r "$F" : '[[:alnum:]_-]\+$' > /dev/null 2>&1; then
|if [ -f "$1/$F" ] && [ ! -f "$1/${F}.disabled" ] ; then
| echo "$1/$F"
|fi
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On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 07:25:34 -0400, Chris Knadle
wrote:
>On Thursday, June 13, 2013 06:41:16, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 08:17:11 +0100, Ian Campbell
>>
>> wrote:
>> >I've just tried this on Wheezy and stuff written in
>> >
>> >
han. The old exim 3 packages worked totally different. I
fully understand that exim4 2003 might have had serious and bad bugs,
but I think that most of them have been ironed out by now.
That doesn't mean that I am not going to break exim during the jessie
release cycle, bu
On Fri, 14 Jun 2013 21:49:59 -0400, Chris Knadle
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>On Friday, June 14, 2013 02:31:45, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:42:15 -0400, Chris Knadle
>> wrote:
>> >So right now I think that I probably just didn't know that this had been
>> >f
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 12:14:57 +0100, Neil McGovern
wrote:
>Given that the middle '0' was redundant, and we now do X.0 for all
>major releases, it was simply removed.
>
>(additionally, there were never any 4.0.x releases...)
So sarge was a point release of
nly done via email not
>via a web browser. You can either use the reportbug program or send
>mail manually.
Klaus knows that very well, as he is a user of the Debian BTS for
decades.
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On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:06:42 -0400, Alexandre Rebert
wrote:
>On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Marc Haber
> wrote:
>> Additionally, I guess that the vast majority of crahes you have found
>> will be upstream bugs which the Debian maintainer would have to
>> forward upstrea
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 11:46:04 -0700, Russ Allbery
wrote:
>Marc Haber writes:
>
>> Will you also check Debian unstable? It is much easier to have a package
>> in unstable fixed, and I suspect that not every crash you find will be a
>> security relevant one.
>
>I
een lock is engaged, a feature I have been
waiting for a long time.
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oo much with it without
>understanding the concept behind it.
Where are the end-user docs that explain the concept?
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r wording utterly offensive and thus
inacceptable. This is not helping. You are doing harm to your causes.
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>to clean that up and make the whole interface more consistent and
>easier to understand.
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On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:20:19 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
wrote:
>On 07/17/2013 09:24 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:09:20 +0200, Josselin Mouette
>> wrote:
>>> What I find rude is that a minority of idiots is taking the project
>>> ho
ely
unuseable. There is one thing grub upstream did right, they waited
until their product was quite stable before they made the jump from
1.99 to 2.0.
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gt;drivers' problem to fix.
I am not surprised by that.
>I wonder what systemd integration problems will be handwaved as "somebody
>else's problem", the way the kernel audio driver issues were for PA.
Me too. Surely it will happen.
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On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 11:31:10 +0200, Josselin Mouette
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>people trying to map their ideology of what a
>Debian system should be to users
Hear! Hear!
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On Sat, 20 Jul 2013 11:27:58 +0200, Josselin Mouette
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>If this is about kFreeBSD, it would be nice and all to share the init
>system with these ports, but it should certainly not have an influence
>on the choice of init system for the Linux ports.
Why?
G
gt;(customers) due to too-short support of old releases and too-far away
>releases. Both are real problems, regardless of why DreamHost decided to
>give up on Debian.
And if they switch to Ubuntu, they at least keep the solid technical
base. If I have to see them go, it is good that they don&#x
ckages directly while bypassing the gateway scanner.
It might even lead to a knee-jerk reaction like "This Debian thingy
keeps setting off our security alerts, let's ban it and use a
supported enterprise distro".
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>I'm missing why the package cannot use the EICAR test virus signature for
>its purposes.
eicar.com does not have a distributable license.
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>Marc Haber schrieb:
>>On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 13:19:38 +0200, "Thijs Kinkhorst"
>> wrote:
>>>I'm missing why the package cannot use the EICAR test virus signature
>>for
>>>its purposes
On Wed, 16 Oct 2013 20:17:53 +, "Andrew M.A. Cater"
wrote:
>On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:12:47AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2013 12:54:36 +0200, Dominik George
>> wrote:
>> >> Some of the source packages were caught on a gateway anti-virus s
at least the DNSSEC RFC) terminology uses "resolver" as the
>term which is pretty close match to "recursive name server".
