Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-11 Thread Blair Noctis
On 05/03/2025 02:45, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On Wed, 2025-03-05 at 01:32 +0800, Blair Noctis wrote: On 04/03/2025 21:43, Marc Haber wrote: On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 19:15:16 +0800, Blair Noctis wrote: [...] Honestly I never understood how exactly @p.d.o addresses work. Devref says it's "a simple emai

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-11 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Mon, 10 Mar 2025, Blair Noctis wrote: > > From your initial list, my preferred outcome is to modify > > tracker.debian.org so that all Uploaders are automatically subscribed, > > that's what has been requested for a long time in > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=756954

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-10 Thread Blair Noctis
Hi Raphael, On 10/03/2025 10:36, Raphael Hertzog wrote: (tracker.debian.org maintainer here) Thanks for maintaining the service ;) Hi, On Thu, 06 Mar 2025, Blair Noctis wrote: So if the "staff" agrees, we can make @p.d.o addresses forward also to Uploaders, thus with @p.d.o address as Main

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-10 Thread Raphael Hertzog
(tracker.debian.org maintainer here) Hi, On Thu, 06 Mar 2025, Blair Noctis wrote: > So if the "staff" agrees, > we can make @p.d.o addresses forward also to Uploaders, > thus with @p.d.o address as Maintainer, > also forwarding bug reports to Uploaders, > achieving the goal. I don't really agree

Re: Bug#397761: Bug reports for Uploaders (was: Re #397761: bugs.debian.org: please forward bug reports to Uploaders also)

2025-03-05 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 03 Mar 2025, Blair Noctis wrote:n > Dan Armstrong (don) wontfix'd it after stating that, quote: > > If the maintainer is not given as a mailing list, then the uploaders > > should all subscribe to the PTS for a given package. > > and > > > The problem is that if I start sending mails to U

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders (was: Re #397761: bugs.debian.org: please forward bug reports to Uploaders also)

2025-03-05 Thread Jeremy Bícha
On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 12:07 PM Blair Noctis wrote: > (I'm also confused by the fact that follow-ups to bug reports aren't > forwarded to submitters by default, but the submitter must X-Debbugs-Cc > themselves, but then which is basically the default behavior of reportbug(1) > now IIRC, but tha

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-04 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wed, 2025-03-05 at 01:32 +0800, Blair Noctis wrote: > On 04/03/2025 21:43, Marc Haber wrote: > > On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 19:15:16 +0800, Blair Noctis > > wrote: > > [...] > > > Honestly I never understood how exactly @p.d.o addresses work. > > > Devref says it's "a simple email alias" that "provides

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-04 Thread Blair Noctis
On 04/03/2025 21:43, Marc Haber wrote: On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 19:15:16 +0800, Blair Noctis wrote: On 03/03/2025 01:40, Marc Haber wrote: Maintainer: Debian Adduser Developers Maintainer: Debian Sudo Maintainers Honestly I never understood how exactly @p.d.o addresses work. Devref says it's "a

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-04 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 05:44:33PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: On 2025-03-04 Blair Noctis wrote: On 04/03/2025 01:29, Andreas Metzler wrote: [...] > There is another downside to the BTS sending mails to uploaders. - There > is no simple unsubscribe, it would need a sourceful upload. I wo

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Andreas Metzler (2025-03-04 17:44:33) > On 2025-03-04 Blair Noctis wrote: > > On 04/03/2025 01:29, Andreas Metzler wrote: > [...] > > > There is another downside to the BTS sending mails to uploaders. - There > > > is no simple unsubscribe, it would need a sourceful upload. > > > I wonder

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 05:44:33PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: Consider somebody being an active momeber of a larger team and leaving it. He would continue to receive the mails sent uploaders. And the only way to "unsubsribe" would be to make a (possibly huge) number of sourceful uploads. I t

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-04 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2025-03-04 Blair Noctis wrote: > On 04/03/2025 01:29, Andreas Metzler wrote: [...] > > There is another downside to the BTS sending mails to uploaders. - There > > is no simple unsubscribe, it would need a sourceful upload. > I wonder who would bother to add themself to Uploaders of a package,

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 17:33:47 +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote: >On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 07:13:50PM +0800, Blair Noctis wrote: >>>There is another downside to the BTS sending mails to uploaders. - There >>>is no simple unsubscribe, it would need a sourceful upload. >> >>I wonder who would bother to

