Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security

2007-01-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 01:24:33 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Shouldn't the setup of a firewall be part of the installation > > routine? Perhaps prior to running tasksel, some script could query > > the user about using a firewall and/or help him/her set an > > appropriate one up?

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Zach
From: "Piotr Dziubinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian-user@lists.debian.org, debian-project@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Whoa dude relax. Why did you contact so many people to complain? Zach -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "

Re: New Etch install - IP address question

2007-01-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 00:46:50 -0500 Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 06:50:46PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:08:45 -0500 > > Tom Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Again, everything looks and works normally excecpt for the > > > s

Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security

2007-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/27/07 01:16, Hodgins Family wrote: >> Did you *read* the link you posted? > Yes, I've read/seen this Appendix F section in various versions. > > Up until the last version that I read (version 3.10 of last November) > there has been a "FIXME: tes

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Oleg Verych
27-01-2007, Ron Johnson: > > On 01/27/07 00:57, Oleg Verych wrote: >> 26-01-2007, Piotr Dziubinski пишет: >> [] >> >> Hi, Pete. >> >>> I'm very irritated and disappointed with your policy! Why? >>> >>> I've used various Linux distributions for 8 years. I've been using Debian >>> for the last 6 mo

Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security

2007-01-26 Thread Hodgins Family
> Did you *read* the link you posted? Yes, I've read/seen this Appendix F section in various versions. Up until the last version that I read (version 3.10 of last November) there has been a "FIXME: test this setup to see if it works properly." Didn't exactly inspire me to use it as an aid for net

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/27/07 00:57, Oleg Verych wrote: > 26-01-2007, Piotr Dziubinski пишет: > [] > > Hi, Pete. > >> I'm very irritated and disappointed with your policy! Why? >> >> I've used various Linux distributions for 8 years. I've been using Debian >> for the

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Oleg Verych
26-01-2007, Piotr Dziubinski пишет: [] Hi, Pete. > I'm very irritated and disappointed with your policy! Why? > > I've used various Linux distributions for 8 years. I've been using Debian > for the last 6 months, but today I changed my mind! Poor man ;) Seriously, i've had enough from mozilla/f

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 23:44, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Saturday 27 January 2007 00:32, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 01/26/07 23:18, Hal Vaughan wrote: >>> On Friday 26 January 2007 23:19, Angelo Bertolli wrote: Piotr Dziubinski wrote: [snip] >> (Teenagers do not

Re: New Etch install - IP address question

2007-01-26 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 06:50:46PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:08:45 -0500 > Tom Pfeifer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Again, everything looks and works normally excecpt for the strange IP > > address. Just hoping someone can explain or provide a link to some > > infor

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Saturday 27 January 2007 00:32, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 01/26/07 23:18, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Friday 26 January 2007 23:19, Angelo Bertolli wrote: > >> Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > >>> Ex-Debian user... > >>> ... back to the Gentoo > >> > >> If going to the Mozilla website to download and insta

Re: Sound on M/board

2007-01-26 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 02:17:27PM +, john gennard wrote: > Kevin Mark wrote: > > >On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 09:29:14AM +, john gennard wrote: > > > >>Normally, I use a Sound Card, but with a new Asrock > >>775Dual-VSTA board, there's a front panel socket which > >>I'd like to try, but I don

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 23:18, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Friday 26 January 2007 23:19, Angelo Bertolli wrote: >> Piotr Dziubinski wrote: >>> Ex-Debian user... >>> ... back to the Gentoo >> If going to the Mozilla website to download and install Firefox is >> too muc

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 26 January 2007 23:19, Angelo Bertolli wrote: > Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > > Ex-Debian user... > > ... back to the Gentoo > > If going to the Mozilla website to download and install Firefox is > too much work for you, Debian is definitely not a good choice for > you. You might try another

Re: Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security

2007-01-26 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Hmmm, every time I do a net install, it installs the base files first, reboots, and then uses the actual system to install the rest... Angelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > Answers: > Etch > apt-get > > I was informed by apt-get that Iceweasel package will be installed, > but I wasn't informed that instead of Firefox and it is a problem! > If I would like to uninstall (even current version of) Firefox I would > do it myself. > 1) It is a rep

