any oth

Re: How to run fetchmail as daemon at startup

2007-03-29 Thread cga2000
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 07:59:48AM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/28/07 19:18, cga2000 wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2007 at 12:05:58PM EST, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > [..] > > > >>> So the first thing he needs is a friendly ISP. I don't think >

Re: sarge + dist-upgrade = ?

2007-03-29 Thread Raquel
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 19:16:20 -0300 "Fernando Cacciola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > >You still have sarge, unless you changed the sources.list to > >point to something else. You've got the most recent sarge w/ > >security updates (I think that is on by default). I

Re: global enviroment var. etc/profile or where?

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 17:32, Fernando Cacciola wrote: > Hi again, > > I need to setup a global (all users) enviroment variable (for compilation), > which must be available both in terminal sessions as well as KDE (so the > "makefile" works both when calling m

Re: apt-listbugs error retrieving bugreports

2007-03-29 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 17:46 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > It wouldn't cancel for me, everytime I Ctrl+C'd to try to maybe cancel > the bug retrieving it cancelled the entire install process. I had to > purge it to get APT installing packages again. I would guess moving /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10apt-l

global enviroment var. etc/profile or where?

2007-03-29 Thread Fernando Cacciola
Hi again, I need to setup a global (all users) enviroment variable (for compilation), which must be available both in terminal sessions as well as KDE (so the "makefile" works both when calling make from a bash shell or KDevelop). First I've put in ~/.bashrc, but then is not there when compilin

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread John Hasler
Sven Arvidsson writes: > The Mozilla Corporation is for-profit... And is wholly-owned by the not-for-profit (and charitable) Mozilla Foundation. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Co

Re: sarge + dist-upgrade = ?

2007-03-29 Thread Fernando Cacciola
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >You still have sarge, unless you changed the sources.list to point to >something else. You've got the most recent sarge w/ security updates >(I think that is on by default). I guess that's 3.1 r3 or so. OK. Q: That's because "Etch" is not yet "the official latest De

Re: sarge + dist-upgrade = ?

2007-03-29 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Thu Mar 29, 2007 at 14:57:47 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 06:50:40PM -0300, Fernando Cacciola wrote: > > Hi All > > > > I just installed Debian Sarge from a 1-year old netinst CD on a HP > > Pavillion > > 1125LA notebook. > > > > Then I run apt-get dist

Re: sarge + dist-upgrade = ?

2007-03-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 06:50:40PM -0300, Fernando Cacciola wrote: > Hi All > > I just installed Debian Sarge from a 1-year old netinst CD on a HP Pavillion > 1125LA notebook. > > Then I run apt-get dist-upgrade. > > What do I have now then? Still Sarge? 3.0, 3.1? You still have sarge, unless

sarge + dist-upgrade = ?

2007-03-29 Thread Fernando Cacciola
Hi All I just installed Debian Sarge from a 1-year old netinst CD on a HP Pavillion 1125LA notebook. Then I run apt-get dist-upgrade. What do I have now then? Still Sarge? 3.0, 3.1? TIA Fernando Cacciola -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tr

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Michael Pobega
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:00:27PM +0100, José Santos wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > I tend to be cautious when reading such announcements from a major > manufacturer like Dell. > > Lets hope for the best. > I agree, I'm pretty skeptical when it comes to big businesses and GNU/Linux. As far

Re: apt-listbugs error retrieving bugreports

2007-03-29 Thread Michael Pobega
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:28:28PM +0100, michael wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 07:03 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 01:58:44PM +0200, Jean Monnat wrote: > > > > > > Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > > For the last few days apt-listbugs is failing with the following > > > >

Re: apt-listbugs error retrieving bugreports

2007-03-29 Thread michael
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 07:03 -0400, Michael Pobega wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 01:58:44PM +0200, Jean Monnat wrote: > > > > Anthony Campbell wrote: > > > For the last few days apt-listbugs is failing with the following > > > message: > > > > > > Connection timed out - connect(2) (bugs.donarmst

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 03:36:58PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 26 Mar, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 05:10:19AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ... > >> > >> ..anything on "international courts" or "the 4 Geneva Conventions"? > >> > > Nope. What I find interesting

Re: Any feedback on Icedove?

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 15:47, Ed G wrote: > On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:31:20 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> OK. Are "you all" using some sort of session-saver plugin? > > No. I am not using any sort of session-saving plugin on my set up. Hmmm. Any other plugins?

