Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Paul Johnson
Chris Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 11:53:19 -0700 > "David Haughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> The usual reply to this is submit a bug report. If it came >>> from a list, the reply should go to the list. If you want to >>> reply to the author, that should

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Paul Johnson
Chris Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yeah, googling with an additional qualitifer of "site:lists.debian.org" > or something like that. The disadvantage is that you don't get > the ability to search on date ranges and stuff like that, which > using the search engine provided by Debian for t

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Paul Johnson
Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I never check. I Google instead. I tried checking list archives a long > time ago and found it terribly inefficient. Is there some other > efficient way to search lists.debian.org that I don't know about? Google. Use the site: argument. -- Paul Johns

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Paul Johnson
Cheryl Homiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1. I have no intention of changing my email system. Then you have no intention of fixing the problem, which is entirely on your end. > 3. I also check lists.debian.org and I bet a lot of people do. I question that assertion. Had you done so, then you

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Paul Johnson
Cheryl Homiak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I agree that it's irritating to get duplicate messages. However, it's > often not that the person deliberately did a cc. At least in Pine, I > often get messages from this list where when I go to reply i'm asked if > I want to reply to all recipients. R

Re: Compile kernel on sid -> dependency problem on woody

2004-06-11 Thread Pablo Santiago Blum de Aguiar
On Sat, 2004-06-12 at 03:08, Laurent CARON wrote: > Pablo Santiago Blum de Aguiar wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > >I compiled a new kernel (2.4.18) for a woody box (a 233MHz pc) on my sid > >box (an Athlon 800MHz pc). On sid, I did an 'apt-get install > >kernel-source-2.4.26', configured the kernel for

Re: Compile kernel on sid -> dependency problem on woody

2004-06-11 Thread Laurent CARON
Pablo Santiago Blum de Aguiar wrote: Hi all, I compiled a new kernel (2.4.18) for a woody box (a 233MHz pc) on my sid box (an Athlon 800MHz pc). On sid, I did an 'apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.26', configured the kernel for my needs, ran 'make-kpkg clean' and used the following command do compi

Compile kernel on sid -> dependency problem on woody

2004-06-11 Thread Pablo Santiago Blum de Aguiar
Hi all, I compiled a new kernel (2.4.18) for a woody box (a 233MHz pc) on my sid box (an Athlon 800MHz pc). On sid, I did an 'apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.26', configured the kernel for my needs, ran 'make-kpkg clean' and used the following command do compile it: [/usr/src/linux] - 0 [EMAIL

Re: funny bug causing powerdown on install

2004-06-11 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from xyroth: > For some reason, when attempting to install debian (sarge) on one of my > k6-2/400 machines, it appears to install mostly, and then suddenly powers > the machine down before completing. > > As you can imagine, this makes it somewhat tricky trying to track down the > problem

Re: Why No Sound from Audio CD?

2004-06-11 Thread Steven Yap
On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 21:31, Ed Sutherland wrote: > I'm trying to play an audio CD from XMMS. The problem: while the CD is > detected and plays, there is no music. > > Anyone have a clue what I'm missing? Thanks. Did you connect the analogue audio out from your cd drive to your soundcard's inte

Re: Best Window Manager for the Job

2004-06-11 Thread dircha
Carl Fink wrote: On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 09:56:24PM -0500, Kent West wrote: No need to run a wm at all. I'm not sure how to set it up for all users, but for any one user, just set the ~/.xinitrc to have the single line in it "mozilla-firefox". I thought of that, too, as I posted, but what if a po

Re: Newbie firewall for Sarge

2004-06-11 Thread Silvan
> an entry for Firestarter anywhere in the KDE menus (after appropriately > installing Firestarter). When I did the same things in Knoppix/Sid, I did > find the Firestarter entry in the KDE menus. Um. Here was the answer to my similar query a bit back. Some new thing (menu-xdg) you have to in

Why No Sound from Audio CD?

