Re: C++ symbols files (Re: GCC 10 transition)

2020-07-29 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 12:41:42PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: >... > Suggested ways to solve these issues: > > - Use plain shlibs files, without using symbols files, although >debhelper wrongly warns about missing symbols files. Usually this is the better option for C++ libraries, for more

Re: C++ testing library

2014-02-21 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Thu, 20 Feb 2014, Jan Gloser wrote: > Earlier this week I wanted to find a C++ testing library. I tried gtest and > cppunit but both of them seemed way too much overkill for my needs. You can try cpputest too. You might find it better for your needs. At least I never had any feeling of blo

Re: C++ testing library

2014-02-20 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 06:12:28PM +0100, Jan Gloser wrote: > Earlier this week I wanted to find a C++ testing library. I tried gtest and > cppunit but both of them seemed way too much overkill for my needs. They might be overkill for your current needs, but what about future needs? As you add mo

Re: C++ testing library

2014-02-20 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 20/02/2014 18:12, Jan Gloser a écrit : > Hello people, > > Earlier this week I wanted to find a C++ testing library. I tried gtest > and cppunit but both of them seemed way too much overkill for my needs. > So I wrote this: > > https://github.com/renra/prehash_challenge_phasor_cpp/blob/master/

Re: C++ testing library

2014-02-20 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Jan Gloser wrote: > Hello people, > > Earlier this week I wanted to find a C++ testing library. I tried gtest and > cppunit but both of them seemed way too much overkill for my needs. So I > wrote this: > > https://github.com/renra/prehash_challenge_phasor_cpp/blob

Re: C++11

2013-08-06 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 6 August 2013 14:41, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: > Hello, > > I am the maintainer of Wt [1], a C++ web development library (think of Qt or > Gtk+ for the web) and web server. > > My upstream [2] sent me a mail asking about mixing C++03 and C++11. My > understanding is it is not possible for a va

Re: C++ symbol mangling difference between arches

2009-06-27 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 09:23:29AM +0300, Modestas Vainius wrote: > While it is a good idea worth consideration but I think demangled symbol > names are somewhat too ambiguous to be used in general. See below: [Examples] Not a problem IMO -- we need a new package name anyway if gcc's ABI ch

Re: C++ symbol mangling difference between arches

2009-06-26 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On 2009 m. June 26 d., Friday 23:01:54 Florian Weimer wrote: > * Modestas Vainius: > > While apparently, VT can't be implemented differently (except \d+), > > what about size_t etc. then? They all can be implemented as regexps > > too the most simple being 'any character'. However, in my op

Re: C++ symbol mangling difference between arches

2009-06-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Modestas Vainius: > While apparently, VT can't be implemented differently (except \d+), > what about size_t etc. then? They all can be implemented as regexps > too the most simple being 'any character'. However, in my opinion, > exact string matching is worthwhile to keep whenever possible. Can

Re: C++ symbol mangling difference between arches

2009-06-26 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On 2009 m. June 26 d., Friday 19:43:13 Ben Hutchings wrote: > > Would it be possible to implement expansion to a regexp instead of to a > string that must exactly match? I think yes if there is no other way (and according to your answers, there really isn't). Symbol files have two usage s

Re: C++ symbol mangling difference between arches

2009-06-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 04:34:00PM +0300, Modestas Vainius wrote: [...] > 2b) Still 2a is not enough if the base class contains such data members like > (s)size_t (on s390) or qreal (on armel). To support such cases, vt can only > be > a complex expression with recursive subst expansion like >

Re: C++ symbol mangling difference between arches

2009-06-26 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On 2009 m. June 26 d., Friday 02:02:48 Ben Hutchings wrote: > > - it's probably impossible to have substitutions to cover all cases > > for C++ symbol mangling... do you believe that it is possible > > to have enough (stable) substitutions to cover most common cases? > > > > (in the

