Benjamin Mesing wrote:
> Meelis Roos wrote:
> > JFSP> - Separate runlevels: 2 for multi, no net, 3 for multi no X, 4 for X,
> > 4=5
> >
> > Why? Display manager as a normal service that can be started and stopped
> > like other services is very natural. No need to confuse the users with
> > more
Le Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:09:01 -0500, John Hasler a écrit :
> Roberto C. Sanchez writes:
>> Where, pray tell, is a newbie going to learn about [runlevels]?
>
> a) By having used Red Hat.
> b) By reading up on Linux before trying to use it (yes, some people _do_
>that).
Those that i read back w
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:34:37PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > Yes, I imagine the w-b infrastructure's lack of scalability was probably a
> > factor in being choosy about what machines to accept as buildds, but there
> > are certainly going to be other factors that scale linearly with the numb
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 19:30 +0300, Meelis Roos wrote:
> JFSP> - Separate runlevels: 2 for multi, no net, 3 for multi no X, 4 for X,
> 4=5
>
> Why? Display manager as a normal service that can be started and stopped
> like other services is very natural. No need to confuse the users with
> more ru
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 03:27:42PM -0700, Blars Blarson wrote:
> It looks like this software could use some redesign to put less work
> on the buildd maintainers and scale better to more buildds.
There was one in the make, but it got stuck for some unknown reasons (mostly
because involved people
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
>On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 06:13:10AM -0700, Blars Blarson wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
>writes:
>> >- sparc: one buildd which is not consistently able to keep up with the
>> > volume of incoming packages; no backup buildd, no
Le Tue, 07 Jun 2005 23:20:37 +0100, Colin Watson a écrit :
> en_GB.ISO-8859-1 doesn't exist unless you go to the effort of defining
> it yourself - it's not in /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED. (Yes, in this case
> there happens to be an ISO-8859-15 equivalent, but that's not the case
> everywhere.)
ah
"Thaddeus H. Black" writes:
> We are going to support Unicode because we have
> no practical alternative. However, Unicode is a bad
> standard. It is highly overwrought. Its philosophy is
> wrong. Its use complicates many things which do not
> need complication.
Lots of accusations but no bac
On Tue, 2005-06-07 at 09:48 -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> IMHO, it's a bug if it doesn't work efficiently without specialized
> assistance from shell completions.
Yup. I deliberately use baz without shell completions for just this
reason. If something annoys me, it gets fixed;).
Cheers,
Rob
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On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:19:25AM -0400, Kyle McMartin wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:12:04AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > - hppa: one buildd, keeps up with package volume, but no backup buildd and
> > gdb seems to kill its kernel (yay); one porter machine.
> The "gdb kills sarti" issu
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:37:15PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Blars Blarson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > I've been watching the sparc buildd queues for the past 9 months or
> > so, filing most of the ftbfs bugs for sparc, and prodding the buildd
> > maintainer when a package needs a simple b
"Benj. Mako Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Without going down a semantic rathole, I'm happy to disagree here. In
> any case, it was meant more of a good-natured (if slightly vicious)
> jab against a program I love and am very critical of. I apologize if
> it came out wrong.
Er, no problem. I
> "Benj. Mako Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> IMHO, it's a bug if it doesn't work efficiently without specialized
> >> assistance from shell completions.
> >
> > Absolutely. The fact that such a workaround is essential is a sign of
> > serious problem. :) tla has those in force. :)
>
> Gee
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 06:13:10AM -0700, Blars Blarson wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> >- sparc: one buildd which is not consistently able to keep up with the
> > volume of incoming packages; no backup buildd, no additional porter
> > machine.
> Second faster
On Tue, 07 Jun 2005, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> Petri Latvala wrote:
> >1) divert the other? what's the use of another package version then
>
> That depends on system-wide vs per-user vs per-environment.
If you want something done per-user/per-environment, you can always
use dpkg-deb -x foo.deb .