2004-06-11 Thread Ed Sutherland
I'm trying to play an audio CD from XMMS. The problem: while the CD is detected and plays, there is no music. System sounds can be heard in KDE. The aRTS Builder example files can be heard. The OSS and aRTS output is specified in XMMS. Still, no sound. Anyone have a clue what I'm missing? Thank

Re: Website creating software

2004-06-11 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-06-11, S.D.A. penned: > On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 11:36:52AM -0600 or thereabouts, Monique Y. > Mudama wrote: >> On 2004-06-07, Nick Smith penned: >> > there is no way im going to design complex image maps or anything >> > else with lengthy code by hand any more, too much chance for error >>

fuuny bug causing powerdown on install

2004-06-11 Thread xyroth
For some reason, when attempting to install debian (sarge) on one of my k6-2/400 machines, it appears to install mostly, and then suddenly powers the machine down before completing. As you can imagine, this makes it somewhat tricky trying to track down the problem. It is also not debian specific,

Re: Newbie firewall for Sarge

2004-06-11 Thread Katipo
John Fleming wrote: Anyway, I think I will keep working on getting Firestarter going. What if I'm using KDE and open a terminal -window- and then start firestarter - Will that make the GUI appear?? As long as you call it up as root, yes. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Newbie firewall for Sarge

2004-06-11 Thread Mike Chandler
On Friday 11 June 2004 08:34 pm, John Fleming wrote: > > On Friday 11 June 2004 07:30 pm, John Fleming wrote: > > > Is there anything analagous to pmfirewall in Sarge (2.6 kernel)? I > > > downloaded pmfirewall because I was familiar with it, but it's not > > > compatible with the 2.6 kernel. I n

Re: Best Window Manager for the Job

2004-06-11 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 09:56:24PM -0500, Kent West wrote: > No need to run a wm at all. I'm not sure how to set it up for all users, > but for any one user, just set the ~/.xinitrc to have the single line in > it "mozilla-firefox". I thought of that, too, as I posted, but what if a popup windo

Re: Newbie firewall for Sarge

2004-06-11 Thread John Fleming
> On Friday 11 June 2004 07:30 pm, John Fleming wrote: > > Is there anything analagous to pmfirewall in Sarge (2.6 kernel)? I > > downloaded pmfirewall because I was familiar with it, but it's not > > compatible with the 2.6 kernel. I need something newbie-easy that I can > > configure remotely.

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Paul Scott: > s. keeling wrote: > > >No offense meant, really. But have you ever tried mutt? > > I would use mutt before pine any time but I use Thunderbird because of > its 3 panes displaying all of my mailboxes and the headers from the > selected mailbox or folder and the cur

Re: a pair of questions

2004-06-11 Thread Mike Chandler
On Friday 11 June 2004 06:39 pm, MillTek wrote: > Hi Mike, > I got the Nvidia driver to work with Sarge (from the latest installer). > It went precisely as Nvidia said. > > Here's a link to the installer I used; > > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2004/99 > > > Don't have a card r

Re: Best Window Manager for the Job

2004-06-11 Thread Kent West
James W. Thompson, II wrote: I am working on building a web browsing kiosk, no other functionality with Debian. I am planning to use FireFox and was wondering about the best Window Manager for the job. Here is the biggest catch, the system is old. + Pentium 233MHz + 32MB RAM (Going to try and upgra

Re: Newbie firewall for Sarge

2004-06-11 Thread Mike Chandler
On Friday 11 June 2004 07:30 pm, John Fleming wrote: > Is there anything analagous to pmfirewall in Sarge (2.6 kernel)? I > downloaded pmfirewall because I was familiar with it, but it's not > compatible with the 2.6 kernel. I need something newbie-easy that I can > configure remotely. Thanks -

Re: a pair of questions

2004-06-11 Thread Jerome R. Acks
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 04:54:14PM -0700, Christian C. Benito wrote: > all- > > 1) Has anyone been successful in making nvidia drivers > work with the 2.6 kernel? I keep trying, and it keeps > breaking my machine. Yes, both with self-compiled and Debian stock kernels, but I have not tried it with

