Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 10:15:35PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Sunday 28 January 2007 22:08, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 20:28 -0600, Dave Patterson wrote: > > > yea, verily, Paul Johnson sayith: > > > >..trivial changes to the name and artwork > > > > makes it free? > > > > >

Re: replying to a message in debian-user

2007-01-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> On Thursday 25 January 2007 10:26, Easthope wrote: > > When I work at home, thunderbird can send a > > reply to a message posted on this list. > > > > Presumeably it sends the Message-id of the > > preceeding message, or a thread identifier > > to the list maintenance program to allow > > connect

Re: stable 3.1 (sarge) or testing 4.0 (etch) for a new user?

2007-01-28 Thread Marc Shapiro
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: On Sunday 28 January 2007 22:44, Oliver Twist wrote: In any case, with a new major release (etch - 4.0) coming out soon, I am wondering which release to use right now... the testing release of 4.0 or the stable release of 3.1 ? I would say start with 3.1. I

RE: stable 3.1 (sarge) or testing 4.0 (etch) for a new user?

2007-01-28 Thread Kevin Ross
> I would say start with 3.1. If all is well, stick with it. > Once Etch becomes > stable, you can upgrade from 3.1 to 4.0. Unlike other > distros, upgrading > across stable releases is really easy! I disagree, and here's why: The upgrade from sarge to etch is NOT seamless. Sarge installs 2.

Re: Re: Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Paul Johnson wrote: > Angelo Bertolli wrote: > > >> I'm not clear on why Firefox couldn't be put in non-free though. (I >> just figured it was for upgrades.) >> > > Why put something in non-free if trivial changes to the name and artwork > makes it free? > No, I mean a non-free firefox

RE: From unstable to Etch

2007-01-28 Thread Kevin Ross
> -Original Message- > From: Robert Epprecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:21 AM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: From unstable to Etch > > Hello > > I have a Debian/unstable installation which is now used by > other family > members, so I wan

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 23:20 -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Sunday 28 January 2007 22:52, Greg Folkert wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 21:38 -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > > On Sunday 28 January 2007 18:33, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > ... > > > > > > > > Do you see a difference? > > > > > > > > You co

Re: stable 3.1 (sarge) or testing 4.0 (etch) for a new user?

2007-01-28 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Sunday 28 January 2007 22:44, Oliver Twist wrote: > In any case, with a new major release (etch - 4.0) coming out soon, I am > wondering which release to use right now... the testing release of 4.0 or > the stable release of 3.1 ? > I would say start with 3.1. If all is well, stick with it. On

Re: From unstable to Etch

2007-01-28 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Sunday 28 January 2007 09:21, Robert Epprecht wrote: > Hello > > I have a Debian/unstable installation which is now used by other family > members, so I want to switch it to Etch (now or when Etch becomes stable). > I do not care too much if some things would not be exactly like in the > coming

Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security

2007-01-28 Thread Zach
On 1/28/07, John L Fjellstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Make sure you buy v4 or below. v5 can't be upgraded (and doesn't run Linux) The WRT54G v4 was re-released as the WRT54GL - the L for Linux. Zach -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: stable 3.1 (sarge) or testing 4.0 (etch) for a new user?

2007-01-28 Thread Joe Smith
"Alan Ianson" wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun January 28 2007 19:44, Oliver Twist wrote: I am a soon-to-be new user of Debian. I have been using other (particularly live) distros for a while to learn linux, but I very much want to move to Debian. In any case, with a new major r

Re: CPU fan control

2007-01-28 Thread Surachai Locharoen
It seem that Linux does not enable cpu frequency scaling by default. So the cpu is alway run in full speed. It generate heat so much. The fan cooling can not reduce heat enough To solve this problem install cpufreqd and see the README.Debian to enable cpu frequency scaling. Kan 2007/1/29, Manu

dvdstyler, "not valid mpeg-file"

2007-01-28 Thread Marty
I am generating MPEG-2 files in hardware using the WinTV PVR-150 MCE. About one in 20 files is rejected by dvdstyler as "not valid mpeg-file." Mythtv and totem have no problems playing the files. The Mythtv video file settings are all default as installed. Everything on my system is stock sarge

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread John Hasler
Max Hyre writes: > Of course, they're fighting a losing battle in the casual usage... In the US they have no power over casual usage. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 28 January 2007 22:52, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 21:38 -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Sunday 28 January 2007 18:33, Paul Johnson wrote: > > ... > > > > > > Do you see a difference? > > > > > > You could have cancelled and looked into why that is. iceweasel > > > provi

Re: stable 3.1 (sarge) or testing 4.0 (etch) for a new user?

