Op Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:45:10 -0500
schreef "David C. Rankin" :
> no /usr/share/fonts/TTF directory. I had a /usr/share/fonts/truetype
> directory so I just softlinked the missing TTF to truetype to get rid
> to the error on startx. startx liked the solution.
Softlinking is just patching the syste
Listmates,
Coming from SuSE, I'm used to /etc/profile sourcing ~/.bashrc. I was
scratching my head as to why my .bashrc wasn't being read when I would ssh into
the Arch Linux box. Looking at the Arch /etc/profile it seems parts come from
SuSE, but not the part about also sourcing ~/.bashrc
David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
Coming from SuSE, I'm used to /etc/profile sourcing ~/.bashrc. I was
scratching my head as to why my .bashrc wasn't being read when I would ssh into
the Arch Linux box. Looking at the Arch /etc/profile it seems parts come from
SuSE, but not the part abou
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:37 AM, David C. Rankin <
drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
> Listmates,
>
>Coming from SuSE, I'm used to /etc/profile sourcing ~/.bashrc. I was
> scratching my head as to why my .bashrc wasn't being read when I would ssh
> into
> the Arch Linux box. Looking a
Alessandro Doro wrote:
> Why don't you post the content of your .xinitrc?
>
That's the issue, I don't have an .xinitrc. Could you post a "go by" from a
working install?
> Are you trying to launch /opt/kde/bin/startkde from the shell?
> startkde has to be launched within a X display.
> For exampl
>
> That's the issue, I don't have an .xinitrc. Could you post a "go by" from a
> working install?
>
Beginners guide is a very useful guide, for me ;):
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners_Guide#Prepare_for_the_test_by_configuring_.7E.2F.xinitrc
Wiki for .xinitrc
http://wiki.archlinux.o
David C. Rankin wrote:
Alessandro Doro wrote:
Why don't you post the content of your .xinitrc?
That's the issue, I don't have an .xinitrc. Could you post a "go by" from a
working install?
Are you trying to launch /opt/kde/bin/startkde from the shell?
startkde has to be launched within a X d
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
> David C. Rankin wrote:
> \> OK, I must be suffering from a cranal rectal inversion. I'm
> missing something
>> basic that must be right in front of my nose.
>>
>> Currently, kdm is running:
>>
>> [18:22 archangel:/etc/X11/xinit] # ps ax | grep kdm
>>
>> 830 ?
Vincent Van Houtte wrote:
> Op Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:45:10 -0500
> schreef "David C. Rankin" :
>
>> no /usr/share/fonts/TTF directory. I had a /usr/share/fonts/truetype
>> directory so I just softlinked the missing TTF to truetype to get rid
>> to the error on startx. startx liked the solution.
>
>
2009/4/23 David C. Rankin
>
>Damn that is a good looking desktop!! Woohoo! Success!
>
>Only 1 caveat, ksplash caused a signal 11 SIGSEGV, no backtrace
> because gdb
> wasn't found. I guess I need to install it.
>
>Cool -- somebody else sets menu hiding as default for konso
David C. Rankin wrote:
>
> Also, why does my kde3 install have the kde4 look and feel?? It has the
> dull
> grey window decor on all apps?? I'm just wondering if this is a side effect of
> loading k9copy and it pulling in the kde4 runtime base as a dependency. What
> say the gurus?
>
David C. Rankin wrote:
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
Try this:
* kill the kdm instance (if any)
* kill the X instance (if any)
You should now be at a command line.
Instead of starting everything using "startx", use "/etc/rc.d/kdm start".
If that doesn't work, pls post back the xorg log.
