Re: The future of the boot system in Debian

2009-09-07 Thread Gabor Gombas
Hi, On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 06:21:33PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Right. I did not copy the upstream. I also think that we have > invested a lot of effort in Debian in order to make Squeeze SELinux > compliant, and make it so that turning on SELinux is fairly easy. I > have asked

Re: amarok 2 in squeeze

2009-09-07 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-09-07, Andrew R Kelley wrote: > --000e0cd3b27cf19d880472f5f8d4 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Can we have amarok 1.4 as an option to use? in my opinion, amarok 2 is not > usable yet. I decided to give it a try when it replaced 1.4 in squeeze, but > it's missing many 1.4

Re: The future of the boot system in Debian

2009-09-07 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Rene Mayrhofer] > Please don't. As you correctly pointed out, the current Debian init > architecture is one of the most painful and outdated (not to say > broken) parts in the whole system. It's really time to move away > from old cruft (and I consider inittab to be cruft of little use at > this t

Re: shared library in binary-package?

2009-09-07 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 02:12:52PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Sounds like upstream should be persuaded to move the shared library > code into the daemon since there is no reason for it to be in a > library. That won't work if upstream wants to support OSes other than Linux. My memory is getting ha

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 04 septembre 2009 à 19:32 +0200, Hendrik Sattler a écrit : > It rather needs to raise the question why simple low-level tools use > something > like libglib? I’d rather raise the question why each of our simple low-level tools implement its data structures and basic routines in its

Re: The future of the boot system in Debian

2009-09-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 08:39 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen a écrit : > I guess we were a bit unclear. The point is to use it for upgrades > (ie when it exist), while not installing /etc/inittab for new > installs, thus slowly getting rid of the file while ensuring the > switch do not affect up

Re: For the grub maintainers II

2009-09-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 10:55:42PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > Philipp Kern wrote: > > Do you have os-prober installed? > > I would not recommend having os-prober installed for this. os-prober has > always been intended to be run only _once_, mostly when a new system is > installed. It exists as a

Re: For the grub maintainers II

2009-09-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 11:03:10PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > On Saturday 05 September 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > > It has never been intended to be used as part of an update-grub script > > and to be run every time the bootloader configuration is updated > > because a new/updated kernel was installed

Re: For the grub maintainers II

2009-09-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 08:32:02PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 03:03:40PM +0200, Felix Zielcke wrote: > > Note that we only Suggests: os-prober and not Recommend: it like Ubuntu > > does because of 491872 > > So if anyone want to help that we Recommend it again, then help t

Re: Of the use of native packages for programs not specific to Debian.

2009-09-07 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: I also would rather have a native package in Debian and then have Debian derivatives convert the package using Debians tar.gz as orig.tar.gz and put their derivate specific changes into diff.gz. Shipping a source with 0 byte diff.gz in Debian seems stupid and shippin

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Bjørn Mork
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le vendredi 04 septembre 2009 à 19:32 +0200, Hendrik Sattler a écrit : >> It rather needs to raise the question why simple low-level tools use >> something >> like libglib? > > I’d rather raise the question why each of our simple low-level tools > implement its data s

Re: For the grub maintainers II

2009-09-07 Thread Frans Pop
Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 10:55:42PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: >> I would not recommend having os-prober installed for this. > > We should make it more efficient and less intrusive, but that's > perfectly feasible in os-prober itself and would be a good idea anyway. My main poin

Re: udev and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 05:15:19 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > From what I can see in /lib/udev/rules.d, the ids files are only used to setup > the (udev) environment variable ID_VENDOR_FROM_DATABASE > (75-net-description.rules, 75-tty-description.rules, 78-sound-card.rules). > > There are no sym

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 11:48 +0200, Bjørn Mork a écrit : > You're not seriously suggesting that DeviceKit-disks usage of g_print > instead of printf is actually adding anything useful? Yeah sure, just look at g_print and not at the other symbols used by devkit-disks-part-id : g_free g_slist

Re: For the grub maintainers II

2009-09-07 Thread Vincent Danjean
Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 03:03:40PM +0200, Felix Zielcke wrote: > >> Robert filed already after the upload of grub-legacy a RC bug so it >> doestn't migrate after the usual 10 days to testing. >> >> Note that we only Suggests: os-prober and not Recommend: it like Ubuntu >> doe