Re: Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 05:49:17PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > >> Roberto writes: >> >>> Debian policy requires that all packages be built on Debian autobuilders >>> (there are rare exceptions, but they are extremely few) >>> >> There is no such policy. D

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > Ex-Debian user... > ... back to the Gentoo If going to the Mozilla website to download and install Firefox is too much work for you, Debian is definitely not a good choice for you. You might try another OS called Windows--I hear it's got its own browser that's pretty pop

Re: OT: memory requirements

2007-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 21:30, Tyler wrote: > Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: >> On Friday 26 January 2007 16:55, Tyler wrote: >>> Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: [snip] > In the meantime, how does one check for bad blocks and bad ram? I have > the pre-installed fsck runnin

Re: A simple question

2007-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 19:28, s. keeling wrote: > Sven Arvidsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 16:08 -0800, j Mak wrote: [snip] > And I would imagine any of them could be used if you chose to avoid > those three. Try out some of the other wm's.

Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security

2007-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 19:03, Hodgins Family wrote: > Many people are installing Debian "from the internet". Yet, the Securing > Debian Manual suggests no contact with the internet until the > installation is "secure." > > The manual states that installing the O

Re: OT: memory requirements

2007-01-26 Thread Tyler
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > On Friday 26 January 2007 16:55, Tyler wrote: >> Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: >> >>> Is >>> dma enabled for the hard drive? >> How do I check? what is this? >> Ok, checked it out and dma is enabled as required. > ok. Now if you disable X completely, do you experience an

Modem connection dropping Debian Etch

2007-01-26 Thread John Kerr Anderson
Hello everyone, I have a very annoying problem. I am trying to download some new programs via aptitude and notice that my modem connection keeps dropping out after 5 - 10 minutes. The connection keeps dropping esp. if I try to check a web-page out while it is downloading in aptitude. At first

Re: OT: memory requirements

2007-01-26 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Friday 26 January 2007 16:55, Tyler wrote: > Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > > > Is > > dma enabled for the hard drive? > > How do I check? what is this? > Others have told you how to check for this. If dma is not enabled on your hard drive, it can explain why the computer is so slow! Please turn

Re: [OT] Dilbert cartoon featurng Linux

2007-01-26 Thread Rob Sims
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 01:08:20AM +, s. keeling wrote: > Max Hyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 11:16 -0700, ChadDavis wrote: > > >> Has anyone seen the Unix dilbert where a crusty old, Unix guy comes up= > > > > >> to dilbert, flips him a dime,

Re: Sid + nVidia + Compiz == no good?

2007-01-26 Thread B. L. Jilek
Hi Magnus! On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Magnus Therning wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 17:58:15 -0500, B. L. Jilek wrote: > [..] > >> It's 1.0.9746-2 and it seems to do it. > > > >Yep. I just finished installing nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-source > >from experimental. I wasn't even aware of an experim

Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security

2007-01-26 Thread Joey Hess
Hodgins Family wrote: > Are net installs (let's say for a Desktop environment) totally without > vulnerability risks? > > When, during an installation, do/should people think about > security/vulnerability issues of the software they are installing? Well, let's see.. to perform a network install,

XVth Int. Workshop on Numerical Methods for non-Newtonian Flows, June 6-10 Rhodes, Greece

2007-01-26 Thread IWNMNNF Organizing Committee
XVth International Workshop on Numerical Methods for non-Newtonian Flows - IWNMNNF 2007 Dear Colleague! The objective of IWNMNNF-2007, June 6-10, 2007, Rhodes, Greece is to bring together researchers at the forefront of computational and experimental non-Newtonian fluid mechanics and rheology t

Shouldn't pax (required by POSIX) have the required priority?