2007-01-28 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sun January 28 2007 19:44, Oliver Twist wrote: > I am a soon-to-be new user of Debian. I have been using other > (particularly live) distros for a while to learn linux, but I very much > want to move to Debian. > > In any case, with a new major release (etch - 4.0) coming out soon, I am > wonde

Re: Handing over boot sequence from one drive to another

2007-01-28 Thread Marty
MeneM wrote: Dear List, Could anyone tell me how to copy my current debian installation to a different external iomega jazz drive, and be able to boot from it in case of emergency? I like rsync for this task. There are also many specialized backup tools in Debian. I'm figuring; reading

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 21:38 -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Sunday 28 January 2007 18:33, Paul Johnson wrote: > ... > > > Do you see a difference? > > > > You could have cancelled and looked into why that is. iceweasel > > provides firefox because it *is* firefox. There is no functional > > differ

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Max Hyre
John Hasler wrote: > Angelo writes: >> It was reiterated by Mozilla that if it doesn't do this, it will lose >> some ability to protect its trademarks. IANAL, but somehow it just >> doesn't sound right to me. > > It needn't be right in order to be true. Trademark law is loony. Actually, it's

stable 3.1 (sarge) or testing 4.0 (etch) for a new user?

2007-01-28 Thread Oliver Twist
I am a soon-to-be new user of Debian. I have been using other (particularly live) distros for a while to learn linux, but I very much want to move to Debian. In any case, with a new major release (etch - 4.0) coming out soon, I am wondering which release to use right now... the testing relea

Re: Etch on X86-64

2007-01-28 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sun January 28 2007 15:58, Ananda Samaddar wrote: > Hello there, > > my desktop computer recently bit the dust and I'm thinking of getting a > Core 2 duo system. What is the status of Debian on the X86-64 platform? > Is it usable? I'd love to hear from people using this particular port and >

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 21:13 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 04:52:36PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > > > > I think his point wasn't so much the version number as the name in front > > of it. Websites don't know what Iceweasel is, they do know what Firefox is. > > > I

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 28 January 2007 22:08, Greg Folkert wrote: > On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 20:28 -0600, Dave Patterson wrote: > > yea, verily, Paul Johnson sayith: > > >..trivial changes to the name and artwork > > > makes it free? > > > > It's still a fork. The differences will grow. > > The only real changes s

Re: Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 20:28 -0600, Dave Patterson wrote: > yea, verily, Paul Johnson sayith: > > >..trivial changes to the name and artwork > > makes it free? > > > It's still a fork. The differences will grow. The only real changes since its inception are; The Logos, the name and some variable

Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security

2007-01-28 Thread John L Fjellstad
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 01/28/07 13:32, John L Fjellstad wrote: >> Make sure you buy v4 or below. v5 can't be upgraded (and doesn't run >> Linux) > > I thought that was the difference between the WRT54GL and WRT54G. You're right. The WRT54GL is the linux version. From what

Xen, cannot create partition from and for domU

2007-01-28 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina
Hi, I run _full virtualization_, on Xen3.0.3, Debian (not openSuse this time). I try to install a Debian netinst. A problem occurs when (the domU is) trying to create the partitions on wich it's going to install. The domU configuration is [...] disk=['phy:/dev/sda6,ioemu:hda,w','fi

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread John Hasler
Roberto C. Sanchez writes: > But a browser that claims to be a Firefox-alike should function as much > like Firefox as possible. To me that means not messing with the > useragent string. I think that the maintainer believes (erroneously, IMHO) that he had to change it to avoid trademark infringem

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/07 17:50, Paul Johnson wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 01/28/07 08:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 06:18:19PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: Like the people who read the CNN article about sterilizing sponges