Newbie firewall for Sarge

2004-06-11 Thread John Fleming
Is there anything analagous to pmfirewall in Sarge (2.6 kernel)? I downloaded pmfirewall because I was familiar with it, but it's not compatible with the 2.6 kernel. I need something newbie-easy that I can configure remotely. Thanks - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Lucent WaveLAN(orinoco) and 2.6.1

2004-06-11 Thread Alex Derkach
Hello, I am having a problem getting my Orinoco gold working under debian. I have patched my kernel with shmoo's orinoco monitor patch and have set up my /etc/pcmcia/* according to online docs for my laptop (Presario 2100). When I am in the location of a known accesspoint I see this in /var/logs/ke

Re: Website creating software

2004-06-11 Thread Jacob S.
On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 06:55:34 +0530 "Sridhar M.A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 01:08:49PM -0500, Jacob S. wrote: >> On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 11:36:52 -0600 >> "Monique Y. Mudama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > On 2004-06-07, Nick Smith penned: >> > > the

Re: a pair of questions

2004-06-11 Thread MillTek
Hi Mike, I got the Nvidia driver to work with Sarge (from the latest installer). It went precisely as Nvidia said. Here's a link to the installer I used; http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2004/99 Don't have a card reader. Jim Mike Chandler wrote: On Friday 11 June 2004 04:54 pm,

Re: Website creating software

2004-06-11 Thread Sridhar M.A.
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 01:08:49PM -0500, Jacob S. wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 11:36:52 -0600 > "Monique Y. Mudama" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 2004-06-07, Nick Smith penned: > > > there is no way im going to design complex image maps or anything > > > else with lengthy

Re: Console only box?

2004-06-11 Thread Alan Shutko
Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ok, let's take a non-trivial case. http://www.slashdot.org/ Actually, I read slashdot with lynx more than any other browser these days. Including comments. Now, those webboards like http://www.tivocommunity.com are much more difficult to read in Lyn

Re: Using the cp command.

2004-06-11 Thread alex
CW Harris wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 10:21:18AM -0400, alex wrote: I'm trying to copy the contents of one partition to another with: cp -afv (partition a)/* (partition b)/ Normally, the command works fine except when (partition b) already contains a large number of directories and

Re: OT wordprocessing anyone?

2004-06-11 Thread Brad Sims
On Friday 11 June 2004 7:58 am, Matthias Czapla wrote: > I think if you're not willing to learn LaTeX or troff commands you > don't have many options besides OpenOffice.org. Hrm, Abiword, Koffice are options, Kile is an option if you like LaTeX but despise Lyx,. Give Scribus a try. -- 'Basica

Re: Console only box?

2004-06-11 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 03:17:35PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Cheryl Homiak wrote: > > I've actually found very few sites I "can't read" in lynx; I don't find > > it "useless" at all. You do have to figure out which links to enter on, > > but it most certainly does handle frames. > > Ok, let's

Re: Warning: Sid upgrade loses most KDE Styles

2004-06-11 Thread Adam Aube
Adam Aube wrote: > Did an apt-get upgrade today, and almost all of the KDE Styles > disappeared. > The only KDE-related package that was upgraded was libqt3c102-mt Pinning to the previous version of libqt3c102-mt (3:3.2.3-2) and forcing a downgrade fixes the problem. Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: a pair of questions

2004-06-11 Thread Mike Chandler
On Friday 11 June 2004 04:54 pm, Christian C. Benito wrote: > all- > > 1) Has anyone been successful in making nvidia drivers > work with the 2.6 kernel? I keep trying, and it keeps > breaking my machine. > > 2) I just got a usb card reader. I built a new 2.4.26 > kernel that has all the relevant m

a pair of questions

2004-06-11 Thread Christian C. Benito
all- 1) Has anyone been successful in making nvidia drivers work with the 2.6 kernel? I keep trying, and it keeps breaking my machine. 2) I just got a usb card reader. I built a new 2.4.26 kernel that has all the relevant modules and drivers. I can see that it is in the usb filesystem, but I'm no