Re: C++ symbol mangling difference between arches

2009-06-25 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 22:52 +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2009-06-25, Raphael Hertzog wrote: [...] > > You can check the patch here: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=5;filename=0001-Implementation-of-the-subst-tag.patch;att=1;bug=533916 > > > > The symbol name in symbols file

Re: C++ symbol mangling difference between arches

2009-06-25 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 22:40 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello, > > it is well known that C++ symbol mangling result in different symbol > names from one architecture to the other. It means that libraries that > want to provide symbol files have to maintain one symbol file for each > architectu

Re: C++ symbol mangling difference between arches

2009-06-25 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-06-25, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > it is well known that C++ symbol mangling result in different symbol > names from one architecture to the other. It means that libraries that > want to provide symbol files have to maintain one symbol file for each > architecture. To avoid this problem Mode

Re: C++/STL linking trouble

2008-01-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 17:30 -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > I think I found the problem. I pre-processed two files in question, > TDF_Attribute.cxx in OpenCASCADE and testDS.cxx in Salomé. I put both > outputs in http://lyre.mit.edu/~powell/salome/ > > In the former, /usr/include/stlport/stl/_

Re: C++/STL linking trouble

2008-01-09 Thread Adam C Powell IV
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 10:09 -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 15:37 +0100, Thomas Girard wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 07:07:30AM -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > > I'm having trouble with a new C++ package called Salomé which I can't > > > get to link to a C++ library i

Re: C++/STL linking trouble

2008-01-09 Thread Adam C Powell IV
On Wed, 2008-01-09 at 15:37 +0100, Thomas Girard wrote: > On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 07:07:30AM -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > > Greetings, > > Hello Adam, > > > I'm having trouble with a new C++ package called Salomé which I can't > > get to link to a C++ library in a new package OpenCASCADE. > >

Re: C++/STL linking trouble

2008-01-09 Thread Thomas Girard
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 07:07:30AM -0500, Adam C Powell IV wrote: > Greetings, Hello Adam, > I'm having trouble with a new C++ package called Salomé which I can't > get to link to a C++ library in a new package OpenCASCADE. > > Here's the error: [...] > Using nm -C I found that the library lib

Re: C compiler

2005-09-13 Thread Nico Golde
Hello Shawn, * Shawn (Shu Xiang) Yu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-13 14:40]: > Sorry. Could you let me know where I can get help for Debian user? Take a look at http://lists.debian.org/users.html and choose the user list in your preferred language. Regards Nico -- Nico Golde - JAB: [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: C compiler

2005-09-13 Thread Shawn (Shu Xiang) Yu
Sorry. Could you let me know where I can get help for Debian user? Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:32 AM Subject: Re: C compiler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

Re: C compiler

2005-09-13 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:26:40AM -0400, Shawn (Shu Xiang) Yu wrote: > Hello, > Hi, Please don't hijack threads. Start a new thread by sending a new message. > I am new here. I just installed Debian on my system. When I try to compile a > c code with gcc, I got error says "undefined reference

Re: C compiler

2005-09-13 Thread Andrew Porter
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 08:26 -0400, Shawn (Shu Xiang) Yu wrote: Hello, I am new here. I just installed Debian on my system. When I try to compile a c code with gcc, I got error says "undefined reference to 'sin'". This is the same code run on Windows. Anyone know how to fix it. From "man

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-15 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 01:22:19PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 15 juin 2005 à 02:48 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > > > Furthermore, this package has a long history of triggering weird > > > compiler errors, including several ICEs. Is there a way to test the > > > build with g++-

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 15 juin 2005 à 02:48 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > > Furthermore, this package has a long history of triggering weird > > compiler errors, including several ICEs. Is there a way to test the > > build with g++-4.0 on all architectures before the transition starts? > > (Other than ask

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 01:17:59AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 14 juin 2005 à 14:48 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > > > I maintain a package (hdf5) which contains a pure C library and a C++ > > > interface. However, I'm pretty sure the C++ library isn't used by > > > packages depend