Re: For the grub maintainers II

2009-09-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 09:53:30AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 08:32:02PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 03:03:40PM +0200, Felix Zielcke wrote: > > > Note that we only Suggests: os-prober and not Recommend: it like Ubuntu > > > does because of 491872

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Josselin Mouette [090907 12:37]: > Are you suggesting that such an utility should implement its own linked > list structure, and unicode translation functions? Are you aware of the > security implications of using snprintf instead of g_strdup_printf? For the record: Noone sane would replace g_s

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Zitat von Josselin Mouette : Le vendredi 04 septembre 2009 à 19:32 +0200, Hendrik Sattler a écrit : It rather needs to raise the question why simple low-level tools use something like libglib? I’d rather raise the question why each of our simple low-level tools implement its data structure

Re: library-related policy question

2009-09-07 Thread Reinhard Tartler
"Nikita V. Youshchenko" writes: > As of today, debian does not contain this bug, because ffmpeg with this > brakage happened not to be uploaded yet to debian. However, once it is, > the bug will be in debian, and will have to be handled somehow. mplayer is really meant to be using the internal

Re: library-related policy question

2009-09-07 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Steve Langasek writes: >> We have done this in the past in Debian without changing the SONAME in >> places where compatibility of SONAME with other distributions is >> important. Specifically, libkrb53 removed several private symbols and we >> didn't change the SONAME. *However*, if you're thi

Re: Of the use of native packages for programs not specific to Debian.

2009-09-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:22:30AM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > We have a lot of troubles when upstreams ship a debian/ directory > in upstream tarball, thus I'll expect derivatives will have similar > problems I don't see it that way. The reason why we have 'a lot of troubles' when upstr

Re: For the grub maintainers II

2009-09-07 Thread Felix Zielcke
Am Montag, den 07.09.2009, 13:30 +0200 schrieb Vincent Danjean: > Gabor Gombas wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 03:03:40PM +0200, Felix Zielcke wrote: > > > >> Robert filed already after the upload of grub-legacy a RC bug so it > >> doestn't migrate after the usual 10 days to testing. > >> > >>

Re: shared library in binary-package?

2009-09-07 Thread Stéphane Glondu
Gabor Gombas a écrit : > That won't work if upstream wants to support OSes other than Linux. My > memory is getting hazy but I had to use the same technique in the past > because not all OSes are capable of letting plugins resolve symbols from > the main binary, at least not without extra complicat

Re: shared library in binary-package?

2009-09-07 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 03:19:19PM +0200, Stéphane Glondu wrote: > Do you have an example of such OS that is likely to be supported by > freesmartphone.org ? I know nothing about freesmartphone.org so I have no idea what they want to support. Gabor -- -

Bug#545480: ITP: libnet-epp-perl -- EPP XML frame system built on top of XML::LibXML

2009-09-07 Thread Peter Pentchev
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Peter Pentchev * Package name: libnet-epp-perl Version : 0.12 Upstream Author : CentralNic Ltd - http://www.centralnic.com/ * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Net-EPP/ * License : Perl Programming Lang: Perl Descript

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Bjørn Mork
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 11:48 +0200, Bjørn Mork a écrit : >> You're not seriously suggesting that DeviceKit-disks usage of g_print >> instead of printf is actually adding anything useful? > > Yeah sure, just look at g_print and not at the other symbols used by > de

Re: [DSE-Dev] The future of the boot system in Debian

2009-09-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Sep 07 2009, Gabor Gombas wrote: > Hi, > > On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 06:21:33PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> Right. I did not copy the upstream. I also think that we have >> invested a lot of effort in Debian in order to make Squeeze SELinux >> compliant, and make it so that

Bug#545489: ITP: mon-client -- modules for interfacing with the mon package

2009-09-07 Thread Dario Minnucci (midget)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Dario Minnucci (midget)" -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: mon-client Version : 1.2.0 Upstream Author : Jim Trocki * URL : http://mon.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Download * License : GPL-2+

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 13:40 +0200, Bernhard R. Link a écrit : > For the record: Noone sane would replace g_strdup_printf with snprintf, > but with asprintf. Case 1: char *foo; if (asprintf(&foo, "%s equals %i", somestring, someint) < 0) { fprintf(stderr, "Fa

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 15:51 +0200, Bjørn Mork a écrit : > I'm suggesting that the utility uses lots of "g_" prefixed functions > while it's obvious that the author never ever evaluated the need for > these. I assume that's because the author is used to them always being > available. > > W

