On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 10:12:05PM +0100, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
On 05.03.25 21:35, Marc Haber wrote:
And which of the millions of changes would that be that would break YOUR system?

The number of changes that can adversely impact your ability to boot *or* your network connectivity (but which won't fail the upgrade!) can safely be assumed to be smaller than five or so.

And which of the millions are those five? Any small number of "false alerts" already will cause users to stop reading.

Maybe we could introduce a new header field where a package might create itself as "probably harmful to the reboot" (like grub, initramfs-tools, network-manager, systemd etc) and have their NEWS entries sorted first by apt-listchanges.

But I think that it is unrealistic to expect maintainers to classify their changes whether they might affect reboot.

Running a headless server without console access is a challenge. You _really_ need to know your way to debug such a situation. I don't think that we as a distribtion can change that.

In the current case, it's only a matter of hooking up a display and keyboard to a physically accessible system. It could be a housing server in a datacenter next time (been there, done that).

Greetings
Marc

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