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-14 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 14 juin 2005 à 14:48 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : > > I maintain a package (hdf5) which contains a pure C library and a C++ > > interface. However, I'm pretty sure the C++ library isn't used by > > packages depending on it. In this case, is it necessary for the library > > to be renamed

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Jun 14, 2005 at 09:34:31PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 09 juin 2005 à 02:13 +0200, Matthias Klose a écrit : > > For etch we will update the toolchain (glibc, binutils, > > linux-kernel-headers, gcc) again. Some updates look easy, other will > > have a bigger impact on package

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-14 Thread Florian Weimer
* Josselin Mouette: > I maintain a package (hdf5) which contains a pure C library and a C++ > interface. However, I'm pretty sure the C++ library isn't used by > packages depending on it. In this case, is it necessary for the library > to be renamed? Is it reasonable to expect that users compile

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packa ges

2005-06-14 Thread Humberto Massa Guimarães
> I maintain a package (hdf5) which contains a pure C library and a C++ > interface. However, I'm pretty sure the C++ library isn't used by > packages depending on it. In this case, is it necessary for > the library to be renamed? What about third-party software that is not part of Debian and dep

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-14 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 09 juin 2005 à 02:13 +0200, Matthias Klose a écrit : > For etch we will update the toolchain (glibc, binutils, > linux-kernel-headers, gcc) again. Some updates look easy, other will > have a bigger impact on packages. One aspect of the toolchain update > is the change of the C++ ABI from

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-10 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 03:31:06PM +0100, Will Newton wrote: > On Friday 10 June 2005 15:27, Colin Watson wrote: > > Yes, for the moment getting that into testing requires release-team > > approval (which is unlikely to be withheld - it's just so that the udeb > > can be synced at the same time). >

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-10 Thread Will Newton
On Friday 10 June 2005 15:27, Colin Watson wrote: > > I'm in the process of adopting a package (freetype2) that builds a udeb. > > Would updating this package now require manual intervention from the > > release team? > > Yes, for the moment getting that into testing requires release-team > approv

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-10 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 12:24:05PM +0100, Will Newton wrote: > On Friday 10 June 2005 05:59, Steve Langasek wrote: > > We're leaning towards possibly keeping udeb-generating packages frozen > > during etch still because they require manual intervention for syncing > > udebs into testing; this means

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-10 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Matthias Klose] > As Steve did explain, the first class is a non-issue. Because you > brought up the topic, I was asking you for a real-world example of > your so defined second set. I am trying to figure out if there might exist a problem with this approach, as I am trained to predict and fix p

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-10 Thread Will Newton
On Friday 10 June 2005 05:59, Steve Langasek wrote: > We're leaning towards possibly keeping udeb-generating packages frozen > during etch still because they require manual intervention for syncing > udebs into testing; this means separating the source packages that create > udebs (which as a clas

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 09:04:20PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: > Santiago Vila wrote: > >On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Adam Majer wrote: > >>Also, the testing seems to be now unfrozen except for base. Does the > >>base freeze have anything to do with the new C++ ABI? > >No, it's more a leftover of the freeze

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-09 Thread Adam Majer
Santiago Vila wrote: >On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Adam Majer wrote: > > > >>Also, the testing seems to be now unfrozen except for base. Does the >>base freeze have anything to do with the new C++ ABI? >> >> > >No, it's more a leftover of the freeze process. I asked Steve today >about this. He says b

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-09 Thread Adam Majer
Bill Allombert wrote: >On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 01:25:28PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > >>The time frame of the C++ ABI changed is not yet fixed. We will >>certainly need some time to get the toolchain in shape to start the >>transition. In the meantime you can check the new compilers in >>

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-09 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Adam Majer wrote: > Also, the testing seems to be now unfrozen except for base. Does the > base freeze have anything to do with the new C++ ABI? No, it's more a leftover of the freeze process. I asked Steve today about this. He says base packages will be unfrozen again in a fe