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Zitat von Josselin Mouette : Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 15:51 +0200, Bjørn Mork a écrit : I'm suggesting that the utility uses lots of "g_" prefixed functions while it's obvious that the author never ever evaluated the need for these. I assume that's because the author is used to them always

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 16:56 +0200, Hendrik Sattler a écrit : > So no trying to convince glib upstream to reduce wrapper bloat? *sigh* What you are calling wrapper bloat is critical for portability of many applications, since it behaves the same on all systems where Glib has been ported. Ju

Re: udev and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Michael Biebl
Julien Cristau wrote: > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 05:15:19 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > >> From what I can see in /lib/udev/rules.d, the ids files are only used to >> setup >> the (udev) environment variable ID_VENDOR_FROM_DATABASE >> (75-net-description.rules, 75-tty-description.rules, 78-sound-c

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 05:15:44PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 16:56 +0200, Hendrik Sattler a écrit : > > So no trying to convince glib upstream to reduce wrapper bloat? *sigh* > > What you are calling wrapper bloat is critical for portability of many > applicati

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 17:32 +0200, Mike Hommey a écrit : > Nobody has advised to strip them down from the library. Just to stop > using glib in a small udev binary that only uses glib wrappers. And I still believe this advice is wrong. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette : :' : `. `' “I re

Bug#545502: ITP: srcml -- srcML: A document-oriented XML representation of source code

2009-09-07 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mathieu Malaterre * Package name: srcml Version : 20061109 Upstream Author : Dr. Michael Collard, Jonathan Maletic * URL : http://www.sdml.info/projects/srcml/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description :

Re: udev and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 17:29 +0200, Michael Biebl a écrit : > > So, again, why can't the programs that want to display this do the > > lookup themselves? Both libpciaccess and libpci provide API for this as > > far as I can tell. > > I am sure, they could. My guess is, it was added to udev

State of developers-reference

2009-09-07 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, I'm quite concerned about the state of developers-reference. - I've basically been the only active maintainer for over a year. - There are many open bugs, about things that should really be fixed or added in dev-ref, but I don't have time to address them (I'm doing "please provide a patc

Moving init script from one package to another

2009-09-07 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
As part of the shorewall package reorganization, the /etc/init.d/shorewall init script (and the symlinks to it) has moved from the shorewall-common package to the shorewall package. However, after the upgrade of shorewall-common (which has become a dummy package), and the installation of the new s

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-07 Thread Samuel Thibault
Lucas Nussbaum, le Mon 07 Sep 2009 18:28:11 +0200, a écrit : > We could simply decide that it's deprecated, and use a set of wiki > pages to document our procedures. I would like to raise the fact that Internet is not available everywhere, so at least an easy way to get an offline copy of these wo

Re: Moving init script from one package to another

2009-09-07 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 07, "Roberto C. Sánchez" wrote: > As part of the shorewall package reorganization, the > /etc/init.d/shorewall init script (and the symlinks to it) has moved > from the shorewall-common package to the shorewall package. However, > after the upgrade of shorewall-common (which has become a

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:36:53PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 13:40 +0200, Bernhard R. Link a écrit : > > For the record: Noone sane would replace g_strdup_printf with snprintf, > > but with asprintf. > Case 1: > char *foo; > if (asprintf(&foo, "

Re: udev and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 05:15:19 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > From what I can see in /lib/udev/rules.d, the ids files are only used to > > setup > > the (udev) environment variable ID_VENDOR_FROM_DATABASE > > (75-net-description.rules, 75-tty-descrip

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Steve Langasek wrote: On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:36:53PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 13:40 +0200, Bernhard R. Link a écrit : For the record: Noone sane would replace g_strdup_printf with snprintf, but with asprintf. Case 1: char *foo; if (aspri

Re: udev and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Michael Biebl
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 07 Sep 2009, Julien Cristau wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 05:15:19 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >>> From what I can see in /lib/udev/rules.d, the ids files are only used to >>> setup >>> the (udev) environment variable ID_VENDOR_FROM_DATABASE >>> (75

Re: udev and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 02:59:44PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 07 Sep 2009, Julien Cristau wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 05:15:19 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > From what I can see in /lib/udev/rules.d, the ids files are only used to > > > setup > > > the (udev) env

Re: udev and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 02:59:44PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Mon, 07 Sep 2009, Julien Cristau wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 05:15:19 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > > From what I can see in /lib/udev/rules.d, the ids files