2007-01-26 Thread Vincent Lefevre
The pax package is optional. But as the pax utility is required by POSIX[*], shouldn't this package be required? [*] http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/pax.html -- Vincent Lefèvre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Web: 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <

Re: A simple question

2007-01-26 Thread s. keeling
Sven Arvidsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 16:08 -0800, j Mak wrote: > > I intend to install etch with xfce and would like to know how many cd-= > > s do I have to download that include the base system. I read somewhere that= > > the first cd doesn't include the entire xfce de

Re: [OT] Dilbert cartoon featurng Linux

2007-01-26 Thread s. keeling
Max Hyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 11:16 -0700, ChadDavis wrote: > >> Has anyone seen the Unix dilbert where a crusty old, Unix guy comes up= > > >> to dilbert, flips him a dime, and says,"Here kid, go buy yourself a > >> real computer." > > > > http:

Re: A simple question FORK! Something that bugs me about net-installs and security

2007-01-26 Thread Hodgins Family
Many people are installing Debian "from the internet". Yet, the Securing Debian Manual suggests no contact with the internet until the installation is "secure." The manual states that installing the OS off the web is not the best idea (Section 3.3 found here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/secu

Re: getting broadband working on my new AMD64 box....

2007-01-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 00:48 +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > > > >From: Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > >Subject: Re: getting broadband working on my new AMD64 box > >Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:33:47 -0800 > > > >On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 12:20:4

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Alan Ianson
On Fri January 26 2007 14:20, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > I'm very irritated and disappointed with your policy! Why? I think this all boils down to the mozilla or firefox policy doesn't it? > I've used various Linux distributions for 8 years. I've been using Debian > for the last 6 months, but toda

Re: getting broadband working on my new AMD64 box....

2007-01-26 Thread Michael Fothergill
From: Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: getting broadband working on my new AMD64 box Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:33:47 -0800 On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 12:20:48AM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > Dear Debianists, > > I have now installed

Re: problem with netinstall of AMD64 Etch.....

2007-01-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Michael, Try the command "base-config" to reconfigure your apt sources (and some other basic stuff). to check your network connections you should first try to: "ping gd.tuwien.ac.at" (or whatever you like) if you receive packets - everything is fine. if not try "ping 72.14.221.103". if you

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 01:11 +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > Answers: > Etch > apt-get > > I was informed by apt-get that Iceweasel package will be installed, > but I wasn't informed that instead of Firefox and it is a problem! > If I would like to uninstall (even current version of) Firefox I wou

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 12:44:13AM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > I'm irritated cause I expect that operating system will ask me about such > kind of changes. > It is a reason why I have started to use Linux. I want to have complete > control in all changes made in my operating system. As You men

Re: A simple question

2007-01-26 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 16:08 -0800, j Mak wrote: >I intend to install etch with xfce and would like to know how many cd-s do > I have to download that include the base system. I read somewhere that the > first cd doesn't include the entire xfce desktop. Do the first and the > second cd inclu

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 26 January 2007 19:11, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > Answers: > Etch > apt-get > > I was informed by apt-get that Iceweasel package will be installed, > but I wasn't informed that instead of Firefox and it is a problem! If > I would like to uninstall (even current version of) Firefox I would

Re: getting broadband working on my new AMD64 box....

2007-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 12:20:48AM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > Dear Debianists, > > I have now installed Etch AMD64 RC1 successfully on my new AMD64 box. > The only problem I have is that the internet connection isn't working. > > My old box is an AMD Duron 1200 Mhz 32 bit machine which

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 26 January 2007 18:44, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > I'm irritated cause I expect that operating system will ask me about > such kind of changes. Apt does. If you're running Stable, that kind of change would not have happened. If you're running Testing or Unstable, well, then you can eit

Re: getting broadband working on my new AMD64 box....

2007-01-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 00:20 +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > Dear Debianists, > > I have now installed Etch AMD64 RC1 successfully on my new AMD64 box. The > only problem I have is that the internet connection isn't working. > > My old box is an AMD Duron 1200 Mhz 32 bit machine which is runn

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Piotr Dziubinski
Answers: Etch apt-get I was informed by apt-get that Iceweasel package will be installed, but I wasn't informed that instead of Firefox and it is a problem! If I would like to uninstall (even current version of) Firefox I would do it myself. Out of curiousity, how did you not realize that Ic

getting broadband working on my new AMD64 box....