RE: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Seth Goodman
Celejar wrote on Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:27 AM -0600: > That's what I never get about this whole business; I want them to do > linux to *lower* the cost by the cost of the windows license. I > suppose they're targeting people who want the convenience, not the > cost saving. I think that's exac

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Wackojacko
Michael Marsh wrote: On 3/29/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 03/29/07 11:37, Michael Marsh wrote: > On 3/29/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> IOW, sure they could try to sell add space on the Linux desktop, but >> who would buy it? Oracle? Veritas? > > Google? Why?

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread José Santos
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:59:35AM -0300, Cassiano Leal wrote: >>> Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 09:34, Sven Arvidsson wrote: >>

Re: Any feedback on Icedove?

2007-03-29 Thread Ed G
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:31:20 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > OK. Are "you all" using some sort of session-saver plugin? No. I am not using any sort of session-saving plugin on my set up. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:59:35AM -0300, Cassiano Leal wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 09:34, Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:55 +0100, Paul Walsh wrote: Passed to me by a colleague: http://news

Re: Reporting a bug (was: fglrx driver problems)

2007-03-29 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On my surprise, today I checked again and saw direct rendering is enabled. It looks like the problem was reaired in some recent kernel upgrade, but I didn't notice it yesterday, because two days ago I uninstalled libgl1-mesa-dri, because it was listed by deborphan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: ati propriety drivers + etch = floating point exception in various programs

2007-03-29 Thread Marko Randjelovic
Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 21:46 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: Excuse me, he said Etch, not Sid and installing something from experimental in Etch is almost sure to cause problems. From his post, "Today I installed sid to check whether that bug was solved but

Re: ati propriety drivers + etch = floating point exception in various programs

2007-03-29 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 21:46 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > Excuse me, he said Etch, not Sid and installing something from > experimental in Etch is almost sure to cause problems. From his post, "Today I installed sid to check whether that bug was solved but no luck." At the moment, exp

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 21:52 +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > > If I'm not mistaken, Google have some similar deal with the Mozilla > > Corporation, that's why Firefox ships with the little search box set to > > Google. > > > > Ah, you mean the same search box that is on iceweasel and on konqueror. > Do

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 14:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 26 Mar, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 05:10:19AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> ... >>> ..anything on "international courts" or "the 4 Geneva Conventions"? >>> >> Nope. What I find

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-29 Thread Steve Lamb
anoop aryal wrote: > i'll take etch when it's good and ready and not a day before. i'd rather have > a working OS, free of bugs, late than a half baked, bug-ridden POS, on time. Then you'll be waiting forever because even Debian does not ship stable releases "free" of bugs. -- Stev

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:42 -0400, Michael Marsh wrote: >> On 3/29/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On 03/29/07 11:37, Michael Marsh wrote: Google? >>> Why? >> Granted, their market penetration is pretty signi

Re: a dumb query? pls humor me

2007-03-29 Thread judd
On 26 Mar, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Mon, Mar 26, 2007 at 05:10:19AM +, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ... >> >> ..anything on "international courts" or "the 4 Geneva Conventions"? >> > Nope. What I find interesting is that you claimed that Bush issued > some executive allowing him to "evade" wa

Re: ati propriety drivers + etch = floating point exception in various programs

2007-03-29 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 21:42 +0300, metalqga wrote: >> I can't use my ati radeon 9550 graphics card since I installed Etch. I >> need the ati propriety drivers, because I need the tvout and a proper 3d >> acceleration; things

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-29 Thread Paul E Condon
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:36:22AM -0700, Michael M. wrote: > On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 09:37 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > As was already pointed out, if you want the latest and greatest, then > > run with testing or unstable. I wager that they are easily as stable > > (if not more so) than

Re: partitions do not end on cylinder boundaries

2007-03-29 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rick Dooling wrote: > Hello, > > I had Windows XP on a ThinkPad T40. I used partition > magic 8 to create a 20 gig empty partition at the end > of logical drive E before installing Debian Etch. > > Installation went fine. I can boot to both Windows X

Re: ati propriety drivers + etch = floating point exception in various programs

2007-03-29 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 21:42 +0300, metalqga wrote: > I can't use my ati radeon 9550 graphics card since I installed Etch. I > need the ati propriety drivers, because I need the tvout and a proper 3d > acceleration; things the free driver cannot deliver. If I'm not mistaken, the 9550 is using a

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:42 -0400, Michael Marsh wrote: > On 3/29/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 03/29/07 11:37, Michael Marsh wrote: > > > Google? > > > > Why? > > Granted, their market penetration is pretty significant already, but I > meant it more to be illustrative. On the