Re: C++ ABI change -- freezing unstable for new C++ library packages

2005-06-09 Thread Adam Majer
Matthias Klose wrote: > We will send an update with a detailed schedule, when the toolchain is > ready for the change. I'm sorry but I'm a little bit confused. Is unstable frozen *now*? If yes, is the toolchain being updated now? I'm assuming the change mostly involve moving gcc-defaults to poi

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-07 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
> The problem is that the decisions are always taken for the Ubuntu > distribution first. Then, people from Canonical or people wanting to > keep compatibility between the two distributions will always want Debian > to follow the decisions taken for Ubuntu, regardless of their technical > merit an

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-06 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi! Josselin Mouette [2005-06-05 18:50 +0200]: > The problem is that the decisions are always taken for the Ubuntu > distribution first. I can't remember any situation where somebody said "Don't do this in Debian yet, Ubuntu wants it first". I don't see any world/Debian domination plan here. Jus

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread David Nusinow
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 02:35:10PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > David Nusinow writes: > > No. There are a number of people who are in charge of important technical > > decisions who have no more association with Canonical than you or I > > do. I'm sure if you stop ranting for a moment and think abou

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 06:01:33PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le dimanche 05 juin 2005 à 17:57 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit : > > The plan outlined in > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/04/msg00153.html is what > > Ubuntu is already doing. Note that some of the people involved

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread John Hasler
David Nusinow writes: > No. There are a number of people who are in charge of important technical > decisions who have no more association with Canonical than you or I > do. I'm sure if you stop ranting for a moment and think about it you can > name some of them yourself. You are assuming that eve

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 05 juin 2005 à 22:55 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > > And you're the one to tell I'm spreading FUD? > > Where did I say "FUD"? Sorry, that was Tollef. > > Real improvement comes from actual work on packages, not from discussion > > here. The only cases where improvement can't be

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 10:37:08PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le dimanche 05 juin 2005 à 20:40 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > > On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 06:50:57PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > The problem is that the decisions are always taken for the Ubuntu > > > distribution firs

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 05 juin 2005 à 20:40 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 06:50:57PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > The problem is that the decisions are always taken for the Ubuntu > > distribution first. > > There's two reasons why this could be happening: > > * There's a

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> Le dimanche 05 juin 2005 ? 13:25 +0200, Matthias Klose a ?crit : >> For etch we will update the toolchain (glibc, binutils, >> linux-kernel-headers, gcc) again. Some updates look easy, other will >> have a bigger impact on packages. One aspect of the toolchain update >> is the change of the C

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 06:50:57PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > The problem is that the decisions are always taken for the Ubuntu > distribution first. There's two reasons why this could be happening: * There's a master plan over at Canonical to try and take over Debian. * For every step some

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 05:12:46PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > Adrian Bunk writes: > > On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 01:25:28PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > >... > > > - freeze unstable for uploads of library packages with new ABI > > > versions. If a new soname is introduced now, it has to be

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Ante Karamatić
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 17:36 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > How is it going to affect the compatibility between Debian and Ubuntu? > As I understand it, Ubuntu has started to move to G++ 4.0 without any > synchronisation with the Debian toolchain maintainers. Huh?! If I'm not mistaken, couple o

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 05 juin 2005 à 18:34 +0200, Daniel Holbach a écrit : > Hello Josselin, > > Am Sonntag, den 05.06.2005, 18:01 +0200 schrieb Josselin Mouette: > > Oh, great. I forgot that Canonical's business model is to use Ubuntu as > > an upstaging area for Debian, so that we're always lagging behind

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread David Nusinow
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 06:32:10PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Are, as of today, Canonical and its employees the sole people > responsible for important technical and political decisions within the > project? 1) No. There are a number of people who are in charge of important technical decisio