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:37:15PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Blars Blarson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > I've been watching the sparc buildd queues for the past 9 months or
> > so, filing most of the ftbfs bugs for sparc, and prodding the buildd
> > maintainer when a package needs a simple b
* Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> last time i spoke to him [name forgotten] the maintainer
> of coreutils would not accept the coreutils patches -
> already completed and demonstrated as working and sitting on
> http://selinux.lemuria.org/newselinux - because libselinu
Does anyone know of a filter that translates a diff -pu to a ChangeLog
stub? The terms diff and ChangeLog produce nothing but noise for
search results. If not, I'll just sit down and write it myself, but it
sure seems like something a hundred other developers would have done.
Thanks!
Shaun
"Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> But the problem is that for this to work this way, you have to support
> downgrades. With a more complex scheme supporting redowngrades (i.e.
> upgrading and downgrading again when no user-made changes were done)
> would be needed.
> This has to be s
* Robert Lemmen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:12:04AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > - sparc: one buildd which is not consistently able to keep up with the
> > volume of incoming packages; no backup buildd, no additional porter
> > machine.
>
> how powerfull would a
Will Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > Would you please contribute your suggestions (either improve bits at that
>> > page or somewhere else) of how to improve things. Thanks.
>>
>> What makes you think I have any?
>
> A lack of familiarity with your posts?
Not fair; asuffield is often needl
* Blars Blarson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I've been watching the sparc buildd queues for the past 9 months or
> so, filing most of the ftbfs bugs for sparc, and prodding the buildd
> maintainer when a package needs a simple build requeue or the sbuild
> chroot is broken.
Great! What mechanisms
* Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:12:00PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> > * Steve Langasek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > Clone yourself and make yourself a slave to the buildds for 7 or 8
> > > architectures, so that the release team doesn't have to. Neith
"Benj. Mako Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> IMHO, it's a bug if it doesn't work efficiently without specialized
>> assistance from shell completions.
>
> Absolutely. The fact that such a workaround is essential is a sign of
> serious problem. :) tla has those in force. :)
Geez can you be a bi
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 09:23 pm, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:20:56PM -0400, Brendan wrote:
> > On Tuesday 07 June 2005 07:09 pm, John Hasler wrote:
> > > Roberto C. Sanchez writes:
> > > > Where, pray tell, is a newbie going to learn about [runlevels]?
> > >
> > > a) By
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:20:56PM -0400, Brendan wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 June 2005 07:09 pm, John Hasler wrote:
> > Roberto C. Sanchez writes:
> > > Where, pray tell, is a newbie going to learn about [runlevels]?
> >
> > a) By having used Red Hat.
> > b) By reading up on Linux before trying to use
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 07:09 pm, John Hasler wrote:
> Roberto C. Sanchez writes:
> > Where, pray tell, is a newbie going to learn about [runlevels]?
>
> a) By having used Red Hat.
> b) By reading up on Linux before trying to use it (yes, some people _do_
>that).
I couldn't have said it better
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Roberto C. Sanchez writes:
> Where, pray tell, is a newbie going to learn about [runlevels]?
a) By having used Red Hat.
b) By reading up on Linux before trying to use it (yes, some people _do_
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* Martin Pitt [Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:22:00 +0200]:
Hello Martin,
> I already did these steps for a fair number of packages. So if you
> maintain one of the packages that have a debdiff at [3], you are lucky
> and only need to apply the patch there (however, cyrus-sasl2 and
> dovecot were nasty case
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 07:50:58AM +1000, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:56:08PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> >On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:52:22PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> >>I am wondering what the deal is with Luca and his packages,
> >>specifically h
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:40:47AM -0400, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
> > >
> > > > That sounds very nice indeed. If that pans out, and you also fix the UI
> > > > issues (by which I mean I have to type approximately three times as many
> > > > charac
Petri Latvala wrote:
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 11:40:55AM +0200, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
The ability to have multiple versions of a package installed at the same
time.
(Sorry Olaf, for getting this twice, my fingers work too fast)
No, dear $DEITY. This "feature" is the major thing I hate abo
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 04:03:24PM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote:
> Matt Zimmerman([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-07 13:35:
> > If the diff were zero bytes, Debian and Ubuntu would be identical. I hope
> > that you can understand my hesitation to accept a definition of success
> > which means that Ubunt
Roger Leigh:
> At a later point, we should also look into recoding
> our documentation into UTF-8.