2007-01-26 Thread Michael Fothergill
Dear Debianists, I have now installed Etch AMD64 RC1 successfully on my new AMD64 box. The only problem I have is that the internet connection isn't working. My old box is an AMD Duron 1200 Mhz 32 bit machine which is running Etch i386. The internet connection works fine on it. I use NTL

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 18:12, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 04:05:28PM -0800, Raquel wrote: >> There's also the matter of just blindly hitting the key when >> apt/aptitude asks about replacing one package with another. If you >> want to be

Re: A simple question

2007-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 18:08, j Mak wrote: > I intend to install etch with xfce and would like to know how > many cd-s do I have to download that include the base system. I > read somewhere that the first cd doesn't include the entire xfce > desktop. Do the firs

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Greg Folkert
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 18:12 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/26/07 18:05, Raquel wrote: > > On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:54:34 -0500 "Roberto C. Sanchez" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > > There's also the matter of just blindly hitting the

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Leo Antunes
Iceweasel *IS* Firefox. Only the name changed because of legal disputes. If you want, you can probably start reading about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IceWeasel#More_Debian-related_controversy What you might have experienced is the upgrade from Firefox 1.5 to Firefox 2.0 (roughly at th

Re: amavis-new on sarge instable? (solved)

2007-01-26 Thread Moritz Haslhofer
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh schrieb: On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Moritz Haslhofer wrote: i have a strange problem with our mailserver (Debian Linux 3.1 Sarge). The amavis-new daemon gives up on us at least once every day, without leaving any trace in mail.log, mail.err, syslog or /var/log/messages.

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 05:49:17PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Roberto writes: > > Debian policy requires that all packages be built on Debian autobuilders > > (there are rare exceptions, but they are extremely few) > > There is no such policy. Debian maintainers build their packages on their > o

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 17:49, John Hasler wrote: > Roberto writes: >> Debian policy requires that all packages be built on Debian autobuilders >> (there are rare exceptions, but they are extremely few) > > There is no such policy. Debian maintainers build their

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 18:05, Raquel wrote: > On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:54:34 -0500 "Roberto C. Sanchez" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > There's also the matter of just blindly hitting the key > when apt/aptitude asks about replacing one package with another.

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 04:05:28PM -0800, Raquel wrote: > > There's also the matter of just blindly hitting the key when > apt/aptitude asks about replacing one package with another. If you > want to be in control then you need to read the messages or pay the > consequences > Gasp! But that wo

A simple question

2007-01-26 Thread j Mak
Hi, I intend to install etch with xfce and would like to know how many cd-s do I have to download that include the base system. I read somewhere that the first cd doesn't include the entire xfce desktop. Do the first and the second cd include it?

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread John Hasler
Roberto writes: > Debian policy requires that all packages be built on Debian autobuilders > (there are rare exceptions, but they are extremely few) There is no such policy. Debian maintainers build their packages on their own machines and then upload them. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Raquel
On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:54:34 -0500 "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 12:44:13AM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > > I'm irritated cause I expect that operating system will ask me > > about such kind of changes. > > It is a reason why I have started to use Lin

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Piotr Dziubinski
I'm irritated cause I expect that operating system will ask me about such kind of changes. It is a reason why I have started to use Linux. I want to have complete control in all changes made in my operating system. As You mentioned, Iceweasel isn't real Firefox. If I knew that upgrade of Firefox,

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 12:44:13AM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > I'm irritated cause I expect that operating system will ask me about such > kind of changes. > It is a reason why I have started to use Linux. I want to have complete > control in all changes made in my operating system. As You men

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Atis
On 1/27/07, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > After updating Firefox in Debian I realized that Firefox is no longer > present in my operating system! > Instead of it, I have this trashy and shity Iceweasle. Iceweasel /is/ Firefox. I remember reading in http://www.g

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:20:00PM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > I'm very irritated and disappointed with your policy! Why? > As others have pointed out in this thread, Iceweasel is Firefox, but without the Mozilla branding. If you are irritated, then be irritated at Mozilla and write them an

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:20:00PM +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > I'm very irritated and disappointed with your policy! Why? > > I've used various Linux distributions for 8 years. I've been using Debian > for the last 6 months, but today I changed my mind! > > After updating Firefox in Debian I

Re: Sid + nVidia + Compiz == no good?