Warning: Sid upgrade loses most KDE Styles

2004-06-11 Thread Adam Aube
Did an apt-get upgrade today, and almost all of the KDE Styles disappeared. The only ones left are CDE, MS Windows 95, Motif, Motif Plus, Platinum, and SGI. The only KDE-related package that was upgraded was libqt3c102-mt, which I've already filed a bug against. Just an alert for those who may not

Re: Best Window Manager for the Job

2004-06-11 Thread Katipo
James W. Thompson, II writes: I am working on building a web browsing kiosk, no other functionality with Debian. I am planning to use FireFox and was wondering about the best Window Manager for the job. In order to be as compatible with your predominantly menu orientated users as possible

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Paul Scott
Chris Metzler wrote: On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:22:03 -0700 Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: s. keeling wrote: <>3. I also check lists.debian.org and I bet a lot of people do. Everyone forgets from time to time. Many never check. I never check. I Google instead. I tried checkin

Re: browsers: was: Console only box?

2004-06-11 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Parts of the site I could navigate and parts I couldn't, but the same thing happens to me with many sites with links. I said that lynx works for me for a lot of things, that it isn't "useless" to me. I search, find, download and shop every day with lynx and, though I certainly would like to se

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Chris Metzler
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:22:03 -0700 Paul Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > s. keeling wrote: >>> <>3. I also check lists.debian.org and I bet a lot of people do. >>> Everyone forgets from time to time. Many never check. > > I never check. I Google instead. I tried checking list archives a long >

Re: alsa not working

2004-06-11 Thread Chris Metzler
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:42:52 +0200 John van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 11 June 2004 22:06, Chris Metzler wrote: >> >> Your problem is that you are loading OSS modules. The ALSA modules >> can't load if the OSS modules are installed. First, remove the OSS >> modules from your

Re: Best Window Manager for the Job

2004-06-11 Thread John Hasler
James W. Thompson, II writes: > I am working on building a web browsing kiosk, no other functionality > with Debian. I am planning to use FireFox and was wondering about the > best Window Manager for the job. None. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI --

Re: saving iptables rules?

2004-06-11 Thread Adam Aube
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Adam Aube wrote: >> /etc/init.d/iptables save active > Except that is just a hold over from old versions of the package. It > doesn't exist in new installs. Odd that it would be removed without a suitable replacement provided. Adam -- To UNSUBS

Re: Shutdown

2004-06-11 Thread Zenaan Harkness
fyi On Sat, 2004-06-12 at 08:06, Alex wrote: > Thanks all, > I finally got it. I added to menu /sbin/poweroff and /sbin/reboot and then > chmod +s /sbin/halt > > I use KDE by default; it work nicely, except I can't find where is the > Actions section of the menu. I want to put these items there.

Re: saving iptables rules?

2004-06-11 Thread Harshwardhan Shashikant Nagaonkar
Ralph Crongeyer wrote: How does one save iptables rules in Debian "Unstable/SID"? I've tried iptables-save and get some output with no errors, but when I reboot all my rules are gone? Is there a "Debian way" of doing this? Rather than write my own startup script I want to find out if there's a s

Re: Console only box?

2004-06-11 Thread Steve Lamb
Cheryl Homiak wrote: > I've actually found very few sites I "can't read" in lynx; I don't find > it "useless" at all. You do have to figure out which links to enter on, > but it most certainly does handle frames. Ok, let's take a non-trivial case. http://www.slashdot.org/ :) -- St

Re: Best Window Manager for the Job

2004-06-11 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 11:31:01AM -0500, James W. Thompson, II wrote: > I am working on building a web browsing kiosk, no other functionality > with Debian. I am planning to use FireFox and was wondering about the > best Window Manager for the job. Here is the biggest catch, the system > is old. >

Re: Shutdown

2004-06-11 Thread Patrick Lane
It's equivalent to typing "poweroff" at a command line. I've been shutting off this way for a couple months, no side effects that I've seen/noticed. On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 14:40, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On Sat, 2004-06-12 at 04:12, Patrick Lane wrote: > > I am probably coming in the middle of thi