Insofar as our documentation has upper-plane Latin-1 (or
terminal-shift) characters embedded, this is sensible.
However, we need to continue to think carefully about
this. We are going to support U
Ok, this is already the second time I have to report a bug like this,
so I will warn everybody before I find more of them.
There seems to be a bunch of packages who try to update the changelog
in this way:
dch -a -p "GNU config automated update: config.sub\
($$OLDDATESUB t
Matt Zimmerman([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-07 13:35:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:25:53PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
>
> > You seem to try to pick up every little bit of my mails which is able
> > to drift us away from the main point:
> >
> >Lets minimize the amount of work by beeing as compa
Ian Murdock([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-07 11:34:
> Second, I've been trying to start a private conversation about
> this very issue since last November, and my attempts to do
> so have largely been ignored. If taking the concern
> public is the only way to get it addressed, then so be it.
>
> The
> Stephen Birch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > The question was really this, if Ubuntu created a better bug tracking
> > program would Debian want to run the new software on the debian
> > servers thus replacing the current bug tracking programs?
>
> AFAIK, what Ubuntu is developing is proprieta
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:31:24PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Julien BLACHE
>
> | A bug is a bug, whether it triggers or not.
>
> It's not RC and therefore not a priority if it has no effect.
Why do you assume it is non-RC ?
In practice, a FTBFS on a plateform can be a grave runtime bug
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 08:24:31PM -0400, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > any progress on making libselinux1 a "Required" package?
> >
> > the possibility of having debian/selinux is totally dependent
> > on this one thing happening.
> >
> > no
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:25:53PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> You seem to try to pick up every little bit of my mails which is able
> to drift us away from the main point:
>
>Lets minimize the amount of work by beeing as compatible as
>possible. The best way is to have a diff of zero
I've been watching the sparc buildd queues for the past 9 months or
so, filing most of the ftbfs bugs for sparc, and prodding the buildd
maintainer when a package needs a simple build requeue or the sbuild
chroot is broken.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>IIUC, this is a
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:55:00PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > guidelines like
> > "3 is multi-user with no X" "5 is full gui, etc."
> > Remember, init 0 and 6 are well-defined already
>
> OK. Where, pray tell, is a newbie going to learn about that? Most
> newbies that come from MS
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:28:37PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Eh? You can't change that around just like that, it will break in the
> > cases where people ssh in from machines with latin1 locales for
> > instance (and use the PassEnv feature of newe
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Josh Lauricha wrote:
> On Tue 06/07/05 18:17, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > Dropping a source package might get you into legal trouble (some of the
> > licenses for software in Debian require you distribute the source, so
> > you would need to be /very/ careful not to drop somethi
* Roger Leigh
| Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
|
| > * Roger Leigh
| >
| > | - When UTF-8 is the default locale, it shouldn't need a .UTF-8 suffix,
| > | e.g. en_GB will be UTF-8, and en_GB.ISO-8859-1 will be Latin-1 (the
| > | opposite way round to the current situation which
Meelis Roos writes:
> Display manager as a normal service that can be started and stopped like
> other services is very natural. No need to confuse the users with more
> runlevels since there's not much point in differentiating them nowadays.
Users coming from other distributions expect more runle
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 03:51:46PM -0400, Brendan wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 June 2005 09:37 am, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > I agree. I rather like being able to configure run levels to my liking.
>
> I'm sorry, but this sets off my "Give me a break" reaction...
> There's nothing wrong with a "By D
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:56:08PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
>On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:52:22PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>>I am wondering what the deal is with Luca and his packages,
>>specifically httperf.
>
>Yeah, I'm about to orphan his packages next time I'm orphaning package
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> On Tuesday 07 June 2005 23:02, Roger Leigh wrote:
>> Existing installs are already configured with debconf. Their
>> /etc/locale.gen will not be touched.