2007-01-26 Thread Magnus Therning
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 17:58:15 -0500, B. L. Jilek wrote: [..] >> It's 1.0.9746-2 and it seems to do it. > >Yep. I just finished installing nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-source >from experimental. I wasn't even aware of an experimental repository >until now. :/ > >Anyway, it works for Compiz and Be

Re: Sid + nVidia + Compiz == no good?

2007-01-26 Thread B. L. Jilek
Hi Magnus! On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Magnus Therning wrote: > I've followed the instructions at [1] to configure Xorg with AIGLX and > it seems it's working: Same setup I used. > > % grep -i aiglx /var/log/Xorg.0.log > (**) Option "AIGLX" "true" > > When I run > > % compiz --replace I start c

Re: Sid + nVidia + Compiz == no good?

2007-01-26 Thread Nelson Castillo
On 1/25/07, B. L. Jilek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Magnus! On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Magnus Therning wrote: > I've been trying to get Compiz to run on my Debian Sid system. This is > the setup: > [snip] You didn't say which nvidia driver you are using. I believe that compiz requires features th

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Friday 26 January 2007 17:52, Kent West wrote: > Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > > After updating Firefox in Debian I realized that Firefox is no > > longer present in my operating system! > > Instead of it, I have this trashy and shity Iceweasle. > > Iceweasel /is/ Firefox. I don't think he cared en

Re: Sid + nVidia + Compiz == no good?

2007-01-26 Thread B. L. Jilek
Hi Magnus! On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Magnus Therning wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 06:34:45 -0500, B. L. Jilek wrote: > >Hi Magnus! > > > >On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, Magnus Therning wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 20:59:13 -0500, B. L. Jilek wrote: > >> >Hi Magnus! > >> > > >> >On Thu, 25 Jan 200

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Kenward Vaughan
On Fri, 2007-01-26 at 23:20 +0100, Piotr Dziubinski wrote: > I'm very irritated and disappointed with your policy! Why? > > I've used various Linux distributions for 8 years. I've been using > Debian for the last 6 months, but today I changed my mind! > > After updating Firefox in Debian I realiz

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Kent West
Piotr Dziubinski wrote: After updating Firefox in Debian I realized that Firefox is no longer present in my operating system! Instead of it, I have this trashy and shity Iceweasle. Iceweasel /is/ Firefox. It just has a different name because of some licensing changes that Mozilla made, makin

Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Jochen Schulz
Piotr Dziubinski: > > Oki, I can install my favorite Firefox from other packages, but do you > realize, that I would like to be asked if I want to use this f..u...k...ng > %^*( *&##$$ ^&^%& Iceweasle instead of Firefox? Nice flamebait. Good luck! :) J. -- In the west we kill people like chicken

Re: OT: memory requirements

2007-01-26 Thread Jhair Tocancipa Triana
Tyler writes: > Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: >> Is dma enabled for the hard drive? > How do I check? # hdparm /dev/hda | grep using_dma using_dma= 1 (on) > what is this? # man hdparm -- --Jhair -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: OT: memory requirements

2007-01-26 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 15:55, Tyler wrote: > Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: [snip] >> Is dma enabled for the hard drive? > > How do I check? what is this? Direct Memory Access. It lets data be xfered directly (go figure!) between RAM and the peripheral, without it

Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Piotr Dziubinski
I'm very irritated and disappointed with your policy! Why? I've used various Linux distributions for 8 years. I've been using Debian for the last 6 months, but today I changed my mind! After updating Firefox in Debian I realized that Firefox is no longer present in my operating system! Instead o

Re: Unable to use a new USB drive.

