Re: Personal note on recent discussions (Was: Can the community team remove packages or kick me out for not removing packages?)

2025-07-18 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Salvo, Am Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 04:43:38PM +0200 schrieb Salvo Tomaselli: > Without me debian would be shipping fascist and racist quotes like it > has done for the past 22 years, yet somehow I'm the bad guy. I want to stress again — as I tried to do in private — that I don’t consider you the b

Re: Personal note on recent discussions (Was: Can the community team remove packages or kick me out for not removing packages?)

2025-07-17 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 10:18:12AM -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > >I also think that certain things he has said here, and how he has said >them (for example, in his first message, "Can people who are offended by >the existence of systemd request to drop it from debian?"), imply that h

Re: Personal note on recent discussions (Was: Can the community team remove packages or kick me out for not removing packages?)

2025-07-17 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
Hello, > You can't blame the community team for not doing something 20 years ago > because there wasn't a community team 20 years ago. The community team wasn't created last week either… > It's also unreasonable to say the only time a bug can be reported in a > program is when a new maintainer t

Re: Personal note on recent discussions

2025-07-17 Thread Stephan Seitz
Am Do, Jul 17, 2025 at 15:30:45 +0100 schrieb Jonathan Dowland: Take a break. Is this the line in the sand you want to draw? Yes, it would certainly be my line. And I would leave Debian in disgust. Stephan -- |If your life was a horse, you'd have to shoot it.|

Re: Personal note on recent discussions (Was: Can the community team remove packages or kick me out for not removing packages?)

2025-07-17 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
Hello, it seems you are assuming my bad faith. > This lack of regard for other people's carefully considered opinions I'm sorry but I strongly doubt that the person who opened the bugs and the person who reopened the bugs even bothered to read what's inside those packages. Asking for removal wi

Re: Personal note on recent discussions (Was: Can the community team remove packages or kick me out for not removing packages?)

2025-07-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I think you need to take a step back and calm down a bit really to assess the situation more clearly. You can't blame the community team for not doing something 20 years ago because there wasn't a community team 20 years ago. It's also unreasonable to say the only time a bug can be reported i

Re: Personal note on recent discussions (Was: Can the community team remove packages or kick me out for not removing packages?)

2025-07-17 Thread Jonathan Kamens
On 7/17/25 9:15 AM, Hakan Bayındır wrote: I don't believe Salvo is angry about how his package is "not wanted here" anymore, but how the process is handled in the first place. That is not at all the impression I get. Salvo seems to be upset about how the request to remove the package has been

Re: Personal note on recent discussions (Was: Can the community team remove packages or kick me out for not removing packages?)

2025-07-17 Thread Hakan Bayındır
On 7/17/25 1:18 PM, Marc Haber wrote: On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 11:47:36 +0200, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: since you agreed to it I will reply publicly. Thank you for your open words and for all the work you’ve put into this package. I understand that it’s frustrating when you feel your effort isn’t

Re: Personal note on recent discussions (Was: Can the community team remove packages or kick me out for not removing packages?)

2025-07-17 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
Oh I've embraced it, which is why I have been fixing things. I don't see how making me stop doing that job is going to make debian more welcoming, since nobody has ever complained about it, and once I stop doing it nobody will be doing it. So the consequence is -1 contributor, but is it going to

Re: Personal note on recent discussions (Was: Can the community team remove packages or kick me out for not removing packages?)

2025-07-17 Thread The Wanderer
On 2025-07-17 at 06:18, Marc Haber wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 11:47:36 +0200, Salvo Tomaselli > wrote: > >> since you agreed to it I will reply publicly. >> >>> Thank you for your open words and for all the work you’ve put >>> into this package. I understand that it’s frustrating when you >>

Re: Personal note on recent discussions (Was: Can the community team remove packages or kick me out for not removing packages?)

2025-07-17 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 17 Jul 2025 11:47:36 +0200, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: >since you agreed to it I will reply publicly. > >> Thank you for your open words and for all the work you’ve put into this >> package. I understand that it’s frustrating when you feel your effort >> isn’t fully recognized or valued. I wan

Re: Personal note on recent discussions (Was: Can the community team remove packages or kick me out for not removing packages?)

2025-07-17 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
Hello, since you agreed to it I will reply publicly. > Thank you for your open words and for all the work you’ve put into this > package. I understand that it’s frustrating when you feel your effort > isn’t fully recognized or valued. I want to reassure you: your > contributions are appreciated.