Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-07 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 7 February 2011 13:50, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > On Monday 07 February 2011, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: >> On 7 February 2011 11:21, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: >> > On Monday 07 February 2011, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: >> > >> >> Extend the co-installability to the snapshots. What means Calligra not >>

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-07 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Monday 07 February 2011, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > On 7 February 2011 11:21, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > > On Monday 07 February 2011, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > > > >> Extend the co-installability to the snapshots. What means Calligra not > >> only can be co-installable with the GroupA-Office but

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-07 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 7 February 2011 11:21, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > On Monday 07 February 2011, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > >> Extend the co-installability to the snapshots. What means Calligra not >> only can be co-installable with the GroupA-Office but also with the >> latest (or any) stable Calligra release. I se

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-07 Thread Cyrille Berger Skott
While I agree that coinstability in the same prefix is close to impossible to achieve, without a lot of work and hacks. I do think that we should do something to make it possible for a calligra version to be installed in kde's prefix (ie /usr) and in an other prefix. -- Cyrille Berger Skott __

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-07 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Monday 07 February 2011, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > Extend the co-installability to the snapshots. What means Calligra not > only can be co-installable with the GroupA-Office but also with the > latest (or any) stable Calligra release. I see value in this and the > effort at the side of packager

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-07 Thread Alfredo Beaumont
+1 I think that with a stable master branch we might very well convert this snapshots in just normal releases. Pretty much like Google Chrome works. Anyway, let's not open discussion again, let's see how this works first. Cheers Astelehena 07 Otsaila 2011(e)an, Yue Liu(e)k idatzi zuen: > agre

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-07 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Monday 07 February 2011, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > On Monday 07 February 2011, C. Boemann wrote: > > On Monday 07 February 2011 10:10:13 Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > > > The discussion seemed to have petered out without a real decision, so > > > > > > here's a really concrete proposal: > > > >

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-07 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 7 February 2011 10:10, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > The discussion seemed to have petered out without a real decision, so here's > a really concrete proposal: > > * Let's make a monthly calligra snapshot that's advertised as reasonably > stable and full of you-need-to-try-this goodness until we a

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-07 Thread Cyrille Berger Skott
On Monday 07 February 2011, C. Boemann wrote: > On Monday 07 February 2011 10:10:13 Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > > The discussion seemed to have petered out without a real decision, so > > > > here's a really concrete proposal: > > > > > > * Let's make a monthly calligra snapshot that's advertised as

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-07 Thread Yue Liu
agreed. On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:56 PM, C. Boemann wrote: > On Monday 07 February 2011 10:10:13 Boudewijn Rempt wrote: >> The discussion seemed to have petered out without a real decision, so >> here's a really concrete proposal: >> >> * Let's make a monthly calligra snapshot that's advertised as

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-07 Thread C. Boemann
On Monday 07 February 2011 10:10:13 Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > The discussion seemed to have petered out without a real decision, so > here's a really concrete proposal: > > * Let's make a monthly calligra snapshot that's advertised as reasonably > stable and full of you-need-to-try-this goodness un

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-07 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
The discussion seemed to have petered out without a real decision, so here's a really concrete proposal: * Let's make a monthly calligra snapshot that's advertised as reasonably stable and full of you-need-to-try-this goodness until we are at a point where we can start a real release schedule

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Cyrille Berger Skott
On Wednesday 02 February 2011, todd rme wrote: > That is fine once we have an initial "main" release, but in my opinion > you made a clear commitment to support koffice 2.3 until then. I > think abandoning koffice 2.3 now would be a P.R. disaster. First, it > could easily be portrayed as spiteful

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread todd rme
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:31 AM, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: >> But as a user, I expect to be able to update to either a new version with >> new  features and possibly also new bugs or a more stable release with no >> new features but also definit

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Cyrille Berger Skott
On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: > Do you have any thoughts > on when to interrupt this scheme and go to X releases per year (4 is not > yet decided)? When Calligra is user-ready :) So in about 6 to 8 monthes. -- Cyrille Berger Skott

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Elvis Stansvik
2011/2/2 C. Boemann : > On Wednesday 02 February 2011 10:34:30 Pierre Stirnweiss wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: >> > On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: >> > > Do you plan to make real, i.e. not previews, of Krita in the mean time? >> > >> > The >>

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: > While this is true, the Linux distros work the same way. I think we should > ask > the packagers first what they think of the idea. I think packaging is mostly automated these days. It'll be possible, though, that one or more of the distros will pick a

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Inge Wallin
On Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:26:10 Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: > > I may have misunderstood, but if I understood correctly I'm very sorry to > > have to say that I hate this. The reason is that it is a > > developer-centric way to work rather tha

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Cyrille Berger Skott
On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: > But as a user, I expect to be able to update to either a new version with > new features and possibly also new bugs or a more stable release with no > new features but also definitely less bugs. It is temporary. Until we have reached a user ready

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: > I may have misunderstood, but if I understood correctly I'm very sorry to > have > to say that I hate this. The reason is that it is a developer-centric way to > work rather than a user-centric. > > I'm sure it will be very ego-boosting for u

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread C. Boemann
On Wednesday 02 February 2011 11:08:56 Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > On Wednesday 02 February 2011, C. Boemann wrote: > > Calligra Suite 2.3 Stable snapshot 201103 > > For packagers we would need a proper version number. One that is lower than > the next stable, and bigger than the previous one. s