Re: udev and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 14:59:44 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > khazad-dum:~$ lsusb ; ls -l /dev/serial/by-id/* > Bus 004 Device 003: ID 12d1:1003 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E220 HSDPA > Modem / E270 HSDPA/HSUPA Modem > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2009-09-07 14:56 > /dev/serial/by-id

Re: udev and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 02:59:44PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Mon, 07 Sep 2009, Julien Cristau wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 05:15:19 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > > From what I can see in /lib/udev/rules.d, the ids files

Re: udev and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
Hi Julien! On Mon, 07 Sep 2009, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 14:59:44 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > khazad-dum:~$ lsusb ; ls -l /dev/serial/by-id/* > > Bus 004 Device 003: ID 12d1:1003 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E220 HSDPA > > Modem / E270 HSDPA/HSUPA Mode

Re: The future of the boot system in Debian

2009-09-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 08:39 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen a écrit : > > I guess we were a bit unclear. The point is to use it for upgrades > > (ie when it exist), while not installing /etc/inittab for new > > installs, thus slowly getting rid of

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-07 Thread David Paleino
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:40:44 +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Lucas Nussbaum, le Mon 07 Sep 2009 18:28:11 +0200, a écrit : > > We could simply decide that it's deprecated, and use a set of wiki > > pages to document our procedures. > > I would like to raise the fact that Internet is not available >

Re: The future of the boot system in Debian

2009-09-07 Thread Florian Kriener
On Monday 07 September 2009 20:27:24 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 07 Sep 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le lundi 07 septembre 2009 à 08:39 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen a écrit : > > > I guess we were a bit unclear. The point is to use it for > > > upgrades (ie when it exist), whi

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 06:28:11PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > First, we need to decide whether we want to continue to maintain > developers-reference. We could simply decide that it's deprecated, and > use a set of wiki pages to document our procedures. I see some value to > a (mostly) self-co

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 08:57:54PM +0200, David Paleino wrote: > > Lucas Nussbaum, le Mon 07 Sep 2009 18:28:11 +0200, a écrit : > > > We could simply decide that it's deprecated, and use a set of wiki > > > pages to document our procedures. > > > > I would like to raise the fact that Internet is n

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 03:51:54PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: > Do you really need the g_utf16_to_utf8 unicode translation? You could > just as well let udev export the raw utf16 value and leave the > conversion up to the users. They may want something different than utf8 > anyway. man 3 iconv --

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek writes: > I think the devref discussions (incl. bug traffic) need to be moved onto > debian-policy. We already have any number of bugs getting redirected > from policy to the devref, so it's not as though there would be a > massive traffic increase; and it would put the right set

Re: DeviceKit and /usr

2009-09-07 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 04:36:53PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Case 1: > char *foo; > if (asprintf(&foo, "%s equals %i", somestring, someint) < 0) { > fprintf(stderr, "Failed to allocate memory"); > abort(); > } > > Case 2: > ch

Re: RFC: update-inetd migration to dpkp-triggers

2009-09-07 Thread Serafeim Zanikolas
tag 8927 + wontfix thanks On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 11:30:25PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote [edited]: > On Sep 04, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote: > > * abolish /etc/inetd.conf and /etc/xinetd.d/ and instead auto-generate > This is unacceptable, and I say this as the openbsd-inetd maintainer > (which is ano

Re: RFC round 5: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 05 Sep 2009, Guido Günther wrote: > I tried to point that out in June: > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/06/msg00551.html > but failed. It'd be really helpful if DEP-3 would be compatible with the > git format-patch output. Would it be helpful to say that From: can be an alias f

Re: RFC: update-inetd migration to dpkp-triggers

2009-09-07 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 11:30:25PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 04, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote: > > > As the new vict^Wmaintainer of update-inetd, I'd appreciate a review of the > > proposal below to migrate it to dpkg triggers [0] > Maybe you could have discussed it with the former maintain

Re: RFC round 5: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-07 Thread Adrian Perez
+1 for SCM compatibility. Since version control is a best practice for packaging IMHO, I think we should be able to apply those processes cleanly enough to let us continue with them. When we import patches from upstream, I think most adhere to some kind of format, what is standard is where the pa

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > - There are many open bugs, about things that should really be fixed or > added in dev-ref, but I don't have time to address them (I'm doing > "please provide a patch and I'll integrate it"-maintainance). As a co-maintainer, I must recognize that I

Bug#545532: ITP: ocamlviz -- Ocamlviz gives the ability to instrument an existing code, in real time, with lightweight monitoring annotations

