k, grep, sed and sort - that's
>dependencies on four essential packages".
I'd rather do that than having to spend hours updating year numbers in
machine readable debian/copyright.
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On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 06:32:54PM +, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
Am Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 09:44:47AM +0100 schrieb Marc Haber:
tl;dr: New Wiki Page https://wiki.debian.org/I18n/ForPackageMaintainers,
please review
I just did it. I usually updated it right away, but at one or two
points it is
nities to stop it by committing to
>actively maintain it themselves.
Also, please note that Debian is going to freeze for the next stable
release in ten days. It is unlikely that the new Dillo package will be
in that release.
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le flat since there seems to be no actual reason to not just support
>both mechanisms.
Can your package handle the classic on-disk format when it is compiled
with 64 bit time_t? I remember there was some discussion about that
back then.
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 21:26:05 +, Bill Allombert
wrote:
>Le Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 12:03:51PM +0100, Marc Haber a écrit :
>> tl;dr: We need more docs about best practices to handle translations as
>> a package maintainer
>
>I would suggest you find someone on debian-i
On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 06:33:19PM +, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
Am Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 05:49:40PM +0100 schrieb Marc Haber:
"Using no line numbers" => invoke msgmerge with --no-location?
Yes.
"Web pages mentioned above" => I don't see web pages being me
age
Maintainer, unless it is fully automated and can be documented and
packaged.
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y when invoked?
In the mean time, I have added code to adduser to unset $ENV{CDPATH}.
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ically want the
>collaboration to be done without using version control?
A NMU is something else than co-maintenance. A NMU is by defintition
minimal invasive. I think that is documented somewhere.
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On Tue, Mar 18, 2025 at 09:06:35PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
xgettext comes with a ton of options to help you. Have a look at the
diff I've attached for what I've been able to do.
Will do and take your suggestions. But it is still a wrapper needed.
I have put this into the adduser w
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tl;dr: New Wiki Page https://wiki.debian.org/I18n/ForPackageMaintainers,
please review
Hi,
On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 12:03:51PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
Whenever I am angry about something in Debian, I start writing docs. So
I try this here, but here I don't know enough to be really helpf
is a
page that I can change.
If you don't want to deal with translation stuff, I'm happy to help with
that aspect, and if you'd like you can offload that on me.
Thank you for that offer. I need to understand things to be comfortable
with tem. I think I am on a good way.
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On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 11:36:27AM +0100, Julien Plissonneau Duquène wrote:
Le 2025-03-11 12:03, Marc Haber a écrit :
(2)
There is some point in the development process when it is time to ask
for translations. Translators need a POT file which contains all the
translatable strings, and they
to remove(!) locations on
checkout and restore them from the pot file on commit, that solves the
majority of conflicts.
How would that look like? git filters are a mystery for those wizards.
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at might happen. Rest
assured that package maintainers already try to avoid situations like
that to the best of their knowledge.
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m
inclined to put on https://wiki.debian.org/I18n a dedicated chapter
titled "for package maintainers", probably between "Keyboard input
infrastructure support" and "Meetings" as this is a matter beyond
interna of the translation teams and the i18n effort. Am I
tl;dr: The situation is totally different, we should not compare apples
and peaches here.
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On Mon, 10 Mar 2025 11:56:28 +0100, Simon Josefsson
wrote:
>Marc Haber writes:
>> I still haven't heard arguments why people refuse to use an installer
>> that comes with non-free firmware, asks whether this firmware should
>> be used, and if answered "no", no
n
>within the Debian project, which is my perception of the vote outcome.
There are not concerns about spending time. There are no people
willing to do so.
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On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 08:39:13AM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 08:58:48AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
Marc. I'll take my Popcorn with salt please.
yeah, it's pretty funny to see a team burn out and have the same silly
& salty discussion about this again
ublic attention.
Greetings
Marc. I'll take my Popcorn with salt please.
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On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 10:12:05PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
On 05.03.25 21:35, Marc Haber wrote:
And which of the millions of changes would that be that would break
YOUR system?
The number of changes that can adversely impact your ability to boot
*or* your network connectivity (but
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>
>Network interface name changed: please update config files before reboot.
Why would people who do not read the NEWS.Debian or the Release Notes
read that? And how would you solve the issue of people wanting more
and more of those attention banners?