DR
W
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Guilherme M. Nogueira
wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote:
>
>> pacman cares because pacman will try it's hardest to never ever break
>> your system unless you say so. If pacman has no knowledge of files in
>> your system, it'd be amazing
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Jan de Groot wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 22:48 +0200, JM wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I noticed that libsoup in [testing] depends on gconf, is that really
>> necessary? Libsoup is a dependency for some desktop-agnostic applications
>> such as Midori (through its depe
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 17:17 +0200, JM wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Jan de Groot wrote:
> > On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 22:48 +0200, JM wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I noticed that libsoup in [testing] depends on gconf, is that really
> >> necessary? Libsoup is a dependency for some desktop-
So this explains the reporter mishaps perfectly then. They take your
e-mails, freely change them, and then write their articles :)
-Andrei Thorp
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Aaron Griffin wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Guilherme M. Nogueira
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:0
Listmates,
Success, first email from the new arch box on kde3 with opera! The issue
I have is that every time kde starts, ksplash crashes with a SIGSEGV (11)
message. Is this an easy fix? Thanks!
--
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
Rankin Law Firm, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 7
>
>> Lastly, are there any Arch Linux specific gui tools I should be
>> aware of? Like
>> for package config, etc..
>
>
> Get to know the AUR, abs, and the makepkg tool. You'll be using makepkg a
> lot, as there's a pretty sizable number of packages in Arch that the devs
> don't maintain in
David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
Success, first email from the new arch box on kde3 with opera! The
issue I have is that every time kde starts, ksplash crashes with a
SIGSEGV (11) message. Is this an easy fix? Thanks!
Dunno. Doesn't happen to me. Try searching arch forums, kdemod fo
On Thursday 23 April 2009 14:48:27 Vincent Schumaker wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 8:37 AM, David C. Rankin <
>
> drankina...@suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
> > Listmates,
> >
> >Coming from SuSE, I'm used to /etc/profile sourcing ~/.bashrc. I
> > was scratching my head as to why my .bashrc
On Thursday 23 April 2009 17:37:19 David C. Rankin wrote:
Hello David,
> Listmates,
>
> Success, first email from the new arch box on kde3 with opera! The issue
> I have is that every time kde starts, ksplash crashes with a SIGSEGV (11)
> message. Is this an easy fix? Thanks!
I think the b
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
Success, first email from the new arch box on kde3 with opera! The
issue I have is that every time kde starts, ksplash crashes with a
SIGSEGV (11) message. Is this an easy fix? Thanks!
Dunno. Doesn't happen to me. Try searc
> What I do is:
> ln -s ~/.bashrc ~/.bash_profile
>
> To always have the same settings
Possibly a bad idea. If you only use your .bashrc to store a couple
variables, that'll get you by. If you're actually using your .bashrc /
.zshrc / whatever, that doesn't make sense to do. For example, by
.zshrc
Listmates,
I'm really impressed with Arch! After a little teething to get kde up and
running, it was time to install compiz-fusion. Before the install, I
copied my compiz config from my opensuse install and my emerald themes by
copying ~/.config and ~/.emerald to my home directory in the A
I made this Wiki Page and 3G works here
.
--
Lucas Saliés Brum
Linux User #456043
http://sistematico.org
Felipe Tanus escreveu:
> 2009/4/19 Maurício
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Here in Brazil (as probably in everywhere
>> else) a few cell phone companies are offering
>> wireless internet access through a U
On Thursday 23 April 2009 17:58:11 Andrei Thorp wrote:
> > What I do is:
> > ln -s ~/.bashrc ~/.bash_profile
> >
> > To always have the same settings
>
> Possibly a bad idea. If you only use your .bashrc to store a couple
> variables, that'll get you by. If you're actually using your .bashrc /
> .z
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
> David C. Rankin wrote:
>> David Rosenstrauch wrote:
>
> DR
>
Thanks, DR
This message is going in my Arch-Saved toolbox
Hopefully soon I'll be providing some much needed payback to newer list
members here as well. I haven't checked lately, but a prio
Andrei Thorp wrote:
>
> There are a couple GUI pacman frontends[1], but honestly, I can't
> really see the value. The CLI for pacman is excellent.
> I also like pkg tools, which has useful stuff like pkgfile. pkgfile is
> an add-on that lets you find "which package provides this file". For
> examp
Default is import variables, not same file under symlink, with default
you can add your user variables, and with symlink you dont.