2009-09-07 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mehdi Dogguy * Package name: ocamlviz Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Julien ROBERT, Guillaume VON TOKARSKI, FILLIATRE Jean-Christophe, CONCHON Sylvain and LE FESSANT Fabrice * URL : http://ocamlviz.lri.fr/ * License : L

Re: RFC: update-inetd migration to dpkp-triggers

2009-09-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 09:40:51PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > It's not just about supporting xinetd, as I hope the initial post > made clear. It's using the xinetd syntax certainly (why reinvent > the wheel when you can reuse the format as the superset used by all > existing inetds?), but the pri

Re: RFC: update-inetd migration to dpkp-triggers

2009-09-07 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 10:02:21PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 09:54:19PM +0200, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote: > > As the new vict^Wmaintainer of update-inetd, I'd appreciate a review of the > > proposal below to migrate it to dpkg triggers [0] > > > * update-inetd will drop

Re: RFC: update-inetd migration to dpkp-triggers

2009-09-07 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 22:02:21 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 09:54:19PM +0200, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote: > > * document that local policy will live in /etc/inetd.conf.d/ and any manual > > changes will be made effective by running update-inetd > > I think this violate

Re: RFC round 5: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-07 Thread Stéphane Glondu
Julien Cristau a écrit : > FWIW, I'm not going to use something that I can't produce with git > format-patch and feed to git send-email / git am since that feels like > busy work; in particular the Author and Description fields are not > needed given there's From and Subject with the same informati

Re: Patch Tagging Guidelines (aka DEP3)

2009-09-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 07 Sep 2009, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > after several rounds of discussion on -devel, we now have a > new standard defining meta-information to integrate on patches that we > distribute/apply in our packages: > http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/ s/standard/standard proposal/ of course, if that

Re: RFC: update-inetd migration to dpkp-triggers

2009-09-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:19:02PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 09:54:19PM +0200, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote: > > > * document that local policy will live in /etc/inetd.conf.d/ and any > > > manual > > > changes will be made effective by running update-inetd > > I thin

Re: Patch Tagging Guidelines (aka DEP3)

2009-09-07 Thread maximilian attems
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:03:37PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > after several rounds of discussion on -devel, we now have a > new standard defining meta-information to integrate on patches that we > distribute/apply in our packages: > http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/ at a quick look this aga

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 10:45:55PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Mon, 07 Sep 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > > I think the devref discussions (incl. bug traffic) need to be moved onto > > debian-policy. We already have any number of bugs getting redirected from > > policy to the devref, so it's

Re: RFC: update-inetd migration to dpkp-triggers

2009-09-07 Thread Serafeim Zanikolas
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 01:59:48PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote [edited]: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 09:40:51PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > but the primary benefits are making inetd support in maintainer scripts > > both robust and idempotent. > > update-inetd in its present form can already be us

Re: Patch Tagging Guidelines (aka DEP3)

2009-09-07 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:03:37PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello, > > after several rounds of discussion on -devel, we now have a > new standard defining meta-information to integrate on patches that we > distribute/apply in our packages: > http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/ Sorry I haven't

Re: RFC round 5: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-07 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 10:30:14PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sat, 05 Sep 2009, Guido Günther wrote: > > I tried to point that out in June: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/06/msg00551.html > > but failed. It'd be really helpful if DEP-3 would be compatible with the > > git fo

Re: RFC: update-inetd migration to dpkp-triggers

2009-09-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:13:45AM +0200, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 01:59:48PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote [edited]: > > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 09:40:51PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > > > but the primary benefits are making inetd support in maintainer scripts > > > both ro

Re: RFC round 5: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Sep 07 2009, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 10:30:14PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> git format-patch alone will stil not be enough to generate a DEP3-compliant >> header but would that resolve your concerns? > > It will be compatible if you relax the use of headers t

Re: shared library in binary-package?

2009-09-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 08:48:50PM +0200, Heiko Stübner wrote: > as I was unsuccessful in finding similiar cases on the mailing lists I would > like some input on the handling of corner-case in packaging. > The package is fso-usaged from the freesmartphone.org software-stack and not > yet in de

Re: State of developers-reference

2009-09-07 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Lucas Nussbaum (lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net): > - When doing talks about something at Debconf or at another conference, > take the opportunity to review and improve the corresponding dev-ref > section. (That applies to the i18n chapter of dev-ref, which is > apparently badly outdated).