On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 02:56:29PM +0200, Frank K??ster wrote:
> Here are some more suggestions for the opt-out list, including what
> you already provided:
> 
> omega,
> aleph, 
> omfonts, 
> odvicopy, 
> odvitype, 
> otangle, 
> otp2ocp, 
> outocp          (Omega)
> /usr/bin/opl2ofm
> /usr/bin/ovf2ovp
> /usr/bin/ovp2ovf
> /usr/bin/ofm2opl
> /usr/bin/mkofm  (omega-related)
> /usr/bin/pdfxtex (experimental)

Agreed up to here.

> /usr/bin/tangle
> /usr/bin/tie
> /usr/bin/ctangle 
> /usr/bin/weave
> /usr/bin/ctie
> /usr/bin/cweave (CWEB stuff)

Hmmm.  These are small binaries with very little in the way of
dependencies.  Could probably lose them to tetex-bin-extra or
tetex-bin-litprog, though.

> /usr/bin/dvicopy (for dvi processors that can't handle virtual fonts)

OK.

> /usr/bin/dvitype (human "readable" output, for validation and as a reference 
> implementation)

Not sure this is a good idea to lose: it's part of DEK's original
TeXware suite, and it is expected by some users.

> /usr/bin/gftype  (same for gf fonts)

Far less critical unless you're making METAFONTs.

> /usr/bin/pooltype(same for pool files)
> /usr/bin/pktype  (same for pk fonts)
> /usr/bin/gftodvi (produces one-char-per-page dvi files from a gf font)
> /usr/bin/patgen  (generate patterns for TeX hyphenation)

Yes, these are also uncommonly used, IMHO.

> /usr/bin/dvired

Keep this one!  It's only a tiny shell-script!

> /usr/bin/dvilj   
> /usr/bin/dvilj2p 
> /usr/bin/dvilj4  
> /usr/bin/dvilj4l 
> /usr/bin/dvilj6
> /usr/bin/dvihp   (only needed for actual printing)

Not sure about these.

> /usr/bin/dvipdft (should go with dvipdfm or stay with it)

Don't understand your comment.

> /usr/bin/pfb2pfa (convert a type1 pfb file (binary MSDOS) into a pfa (ASCII))
> /usr/bin/pk2bm   (create X11 bitmap from pk font)
> /usr/bin/fontinst(manual tool)
> /usr/bin/ps2frag (obsolete, PSfrag probably not used in automated typesetting)

Can't comment on these.

> /usr/bin/texlinks(only useful for local customization in Debian)

???

> mpost, 
> mpto, 
> makempx          
> /usr/bin/makempy (MetaPost)
> /usr/bin/mptopdf

I would suggest that MetaPost is now regarded as a core component of a
modern TeX distribution, so I'd suggest keeping it in the core.

> texexec
> /usr/bin/texutil
> /usr/bin/uniqleaf
> /usr/bin/fdf2tan
> /usr/bin/fdf2tex (ConTeXt)
> pltotf, 
> tftopl, 
> vftovp, 
> vptovf  (TFM/VF conversion)

Sounds reasonable to lose these to -extra.

> Plus the links for formats not included in the new tetex-base.

Agreed.

> Furthermore, I think that the following are probably not necessary

Not necessary at all?  No, I think they should stay in -extra, but not
be lost completely:

> /usr/bin/mft     (translate mf to tex, for whatever purpose)

Knuth would not be happy to lose this if he were using Debian.

> /usr/bin/pktogf  (convert packed font files to generic font files)
> /usr/bin/gftopk  (and back)

This is used by mktexpk!

> /usr/bin/gsftopk (probably no longer needed, since xdvik links against libt1)

Ditto, although you may be right in your comment.

> /usr/bin/ps2pk   (creates a TeX pkfont from a type1 PostScript font)

Ditto.

> /usr/bin/allcm
> /usr/bin/allec
> /usr/bin/allneeded (create many CM/EC pk fonts at once)

Why throw away these scripts?

> /usr/bin/dvi2fax (call gs to produce fax format, may be needed by
>                   depending packages)

Quite.

> This one is probably useful, but not yet integrated for automatic usage:
> 
> /usr/bin/ttf2afm
> 
> These are only needed if cyrillic fonts are also in tetex-base:
> 
> /usr/bin/rubibtex
> /usr/bin/rumakeindex
> 
> These are dependent on X:
> 
> /usr/bin/texfind
> /usr/bin/texshow (ConTeXt help)

HTH,

   Julian


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