On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:57:03 +0100, Michael Stapelberg <stapelb...@debian.org> wrote: >Wouter Verhelst <wou...@debian.org> writes: >> "consistency across multiple platforms" has been claimed as a benefit >> for allowing "gem update --system" to replace half of the ruby binary >> package, amongst other things. It wasn't a good argument then, and it >> isn't a good argument now. >I am not familiar with the Ruby situation, I only know that many Ruby >developers seem to be very angry at Debian people. Is there a summary of >the events that I could read?
In my past experience it is the usual case where and upstream and/or its community takes at as a personal offense when a user is not using the latest and greatest software version[1] and does not understand that one might be mandated to use what a third party (here: Debian) found fit to freeze for a release a year or more ago. This attitude can be found upon many upstreams communities (for example, in Open/LibreOffice and KDE), but is even harder with ruby since ruby packages seem to be so small that there are so many of them, that they have something resembling a release process for a rubygems bundle package, introducing the time lag caused by releases once for them and once for us, and that our packaging of their softwae was done in a way that ruby packages are the biggest nightmare to backport that I have ever seen[2] (gem2deb, 'nuff said). I do sincerely hope that most of those things will be history when wheezy is released. Greetings Marc [1] up to "what, you're only using what we released last week? Please upgrade to our git head and check back. [2] I think it was between woody and sarge when more and more package began to rely on a debhelper version that wasn't backportable because it used a perl language construct that was not available in the past's stable perl -- -------------------------------------- !! No courtesy copies, please !! ----- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | Beginning of Wisdom " | http://www.zugschlus.de/ Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 621 72739834 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1u0xwu-0004cg...@swivel.zugschlus.de