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 28 January 2007 18:33, Paul Johnson wrote: ... > > Do you see a difference? > > You could have cancelled and looked into why that is. iceweasel > provides firefox because it *is* firefox. There is no functional > difference between firefox and iceweasel. You're making a mountain > out

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 28 January 2007 18:36, Paul Johnson wrote: > Martin Schulze wrote: > > Mike Hommey wrote: > >> To be fair, it's not exactly true, because upgrading from firefox > >> to iceweasel in debian means upgrading from version 1.0 or 1.5 to > >> 2.0, and there are substancial changes that some peo

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Sunday 28 January 2007 18:42, Paul Johnson wrote: > Stephen R Laniel wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 11:03:59AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >> Please quit top posting. > > > > Here is a script that I banged out in a few minutes, which > > surely needs much improvement but will hopefull

Re: Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Dave Patterson
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Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Stephen R Laniel wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 11:03:59AM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> Please quit top posting. > > Here is a script that I banged out in a few minutes, which > surely needs much improvement but will hopefully go some way > toward making the top-posting "debate" -- which

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/28/07 08:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 06:18:19PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> Like the people who read the CNN article about sterilizing sponges >>> in the microwave? >> >> What about sterilizing sponges in the microwave? > > You must not re

Re: Raid trouble

2007-01-28 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Please don't top post. On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 01:59:20PM -0800, Land Haj wrote: > Thank you for this reply! > > I'm still learning here, and from what I understand I need to do > > mdadm --assemble --scan > > to get the /dev/md[x] to appear in my unstable installation (see my setup in > the f

Re: Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Angelo Bertolli wrote: > I'm not clear on why Firefox couldn't be put in non-free though.  (I > just figured it was for upgrades.) Why put something in non-free if trivial changes to the name and artwork makes it free? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscr

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 04:52:36PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > > I think his point wasn't so much the version number as the name in front > of it. Websites don't know what Iceweasel is, they do know what Firefox is. > I think that such a thing is bad. I understand the purpose behind the name

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Martin Schulze wrote: > Mike Hommey wrote: >> To be fair, it's not exactly true, because upgrading from firefox to >> iceweasel in debian means upgrading from version 1.0 or 1.5 to 2.0, and >> there are substancial changes that some people dislike, myself included. >> >> Which means Piotr is actu

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Paul Johnson
Please don't top post, we all read English in chronological (not random) order. http://wiki.ursine.ca/Best_Online_Quoting_Practices Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > Only Etch supports amd64, so I was forced to use Etch. > > Command I have used: > apt-get install firefox > > NOT > apt-get install icewe

Re: Handing over boot sequence from one drive to another

2007-01-28 Thread Cameron L. Spitzer
[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:54:46PM +0100, MeneM wrote: >> Could anyone tell me how to copy my current debian installation to a >> different external iomega jazz drive, I recently

Re: howto for setting up an debian home network router

2007-01-28 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 11:13:39PM +0100, Kristian Lampen wrote: > Hi, > I want to prepare an PC as a DSL-firewall-router for a small > home-network, five PC (some windows, some debian). I have not found a > suitable HOWTO or tutorial for this task. > I use debian since five years, and know somet

Re: Netinstall via bridge

2007-01-28 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 03:36:33PM -0500, celejar wrote: > On 1/27/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:08:39AM -0500, celejar wrote: > >> > >> I plan to do a netinstall on a new laptop (Acer AS3960). There's > >> internal wifi, and I have an Atheros PC c

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/28/07 16:26, Floris Bruynooghe wrote: >>> There is actually an operational difference. In the about:config page >>> the setting general.useragent.extra.firefox is set to >>> "Iceweasel/2.0.0.1". Looks harmless, but it stopped me from logging >>> on to a website. It wou

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-28 Thread Miles Bader
Kamaraju Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Wow! Nice explanation. I have always liked white on black xterms and > never was able to explain why so. Glad to hear that there is a logical > reason behind all this Yeah, it will be nice in the future when we have better display technologies -- I

Re: NTP dynamic servers?