>>
>> If you do dpkg-reconfigure locales, then users cou
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Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * Roger Leigh
>
> | - When UTF-8 is the default locale, it shouldn't need a .UTF-8 suffix,
> | e.g. en_GB will be UTF-8, and en_GB.ISO-8859-1 will be Latin-1 (the
> | opposite way round to the current
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 23:02, Roger Leigh wrote:
> Existing installs are already configured with debconf. Their
> /etc/locale.gen will not be touched.
>
> If you do dpkg-reconfigure locales, then users could have the locale
> switch to UTF-8 if they so choose.
AFAIK locales are automatically reg
* Roger Leigh
| - When UTF-8 is the default locale, it shouldn't need a .UTF-8 suffix,
| e.g. en_GB will be UTF-8, and en_GB.ISO-8859-1 will be Latin-1 (the
| opposite way round to the current situation which creates
| en_GB.UTF-8 and en_GB [Latin-1]).
Eh? You can't change that around jus
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Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tuesday 07 June 2005 22:10, Roger Leigh wrote:
>> - When UTF-8 is the default locale, it shouldn't need a .UTF-8
>> suffix, e.g. en_GB will be UTF-8, and en_GB.ISO-8859-1 will be Latin-1
>> (the opposite way
> Now that sarge is out (BTW, congrats to everybody!), can I close bug
> reports tagged "woody" ?
I think that you should close those reports if and only if corresponding
bugs are fixed in sarge.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>[Josselin Mouette]
>> However that won't help the architecture make it to a Vancouver-like
>> release.
>
>I suspect you have misunderstood the content and intention of the
>proposal from the group meeting in Vancover.
The intent was not at
* "Roberto C. Sanchez"
| On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 04:27:58PM +0200, Fabio Tranchitella wrote:
| > On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 at 10:16 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
| > > I asked a while back (on IRC) about packaging the NX components that are
| > > under the GPL. Someone pointed me to Fabian's packag
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:06:16PM +0200, Alban Browaeys wrote:
> Le Tue, 07 Jun 2005 19:40:52 +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña a
> écrit :
>
> > No package frontend I am aware of can currently pull that stunt. Aptitude
> > or dselect can only search in the package names ('/' key). Synaptic
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 22:10, Roger Leigh wrote:
> - When UTF-8 is the default locale, it shouldn't need a .UTF-8
> suffix, e.g. en_GB will be UTF-8, and en_GB.ISO-8859-1 will be Latin-1
> (the opposite way round to the current situation which creates
> en_GB.UTF-8 and en_GB [Latin-1]).
>
> [...]
* Julien BLACHE
| A bug is a bug, whether it triggers or not.
It's not RC and therefore not a priority if it has no effect.
Similarly, I'd expect Debian maintainers to care less about bugs which
only affects OpenBSD or Windows than those which affect Linux on i386.
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On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
This is the first time that you have mentioned the amount as a criteria in
this discussion. However, I fail to see what the point is here, whether a
repository includes one package or 1,000 packages.
Well, I was not really saying it explicitely in
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Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Feel free to add some new items or add (hopefully new) information to the
> ones I list below:
[Transition to UTF-8 locales]
- - The locale codeset should be UTF-8 for all new installs by
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 07:24:06PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Martin Pitt:
>
> > (2) PostgreSQL 8.0 brought a new SONAME for libpq (libpq4), which
> > removed a few symbols which were only intended for internal use,
> > but were used nevertheless by some client apps (like "psql").
>
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 09:37 am, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> I agree. I rather like being able to configure run levels to my liking.
I'm sorry, but this sets off my "Give me a break" reaction...
There's nothing wrong with a "By Default, this runlevel is this...but you can
change it if you wish"
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 08:50:35PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Please provide an URL to the place where Knoppix and Morphix
>"provide free software in .deb format"
> in a comparable amount to Ubuntus universe.
This is the first time that you have mentioned the amount as a criteria in
this d
Hi!