Other literature recommends the name "full service resolver" to
distinguish from the "resolver" part of libc. The PowerDNS
inions are well-known.)
>
>GNOME tweak tool has existed since GNOME 3.
Like Windows TweakUI which has been necessary since nearly 20 years?
Does GNOME need to emulate everything?
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were not present.
They choose the way most easy for them, which is behavior often
encountered inside the systemd-favoring community. Too bad.
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gt;something stupid like a RAID 5 root.
Or something intelligent like having the system boot from a removable
medium (which can be removed after booting). Please keep the
possibility to do this.
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the header sender
to fit the account that has authenticated.
This is a contradition to the Unix way of doing things, and our
default MTA, exim, does not handle this situation particularly well.
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m the PXE server any more, resulting in newly
deployed servers not even finding their disks.
Additionally, the new[1] tg3 driver broke compatibility with the tg3
chip built into IBM's HS12. The site in question would have rejected
the last point release for that reason, if it were possible t
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:26:33 +, Ben Hutchings
wrote:
>On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 09:08:17PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:00:26 +0100, Adam Borowski
>> wrote:
>> >For example: you download the current point release, burn it to a CD
>> &g
arts of the distribution?
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On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 19:48:24 +, Ben Hutchings
wrote:
>On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 05:59:59PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:43:32 +, "Adam D. Barratt"
>> wrote:
>> >but
>> >the kernel team have been very good in the past about f
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 17:15:13 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow
wrote:
>Marc Haber writes:
>> The solution would be to offer additional install media with
>> additional support. The mere chance of introducing a regression is a
>> risk which I think should not be taken by Debian.
&
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:34:03 +, Steve McIntyre
wrote:
>Marc Haber wrote:
>>On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:26:33 +, Ben Hutchings
>> wrote:
>>>I can't imagine why you would expect this to work.
>>
>>I wouldn't. The site was just surprised by the
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 18:58:55 + (UTC), Philipp Kern
wrote:
>On 2011-12-02, Marc Haber wrote:
>> I also support this and think it is a really good idea. But please
>> keep x.y.z-1 around and easily accessible when x.y.z is released.
>
>You can jigdo any old CD image.
H
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 21:21:34 +0100, Goswin von Brederlow
wrote:
>Philipp Kern writes:
>> On 2011-12-02, Marc Haber wrote:
>>> I also support this and think it is a really good idea. But please
>>> keep x.y.z-1 around and easily accessible when x.y.z is released.
>
On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 03:59:18 +0800, pei deng
wrote:
>I think debian should release a publish version with roll updating as
>archlinux. and remove testing and sid version.
Kindly try to understand how Debian's release process works before
suggesting things.
Gre
tart at time)
Did any of the distributions named above commit themselves to care
about "exotic" platforms and/or non-Linux kernels?
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a different between "I don't care about portability" and "I
won't accept any patches that are only useful on non-Linux platforms".
The former could be remedied by submitting documented and maintained
patches, which saves the world from early forks that ae bound to
d
On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 10:14:04 +0200, Riku Voipio
wrote:
>On Sun, Mar 04, 2012 at 09:12:32AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>> There is a different between "I don't care about portability" and "I
>> won't accept any patches that are only useful on non-Linux platfo
being a Linux platform just to have
systemd?
Debian being a platform which is frequently used for low-powered,
embedded stuff: How will a systemd driven platform behave on a
platform with small memory and low CPU power compared to sysvinit?
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On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:57:45 +0100, Josselin Mouette
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>Le mercredi 07 mars 2012 à 07:43 +0100, Marc Haber a écrit :
>> The differences between systemd and openssh are that core OpenSSH does
>> not work on "our" main architecture, and that there is an active
&
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:59:02 +0100, Josselin Mouette
wrote:
>Le lundi 05 mars 2012 à 12:11 +0100, Marc Haber a écrit :
>> The migration to udev didn't cause double work for daemon maintainers.
>
>Excuse me?
>
>Having to support both udev and HAL just for the sake of Hu
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:48:47 +0100, Stephan Seitz
wrote:
>If I want „cool” Linux things, then I don’t use a distribution
>which is proud to be a cross-platform distribution.
Amen.
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On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 18:02:16 +0100, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
>On Mar 16, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:26:35 +0100, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
>> >The problem is the lack of code for the toy ports,
>> It would really be nice if y
iner, and subversion does version control rather
well for most uses.