> That is by default:
>
> cat /etc/skel/.bash_profile
> . $HOME/.bashrc
>
> But for some reason it doesn't work, I never had problem with a sym link.
David C. Rankin wrote:
and you have your screenshot:
http://nirvana.3111skyline.com/download/screenshots/archlinux/archlinux1-800.jpg
Thank you to all who have help me stumble through getting to this
point. All in all, setup has been a breeze on Arch (the fumbling around
getting kde go
Tobias Powalowski wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 schrieb Damjan Georgievski:
>> What is the policy for Udev rules in ArchLinux?
>>
>> There are 2 places where udev rules can be placed, /lib/udev/rules.d/
>> and /etc/udev/rules.d/.
>> Now, I think the /lib/ directory should be only for the rules
On Thursday 23 April 2009 18:21:44 Lucas Saliés Brum wrote:
> Default is import variables, not same file under symlink, with default
> you can add your user variables, and with symlink you dont.
>
> > That is by default:
> >
> > cat /etc/skel/.bash_profile
> > . $HOME/.bashrc
> >
> > But for some r
Vincent Schumaker wrote:
>
> David,
>
> Bash won't source ~/.bashrc unless it's a login shell. Try
> creating/editing ~/.bash_profile. Check the "Startup Scripts" section in
> the bash entry of Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bash
Yes,
That why if you source the ~/.bashr
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:47:08 -0500, Bram Schoenmakers
wrote:
On Thursday 23 April 2009 17:37:19 David C. Rankin wrote:
Hello David,
Listmates,
Success, first email from the new arch box on kde3 with opera! The
issue
I have is that every time kde starts, ksplash crashes with a SIGSEGV
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 11:22 AM, David C. Rankin
wrote:
> Tobias Powalowski wrote:
>> Am Mittwoch 22 April 2009 schrieb Damjan Georgievski:
>>> What is the policy for Udev rules in ArchLinux?
>>>
>>> There are 2 places where udev rules can be placed, /lib/udev/rules.d/
>>> and /etc/udev/rules.d/.
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
> David C. Rankin wrote:
>> and you have your screenshot:
>>
>> http://nirvana.3111skyline.com/download/screenshots/archlinux/archlinux1-800.jpg
>>
>>
>> Thank you to all who have help me stumble through getting to this
>> point. All in all, setup has been a breeze on
Jordy van Wolferen wrote:
> On Thursday 23 April 2009 18:21:44 Lucas Saliés Brum wrote:
>> Default is import variables, not same file under symlink, with default
>> you can add your user variables, and with symlink you dont.
>>
>>> That is by default:
>>>
>>> cat /etc/skel/.bash_profile
>>> . $HOME
Aaron Griffin wrote:
> Actually, that's not the same. I have a suspicion suse's udev is far
> older, but the dir we're looking at should be /lib/udev/rules.d vs
> /etc/udev/rules.d
>
Ahah!, Your right Aaron. I missed the /lib/udev/'rules.d'. I know it has been
that way for a while, at least sinc
David C. Rankin wrote:
Thanks Bram, DR,
I've attached the backtrace from the kplash crash:
ksplash.kcrash (3.4k)
Dunno ... nothing jumps out at me.
DR
David C. Rankin wrote:
So... continuing the story, I had heard about Arch some time ago as
being a
Slackware derivative, and I had always planned on trying it. So from
distrowatch, I went to their top-ten, found slackware, then looked for Arch,
found it, downloaded the .iso, and wound up
David C. Rankin wrote:
> That why if you source the ~/.bashrc file in /etc/profile, you always
> get your
> bashrc sourced regardless of whether it is a login or interactive shell.
/etc/profile isn't loaded by bash only and you really shouldn't source shell
specific stuff there
Andrei Thorp wrote:
> If you want to have "the same settings" in both cases, just have your
> .bashrc source your .bash_profile.