Andreas Metzler [2005-06-07 20:03 +0200]:
> Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
> > I will upload the new packages to unstable very soon. This has a
> > reasonably big impact to all packages that depend/build-depend on
> > PostgreSQL since the package structure changed a bit:
>
>
Hi Florian!
Florian Weimer [2005-06-07 19:24 +0200]:
> * Martin Pitt:
>
> > (2) PostgreSQL 8.0 brought a new SONAME for libpq (libpq4), which
> > removed a few symbols which were only intended for internal use,
> > but were used nevertheless by some client apps (like "psql").
> > libp
Le Tue, 07 Jun 2005 19:40:52 +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña a
écrit :
> No package frontend I am aware of can currently pull that stunt. Aptitude
> or dselect can only search in the package names ('/' key). Synaptic can
> search in the descriptions (with equivalent results as apt-get).
Th
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 04:19:19PM +0200, Remi Vanicat wrote:
> Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:37:29AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:32:53PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 01:03:12AM +020
Le Tue, 07 Jun 2005 19:51:03 +0200, Frank Lichtenheld a écrit :
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:14:12PM +0200, Rafael Laboissiere wrote:
>> Now that sarge is out (BTW, congrats to everybody!), can I close bug
>> reports tagged "woody" ?
>
> Depends. Certainly not security related bugs. For others it
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:06:55AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:40:48PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:37:29AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > > Why? What if I prefer to have something from inetd only when necessary
> > > instead
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 20:16, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > Would you please contribute your suggestions (either improve bits at that
> > page or somewhere else) of how to improve things. Thanks.
>
> What makes you think I have any?
A lack of familiarity with your posts?
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On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 03:58:52PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> [Andrew Suffield]
> > It's supported just fine if you take backups at the appropriate
> > moment. I can't think of any useful way in which it could be more
> > supported than that.
>
> You should be careful when using your imag
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:06:45PM +0300, George Danchev wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 June 2005 16:25, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 10:23:33AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote:
> > > To begin with we can all go back and review:
> > >
> > > http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?ReleaseProposa
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:21:35PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
heard of Knoppix, Morphix,
They do not provide an apt-get - able Debian mirror.
They provide free software in .deb format.
Not really - as fa
> Second, I've been trying to start a private conversation about
> this very issue since last November, and my attempts to do
> so have largely been ignored. If taking the concern
> public is the only way to get it addressed, then so be it.
Since this doesn't seem to have reached the right ears s
On 2005 June 07 Tuesday 06:09, David Goodenough wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 June 2005 09:26, Thomas Hood wrote:
> > On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:10:13 +0200, David Goodenough wrote:
> > > Another item that might be worth considering for laptops is a
> > > networking equivalent of the pmount group. People in
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 07:24:06PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> I assume applications linked to libpq3 should be able to connect to
> PostgreSQL 8.0 servers. Is this correct? (According to a few tests,
> it is.)
It is correct; older protocol versions are supported upstream.
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Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> I will upload the new packages to unstable very soon. This has a
> reasonably big impact to all packages that depend/build-depend on
> PostgreSQL since the package structure changed a bit:
> (1) postgresql-dev was split into libpq-dev (for client app
JFSP> - Separate runlevels: 2 for multi, no net, 3 for multi no X, 4 for X, 4=5
Why? Display manager as a normal service that can be started and stopped
like other services is very natural. No need to confuse the users with
more runlevels since there's not much point in differentiating them
nowada
Stephen Birch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The question was really this, if Ubuntu created a better bug tracking
> program would Debian want to run the new software on the debian
> servers thus replacing the current bug tracking programs?
AFAIK, what Ubuntu is developing is proprietary software,
JFSP> - inetd begone! -> xinetd (better mechanism to control DoS, privilege
JFSP> separation, etc.)
Privilege separation etc is nice, but have a look at xinetd source and
reconsider. I have tried to fix a DoS-like problem (a timing-related bug
that caused temporary disabling of services) in xine
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:19:40PM +0200, Martin Braure de Calignon wrote:
> > I have blacklisted the same command than kopetetex, that is :
> > > #define NB_BLACKLIST (42)
> > > #define BLACKLIST
> > > {"\\def","\\let","\\futurelet","\\newcommand","\\renewcomment","\\else","\\fi","\\write","\\inp
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 10:06:05PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Personal communication is how development works in the entire rest of
> the free software world, I really don't see why Ubuntu is different.