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further checking, feel free to re-open if it's
still present".
This is, imo, the result of Debian's lack of personpower in core areas
of the distribution.
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s for package salvaging, as the current discussion
>> thread on salvaging packages shows.
>
>Neither of those gets *more people* in the teams of core packages.
Ack.
> - who would like a couple of DDs and a dozen of bug workers for pkg-kde
Amen.
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[1] in the sense of RFC 2119.
Michael Biebl wrote:
>Afaik the work was started by pochu as port of GSoC [1][2]. According
>to
>[3], Marc was his mentor. I've CCed both, maybe they can comment on
>what's still missing.
>I'd love to see that happen.
Joss ended up being the mentor (melange
l.
>Maybe for the time being it will be easier and safer to have ifupdown
>wait until DAD is finished?
How does one find out about that?
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On Sun, 4 Nov 2012 18:26:26 +0100, martin f krafft
wrote:
>also sprach Marc Haber [2012.11.04.1013 +0100]:
>> >Maybe for the time being it will be easier and safer to have ifupdown
>> >wait until DAD is finished?
>>
>> How does one find out about that?
>
On Sun, 04 Nov 2012 15:34:26 +, Ben Hutchings
wrote:
>This wouldn't solve the problem that the UDP servers have, which is that
>they need to be able to send replies from the same address the request
>was sent to.
Right.
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ed or prefer them.
Aren't the systemd makers trying hard to move existing functionality
from udev, consolekit, policykit and syslogd into systemd, effectively
making those unavailable for non-Linux?
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happen, and it is good that this is not going to happen.
As a non-user of GNOME or MATE, I would hate to have the release
delayed for that reason.
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thon or ruby modules that can parse (or
even write?) that ISC-style config file format that I really like?
libconfig-inifiles-perl does a good job for the ugly format.
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age, introducing the time lag caused by releases
once for them and once for us, and that our packaging of their softwae
was done in a way that ruby packages are the biggest nightmare to
backport that I have ever seen[2] (gem2deb, 'nuff said).
I do sincerely hope that most of those things wi
from Debian altogether. Maybe that's just me...
Ruby is actually a pretty nice language, and it is needed by the two
major Configuration Management tools that are both widely used in
business, puppet and chef.
I have never looked into Ruby's internals, aber I happen to l
ian wheezy.
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le archive, run apt-get update and apt-get install $PACKAGE.
Am I the only one who thinks this is terribly backwards as compared to
hand-editing dpkg-checkbuildep's output to an apt-get install command
line?
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ld, albeit in a chroot rather than installing on the
>host system. You'll need to create a build chroot with
>sbuild-createchroot first.
That is much more than one usually needs. When I need that
functionality, I am usually already chrooted.
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>On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:05:47 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
>>>The tool you are looking for is "mk-build-deps" from the package
>>>"devscripts&quo
lddeps --package-names-only)
>
>#214566
Dated 2003, with a patch since 2010, with the first maintainer
reaction 2013.
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On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 12:27:15 +0200, Jakub Wilk
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>Or just pass -i to mk-build-deps, which does all the steps for you.
Missed that. Sorry. Thanks.
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A smaller footprint of the intalled system? This may be interesting
for embedded things.
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On Tue, 7 May 2013 19:31:36 +0400, ? ?
wrote:
>What about merging / and /usr ?
So we really want to explicitly not offer an upgade path from wheezy
to jessie?
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Afaik, they have been following dependencies for a decade now, so this
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On Wed, 8 May 2013 01:06:41 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
>On May 07, Marc Haber wrote:
>> >What about merging / and /usr ?
>> So we really want to explicitly not offer an upgade path from wheezy
>> to jessie?
>This causes no major issues on upgrades
ware so that the system never gets beyond initrd
stage if mount /usr fails, we increase the change of breaking boot
because _two_ filesystems need to be fine and mounted before we leave
initrd.
Both changes are bad from a robustness point of view. Keeping the ro
, cannot be changed because of
service level agreements and certifications.
Using Debian happens beyond single-user home desktop settings, you
know.
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nyway).
>
>For each $file in /{bin,sbin,lib}:
> if $file is a symlink to /usr/.../$file
>do nothing
> else
>cp -a $file to /usr/...