2007-01-26 Thread Roby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 10:26:31PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 01:37:11PM -0500, Roby wrote: >> > >> > Only a guess, but is the USB_STORAGE module loaded? >> >> No. it isn't. I guess a modprobe usb-storage is in order? > > Now it is, an

Re: AMD64 Etch DVD jigdo download failed due to missing file..

2007-01-26 Thread Steve McIntyre
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > >>From: Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >>Subject: Re: AMD64 Etch DVD jigdo download failed due to missing file.. >>Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:20:26 + >> >>On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:18:35AM +, Michael Fothergill

Re: OT: memory requirements

2007-01-26 Thread Tyler
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: Is this sarge/Etch/sid? Etch, upgraded a few days ago Just make sure that X is configured properly. Are you using the correct driver? Are there any warnings in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? As far as I can tell everything is fine. I've got the i810 driver as required fo

Medion 8818

2007-01-26 Thread peeper
I have installed a second Sata drive and installed Linux on it. To have linux recognize the drives go into the bios setup at boot by pressing the del key and set the bios to raid. Exit and save the bios setting. As the computer reboots showing the Intel logo, press the F8 key, after a second or

Re: AMD64 Etch DVD jigdo download failed due to missing file..

2007-01-26 Thread Michael Fothergill
From: Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: AMD64 Etch DVD jigdo download failed due to missing file.. Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 21:32:32 + In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > >>From: Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>T

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-26 Thread Firebeam
John L Fjellstad wrote: It does? I'm pretty sure I've only seen white-on-black command-line windows in Windows. Can't ever remember seeing a black-on-white window. I think he's not talking about the DOS prompt, but applications like word processors, spreadsheets and the like. --

module mach64 does not compile under kernel 2.6.

2007-01-26 Thread Mauro Darida
Hello all, after upgrade from sarge to etch direct rendering for my ati rage mobility mach64 card is not working anymore. I have self-compiled kernel 2.6.19. I downloaded both : common-20060403-linux.i386.tar.bz2 mach64-20060325-linux.i386.tar.bz2 but I am unable to install the second one, it abo

Re: OT: memory requirements

2007-01-26 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Friday 26 January 2007 12:26, Tyler wrote: > When the machine starts responding again I open top and find that xorg > and gv (which I'm viewing the image in) use near 100% of my CPU when I > resize the image, and xorg is using 70% of my memory. I imagine during > freezes more of the memory is b

Lwooking Uypskirt By Bylond CUDTEGIRLS Outdoor

2007-01-26 Thread Ofelia
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Re: AMD64 Etch DVD jigdo download failed due to missing file..

2007-01-26 Thread Michael Fothergill
From: Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: AMD64 Etch DVD jigdo download failed due to missing file.. Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:20:26 + On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:18:35AM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > It went OK for a while but this morning wh

Re: top post fixer?

2007-01-26 Thread John L Fjellstad
Dave Sherohman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I suspect it's because Gnome and KDE seem to think that "looks like > Windows" is the best interface design and Windows uses black-on-white, It does? I'm pretty sure I've only seen white-on-black command-line windows in Windows. Can't ever remember s

xmlns:regex="http://exslt.org/regular-expressions"

2007-01-26 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
Hello there, I am trying to do some regular expression using xsltproc, and as far as I understand it is using libexslt which should be using exslt.org packages, right ? But for some reason I don't see the regular expression being part of xsltproc extensions: Do I need to do something particular

Re: dialup connectivity problem

2007-01-26 Thread Owen Heisler
On 1/25/07, Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1/25/07, Owen Heisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had the problem of only 2KB/s on Debian and 4 on Windows. I fiddled > around with it and discovered that when I ran "wvdial" it would do the > full 4 (you get 30-50 with dialup?! Oops I meant Kb/

Re: SMTP server

2007-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 07:38:09PM +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > anecdotal support of exim > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet smtpauth.earthlink.net 25 > > > Trying 207.69.189.206... > > > Connected to smtpauth.earthlink.net. > > > Escape char

Re: OT: memory requirements

2007-01-26 Thread Tyler
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: is the disk activity during this operation? if so you're probably doing some massive swapping, in which case, yes memory will help. Yes, the disk light is on the whole time. I've also had similar, but unreproducible problems at other times (ie. not consistent wrt a