Re: apt-get through a proxy

2004-06-11 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 09:37:14AM -0600, Marvin Gerardo Aguero Salazar wrote: > Hi guys, > > I am currently on an installation that accesses the internet over a > proxy. apt-get stopped working for me with this configuration. > > Is there a way to get apt-get working via a proxy? > You can de

Re: installation (problems with cd-rom)

2004-06-11 Thread Adam Aube
Tomaz Kravcar wrote: > I am trying to install Debian 3.0r2 (for the first time) on my Gericom > Webgine notebook. In the first phase i had no problem (install base > system), then after rebooting, system just didn't recognize cdrom > I think i am missing ide-scsi.o in /lib/modules/2.2.20-idepci/c

Re: OT wordprocessing anyone?

2004-06-11 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 11:28:06AM -0400, richard lyons wrote: > On Friday 11 June 2004 09:08, Brendan Halpin wrote: > > Matthias Czapla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 08:03:00AM -0400, richard lyons wrote: > > > > Do folk here have recommendations about how to do > > > >

Re: alsa not working

2004-06-11 Thread John van Spaandonk
On Friday 11 June 2004 22:06, Chris Metzler wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:51:13 +0200 > > John van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I searched linuxquestions.org and the last year of this list but > > could not find anything relevant. > > > > Problem: > > alsa sound not workin

Re: Shutdown

2004-06-11 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, 2004-06-12 at 04:12, Patrick Lane wrote: > I am probably coming in the middle of this thread and don't know exactly > what's going on (just re-subscribed to the list). But are you trying to > get a "shutdown" button in gnome without having to log out and do it via > gdm? > > Simply make a

cant ssh in from outside world

2004-06-11 Thread Nick Smith
i recently just ran into this problem when i moved my mail server from cable to dsl, (comcast to bellsouth). i didnt change any of the settings, that i know of. i can ftp, send/receive mail, but i cant ssh in. its very frustrating because that is how i fix anything thats gone wrong, check log fil

Re: apt-get testing & stable questions

2004-06-11 Thread Adam Aube
James W. Thompson, II wrote: > can I get only certain packages from testing while leaving the rest of > my system on the stable chain without messing too much stuff up and do > it automatically through apt-get? Depends on what you get, though it will be very easy to make a mess of your system. I

Re: saving iptables rules?

2004-06-11 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Adam Aube wrote: > Ralph Crongeyer wrote: > > > How does one save iptables rules in Debian "Unstable/SID"? I've tried > > iptables-save and get some output with no errors, but when I reboot all > > my rules are gone? > > /etc/init.d/iptables save active > Except that is just

Re: saving iptables rules?

2004-06-11 Thread Adam Aube
Ralph Crongeyer wrote: > How does one save iptables rules in Debian "Unstable/SID"? I've tried > iptables-save and get some output with no errors, but when I reboot all > my rules are gone? /etc/init.d/iptables save active Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: Debian testing vs unstable for home workstation?

2004-06-11 Thread Micha Feigin
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 04:45:06AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 07:29:43AM +, Adam Funk wrote: > > I've been using Debian testing on my home workstation for a while now > > and am generally happy with it, but I understand there are some > > disadvantages in comparison with

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Paul Scott
s. keeling wrote: No offense meant, really. But have you ever tried mutt? I would use mutt before pine any time but I use Thunderbird because of its 3 panes displaying all of my mailboxes and the headers from the selected mailbox or folder and the current message simultaneously. I use the

Re: random performance problems in X

2004-06-11 Thread Adam Aube
martin f krafft wrote: > I just put together a machine with a 3GHz Athlon, 1Gb of 400MHz > DDR-RAM and a 64 Mb dual-head ATI Radeon 7500 PCI. It's running > a Debian 2.6.6-k7 kernel. The system works fine and seems pretty > performant, but every now and then it does weird things. > > For instance

Re: Best Window Manager for the Job

2004-06-11 Thread William Ballard
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 11:31:01AM -0500, James W. Thompson, II wrote: > Any ideas? I searched the archives and didn't find anything real useful. fluxbox, which ironically is also the best WM on the higest end P4 3.2 + 9800XT with 1gig memory. That is, if you like it to be fast -- To UNSU

Re: saving iptables rules?