Greetings
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loads.
I think that most teams would be eager to help to remove you from
"Uploaders" in git, getting active with the next upload.
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On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 19:15:16 +0800, Blair Noctis
wrote:
>On 03/03/2025 01:40, Marc Haber wrote:
>> Maintainer: Debian Adduser Developers
>> Maintainer: Debian Sudo Maintainers
>
>Honestly I never understood how exactly @p.d.o addresses work.
>Devref says it'
sions harder.
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On Sun, 2 Mar 2025 21:14:54 +0800, Blair Noctis
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>Open source webmails also exist.
"When you're 10 out of 10 but it's your CVSS score".
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rse back when we had more than one
console-based mail reader.
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going to to do anyway. It's a pity that it is needed (and
expected, nowadays) to put such things in writing.
So, please, let's do something like "Debian mailing list etiquette"
instead.
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Nordisch by
On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 17:12:48 +, Colin Watson
wrote:
>On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 03:28:35PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>> Especially if the list just goes the (wrong) way of so many commercial
>> security tools and/or consultants who just compare version numbers and
>> flag o
the instance who compiles and compares, and on our side to
verify the suggestion.
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file and triggerring unnecessary conffile
>prompts.
Maybe our conffile handling should be modified to automatically accept
comment-only changes to dpkg-conffiles.
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y people are okay with allowing random git commits
> to Debian group but are not okay with uncoordinated uploads.
Yes, I fully agree with that.
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I surely hope that is not true. I'd have to move my packages so a
different place then.
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as config file handling that is WAY inferior to what we have since 20
years. And ours is bad in some regards already.
Please don't adopt everything that Red Hat has come up with when we
have been better than that for ages.
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On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 10:09:41 +0100, Frank Guthausen
wrote:
>Debian GNU/Systemd is only an unofficial
>subdistribution of Debian GNU/Linux.
Bullshit.
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On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 22:38:49 +0100, Matthias Urlichs
wrote:
>Marc Haber:
>
>> I disagree violently with all efforts that would waste Debian people's
>> time to rewrite existing and well-working times just for the sake of
>> having them in a more "modern" pr
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we as a distribution should solve.
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 11:02:21 -0500, "Theodore Ts'o"
wrote:
>On Tue, Dec 10, 2024 at 09:24:15PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>> But things are moving by shadow upstream taking a user-hostile stance,
>> willing to take away freedom. I must be fine with that because I
&g
uage.
That time is much better spent with improving existing tools.
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t pay, it needs to have
comfortable or cool tools.
That being said, I frequently consider other tools comfortable than
young people do.
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the world to
adapt to them (see also their "spam" filters).
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s" includes basically all home users, at least in
>Sweden where I live. This is not about ISPs blocking "some traffic",
>they only block outgoing smtp traffic on default ports. The reasons are
>obvious.
An ISP should NEVER block traffic to the SMTP submission port 587, fo
On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 17:50:55 +0530, Pirate Praveen
wrote:
>On 12/11/24 5:20 PM, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 17:04:52 +0530, Pirate Praveen
>> wrote:
>>> I think a reportbug web based front end that authenticates with salsa
>>> via oauth and send
use
reportbug.
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email and su will want to be able to input it.
That's easy, just choose a user name for YOU that YOU can type on YOUR
keyboard. Why would anybody chose a username that is impossible to use
in their own locale?
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st be fine with that because I
cannot change it. But I don't need to like it.
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forbid these. Just forbidding everything is heading
the wrong direction.
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gt;by allowing it always. Same for longer names.
I think that our distinction between system users and "normal" users
is fine. Noone needs a package generating "weird" user names.
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a clear usability issue.
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on LWN. I
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er nor useradd are setuid.
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ing, sorting, comparing.
If we'd normalize things away in storage, why do we have homographs in
the first place? Why would I replace a kyrillic a with a latin a,
destroying the idea of a "script"?