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Matthias Klose
Adrian Bunk writes: > On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 01:25:28PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > >... > > - freeze unstable for uploads of library packages with new ABI > > versions. If a new soname is introduced now, it has to be changed a > > few weeks later again. Packages depending on these librar

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Josselin Mouette | Oh, great. I forgot that Canonical's business model is to use Ubuntu as | an upstaging area for Debian, so that we're always lagging behind. Uhm, so you think Debian should have done the gcc 4.0 transition while in the final stages of a freeze? Do you think Ubuntu would hav

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Matthias Klose
Petter Reinholdtsen writes: > [Matthias Klose] > > Pere, could you point of one of these packages? > > Which one? One of the packages changing name from libfoo to > libfooc102 and then if this proposal goes through back to libfoo? Or > one of the packages outside of debian installed on some mach

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Daniel Holbach
Hello Josselin, Am Sonntag, den 05.06.2005, 18:01 +0200 schrieb Josselin Mouette: > Oh, great. I forgot that Canonical's business model is to use Ubuntu as > an upstaging area for Debian, so that we're always lagging behind. Will > the next development decisions also be taken by some Canonical sta

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 05 juin 2005 à 18:20 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > > Oh, great. I forgot that Canonical's business model is to use Ubuntu as > > an upstaging area for Debian, so that we're always lagging behind. Will > > the next development decisions also be taken by some Canonical staff? > > Ye

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 06:01:33PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le dimanche 05 juin 2005 à 17:57 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit : > > The plan outlined in > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/04/msg00153.html is what > > Ubuntu is already doing. Note that some of the people involved

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 05 juin 2005 à 17:57 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit : > The plan outlined in > http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/04/msg00153.html is what > Ubuntu is already doing. Note that some of the people involved in the > Ubuntu transition are Matthias Klose and Jeff Bailey so it would

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Josselin Mouette | How is it going to affect the compatibility between Debian and Ubuntu? Not. | As I understand it, Ubuntu has started to move to G++ 4.0 without | any synchronisation with the Debian toolchain maintainers. Uhm, no? The plan outlined in http://lists.debian.org/debian-releas

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 05 juin 2005 à 13:25 +0200, Matthias Klose a écrit : > For etch we will update the toolchain (glibc, binutils, > linux-kernel-headers, gcc) again. Some updates look easy, other will > have a bigger impact on packages. One aspect of the toolchain update > is the change of the C++ ABI f

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Matthias Klose
Steve Langasek writes: > On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 03:04:45PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > [Matthias Klose] > > > Details of the planned C++ ABI change can be found at > > > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/04/msg00153.html > > > There I find this remark: > > > Append

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 01:25:28PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: >... > - freeze unstable for uploads of library packages with new ABI > versions. If a new soname is introduced now, it has to be changed a > few weeks later again. Packages depending on these libraries > would need to be uploa

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 01:25:28PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > The time frame of the C++ ABI changed is not yet fixed. We will > certainly need some time to get the toolchain in shape to start the > transition. In the meantime you can check the new compilers in > unstable (g++-3.4) and in expe

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Matthias Klose] > Pere, could you point of one of these packages? Which one? One of the packages changing name from libfoo to libfooc102 and then if this proposal goes through back to libfoo? Or one of the packages outside of debian installed on some machine somewhere? PS: No, I haven't checke

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jun 05, 2005 at 03:04:45PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Matthias Klose] > > Details of the planned C++ ABI change can be found at > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/04/msg00153.html > There I find this remark: > Appended is an updated version, the most notabl

Re: C++ ABI change for etch -- freeze unstable for all C++ libs with changed or new sonames

2005-06-05 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Matthias Klose] > Details of the planned C++ ABI change can be found at > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2005/04/msg00153.html There I find this remark: Appended is an updated version, the most notable change is to drop the 'c102' suffix from packages, if it exists. This way, we