2004-06-11 Thread Darryl Luff
Ralph Crongeyer wrote: How does one save iptables rules in Debian "Unstable/SID"? I've tried iptables-save and get some output with no errors, but when I reboot all my rules are gone? Is there a "Debian way" of doing this? Rather than write my own startup script I want to find out if there's a

Re: why is logcheck failing?: [Fwd: Logcheck: zen8100a 2004-06-11 11:02 exiting due to errors]

2004-06-11 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 12:22, Dana J. Laude wrote: > Logcheck has changed recently. Make sure logcheck is a member of > the adm group. Also, /etc/logcheck directory should have the > owner of root, group - logcheck. Also, the /var/lib/logcheck > dir should be owner logcheck, group adm and del

Re: why is logcheck failing?: [Fwd: Logcheck: zen8100a 2004-06-11 11:02 exiting due to errors]

2004-06-11 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 22:56, Greg Folkert wrote: > SOMETHING changed the perms in /var/* > > they should be : > drwxrwsr-x2 root staff4096 2000-05-27 14:55 local > drwxrwxrwt3 root root 4096 2004-06-03 00:58 lock > drwxrwxrwt4 root r

Re: Best Window Manager for the Job

2004-06-11 Thread James W. Thompson, II
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 22:50:06 +0300 (EEST), Martin Fluch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Carl Fink wrote: > > > > ... I am wanting to use a graphical login > > > > Why? That is, why have a login at all? Let root use the "real" VT > > console and startx from a VT to start X. >

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Cheryl Homiak: > I have my configuration set to use "reply-to"; maybe that's wrong. > However, it isn't purely a Pine problem; I never have this problem with > many lists to which I am subscribed; the list email is automatically > chosen. In fact, I have to intervene manually with

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Cheryl Homiak: > 1. I have no intention of changing my email system. No offense meant, really. But have you ever tried mutt? You should have no trouble going from one to the other interchangably (they shouldn't do any rmail style mangling of your existing mail, for instance). The

apt-get testing & stable questions

2004-06-11 Thread James W. Thompson, II
I have what might be a stupid question... can I get only certain packages from testing while leaving the rest of my system on the stable chain without messing too much stuff up and do it automatically through apt-get? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe

Courier IMAP shared folders

2004-06-11 Thread Pete Clarke
Hi all, I have a working installation of courier-imap for general mail delivery, the problem I am having is with shared folders. I can set up shared folders thus: maildirmake -S /home/shared/maildir maildirmake -s write -f Announcements /home/shared/maildir create /etc/courier/maildirshared wit

saving iptables rules?

2004-06-11 Thread Ralph Crongeyer
How does one save iptables rules in Debian "Unstable/SID"? I've tried iptables-save and get some output with no errors, but when I reboot all my rules are gone? Is there a "Debian way" of doing this? Rather than write my own startup script I want to find out if there's a standard way of doing t

installation (problems with cd-rom)

2004-06-11 Thread Tomaz Kravcar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am trying to install Debian 3.0r2 (for the first time) on my Gericom Webgine notebook. In the first phase i had no problem (install base system), then after rebooting, system just didn't recognize cdrom (At the point where I have to choose from which

Re: Partition sizes

2004-06-11 Thread Patrick Lane
everything looks reasonable to me except that / is definitely too small and I generally allocate a lot more space to /tmp. Any reason in particular you're keeping it so small? I also usually have a /boot partition. btw, my box is named blue also, damned biter! =) On Fri, 2004-06-11 at 12:55, Davi

Re: Console only box?