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Cyrille Berger Skott
On Wednesday 02 February 2011, C. Boemann wrote: > Calligra Suite 2.3 Stable snapshot 201103 For packagers we would need a proper version number. One that is lower than the next stable, and bigger than the previous one. -- Cyrille Berger Skott ___ call

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Inge Wallin
On Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:34:30 Pierre Stirnweiss wrote: > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > > On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: > > > Do you plan to make real, i.e. not previews, of Krita in the mean time? > > > > The > > > > > reason I ask is th

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread C. Boemann
On Wednesday 02 February 2011 10:47:40 Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > On Wednesday 02 February 2011, C. Boemann wrote: > > I like this very much, both now and as the future way of releasing. > > > > i would assume our first release would then be: > > > > Calligra Suite 2.3 Stable snapshot 201103 > > I

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wednesday 02 February 2011, C. Boemann wrote: > I like this very much, both now and as the future way of releasing. > > i would assume our first release would then be: > > Calligra Suite 2.3 Stable snapshot 201103 > I was rather hoping for a February release... -- Boudewijn Rempt | http:/

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread C. Boemann
On Wednesday 02 February 2011 10:34:30 Pierre Stirnweiss wrote: > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > > On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: > > > Do you plan to make real, i.e. not previews, of Krita in the mean time? > > > > The > > > > > reason I ask is that

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Pierre Stirnweiss wrote: > On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > > > On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: > > > > > Do you plan to make real, i.e. not previews, of Krita in the mean time? > > The > > > reason I ask is that I wonder w

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > > We have to plan branching rules for this, or is tagging the master our > > way (+feature branches)? Whatever works for you. > I wanted to discuss this at the sprint :) :-). But t

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Cyrille Berger Skott
On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > Are you sure about the deps? I am fairly sure that we still compile against > Qt 4.6 and KDE 4.5 -- maybe even 4.4. yes it does. The build bot compiles calligra with Qt4.6 and KDE 4.4. (so does some debian users :) ). -- Cyrille Berger Sko

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Pierre Stirnweiss
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: > > > Do you plan to make real, i.e. not previews, of Krita in the mean time? > The > > reason I ask is that I wonder which Linux distros are going to package > the > > previews and how. >

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Cyrille Berger Skott
On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > We have to plan branching rules for this, or is tagging the master our > way (+feature branches)? Whatever works for you. I wanted to discuss this at the sprint :) My idea was to have feature branches. And trying to have feature branches hav

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 2 February 2011 10:12, Inge Wallin wrote: > On Wednesday, February 02, 2011 09:35:00 Boudewijn Rempt wrote: >> Hi, >> >> With the removal of kexi, krita and kplato from the koffice.org website, >> I'm reluctant to continue having krita released as part of KOffice 2.3.x. >> In fact, even though

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Jaroslaw Staniek wrote: > On 2 February 2011 10:05, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > > Only problem is that it would not really help users that would most likely > > have to be satisfied with koffice 2.3 until we release something labeled > > stable. > > I also see som

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Inge Wallin wrote: > Do you plan to make real, i.e. not previews, of Krita in the mean time? The > reason I ask is that I wonder which Linux distros are going to package the > previews and how. I think that (after a bit of cleanup), Calligra master contains a sta

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 2 February 2011 10:05, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > Only problem is that it would not really help users that would most likely > have to be satisfied with koffice 2.3 until we release something labeled > stable. I also see something related to the recent thread about minimal Qt dependencies.

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On Wednesday 02 February 2011, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > Only problem is that it would not really help users that would most likely > have to be satisfied with koffice 2.3 until we release something labeled > stable. Well, that's why I stressed that master is quite stable -- and with a bit m

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Inge Wallin
On Wednesday, February 02, 2011 09:35:00 Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > Hi, > > With the removal of kexi, krita and kplato from the koffice.org website, > I'm reluctant to continue having krita released as part of KOffice 2.3.x. > In fact, even though I'm fairly sure that giving up maintainance of > KOf

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Jaroslaw Staniek
On 2 February 2011 09:35, Boudewijn Rempt wrote: > Hi, > > With the removal of kexi, krita and kplato from the koffice.org website, I'm > reluctant to continue having krita released as part of KOffice 2.3.x. In > fact, even though I'm fairly sure that giving up maintainance of KOffice 2.3 > is

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Yue Liu
how about keep up two release branches, 2.4 and 3.0 snapshot? On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Cyrille Berger Skott wrote: > Only problem is that it would not really help users that would most likely > have to be satisfied with koffice 2.3 until we release something labeled > stable. > > -- > Cyri

Re: release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Cyrille Berger Skott
Only problem is that it would not really help users that would most likely have to be satisfied with koffice 2.3 until we release something labeled stable. -- Cyrille Berger Skott ___ calligra-devel mailing list calligra-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde

release schedule proposal

2011-02-02 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
Hi, With the removal of kexi, krita and kplato from the koffice.org website, I'm reluctant to continue having krita released as part of KOffice 2.3.x. In fact, even though I'm fairly sure that giving up maintainance of KOffice 2.3 is exactly that TZ wanted to achieve, I don't think we should pu