Re: C++ & Java IDE

2003-07-09 Thread Stuart Auchterlonie
I'd suggest having a look at anjuta http://www.anjuta.org -- "..Bad apples come from every family. One esteemed Texas family once had a highly volatile youngster who drank a lot, crashed cars and wasted his life away. He is now president of the USA.." - Andrew Sullivan, The Sunday Times, 16th

Re: C++ & Java IDE

2003-06-24 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Tollef, * Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >* Jan Schulz >| sources.list. Unfortunatelly I don't have that much webspace to do >| a woody backport myself... >deb http://mirror.raw.no/ gnome2.2/ >deb-src http://mirror.raw.no/ gnome2.2/ Was more meant to supply a eclipse backport for woody. :) My web

Re: C++ & Java IDE

2003-06-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Jan Schulz | * David Goodenough wrote: | | >KDevelop comes as part of KDE, Eclipse is only available in unstable at the | >moment (I don't think it has made it into testing yet but I may be wrong). | | Nope... On the other hand it is no problem to recompile it on woody | systems. Only thing is

Re: C++ & Java IDE

2003-06-23 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo David, * David Goodenough wrote: >> I'm mainly going to be writing C++ with a JNI layer to allow access from my >> Java code. eclipses C(++)DevTools aren't that good as the JavaDT, so I don't know if thats enough for you. For java, eclipse is great. >KDevelop comes as part of KDE, Eclipse

Re: C++ & Java IDE

2003-06-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:32:47AM -0400, code wrote: > Hi, > I'm new to the Linux world crossing over from Windows to do a work project > and was wondering if someone could recommend a good IDE for Java and C++. I'm > mainly going to be writing C++ with a JNI layer to allow access from my Java

Re: C++ & Java IDE

2003-06-23 Thread David Goodenough
On Monday 23 June 2003 16:32, code wrote: > Hi, > I'm new to the Linux world crossing over from Windows to do a work project > and was wondering if someone could recommend a good IDE for Java and C++. > I'm mainly going to be writing C++ with a JNI layer to allow access from my > Java code. > > Th

Re: C++ & Java IDE

2003-06-23 Thread Fabio Rafael da Rosa
try eclipse www.eclipse.org Em Seg, 2003-06-23 às 12:32, code escreveu: > Hi, > I'm new to the Linux world crossing over from Windows to do a work project > and was wondering if someone could recommend a good IDE for Java and C++. I'm > mainly going to be writing C++ with a JNI layer to allow ac

Re: C++ ...

2002-04-22 Thread Matt Wilson
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 05:07:56PM +0200, Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > I want to understand why the specific said: "C++ immature" ... > > http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/gLSB/gLSB/cppmapping.html The ABI (Application Binary Inteface) for C++ is still in flux. A st

RE: C++ ...

2002-04-22 Thread Wichmann, Mats D
> > I want to understand why the specific said: "C++ immature" ... > > http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/gLSB/gLSB/cppmapping.html > > Would KDE be excluded based on this immaturity ? > > Thanks, > Giovanni Any C++ app is problematic today. This went somewhat off-topic, but head

Re: C++ ...

2002-04-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Dr. Giovanni A. Orlando wrote: >I want to understand why the specific said: "C++ immature" ... > >http://www.linuxbase.org/spec/gLSB/gLSB/cppmapping.html The C++ ABI is still evolving and changing every few gcc releases. Wichert. --

Re: c++ and unrecognized -D option on ia64

2002-04-03 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 08:00:11PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: > The toolchain was fubar on an IA64 build daemon host; see > http://bugs.debian.org/140969 . Thanks for the pointer, all is ok now and indeed gtkmathview was successfully built on ia64. Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli - undergr

Re: c++ and unrecognized -D option on ia64

2002-04-03 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 18:03:14 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I'm asking here because the failure seems to be due to the "c++" > compiler that doesn't recognize the "-Dsomething" option. The toolchain was fubar on an IA64 build daemon host; see http://bugs.debian.org/140969 . HTH, Ray -- T