Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-11-10 Thread Frank Küster
Hilmar Preusse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So we should keep them in -core. I just checked whether we >> distribute any gf files, and since this is not the case, it seemed >> not necessary to me. But we should keep in mind that add-on font >> packages might have .gf files. >> > Metafont creat

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-11-09 Thread Hilmar Preusse
On 27.10.05 Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, > >> /usr/bin/pktogf (convert packed font files to generic font files) > >> /usr/bin/gftopk (and back) > > > > This is used by mktexpk! > > So we should keep them in -core. I just checked whethe

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-28 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 11:37:47AM +0200, Frank K??ster wrote: > Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is it really necessary to reduce the package as much as necessary for > > the buildds? Wouldn't a more useful goal for a larger number of users > > be to break the package into a "core"

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-28 Thread Frank Küster
Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it really necessary to reduce the package as much as necessary for > the buildds? Wouldn't a more useful goal for a larger number of users > be to break the package into a "core" package, which is the "common" > stuff (somewhat arbitrarily defined), w

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-27 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 03:56:21PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: > Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hmmm. These are small binaries with very little in the way of > > dependencies. Could probably lose them to tetex-bin-extra or > > tetex-bin-litprog, though. > > That was all I was talkin

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-27 Thread Frank Küster
Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> 2. guidelines for splitting >> > [...] >> >> 3. Some possible splitting schemes >>=== > > I have now set up a project homepage on alioth > > http://pkg

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-27 Thread Frank Küster
Ralf Stubner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 15:56 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: >> >> mpost, >> >> mpto, >> >> makempx >> >> /usr/bin/makempy (MetaPost) >> >> /usr/bin/mptopdf >> > >> > I would suggest that MetaPost is now regarded as a core component of a >> > moder

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-27 Thread Frank Küster
Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2. guidelines for splitting > [...] > > 3. Some possible splitting schemes >=== I have now set up a project homepage on alioth http://pkg-tetex.alioth.debian.org/ with only one topic, splittin

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-27 Thread Ralf Stubner
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 15:56 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > >> mpost, > >> mpto, > >> makempx > >> /usr/bin/makempy (MetaPost) > >> /usr/bin/mptopdf > > > > I would suggest that MetaPost is now regarded as a core component of a > > modern TeX distribution, so I'd suggest keeping it in th

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-27 Thread Frank Küster
Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Agreed up to here. > >> /usr/bin/tangle >> /usr/bin/tie >> /usr/bin/ctangle >> /usr/bin/weave >> /usr/bin/ctie >> /usr/bin/cweave (CWEB stuff) > > Hmmm. These are small binaries with very little in the way of > dependencies. Could probably lose them to

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-26 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 02:56:29PM +0200, Frank K??ster wrote: > Here are some more suggestions for the opt-out list, including what > you already provided: > > omega, > aleph, > omfonts, > odvicopy, > odvitype, > otangle, > otp2ocp, > outocp (Omega) > /usr/bin/opl2ofm > /usr/bin/ov

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-25 Thread Ralf Stubner
On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 19:51 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Do you think it should be possible to have combinations like > "tetex-bin, tetex-base plus ConTeXt from texlive"? Would be nice, but not strictly necessary. > Or do you think that > someone will want tetex-extra on top of some parts of t

Bug#302035: Non-European fonts: tetex-base or -extra? (was: Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian)

2005-10-25 Thread Frank Küster
Ralf Stubner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 16:28 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > >> - PSNFSS fonts, the CM and EC fonts in Metafont and Type1 format, if >> available. > > To what extend do we want internationlization? Should people be able to > produce documentation in Russia

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-25 Thread Frank Küster
Ralf Stubner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 16:28 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: >> I expect that teTeX will continue to be the standard package for >> creating documentation when building a Debian package, and I think that >> we should try to develop our splitting schemes mainly

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-25 Thread Frank Küster
Ralf Stubner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > dvipdfm ebb (unsure about those) I don't think we need them in tetex-bin-core or however it's going to be called. I don't think that dvipdfm is used to create pdf in any automated system. We can always put it back if somebody complains. Or rather, as a

Bug#302035: Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-24 Thread Ralf Stubner
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 20:28 +0200, Ralf Stubner wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 16:28 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > > - PSNFSS fonts, the CM and EC fonts in Metafont and Type1 format, if > > available. > > To what extend do we want internationlization? Should people be able to > produce docume

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-24 Thread Ralf Stubner
Some additions On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 20:40 +0200, Ralf Stubner wrote: > tetex-bin-extra: > omega, aleph, omfonts, odvicopy, odvitype, otangle, otp2ocp, outocp (Omega) mkocp (Omega) > mpost, mpto, makempx (MetaPost) dmp dvitomp (MetaPost) > texexec (ConTeXt) > pltotf, tftopl, vftovp, vptovf (

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-24 Thread Ralf Stubner
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 17:27 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 04:28:25PM +0200, Frank K??ster wrote: > >> > >> * advanced scheme > >> ^^^ > >> Additionally, tetex-bin-nox is split into tetex-bin-mini and > >> tetex-

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-24 Thread Ralf Stubner
On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 16:28 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > regarding tetex-bin > > a) #78926: If possible, it'd be nice if dvips were a seperate package, >so that users of printfilters, e.g., don't need tetex-bin installed. > >[is this really a realistic scenario? How many systems are th

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-24 Thread Frank Küster
Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 04:28:25PM +0200, Frank K??ster wrote: > >> 3.1 tetex-bin >> >> * minimal scheme >> ^^ >> tetex-bin is split into tetex-bin-nox and tetex-bin-x11; tetex-bin >> continues to exist as a dummy package. Besides sorting

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-24 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 04:28:25PM +0200, Frank K??ster wrote: > 3.1 tetex-bin > > * minimal scheme > ^^ > tetex-bin is split into tetex-bin-nox and tetex-bin-x11; tetex-bin > continues to exist as a dummy package. Besides sorting files with dh_* > and writing the necessary control

Bug#100332: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian

2005-10-24 Thread Frank Küster
Dear all, there are a lot of requests for a more clever splitting of tetex-base, -bin, and -extra in the BTS. Now that we are early in the release cycle of etch, and teTeX-3.0 is finally in unstable, I want to approach the question of splitting. This mail goes to all the bugs that refer to spli