Re: apache-mpm-prefork debian perfomance tuning

2007-03-29 Thread anoop aryal
On Tuesday 27 March 2007 08:44, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 03:03:11PM +0530, Siju George wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Just wondering for what amount of Load the default configuration of > > apache2-mpm-prefork in Sarge is tuned? > > > > Will it server well about 1,000 users simul

ati propriety drivers + etch = floating point exception in various programs

2007-03-29 Thread metalqga
I can't use my ati radeon 9550 graphics card since I installed Etch. I need the ati propriety drivers, because I need the tvout and a proper 3d acceleration; things the free driver cannot deliver. The problem is that after I install the fglrx drivers I cannot run various programs: totem, oper

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Michael Marsh
On 3/29/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 03/29/07 11:37, Michael Marsh wrote: > On 3/29/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> IOW, sure they could try to sell add space on the Linux desktop, but >> who would buy it? Oracle? Veritas? > > Google? Why? Granted, their market

Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock

2007-03-29 Thread Michael M.
On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 09:37 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > As was already pointed out, if you want the latest and greatest, then > run with testing or unstable. I wager that they are easily as stable > (if not more so) than other popular distros (like FC, for example). As stated, I've been

pvscan in initramfs

2007-03-29 Thread Kay Obermueller
Hello everyone, with the initramfs-tools I copied the executable of pvscan into /sbin of initrd.img. I also created a boot script within the initramfs to call pvscan -v. But everything it does is to print this output: "No program "pvscan" found for your current version of LVM" After this the volume

update to latest etch caused multiple problems - can't boot, no sound

2007-03-29 Thread John Lee
first of all I cannot boot after update. traced and find out some strange problems: 1. sd_mod won't load. my system is running on SATA so mdadm will fail to assemble my (/home) md0. also the system will not be able to mount (/root) /dev/sda1 since all /dev/sda* were not there. 2. change grub

update to latest etch caused multiple problems - can't boot, no sound

2007-03-29 Thread John Lee
first of all I cannot boot after update. traced and find out some strange problems: 1. sd_mod won't load. my system is running on SATA so mdadm will fail to assemble my (/home) md0. also the system will not be able to mount (/root) /dev/sda1 since all /dev/sda* were not there. 2. change grub

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Andrei Popescu
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/29/07 06:15, Max Hyre wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> There will be a limited number of models and they'll be more > >> expensive (if for no other reason than companies like Symantec > >> can't s

Re: Openssh-server installation in etch

2007-03-29 Thread Michael Pobega
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 02:34:17PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Michael Pobega wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 07:14:02PM +0800, Tim Yang wrote: > >> I agree it could be good for secuirity, but it was > >> not implemented before. > >> Every distri

Re: sound blaster card

2007-03-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:43:11AM +0100, michael wrote: > On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 11:36 +0100, michael wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 01:36 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > > > regardless, do you know which module? and can you manually insert it to > > > see what happens? > > > > >

Re: apache-mpm-prefork debian perfomance tuning

2007-03-29 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:01:02PM +0530, Siju George wrote: > > Again comming back to using Etch there is one more thing to be careful > right? > > The apt source.list will contain the keyword "testing" for Etch now. > Once it is released as stable that should also be changed to stable in > all

Re: daylight saving

2007-03-29 Thread John Hasler
Jonathan Wilson writes: > Try including "RTC" in your searches. I belive that the RTC (real time > clock) must be always referencing the timezone file, but I don't know > more than that (I may be wrong, but I think it would have to, at least > periodically). No. The RTC is normally set to UTC and

Re: security.debian.org Problem?

2007-03-29 Thread Raquel
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:30:04 -0700 Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:21:12 -0400 > Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have had a problem with security.debian.org for a few days > > now. Either it isn't there or when it is, it times out. > > > > Is anyone else

Re: daylight saving

2007-03-29 Thread John Hasler
Arnau writes: > I'm intrigued about how linux changes the time according to the daylight > saving time rules. It doesn't. Linux keeps time in UTC. > I know that those rules are stored in /usr/share/zoneinfo/ but I don't > know which process does this change... There is no change. Processes whi

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 11:59:35AM -0300, Cassiano Leal wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >On 03/29/07 09:34, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > >>On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 14:55 +0100, Paul Walsh wrote: > >>>Passed to me by a colleague: > >>> > >>>http://news.b

Re: apache-mpm-prefork debian perfomance tuning

2007-03-29 Thread Siju George
On 3/29/07, Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 09:36:28PM +0530, Siju George wrote: > > Which means Security updates for Sarge will stop soon right? > And I will need to upgrade all the Sarge servers on the net soon :-) > Security support for Sarge will continue

Re: security.debian.org Problem?