2007-01-28 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:34:10PM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > On Monday 22 January 2007 16:49, Bruno Voigt wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm running debian/unstable on my laptop and often the LAN/WLAN is not > > connected (yet) > > when the system is starting up - including NTPD. > > > > NTPD then seems to dis

Re: getting broadband working on my new AMD64 box....

2007-01-28 Thread Cameron L. Spitzer
[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Fothergill wrote: > [new install, Internet "not working"] > My old box is an AMD Duron 1200 Mhz 32 bit machine which is running Etch > i386. The internet connection works fine on it. > > I use NTL b

Etch on X86-64

2007-01-28 Thread Ananda Samaddar
Hello there, my desktop computer recently bit the dust and I'm thinking of getting a Core 2 duo system. What is the status of Debian on the X86-64 platform? Is it usable? I'd love to hear from people using this particular port and their experiences. I've heard various things here and there

Re: ls and globbing and full pathnames

2007-01-28 Thread x_debian-user_x
> > I need the > > full filepaths, something like this: > > --- > > /var/www/site1/index.html, /var/www/site1/some_image.jpg, > > /var/www/site2/index.html, /var/www/site2/some_other_file > > --- > > Is there any known way to get that kind of output instead? > > find /var/www > > then you get the

Re: Hardware (was Re: [OT] Dilbert cartoon featurng Linux)

2007-01-28 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007 Jan 28 12:28 -0600]: > What a time to have missed the "open box" and "as is" AMD and Intel > dual core machines. Oh well, not like I _need_ another machine. Quite possibly, that was no accident. Either Microsoft or the manufacturers or both probably didn

Re: sound card problem

2007-01-28 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 28 January 2007 23:31, Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 00:21:36 -0600, anthony givens wrote: > > I have a als62m sound card the chip is a als4000 chip I can't configure > > it for sound I try looking in different places (like linuxquestions and > > other places )and can't

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/07 16:26, Floris Bruynooghe wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:40:52PM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: >> On Sam, 27 Jan 2007, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: >>> Iceweasel and Firefox are a different products, very similar, but >>> different. >> Can

Re: NTP dynamic servers?

2007-01-28 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jan 28, 2007, at 3:34 PM, Mike Bird wrote: On Monday 22 January 2007 16:49, Bruno Voigt wrote: Hi, I'm running debian/unstable on my laptop and often the LAN/WLAN is not connected (yet) when the system is starting up - including NTPD. NTPD then seems to discard all unreachable server en

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread John Hasler
Angelo writes: > It was reiterated by Mozilla that if it doesn't do this, it will lose > some ability to protect its trademarks. IANAL, but somehow it just > doesn't sound right to me. It needn't be right in order to be true. Trademark law is loony. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Router doesn't recognize Debian system

2007-01-28 Thread Brian Hostetler
I recently migrated my home server from SPARC Solaris to PPC Debian. The transition was remarkably smooth and I have been humming along for nearly a week. Sometime late Saturday, however, my Debian box "dropped off" as far as my 2wire DSL router is concerned. It no longer shows up as an attached

Re: Handing over boot sequence from one drive to another

2007-01-28 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:54:46PM +0100, MeneM wrote: > Dear List, > > Could anyone tell me how to copy my current debian installation to a > different external iomega jazz drive, and be able to boot from it in > case of emergency? > > I'm figuring; reading some articles after some merry googl

Re: Recording audio with Debian - hardware/software suggestions

2007-01-28 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 01:38:03PM -0500, KS wrote: > Hi all, > > We are planning to have a setup so that we can record the upcoming talks > (happening every weekend for several weekends at a stretch). The > equipment which is already there comprises of 4 microphones, a mixer > (with 12 inputs I t

Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security

2007-01-28 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 08:08:55AM -0700, Hodgins Family wrote: > > Firewalling routers are $50 and do a reasonably > > good job. > > Any recommendations? > What are you using? Get any old (now 486 or newer) box and install basic debian on it. Add shorewall and you have a totally configurable fi

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Floris Bruynooghe
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 09:40:52PM +0100, Norbert Preining wrote: > On Sam, 27 Jan 2007, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > > Iceweasel and Firefox are a different products, very similar, but > > different. > > Can YOU please explain me what *important* differences there are? [...] > Otherwise I would like