2004-06-11 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 10:44:30AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > David Haughton wrote: > > I still prefer lynx over links (or links2 or whatever). That is fair ... > 1: This is debian list. As such it behooves you to follow the CoC as laid out > here: . Yo

Rendez vous de l'emploi !

2004-06-11 Thread Emploi
Pour vous désinscrire de la liste cliquez ici merci ! nous nous excusons pour les personnes qui recevront ce e-mail 2 fois , un bogue informatique est la source . merci de votre compréhension!

Partition sizes

2004-06-11 Thread David Balch
Hi, I think I need to change my hard drive partitioning on a testing install, and want to make sure I'm not missing something that would mean I didn't have to. Here's the situation... [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a Linux blue 2.4.25-1-386 #2 Wed Apr 14 19:38:08 EST 2004 i686 GNU/Linux [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Best Window Manager for the Job

2004-06-11 Thread Martin Fluch
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Carl Fink wrote: > > ... I am wanting to use a graphical login > > Why? That is, why have a login at all? Let root use the "real" VT > console and startx from a VT to start X. But please change the user id to something else then "root" before launching X. But definitly th

Re: alsa not working

2004-06-11 Thread Chris Metzler
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 21:51:13 +0200 John van Spaandonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > I searched linuxquestions.org and the last year of this list but > could not find anything relevant. > > Problem: > alsa sound not working. > alsaconf is not working either. It says no pci cards found, an

Re: alsa not working

2004-06-11 Thread John van Spaandonk
A little more info. I can get sound in kde if I do not set the sound system to alsa, but set it on automatic or oss... John On Friday 11 June 2004 21:51, John van Spaandonk wrote: > Hi, > > I searched linuxquestions.org and the last year of this list but > could not find anything relevant. > >

alsa not working

2004-06-11 Thread John van Spaandonk
Hi, I searched linuxquestions.org and the last year of this list but could not find anything relevant. Problem: alsa sound not working. alsaconf is not working either. It says no pci cards found, and scanning for legacy ISA cards is not useful, I don't have those. So automatic configuration does

RE: ssh delays and drops

2004-06-11 Thread David Haughton
> On 2004-06-11 14:18:05 -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > > I have been noticing lately some significant delays in my ssh > > connections when I log in from work. At first I thought > that it could > > be that my signals were been studied behind the firewall at > my work, > > but later I foun

Re: Gui interface ideas

2004-06-11 Thread Peter Dembinski
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 01:53:43AM -0700, Loren M. Lang wrote: [...] > I was looking for a good way to make a quick gui, ideally independent > of the current programs. I would use fltk or xforms together with small X server running on either Linux or Windows machine, depending on your need.

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Ken Simon
Chris Metzler wrote: Most email clients I've encounterred (mutt, sylpheed, balsa, evolution, etc.) don't act this way. Outlook is MS crap and is broken in lots of other ways too. Pine is old; is it still even being developed? Thunderbird, OTOH, I thought *did* handle this correctly, and is broken

Re: Xfce4 dies instead of prompting when I click the logout button on the panel.

2004-06-11 Thread Hamilton Coutinho
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 07:27:32AM +, Adam Funk wrote: > In the XFCE4 settings, I have requested confirmation before logging out. > This used to work, but since a week or two ago it consistently crashes > after I click the logout button in the panel but before it displays the > confirmation b

Re: Best Window Manager for the Job

2004-06-11 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 11:31:01AM -0500, James W. Thompson, II wrote: > Debian installed with no problems as a minimal install but I want to > have some kind of idea of where I am going. To be honest, I have never > configured a system for quite this purpose ... Neither have I, but not knowing

Re: Website creating software

2004-06-11 Thread S.D.A.
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 11:36:52AM -0600 or thereabouts, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: > On 2004-06-07, Nick Smith penned: > > there is no way im going to design complex image maps or anything else > > with lengthy code by hand any more, too much chance for error and it > > takes way too long to do it.

Re: OT wordprocessing anyone?