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On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 11:29:16AM -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 05:20:53PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> > I'll probably deprecate --allow-bad-names in favor of something that
> > doesn't use the word "bad" (suggestions appreciated). Oto
On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 08:41:06PM +0100, Étienne Mollier wrote:
> Marc Haber, on 2024-12-03:
> > I'll probably deprecate --allow-bad-names in favor of something that
> > doesn't use the word "bad" (suggestions appreciated). Otoh, adduser in
> > the Red Hat
On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 09:39:03PM +0100, Gioele Barabucci wrote:
> On 03/12/24 17:59, Marc Haber wrote:
> > > in preparation for a PRECIS future, couldn't adduser pass the usernames
> > > through NFC instead of doing no normalization?
> > >
> > &
On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 05:46:00PM +0100, Gioele Barabucci wrote:
> On 03/12/24 17:20, Marc Haber wrote:
> > What I intend to do in adduser for the next unstable upload is:
> >
> > - adduser --system's user name validation will not change
> > - I'll m
stions appreciated). Otoh, adduser in
the Red Hat World uses --badname to allow such names as well.
I would love to hear your opinion. Silence is agreement ;-)
Greetings
Marc
¹ RFC 8264, RFC 8265, and Unicode TR 15 linked in this thread were
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On Sun, Dec 01, 2024 at 06:55:09PM -0500, nick black wrote:
> Marc Haber left as an exercise for the reader:
> > > * any upstream tool could say "bad idea" and refuse patches,
> > >requiring their long term management,
> >
> > Depending of ho
le-UTF-8).
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e, /etc/passwd or
an LDAP diretory) to work with non-Debian OSses, they need to take care
about which accounts they create. I don't think that we should restrict
local admins who don't need that kind of portability.
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encodes it into the byte stream that goes to useradd and
library calls.
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On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 08:42:10PM +0100, Étienne Mollier wrote:
> Marc Haber, on 2024-11-22:
> > I might be naive here , but I don't have much experience with non-ascii
> > names since I have the privilege of being fluent in two languages that
> > use the latin al
e currently allow for system accounts. I also don't
like that this is not configurable, especially regarding systemd-homed
which affects the account names of regular users.
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Debian, we have a rather tightly
controlled ecosystem and can take care that things don't break too
badly.
> I checked what other systems do:
Thank you for this tedious work. I have incorporated that into
https://wiki.debian.org/UserAccountsPhilosophy to preserve the
information.
Greetin
potentially insecure (homographs) and at
> high-risk of breaking existing applications (lack of standardized
> normalization form).
Can you outline an attack/failure scenario?
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name despite in
"su"? I see it as the exception that local parts of mail addresses do
1:1 map to a UNIX user name.
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your name using American
> letters
> because that's all we have after half a century of Computers being a thing...
In Debian stable, they can already try.
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Hi nick,
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 02:48:10AM -0500, nick black wrote:
> Marc Haber left as an exercise for the reader:
> > (1)
> > Should Debian allow UTF-8 user names in the first place or should we
> > restrict names for regular users to some us-ascii near set as well?
On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 01:48:33PM +0100, Chris Hofstaedtler wrote:
> * Marc Haber [241127 13:28]:
> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 04:58:00PM +0500, Andrey Rakhmatullin wrote:
> > > Yup, as I said it makes sense. It just feels fragile to me when the
> > > "pristine&q
gz.
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.
It's only a major nuisance compared to others that we have in the
project, but if I had an Euro for every time I have sighed and mv'ed a
tarball, I'd be rich and be able to work almost full time on Debian.
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On Sun, Nov 24, 2024 at 11:58:44AM +0100, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Marc Haber writes:
> >> On the other hand, as long as this is admin-controlled, it doesn't
> >> matter much. I could see that viewpoint, but I wonder how much latent
> >> breakage would be introduced
ges of
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cks would be best mitigated in software reading
/etc/passwd, alerting in their output or logs that the user name they
just printed was composed of strange alphabets.
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[Reducing the list to debian-devel. I have omitted to set Reply-To and
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On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 11:26:48PM +0100, Iustin Pop wrote:
> On 2024-11-21 18:45:06, Marc Haber wrote:
> > Should Debian allow UTF-8 user names in the first place or should we
> > res
On Thu, Nov 21, 2024 at 10:05:49PM +, Richard Lewis wrote:
> Marc Haber writes:
>
>
> > For adduser's next release, I would like to discuss the following
> > things:
> >
> > (1)
> > Should Debian allow UTF-8 user names in the first place or shoul
g and packaging. You can gt
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