Re: howto for setting up an debian home network router

2007-01-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/07 16:13, Kristian Lampen wrote: > Hi, > I want to prepare an PC as a DSL-firewall-router for a small > home-network, five PC (some windows, some debian). I have not found a > suitable HOWTO or tutorial for this task. > I use debian since five

Re: sound card problem

2007-01-28 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 00:21:36 -0600, anthony givens wrote: > I have a als62m sound card the chip is a als4000 chip I can't configure it > for > sound I try looking in different places (like linuxquestions and other > places )and can't configure my sound card the error message I get is > devi

Re: howto for setting up an debian home network router

2007-01-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 11:13:39PM +0100, Kristian Lampen wrote: > Hi, > I want to prepare an PC as a DSL-firewall-router for a small > home-network, five PC (some windows, some debian). I have not found a > suitable HOWTO or tutorial for this task. > I use debian since five years, and know somet

Re: Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Jan Willem Stumpel wrote: > The choice of words by the OP was unfortunate, to say the least. > But among all his blathering there was the germ of a valid point. > The only potential valid point I saw coming out of it was that maybe "transitional" wasn't the way to go. I don't know what other o

Re: source for pegasus driver

2007-01-28 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 08:50:06 -0800, Peter Easthope wrote: > I am interested to read the source for the Pegasus > USB-Ethernet driver. > > Should I find the files in a Debian site, or in > a Linux kernel site or in a device driver site. You can install the (kernel|linux)-source package corresp

howto for setting up an debian home network router

2007-01-28 Thread Kristian Lampen
Hi, I want to prepare an PC as a DSL-firewall-router for a small home-network, five PC (some windows, some debian). I have not found a suitable HOWTO or tutorial for this task. I use debian since five years, and know something about networking, but i would like to have the important things for

Re: From unstable to Etch

2007-01-28 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 18:48:04 +0100, Robert Epprecht wrote: > macondo writes: [...] > I have a couple of partitions and will try an etch install later on, > but I do not want to lose my working sid system... Well I can always > clone it to another partition and try to downgrade it to etch. >

Re: Raid trouble

2007-01-28 Thread Land Haj
Thank you for this reply! I'm still learning here, and from what I understand I need to do mdadm --assemble --scan to get the /dev/md[x] to appear in my unstable installation (see my setup in the first post), and then I can safely mount /dev/md2 /mnt/raid cp -a /mnt/raid/anything . umount /mnt

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-28 Thread David E. Fox
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:28:24 -0500 "Steve C. Lamb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Define "most". In all of the email clients I have ever chosen to use not > a single one exhibits the behavior you describe. Pine, elm, mutt, PMMail/2, > PMMail2000, TheBat, Sylpheed-Claws, Thunderbird just to nam

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 28 January 2007 22:04, Steve Lamb wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 06:18:19PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Like the people who read the CNN article about sterilizing sponges > >> in the microwave? > > > > What about sterilizing sponges in the microwave? > >

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:47:45 +0100 Jan Willem Stumpel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The choice of words by the OP was unfortunate, to say the least. > But among all his blathering there was the germ of a valid point. > > Debian IMHO should carefully weigh the advantages and > disadvantages of adhe

Re: From unstable to Etch

2007-01-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 09:04:11PM +0100, Robert Epprecht wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 03:21:07PM +0100, Robert Epprecht wrote: > > [snipped preamble about downgrading to etch from sid] > >> Or is there more involved? When is the best ti

Re: XVth Int. Workshop on Numerical Methods for non-Newtonian Flows, June 6-10 Rhodes, Greece

2007-01-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/07 13:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 02:41:41AM +0100, IWNMNNF Organizing Committee wrote: [snip] > But what on earth is *non-Newtonian* fluid mechanics, assuming it has to > do with the real world? > > Fluids so heav

Re: LVM on RAID5, lvextend fails

2007-01-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:45:50PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:18:07PM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > > On Sunday 28 January 2007 11:37, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > I recently completed a migration of my home fileserver form LVM on two > > > ide disks to LVM o

Re: USB Flash Memory permissions

2007-01-28 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 20:07 +, John Talbut wrote: > Am I right in understanding that you are suggesting I go the the g-v-m source > code, alter that and then recompile it? If so, I have some difficulties: I > only > download the .deb packages so for the moment I do not have the source code,

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/07 15:06, Steve Lamb wrote: > Hal Vaughan wrote: >> On Sunday 28 January 2007 07:01, Martin Schulze wrote: >>> Remember the Cola tests? Blindfolded have preferred Pepsi over Coca, >>> with eyes open the result they preferred the Coca variant.