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-04 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 19:15:16 +0800, Blair Noctis wrote: >On 03/03/2025 01:40, Marc Haber wrote: >> Maintainer: Debian Adduser Developers >> Maintainer: Debian Sudo Maintainers > >Honestly I never understood how exactly @p.d.o addresses work. >Devref says it's "a simple email alias" that "provides

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-04 Thread Andrey Rakhmatullin
On Tue, Mar 04, 2025 at 07:13:50PM +0800, Blair Noctis wrote: There is another downside to the BTS sending mails to uploaders. - There is no simple unsubscribe, it would need a sourceful upload. I wonder who would bother to add themself to Uploaders of a package, but then refuse to read bugs re

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-04 Thread Blair Noctis
On 03/03/2025 01:40, Marc Haber wrote: (...) Maintainer: Debian Adduser Developers Maintainer: Debian Sudo Maintainers Honestly I never understood how exactly @p.d.o addresses work. Devref says it's "a simple email alias" that "provides a way to email the maintainer", "whatever their individ

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-04 Thread Blair Noctis
On 04/03/2025 01:29, Andreas Metzler wrote: On 2025-03-02 Blair Noctis wrote: [...] 2. Let PTS automatically subscribe maintainers to packages they are Uploaders of In the current version of the PTS, subscribing to a package means either a. after logging in, clicking the Subscribe button on

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders (was: Re #397761: bugs.debian.org: please forward bug reports to Uploaders also)

2025-03-03 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2025-03-02 Blair Noctis wrote: [...] > 2. Let PTS automatically subscribe maintainers to packages they are Uploaders > of > In the current version of the PTS, subscribing to a package means either a. > after logging in, clicking the Subscribe button on > tracker.debian.org/pkg/foo, and opti

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-03 Thread Blair Noctis
On 03/03/2025 03:52, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: Quoting Blair Noctis (2025-03-02 18:06:49) [...] Dan Armstrong (don) wontfix'd it after stating that, quote: If the maintainer is not given as a mailing list, then the uploaders should all subscribe to the PTS for a given package. [...] I added th

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders (was: Re #397761: bugs.debian.org: please forward bug reports to Uploaders also)

2025-03-02 Thread Maytham Alsudany
On Mon, 2025-03-03 at 01:06 +0800, Blair Noctis wrote: > In the current version of the PTS, subscribing to a package means > either a. after logging in, clicking the Subscribe button on > tracker.debian.org/pkg/foo, and optionally changing topics > ("keywords"); b. with devscripts installed, runnin

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders (was: Re #397761: bugs.debian.org: please forward bug reports to Uploaders also)

2025-03-02 Thread NoisyCoil
Hi all, I am in strong favor of 1., letting BTS forward to Uploaders. I'm Uploader for a few tens of (team-maintained) packages, most of which I don't particularly care about since I only introduced them as dependencies, and I'm not going to subscribe to all of them. Still, I do feel responsi

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders (was: Re #397761: bugs.debian.org: please forward bug reports to Uploaders also)

2025-03-02 Thread Marco d'Itri
I will just note that I have been a Debian Developer for almost 30 years, and a few months after I started maintaining varnish and other related packages I am still not sure if I did everything needed to receive one and only one copy of new bug reports. So I would welcome some rationalization in

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders (was: Re #397761: bugs.debian.org: please forward bug reports to Uploaders also)

2025-03-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Blair Noctis (2025-03-02 18:06:49) [...] > Dan Armstrong (don) wontfix'd it after stating that, quote: > > > If the maintainer is not given as a mailing list, then the uploaders > > should all subscribe to the PTS for a given package. [...] > I added that a. team maintenance means hundreds

Re: Bug reports for Uploaders

2025-03-02 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, Mar 03, 2025 at 01:06:49AM +0800, Blair Noctis wrote: 3. Add the option to subscribe to a package on BTS This would at least allow people who don't/wouldn't use PTS to receive new bug reports for packages they care about. PTS is a separate service that happens to forward BTS bug report

Bug reports for Uploaders (was: Re #397761: bugs.debian.org: please forward bug reports to Uploaders also)

2025-03-02 Thread Blair Noctis
Dear -devel, Way back in 2006 (19 years ago), #397761 was submitted to request for BTS to forward bug reports also to the Uploaders. Dan Armstrong (don) wontfix'd it after stating that, quote: If the maintainer is not given as a mailing list, then the uploaders should all subscribe to the PTS