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Hilmar Preusse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So we should keep them in -core. I just checked whether we
>> distribute any gf files, and since this is not the case, it seemed
>> not necessary to me. But we should keep in mind that add-on font
>> packages might have .gf files.
>>
> Metafont creat
On 27.10.05 Frank Küster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
> >> /usr/bin/pktogf (convert packed font files to generic font files)
> >> /usr/bin/gftopk (and back)
> >
> > This is used by mktexpk!
>
> So we should keep them in -core. I just checked whethe
On Fri, Oct 28, 2005 at 11:37:47AM +0200, Frank K??ster wrote:
> Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Is it really necessary to reduce the package as much as necessary for
> > the buildds? Wouldn't a more useful goal for a larger number of users
> > be to break the package into a "core"
Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it really necessary to reduce the package as much as necessary for
> the buildds? Wouldn't a more useful goal for a larger number of users
> be to break the package into a "core" package, which is the "common"
> stuff (somewhat arbitrarily defined), w
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 07:07:53PM +0200, Norbert Preining wrote:
> But, for now, I see no possibility of *coexistance* of tetex and texlive
> on the same system (ie mixing of packages) due to the overlap of
> packages.
>
> Once I will write a script checking for every package whether it
> actuall
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 03:56:21PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote:
> Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hmmm. These are small binaries with very little in the way of
> > dependencies. Could probably lose them to tetex-bin-extra or
> > tetex-bin-litprog, though.
>
> That was all I was talkin
Hi all!
After some days off I am back and want to give some comments:
On Die, 25 Okt 2005, Elrond wrote:
> If they're not intended to coexist at all, this does not
> affect TeX at all. Each does its own job and decides on how
> to rule the world, and conflicts with the other. Job done.
As I see
Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> 2. guidelines for splitting
>>
> [...]
>>
>> 3. Some possible splitting schemes
>>===
>
> I have now set up a project homepage on alioth
>
> http://pkg
Ralf Stubner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 15:56 +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
>> >> mpost,
>> >> mpto,
>> >> makempx
>> >> /usr/bin/makempy (MetaPost)
>> >> /usr/bin/mptopdf
>> >
>> > I would suggest that MetaPost is now regarded as a core component of a
>> > moder
Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2. guidelines for splitting
>
[...]
>
> 3. Some possible splitting schemes
>===
I have now set up a project homepage on alioth
http://pkg-tetex.alioth.debian.org/
with only one topic, splittin
On Thu, Oct 27, 2005 at 15:56 +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> >> mpost,
> >> mpto,
> >> makempx
> >> /usr/bin/makempy (MetaPost)
> >> /usr/bin/mptopdf
> >
> > I would suggest that MetaPost is now regarded as a core component of a
> > modern TeX distribution, so I'd suggest keeping it in th
Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Agreed up to here.
>
>> /usr/bin/tangle
>> /usr/bin/tie
>> /usr/bin/ctangle
>> /usr/bin/weave
>> /usr/bin/ctie
>> /usr/bin/cweave (CWEB stuff)
>
> Hmmm. These are small binaries with very little in the way of
> dependencies. Could probably lose them to
On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 02:56:29PM +0200, Frank K??ster wrote:
> Here are some more suggestions for the opt-out list, including what
> you already provided:
>
> omega,
> aleph,
> omfonts,
> odvicopy,
> odvitype,
> otangle,
> otp2ocp,
> outocp (Omega)
> /usr/bin/opl2ofm
> /usr/bin/ov
On Tue, Oct 25, 2005 at 19:51 +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> Do you think it should be possible to have combinations like
> "tetex-bin, tetex-base plus ConTeXt from texlive"?
Would be nice, but not strictly necessary.