>ln -sf ../usr/.../$file $file
That's a hack which is acceptable for single-user home desktops. We're
t
hange their
operations, which is hard for many people, let alone the case when
emergency manuals need to be changed just for the sake of satisfying
Lennart.
>I find the busybox shell to be just as effective as a rescue
>disc in most cases.
I don't.
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>On May 09, Marc Haber wrote:
>> That's a hack which is acceptable for single-user home desktops. We're
>> talking about professional IT here.
>Great, if this is the strongest objection you
On Thu, 9 May 2013 15:50:45 +0200, Philipp Kern
wrote:
>On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 10:32:09AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
>> That's how I do it for new installs. However, this is vastly more
>> complex than the traditional setup, and it doesn't help for systems in
>> mai
odules for each
>kernel, currently in /lib) in another partition.
But I'll have the fsck version that is guaranteed to fit my /usr file
system in the big /usr file system, so I'll be forced to use an fsck
from a rescue image which might not be the current one, possibly
cau
On Fri, 10 May 2013 11:48:37 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
>On May 10, Marc Haber wrote:
>> Having the rescue image _this_ independent is not really desireable
>> since one would probably have to deal with outdated or non-existing
>> rescue tools in the i
t's another waste of time to reason with you.
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s? Should it not be replaced with Debian, too?
The software on the networked power switch might suffer from the same
flaws, and a networked power switch doesn't help if the device doesn't
come on with the power for some reason.
Greetings
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rate the disabled flag to update-rc.d disable on upgrade).
If the article on
http://blog.zugschlus.de/archives/974-Debians-Policy-rc.d-infrastructure-explained.html
is of any help, I will happily put it under a free license so that
Debian can freely copy-paste from there
e to change policy to no longer deprecate
depending on bash if one uses ä!/bin/bash scripts.
The second step would be a lintian warning if a package contains a
#!/bin/bash script without depending on bash.
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new their certificates only in the last (two?) weeks of the
lifetime. You cannot renew them ad your convenience, you have to do it
at theirs.
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On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 14:32:49 +1100, Dmitry Smirnov
wrote:
>On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 15:29:12 Marc Haber wrote:
>> wrote:
>> >I just want to note that Startcom is no match to cacert.org in regards to
>> >free SSL certificates. Some years ago I got free certificate from St
On Tue, 25 Mar 2014 13:31:44 -0500, Kevin Toppins
wrote:
>You think I'm retarded or a troll.
You are an obnoxious who decided to disrupt an entire
project just because the project took a decision you don't like.
That's rather childish and selfish.
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y complex setup such as a firewall or a VM host,
ifupdown is still _the_ most functional way to go with no real viable
alternative.
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2014 10:26:28 +1100, Brian May
wrote:
>On 29 March 2014 18:10, Marc Haber wrote:
>> My last renew of a startcom certificate was in February 2014. I guess
>> you were victim of misunderstanding, or they indeed check what kind of
>> service a certificate i
seable if you offer your web site to muggles. It's
not in the browsers.
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On Tue, 01 Apr 2014 11:04:43 +0100, Philip Hands
wrote:
>Marc Haber writes:
>> On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 16:03:30 -0700, Russ Allbery
>> wrote:
>>>Of course, I'm one of those people who believes that web site certificate
>>>signatures as currently impleme
>> be to at least fall back to the shell with a comprehensive error message.
>
>That would be better, though not much better. You'll need either local
>access or a remote serial console either to use the shell or to select a
>fallback entry at the GRUB menu.
A segfault
so that
>each maintenance team gets to share in the fun! It's like a giant hazing
>ritual. :)
Please do the same for the default MTA.
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or a third time I don't know whether this package may be
useful for someone who will likely never align genome scales (assuming
this has something to do with microbiology).
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s service to our users is IMO one of the tasks of a maintainer.
>Needless to say, I'm not amused by the "report this upstream" response. But
>the fact that I get it shows that this point of view is not shared by everyone.
Agreed.
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>On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 09:14:50AM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
>> >I don't think this is very clear from the guidelines, and I have had mixed
>> >responses from maintainers when reporting upstream bugs, varying from
&g
scripts on early boot only implement the features that Lennart deemed
useful? That would be a major turn-off, adding to the fact that early
boot will become undebuggable since one will not be able any more to
dump -x'es in shell scripts to see what's going on.
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