Re: OT: memory requirements

2007-01-26 Thread Tyler
Ron Johnson wrote: How much swap does your system use when processing the image? If it uses more than a few MB of swap, then you need more RAM. Otherwise, you need a faster CPU. Well, it was using much more than a few MB of swap, so perhaps I will upgrade the RAM. However, my immediate prob

Re: OT: memory requirements

2007-01-26 Thread Tyler
Vibhav Sharma wrote: if you are working with large images ... why don't you use gimp. Thanks. I was definitely using the wrong tool. I can open and zoom the images no problem in gimp. I had tried that before but couldn't get it to read the files at all. I played with the settings again and go

Re: [OT] Dilbert cartoon featurng Linux

2007-01-26 Thread Joshua J. Kugler
On Friday 26 January 2007 04:20, Max Hyre wrote: > Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-01-25 at 11:16 -0700, ChadDavis wrote: > >> Has anyone seen the Unix dilbert where a crusty old, Unix guy comes up > >> to dilbert, flips him a dime, and says,"Here kid, go buy yourself a > >> real computer."

Re: net install using USB flash disc

2007-01-26 Thread Hans du Plooy
It should be - I have the USB boot option in my BIOS (it's a fairly new notebook - HP nx6125). I have the option of a boot menu, which lets me select hard disc, optical drive or USB disc. If the USB drive is not plugged in, it doesn't show on that menu, so I know the BIOS can see it. I guess I'l

Re: Is the AMD K6 a 686?

2007-01-26 Thread celejar
On 1/26/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/07 10:21, celejar wrote: > In a previous post [0], I claimed that the AMD K6 isn't a 686 - I had > gotten that from the Archlinux website. A followup agreed with me. I > see these sites [1]

Re: webserver with power management

2007-01-26 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 23.01.07 13:49, Mark Grieveson wrote: > I have a webserver, using apache2. I've got gnome-power-manager running > too. I'm wondering if suspend via gnome-power-manager affects a website > being served. Or, does hibernate via gnome-power-manager affects a > website being served? I'm using Etc

Re: SMTP server

2007-01-26 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > anecdotal support of exim > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ telnet smtpauth.earthlink.net 25 > > Trying 207.69.189.206... > > Connected to smtpauth.earthlink.net. > > Escape character is '^]'. > > 220-elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net ESMTP Exim 4.34 #1 Sat, 2

Re: NTP dynamic servers?

2007-01-26 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 23.01.07 01:49, Bruno Voigt wrote: > I'm running debian/unstable on my laptop and often the LAN/WLAN is not > connected (yet) when the system is starting up - including NTPD. > > NTPD then seems to discard all unreachable server entries and ends up with > no peers left. In some googled doc I fo

Re: OT: memory requirements

2007-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 05:26:41PM +, Tyler wrote: > > I'm working with some fairly large image files on my Thinkpad R60 with > 512MB ram, running etch and fluxbox. On occassion the whole system > freezes for a minute or more after I zoom in or out. When this happens I > can usually get the

Re: net install using USB flash disc

2007-01-26 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 05:54:34PM +, Hans du Plooy wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm having no luck following this howto: > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en > > I just get the following: > > "Non-System disk or disk error > replace and strike any key when ready" > > I tr

Re: Rsync, how to include ~/.files but not ~/.dirs

2007-01-26 Thread Ken Irving
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 09:10:35AM -0900, Ken Irving wrote: > On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 09:33:33AM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > > On Friday 26 January 2007 09:19, Ken Irving wrote: > > > For some reason, .dir1/ is not excluded if the option is given as > > > --exclude=/tmp/home/*/.*/ or --exclude=tmp/ho

Re: net install using USB flash disc

2007-01-26 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Friday 26 January 2007 18:54, Hans du Plooy wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm having no luck following this howto: > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en > > I just get the following: > > "Non-System disk or disk error > replace and strike any key when ready" > > I tried both metho

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