> Or do you think that
> someone will want tetex-extra on top of some parts of t
(switching bugs, because we want to concentrate the ongoing discussion
about the splitting scheme in one bug per source package)
Adrian Bunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh, and for Debian stable users it will take until 2008 or 2009 until
> they can get a smaller tetex-base package - for the re
Elrond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 01:32:08PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
>
>> But I am not familiar to the
>> problems that the X people tried to solve with the modularized xlibs wrt
>> this transition;
>
> I haven't followed it too deeply either. But the generic
> idea I
Ralf Stubner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 16:28 +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
>
>> - PSNFSS fonts, the CM and EC fonts in Metafont and Type1 format, if
>> available.
>
> To what extend do we want internationlization? Should people be able to
> produce documentation in Russia
Ralf Stubner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 16:28 +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
>> I expect that teTeX will continue to be the standard package for
>> creating documentation when building a Debian package, and I think that
>> we should try to develop our splitting schemes mainly
Ralf Stubner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> dvipdfm ebb (unsure about those)
I don't think we need them in tetex-bin-core or however it's going to be
called. I don't think that dvipdfm is used to create pdf in any
automated system. We can always put it back if somebody complains.
Or rather, as a
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 01:32:08PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
[...]
> > This might be an important question in a sensible split.
> > For example the big modularized xlibs was done in parts to
> > help migrating from xfree to xorg.
>
> Please note that we do not plan to "transition" from tetex to t
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 20:28 +0200, Ralf Stubner wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 16:28 +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> > - PSNFSS fonts, the CM and EC fonts in Metafont and Type1 format, if
> > available.
>
> To what extend do we want internationlization? Should people be able to
> produce docume
Some additions
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 20:40 +0200, Ralf Stubner wrote:
> tetex-bin-extra:
> omega, aleph, omfonts, odvicopy, odvitype, otangle, otp2ocp, outocp (Omega)
mkocp (Omega)
> mpost, mpto, makempx (MetaPost)
dmp dvitomp (MetaPost)
> texexec (ConTeXt)
> pltotf, tftopl, vftovp, vptovf (
On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 17:27 +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 04:28:25PM +0200, Frank K??ster wrote:
> >>
> >> * advanced scheme
> >> ^^^
> >> Additionally, tetex-bin-nox is split into tetex-bin-mini and
> >> tetex-
On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 16:28 +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> regarding tetex-bin
>
> a) #78926: If possible, it'd be nice if dvips were a seperate package,
>so that users of printfilters, e.g., don't need tetex-bin installed.
>
>[is this really a realistic scenario? How many systems are th
> From: Elrond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Bug#51869: New package splitting scheme for teTeX in Debian
> To: Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:34:55 +0200
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
[..]
> Where can I check the current status of "tex-live for
>
Julian Gilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 04:28:25PM +0200, Frank K??ster wrote:
>
>> 3.1 tetex-bin
>>
>> * minimal scheme
>> ^^
>> tetex-bin is split into tetex-bin-nox and tetex-bin-x11; tetex-bin
>> continues to exist as a dummy package. Besides sorting
Hi Elrond,
Elrond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 04:28:25PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
> [...]
>> 2. guidelines for splitting
>>
>>
>> Etch will (if nothing very surprising happens) come with two alternative
>> TeX systems: teTeX and TeX-Live. T
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On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 04:28:25PM +0200, Frank Küster wrote:
[...]
> 2. guidelines for splitting
>
>
> Etch will (if nothing very surprising happens) come with two alternative
> TeX systems: teTeX and TeX-Live. TeX-Live is not only much bigger an
On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 04:28:25PM +0200, Frank K??ster wrote:
> 3.1 tetex-bin
>
> * minimal scheme
> ^^
> tetex-bin is split into tetex-bin-nox and tetex-bin-x11; tetex-bin
> continues to exist as a dummy package. Besides sorting files with dh_*
> and writing the necessary control
Dear all,
there are a lot of requests for a more clever splitting of tetex-base,
-bin, and -extra in the BTS. Now that we are early in the release cycle
of etch, and teTeX-3.0 is finally in unstable, I want to approach the
question of splitting.
This mail goes to all the bugs that refer to spli
On Tuesday 07 June 2005 01:03, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> Feel free to add some new items or add (hopefully new) information to
> the ones I list below:
>
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