IMHO the only right way.
for all others - put that line into your ~/.bash_profile
[ -f ~/.bashrc ] && . ~/.bashrc
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 13:17 -0400, David Rosenstrauch wrote:
> David C. Rankin wrote:
> > So... continuing the story, I had heard about Arch some time ago as
> > being a
> > Slackware derivative, and I had always planned on trying it. So from
> > distrowatch, I went to their top-ten, found sla
Listmates,
I broke it! Was up and running in kde3 just fine, so I thought I would
make
sure all was good and rebooted. The box booted beautifully and the Archlinux
kdm screen nicely appeared and I thought I was ready to rock and roll, but when
I grabbed the mouse - it didn't move?? Then I
On Thursday 23 April 2009 19:29:30 David C. Rankin wrote:
Hello David,
> I thought I was ready to rock and
> roll, but when I grabbed the mouse - it didn't move?? Then I tried typing
> my pw, and no characters (or dots) appeared? The I tried ctrl+alt+backspace
> to kill X -- no joy. Then ctrl+alt
On Thursday 23 April 2009 18:35:04 David C. Rankin wrote:
Hello David,
> Thanks Bram, DR,
>
> I've attached the backtrace from the kplash crash:
>
> ksplash.kcrash (3.4k)
Thank you. It seems this is a different problem than I encountered the other
day.
This looks like a splash specific p
> Make sure to start D-Bus and HAL before you start KDM. In rc.conf:
>
> DAEMONS=( ... dbus hal kdm ... )
>
> Kind regards,
>
> --
> Bram Schoenmakers
Don't put "dbus" in your DAEMONS, hal starts dbus for you.
>From the Arch wiki page on HAL: "When HAL initializes it will check
for the presence o
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Jan de Groot wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 17:17 +0200, JM wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Jan de Groot wrote:
>> > On Mon, 2009-03-30 at 22:48 +0200, JM wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I noticed that libsoup in [testing] depends on gconf, is that rea
Jan de Groot wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 13:17 -0400, David Rosenstrauch wrote:
>> David C. Rankin wrote:
>>> So... continuing the story, I had heard about Arch some time ago as
>>> being a
>>> Slackware derivative, and I had always planned on trying it. So from
>>> distrowatch, I went to t
David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
I broke it! Was up and running in kde3 just fine, so I thought I would
make
sure all was good and rebooted. The box booted beautifully and the Archlinux
kdm screen nicely appeared and I thought I was ready to rock and roll, but when
I grabbed the mouse
For fun statistics from the distrowatch list:
...
12 Arch624
13 Slackware 524
...
22 Gentoo 358
...
77 CRUX97
Bitches please. Arch own ya'll ;)
-Andrei Thorp
I'd say the default skel one is kind of bad too. You can probably even
get into security issues doing that.
-AT
Bram Schoenmakers wrote:
> On Thursday 23 April 2009 19:29:30 David C. Rankin wrote:
>
> Hello David,
>
>> I thought I was ready to rock and
>> roll, but when I grabbed the mouse - it didn't move?? Then I tried typing
>> my pw, and no characters (or dots) appeared? The I tried ctrl+alt+backspace
Also, forgot to mention: look at pacman-color for, well. Yeah.
Anyway, yep. I've seen a lot of posts from you here already. You ask
some questions that perhaps could have been avoided by reading more on
the wiki, but you're kind and positive so I think people don't mind.
Makes us feel good answeri
I think I might have mentioned this to you before, but if you think
your boot speed is fast compared with SUSE now, put some @s in front
of some of the things in your boot process. Try:
DAEMONS=(syslog-ng network hal @sshd @crond @avahi-daemon @mysqld @samba
@sensors kdm3)
Note:
- I removed netf
On Thursday 23 April 2009 20:31:45 Andrei Thorp wrote:
> "When HAL initializes it will check
> for the presence of D-Bus and load it automatically. If you have dbus
> in your list of daemons, remove it, since it can cause problems."