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/07 15:04, Steve Lamb wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 06:18:19PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> Like the people who read the CNN article about sterilizing sponges >>> in the microwave? > >> What about sterilizing sp

Re: sound card problem

2007-01-28 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 28 January 2007 21:10, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:21:36AM -0600, anthony givens wrote: > > I have a als62m sound card the chip is a als4000 chip I can't configure > > it for sound I try looking in different places (like linuxquestions and > > other places )and

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Steve Lamb
Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Sunday 28 January 2007 07:01, Martin Schulze wrote: >> Remember the Cola tests? Blindfolded have preferred Pepsi over Coca, >> with eyes open the result they preferred the Coca variant. > Funny. Blindfolded I took the same as I did without the blindfold. Coke > either way

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Steve Lamb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 06:18:19PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: >> Like the people who read the CNN article about sterilizing sponges >> in the microwave? > What about sterilizing sponges in the microwave? T'hell with the sponges, how does one read CNN, exactly? --

problems with keymap in Xorg

2007-01-28 Thread Tomas Davidek
Hello, I noticed two problems in Xorg: 1. mistake in setxkbmap (or xkb-data ?) Recently the the following command to set US and CZ keyboard stopped working: setxkbmap -rules xfree86 -model pc104 -layout "us,cz_qwerty" -variant ",bksl" -option "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll" The prob

Re: LVM on RAID5, lvextend fails

2007-01-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:18:07PM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > On Sunday 28 January 2007 11:37, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > I recently completed a migration of my home fileserver form LVM on two > > ide disks to LVM on RAID-5 with 4 ide disks. I attempted to extend one > > of the logical volumes

Re: Netinstall via bridge

2007-01-28 Thread celejar
On 1/27/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 10:08:39AM -0500, celejar wrote: > Hi list, > > I plan to do a netinstall on a new laptop (Acer AS3960). There's > internal wifi, and I have an Atheros PC card, but I have to assume > that neither will be supported

Re: NTP dynamic servers?

2007-01-28 Thread Mike Bird
On Monday 22 January 2007 16:49, Bruno Voigt wrote: > Hi, > I'm running debian/unstable on my laptop and often the LAN/WLAN is not > connected (yet) > when the system is starting up - including NTPD. > > NTPD then seems to discard all unreachable server entries and ends up > with no peers left. > I

Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security

2007-01-28 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/07 13:32, John L Fjellstad wrote: > Hodgins Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> The Linux geek fave is the Linksys WRT54GL, since it runs Linux and >>> can be upgraded with 3rd-party binaries. It's a wireless access >>> port, but also h

Re: From unstable to Etch

2007-01-28 Thread Robert Epprecht
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 03:21:07PM +0100, Robert Epprecht wrote: > [snipped preamble about downgrading to etch from sid] >> Or is there more involved? When is the best time to do the switch? > just to say it, as others seem to have answered yo

Re: USB Flash Memory permissions

2007-01-28 Thread John Talbut
On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 08:15 +, John Talbut wrote: I do not understand what you mean by "the source for gnome-volume-manager". As I wrote, from what I can find out about g-v-m it gets settings via pmount-hal etc. > >Sven Arvidsson wrote: If I'm not mistaken, g-v-m will call pmount-hal by d

Re: LVM on RAID5, lvextend fails

2007-01-28 Thread Mike Bird
On Sunday 28 January 2007 11:37, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > I recently completed a migration of my home fileserver form LVM on two > ide disks to LVM on RAID-5 with 4 ide disks. I attempted to extend one > of the logical volumes, but it failed with this message: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo lv

Re: How to catch process that removes files?