This strikes me as ironic, considering that you are attempting to hold
Ubuntu to a standard whi
On 2005 June 07 Tuesday 06:04, David Goodenough wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 June 2005 09:26, Thomas Hood wrote:
> > On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 10:10:13 +0200, David Goodenough wrote:
> > > Another item that might be worth considering for laptops is a
> > > networking equivalent of the pmount group. People in
On Jun 07, Adrian von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In my wishlist there is NO support of 2.4 kernels
> Hmm. I've never verified this myself, however until recently it was often
> claimed that 2.6 is still quite a bit worse than 2.4 for some workloads -
This does not make it true.
> >
On Jun 07, Julien BLACHE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Given our current architecture coverage, a bug on one architecture
> often also exists on at least one other architecture; because it
> doesn't manifest there doesn't mean it doesn't exist. A bug is a bug,
> whether it triggers or not.
But a bu
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 05:14:12PM +0200, Rafael Laboissiere wrote:
> Now that sarge is out (BTW, congrats to everybody!), can I close bug
> reports tagged "woody" ?
Depends. Certainly not security related bugs. For others it might
be usefull to keep them around to perhaps prevent others from repo
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:33:02AM +0200, cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis) wrote:
> If we're gonna change this, could we please use the LSB definition [1]?
>
> [1]
> http://refspecs.freestandards.org/LSB_2.1.0/LSB-Core-generic/LSB-Core-generic/runlevels.html
Sure, that's my goal, but my notes were tak
> > - Better package search mechanism (tags?) allowing free text search
> > in package management interfaces: "I want a program that does X"
>
> Doesn't 'apt-cache search X' do exactly that?
[ Here's the in-depth answer from my POV ]
Think of a *end* user that wants to find the most popular mu
* Martin Pitt:
> (2) PostgreSQL 8.0 brought a new SONAME for libpq (libpq4), which
> removed a few symbols which were only intended for internal use,
> but were used nevertheless by some client apps (like "psql").
> libpq4 can talk to all PostgreSQL servers back to 7.3 (same like
>
Hi,
new version of libsablot-dev includes all devel files (I am talking
about sablot-config), so it's no longer neccessary to Build-dep on
sablotron package, plain libsablot-dev should be enough.
This doesn't apply if your package needs sabcmd...
Ondrej
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Ondrej Sury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 09:53:40PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > Debian does, in fact, treat most of its upstreams precisely this way.
> > Debian publishes a large portion of its changes primarily in the form of
> > monolithic diffs relative to upstream source. The last time
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 10:57:50PM -0400, Grzegorz B. Prokopski wrote:
> My impression was that firewall setting is generally a messy business,
> because there's too many packages that mess with it, usually assuming
> they're the only ones who touch it. This was, I think part of the
> reason why /
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:21:35PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>
> >>>heard of Knoppix, Morphix,
> >>They do not provide an apt-get - able Debian mirror.
> >
> >They provide free software in .deb format.
> Not really - as far as you don't consider dpkg-
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:47:50AM +0200, David Weinehall wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:21:46AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote:
> > Florian Weimer([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2005-06-06 09:32:
> > > * Stephen Birch:
> > >
> > > > Wow Nokia just became my new favourite company.
> > >
> > > To put thi
* Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [050607 16:00]:
> You should be careful when using your imagination as the guideline for
> what is useful or not. It might not be a very accurate source of
> information.
>
> RPM got rollback support, and it is very useful. I recommend reading
> some of
Andrew Suffield wrote:
> No way. Debian has always avoided mindlessly dictating what runlevels
> must be used for. There's no reason to destroy this feature now. And
> there's no advantage to consuming an entire runlevel just to say
> "/etc/init.d/xdm stop" or "/etc/init.d/networking stop", which i
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