2007-03-29 Thread Raquel
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:21:12 -0400 Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have had a problem with security.debian.org for a few days now. > Either it isn't there or when it is, it times out. > > Is anyone else having this problem or is it just me? > > VT1 root-3-TESTING:~# aptitude -y upgrade

Re: security.debian.org Problem?

2007-03-29 Thread Matthew K Poer
Wayne Topa wrote: > I have had a problem with security.debian.org for a few days now. > Either it isn't there or when it is, it times out. > > Is anyone else having this problem or is it just me? > > VT1 root-3-TESTING:~# aptitude -y upgrade > Get:1 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main

partitions do not end on cylinder boundaries

2007-03-29 Thread Rick Dooling
Hello, I had Windows XP on a ThinkPad T40. I used partition magic 8 to create a 20 gig empty partition at the end of logical drive E before installing Debian Etch. Installation went fine. I can boot to both Windows XP and Debian. Everything appears to work fine, but I get horrible warnings if I t

security.debian.org Problem?

2007-03-29 Thread Wayne Topa
I have had a problem with security.debian.org for a few days now. Either it isn't there or when it is, it times out. Is anyone else having this problem or is it just me? VT1 root-3-TESTING:~# aptitude -y upgrade Get:1 http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main ttf-opensymbol 2.0.4.dfsg.2

Slow MySQL Startup

2007-03-29 Thread Erik Cummings
I will probably take this to a MySQL list as well, but there's a good bit of knowledge on this list that might help... We are seeing extremely slow MySQL startup on our Dell PE 1955. MySQL becomes available very quickly, but takes approximately 1.5 hours to fill the memory cache and let go of

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:27:36 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/29/07 06:15, Max Hyre wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> There will be a limited number of models and they'll be more > >> expensive (if for no other reason than c

Re: daylight saving

2007-03-29 Thread Jonathan Wilson
>Hi all, > > I'm intrigued about how linux changes the time according to the >daylight saving time rules. I know that those rules are stored in >/usr/share/zoneinfo/ but I don't know which process does this change, >I'm pretty sure it can't be a cron task that does this change, am I >wrong?

daylight saving

2007-03-29 Thread Arnau
Hi all, I'm intrigued about how linux changes the time according to the daylight saving time rules. I know that those rules are stored in /usr/share/zoneinfo/ but I don't know which process does this change, I'm pretty sure it can't be a cron task that does this change, am I wrong? Anybody

Re: gps navigation, maps

2007-03-29 Thread Wayne Topa
Celejar([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 03:27:57 -0700 (PDT) > Arc Roca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Are there any tutorials, howtos out there that could > > guide me in this? I imagine that there may be some > > cheaper way using [debian+(radioshack or

OT: Policy (was Re: Openssh-server installation in etch)

2007-03-29 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul E Condon wrote: [snip] >> I suppose one should have some idea how to network administration before >> setting up a network server in the first place, and it does help to read >> the documentation. >> >> Joe > > I disagree about people who don't k

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 11:37, Michael Marsh wrote: > On 3/29/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> IOW, sure they could try to sell add space on the Linux desktop, but >> who would buy it? Oracle? Veritas? > > Google? Why? Expedia? ScottTr

Re: dhcp problem

2007-03-29 Thread Joe Hart
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:54:34 +0600 > "S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> My isp is providing me the ip using DHCP. everything fine. But they are >> sending 3 nameserver. And first DNS server is not responding. SO i

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Michael Marsh
On 3/29/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: IOW, sure they could try to sell add space on the Linux desktop, but who would buy it? Oracle? Veritas? Google? Expedia? ScottTrade? None of those is OS-specific, and all would benefit from quick links on the desktop. If the same-or-highe

Re: Woohooo! Dell + Linux

2007-03-29 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/29/07 11:31, Roger B.A. Klorese wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> IOW, sure they could try to sell add space on the Linux desktop, but >> who would buy it? Oracle? Veritas? >> > > > Um, Veritas IS Symantec. OK, I didn't know that one purchas

Re: Reporting a bug (was: fglrx driver problems)

2007-03-29 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit Marko Randjelovic dies 29/03/2007 hora 19:08: > I run Etch on machine with Nvidia nForce3 250 motherboard and Radeon > 9550 graphics card. DRI is not working neither with radeon, nor fglrx > driver. I tried several versions of fglrx driver and kernel, Debian > and vanilla. > > I think it's

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