2007-01-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:48:36PM +0200, WireSpot wrote: > I don't mean periodically, more like "random but often". Sometimes > several times a day, sometimes not at all. I know you've said this before, but is it the same files? or the same directory? if it is, in that you can narrow down the sco

Re: XVth Int. Workshop on Numerical Methods for non-Newtonian Flows, June 6-10 Rhodes, Greece

2007-01-28 Thread John Hasler
hendrik writes: > But what on earth is *non-Newtonian* fluid mechanics The mechanics of fluids with strain-rate dependent viscosity. Silly putty, for example. Or oobleck. > Fluids so heavy that general relativity is needed? Flows in quantum > phase space? That would be more interesting, would

Re: sound card problem

2007-01-28 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:21:36AM -0600, anthony givens wrote: > I have a als62m sound card the chip is a als4000 chip I can't configure it > for > sound I try looking in different places (like linuxquestions and other > places )and can't configure my sound card the error message I get is > de

Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security

2007-01-28 Thread John L Fjellstad
Hodgins Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> The Linux geek fave is the Linksys WRT54GL, since it runs Linux and >> can be upgraded with 3rd-party binaries. It's a wireless access >> port, but also has 4 RJ45 jacks and has a firewall. US$54 at Newegg. > > Thanks! Make sure you buy v4 or below.

Re: NTP dynamic servers?

2007-01-28 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:56:02AM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: > > On Jan 27, 2007, at 2:19 PM, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > >I used to run chrony (with difficulty) but ran into a problem with my > >new box: it couldn't access the hwclock. If I told it not to, (so > >that > >the hwclock shutdo

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Jan Willem Stumpel
The choice of words by the OP was unfortunate, to say the least. But among all his blathering there was the germ of a valid point. Debian IMHO should carefully weigh the advantages and disadvantages of adhering --uncompromisingly-- to the letter of its doctrine. The renaming of the programs certa

Re: From unstable to Etch

2007-01-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 03:21:07PM +0100, Robert Epprecht wrote: [snipped preamble about downgrading to etch from sid] > > Or is there more involved? When is the best time to do the switch? > just to say it, as others seem to have answered your questions. The best time to do the switch was abo

Re: Modem connection dropping Debian Etch

2007-01-28 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 12:55:54AM -0500, John Kerr Anderson wrote: > >John Kerr Anderson wrote: > >Hello everyone, > > > >I have a very annoying problem. I am trying to download some new > >programs via aptitude and notice that my modem connection keeps >dropping > >out after 5 - 10 minutes. The

LVM on RAID5, lvextend fails

2007-01-28 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Hi list. I recently completed a migration of my home fileserver form LVM on two ide disks to LVM on RAID-5 with 4 ide disks. I attempted to extend one of the logical volumes, but it failed with this message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo lvextend -L+25G /dev/mommadisk/video Password: Using stripesi

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sun, 2007-01-28 at 14:02 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 12:44:05AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Saturday 27 January 2007 00:32, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > > (Teenagers do not have an unalienable right to do have > > > Myspace pages > > > > Personally, I'm fine

Re: XVth Int. Workshop on Numerical Methods for non-Newtonian Flows, June 6-10 Rhodes, Greece

2007-01-28 Thread hendrik
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 02:41:41AM +0100, IWNMNNF Organizing Committee wrote: > XVth International Workshop on Numerical Methods for non-Newtonian Flows - > IWNMNNF 2007 > > Dear Colleague! > > The objective of IWNMNNF-2007, June 6-10, 2007, Rhodes, Greece > is to bring together researchers at t

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread hendrik
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 12:44:05AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Saturday 27 January 2007 00:32, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > (Teenagers do not have an unalienable right to do have > > Myspace pages > > Personally, I'm fine with letting teens on MySpace and similar > wastelands. Let them have pl

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread hendrik
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 09:07:44AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/28/07 08:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 06:18:19PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Like the people who read the CNN article about sterilizing sponges >

Re: Recording audio with Debian - hardware/software suggestions

2007-01-28 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 01:38:03PM -0500, KS wrote: > Hi all, > > We are planning to have a setup so that we can record the upcoming talks > (happening every weekend for several weekends at a stretch). The > equipment which is already there comprises of 4 microphones, a mixer > (with 12 inputs I t

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