>
> -AT
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know what problems co
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 21:37 +0200, Bram Schoenmakers wrote:
> On Thursday 23 April 2009 20:31:45 Andrei Thorp wrote:
>
> > "When HAL initializes it will check
> > for the presence of D-Bus and load it automatically. If you have dbus
> > in your list of daemons, remove it, since it can cause proble
Bram Schoenmakers wrote:
> On Thursday 23 April 2009 18:35:04 David C. Rankin wrote:
>
> Hello David,
>
>> Thanks Bram, DR,
>>
>> I've attached the backtrace from the kplash crash:
>>
>> ksplash.kcrash (3.4k)
>
> Thank you. It seems this is a different problem than I encountered the other
Listmates,
Is there a better way to handle optional dependencies than just manually
creating a list and checking it against the current installed packages to see
if you need to install them before issuing the sync command and having some of
the packages reinstalled?
Basically, aft
Andrei Thorp wrote:
> Also, forgot to mention: look at pacman-color for, well. Yeah.
>
> Anyway, yep. I've seen a lot of posts from you here already. You ask
> some questions that perhaps could have been avoided by reading more on
> the wiki, but you're kind and positive so I think people don't mi
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:44 PM, David C. Rankin
wrote:
>
> So I then do:
>
> for i in gutenprint libwebkit poppler-glib alsa-lib cinepaint java-runtime
> libcups gconf nss pstoedit; do pacman -Q $i; done
>
I would go for:
pacman --asdeps --needed gutenprint libwebkit poppler-glib alsa-li
> I would go for:
>
> pacman --asdeps --needed gutenprint libwebkit poppler-glib alsa-lib
> cinepaint java-runtime
> libcups gconf nss pstoedit
>
Oops, forgot the -S
pacman --asdeps --needed -S
--
Malformed message exception
Am Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:11:33 -0300
schrieb "Guilherme M. Nogueira" :
>
> pacman --asdeps --needed -S
>
That's the same method I use in such cases. But what always bugged me
about it is that packages installed that way will show up as unneeded
deps when using pacman -Qdt (only if they are not n
Like I said, nothing to feel bad about. People seem more than happy to
answer (I sure am) and you're nice.
Cheers,
-AT
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:50 PM, David C. Rankin
wrote:
> Andrei Thorp wrote:
>> Also, forgot to mention: look at pacman-color for, well. Yeah.
>>
>> Anyway, yep. I've seen a l
Alright. Perhaps if we're in agreement on this point, it should be
removed from the wiki that this can "cause problems". Honestly, I'm
not sure what these problems could be, I was just going as per advice.
Regardless, nice to keep my DAEMONS list a bit shorter.
Cheers,
-AT
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 a
Andrei Thorp wrote:
> Alright. Perhaps if we're in agreement on this point, it should be
> removed from the wiki that this can "cause problems". Honestly, I'm
> not sure what these problems could be, I was just going as per advice.
> Regardless, nice to keep my DAEMONS list a bit shorter.
>
> Chee
Hi,
This is a set of draft scripts that I use to find/extract some data of
ELF files from packages.
For example:
* Find all packages that needed inexistent shared objects because a
soname bump in libraries.
* Generate a report for all packages per repo that in case of soname
bump , needs to be re
Listmates,
After installing kde3 with "pacman -S kdemod3-complete", I was
rearranging and
ordering the kde menu with 'kmenuedit' and ran across a number of duplicate
entries created during the install. The following isn't a complete list, but
probably catches 80-90% of the duplicate entri
I've got a question for everyone:
Why is it that kdemod is not cleanly packaged in arch linux? I mean, I try to
install kdemod-extragear group but I can't beacuse there are conflicts:
packages like kdemod-extragear-bespin, kdemod-extragear-bespin-svn, and
kdemod-extragear-bespin-svn are all par
On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 23:23 -0700, Alexander Kotlerman wrote:
> I've got a question for everyone:
>
> Why is it that kdemod is not cleanly packaged in arch linux? I mean, I try to
> install kdemod-extragear group but I can't beacuse there are conflicts:
> packages like kdemod-extragear-bespin, k
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:23:11 -0700 (PDT)
Alexander Kotlerman wrote:
> I've got a question for everyone:
>
> Why is it that kdemod is not cleanly packaged in arch linux? I mean,
> I try to install kdemod-extragear group but I can't beacuse there are
> conflicts: packages like kdemod-extragear-bes
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