2004-06-11 Thread Matthias Czapla
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 11:08:52AM -0400, richard lyons wrote: > On Friday 11 June 2004 08:58, Matthias Czapla wrote: > [...] > > I think if you're not willing to learn LaTeX or troff commands you > > don't have many options besides OpenOffice.org. I personally like > > groff much more than LaTeX b

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Chris Metzler
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004 11:53:19 -0700 "David Haughton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> The usual reply to this is submit a bug report. If it came >> from a list, the reply should go to the list. If you want to >> reply to the author, that should take manual intervention. >> In the meantime, sw

Re: ssh delays and drops

2004-06-11 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 09:02:38PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2004-06-11 14:18:05 -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > > I have been noticing lately some significant delays in my ssh > > connections when I log in from work. At first I thought that it could > > be that my signals were been stud

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Matthias Czapla
On Fri, Jun 11, 2004 at 11:53:19AM -0700, David Haughton wrote: > > Incoming from Cheryl Homiak: > > > I agree that it's irritating to get duplicate messages. > > However, it's > > > often not that the person deliberately did a cc. At least > > in Pine, I > > > often > > > > The usual reply to

Re: ssh delays and drops

2004-06-11 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2004-06-11 14:18:05 -0400, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > I have been noticing lately some significant delays in my ssh > connections when I log in from work. At first I thought that it could > be that my signals were been studied behind the firewall at my work, > but later I found out that some oth

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I have my configuration set to use "reply-to"; maybe that's wrong. However, it isn't purely a Pine problem; I never have this problem with many lists to which I am subscribed; the list email is automatically chosen. In fact, I have to intervene manually with very few lists and this is one of th

RE: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread David Haughton
> Incoming from Cheryl Homiak: > > I agree that it's irritating to get duplicate messages. > However, it's > > often not that the person deliberately did a cc. At least > in Pine, I > > often > > The usual reply to this is submit a bug report. If it came > from a list, the reply should go to

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Cheryl Homiak
1. I have no intention of changing my email system. 2. I do take the time to manually change the destination address if it's wrong; otherwise, you would be getting a cc of this. so the idea that it will "never happen" is perhaps correct in percentage but not totally correct. 3. I also check lis

Re: Best Window Manager for the Job

2004-06-11 Thread Nate Bargmann
* James W. Thompson, II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004 Jun 11 11:41 -0500]: > I am working on building a web browsing kiosk, no other functionality > with Debian. I am planning to use FireFox and was wondering about the > best Window Manager for the job. Here is the biggest catch, the system > is old. >

RE: Console only box?

2004-06-11 Thread Cheryl Homiak
I've actually found very few sites I "can't read" in lynx; I don't find it "useless" at all. You do have to figure out which links to enter on, but it most certainly does handle frames. If your experience with it is that it is "useless", that's fine for you; I find it quite useful and do tons o

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Ken Simon
Cheryl Homiak wrote: I agree that it's irritating to get duplicate messages. However, it's often not that the person deliberately did a cc. At least in Pine, I often get messages from this list where when I go to reply i'm asked if I want to reply to all recipients. If I say no, I end up with th

Re: ccing

2004-06-11 Thread Monique Y. Mudama
On 2004-06-11, Cheryl Homiak penned: > I agree that it's irritating to get duplicate messages. However, it's > often not that the person deliberately did a cc. At least in Pine, I > often get messages from this list where when I go to reply i'm asked > if I want to reply to all recipients. If I say

Re: Best Window Manager for the Job

2004-06-11 Thread Joris
James W. Thompson, II verraste ons met de boodschap: > I am working on building a web browsing kiosk, no other functionality > with Debian. I am planning to use FireFox and was wondering about the > best Window Manager for the job. Here is the biggest catch, the system > is old. I've built a kios

RE: Console only box?

2004-06-11 Thread Preston Boyington
David Haughton wrote: > Steve Lamb wrote: > >> David Haughton wrote: >> >>> Then you have "elm" and "lynx" for email and web and that's pretty >>> much all you need, eh? >> >> >> s/elmg/mutt/ >> s/lynx/links/ >> > > I still prefer lynx over links (or links2 or whatever). agreed. and

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