Re: Spamassassin, keep feeding messages for bayes?
on Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:19:01PM +0100, Benedict Verheyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > my Spamassassin's bayes stuff finally kicked it as i now see bayes_00 > and similar stuff in the headers. Do i need to keep feeding spam and > ham to sa-learn? Not necessarially (to contradict everyone else's advice)...but it doesn't hurt. SA has an "autolearn" feature, where mail scoring above 6, and below 0.1, will be "autolearned" as spam and ham. That is, the Baysian classifier will train on these mails. I've set up a mailbox "spam-learn" where I dump any spam which slips past SA, and a cron job to run 'sa-learn' over this every 30 minutes. While I could set up equivalent 'ham-learn' and 'sa-forget' folders, I haven't had the need as yet. The effect is that I can run spamassassin, auto-train off most of the mail and explicitly train based on any false positives or negatives which slip through. Overall effectveness is quite high. Design is simple. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Bush/Cheney '04: Four More Wars! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: k3b 1.0 ?
email the k3b maintainer On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 09:39, Joan Tur wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hallo! > > I'd like to try the DVD burning capability of version 1.0 of k3b... do you > know when is it going to be in SID ? 8-? > > Thanks ;) > - -- > Joan Tur. Eivissa-Spain > Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Yahoo & AIM: quini2k > www.ClubIbosim.org > Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE/tT2Cok8j9RhtetwRAtL3AJ46v6uhpcYlIaPO/m/uU9Cfq1wTLQCghcbA > eixJswA2KeCyKo+Ur2VWmQw= > =TaWz > -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- .''`. Paul William : :' :Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation Help: SATA Drive
On Saturday 15 November 2003 02:15, Justin Burke wrote: > Hi All, > > I could use some help getting Debian installed on a new machine with a > SATA drive. I've downloaded CD images for both sarge and sid, and both > installation methods hang at the same point: > > "Loading kernel modules > > Detected module 'ide-probe-mod' for 'Linux IDE probe driver'" > > I have reason to believe that the system is hanging because of the SATA > drive. I think that I need to use a 2.6.0 kernel. Is this right? How do > I create an installation CD with a different kernel? Hi, I recently installed a debian on a SATA machine and I also had problems booting a installation the normal way. (Either debian and gentoo installation had problems detecting the drive). But I noticed the most recent knoppix cd whould boot and detect the hardware in a 'normal' fashion. So I'd suggest doing an install booted from a knoppix cd. hth Elie De Brauwer -- http://www.de-brauwer.be -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where can I get koffice
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:17:27AM -0900, Greg Madden wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Friday 14 November 2003 10:52 am, you wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:45:10AM -0900, Greg Madden wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > On Friday 14 November 2003 10:34 am, you wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:57:28AM -0900, Greg Madden wrote: > > > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > > > > > On Friday 14 November 2003 01:04 am, Mihalis I. Tsoukalos wrote: > > > > > > Dear list, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am looking for koffice for KDE 3.1.4. > > > > > > Can you please give me the official address for Debian woody? > > > > > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > Mihalis. > > > > > > > > > > There isn't any official Koffice packages. Here is a list of > > > > > mirrors that have Woody packages. > > > > > > > > > > http://download.kde.org/download.php > > > > > > > > I am sorry, but I cannot find the proper line to put in > > > > sources.list in order to install koffice 1.2.1. > > > > > > > > The last try was: > > > > > > > > deb > > > > ftp://download.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/koffice-1.2.1/Debian/woody > > > > stable main > > > > > > > > Please help me if you can. > > > > TIA, > > > > Mihalis. > > > > > > Try this. Note the dot, slash at the end. > > > deb > > > ftp://download.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/koffice-1.2.1/Debian/woody ./ > > > > Dear Greg, > > no luck. > > > > Hit http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/contrib Sources > > Hit http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/contrib Release > > Hit http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/non-free Sources > > Get:1 ftp://download.kde.org ./ Release > > Hit http://non-us.debian.org stable/non-US/non-free Release > > Ign ftp://download.kde.org ./ Release > > Reading Package Lists... Done > > Building Dependency Tree... Done > > racoon:~# > > > > > > racoon:~# apt-cache show koffice > > Package: koffice > > Version: 1:1.2.1-0woody1 > snip > > This package provides all the components of KOffice. > > > > Package: koffice > > Priority: optional > > Section: x11 > > Installed-Size: 48 > > Maintainer: Ben Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Architecture: i386 > > Version: 1:1.1.1-7 > snip > > racoon:~# > > > > > > What else can I do? > > > > TIA, > > Mihalis. > > I am not clear on the issue. It looks like you have Koffice 1.2.1 > available. Have you tried to install it ? I have tried installing it, but it seems that it tried to install the old version which causes a conflict. many thanks, Mihalis. -- 09:29:23 up 1 day, 13:47, 2 users, load average: 0.03, 0.10, 0.05 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Preventing Forkbombs
on Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 02:56:37PM -0800, Tom ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> How does one prevent a non-root user from locking up the system with:
>
> perl -e "while(1){fork}"
>
> System seems to become utterly unresponsive. (It's a loaded question, I
> know.) Please no answers like: "don't do that" or "working by design".
/etc/security/limits.conf
Depending on your release, 'man 5 limits' or 'man 5 limits.conf'.
Set a maximum number of user processes and/or files and/or memory for
user(s) in question. This can be particularly useful, say, for avoiding
system thrash when innundated by thousands of viral mails all needing
filtering by Spamassassin.
Peace.
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A guide to GNU/Linux partitioning:
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Re: unsubscribe
on Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 08:21:06PM +0100, L.F. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > The 12th of November Greg Folkert <[EMAIL PROTECTED] told me "READ THIS > CAREFULLY. PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY.TO UNSUBSCRIBE TO THE DEBIAN USER > MAILING LIST:SEND and E-MAIL to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] THAT > MESSAGE ONLY PUT:unsubscribe" First of all thanks. Now the 11th of November I > sen this: "unsubscribe If you're having problems unsubscribing from a debian mailing list. First step: keep a record of what you've attempted and what is or is not working. Note that I'm just another list member, not an official member of Debian.org. This message does not reflect any official viewpoint or policy of Debian or Software in the Public Interest. - *READ THE FOOTER* There are simple unsubscription instructions on every mail that gets sent to the list. Follow these directions. Note that if your email address or delivery has changed, this may not work. Most lists have a similar informational message. - *IF THIS DOESN'T WORK*: Go to the online list unsubscription page at http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/unsubscribe Check off the lists you want to unsubscribe from, AND supply your email address. You will be sent a confirmation email (this protects you from being unsubscribed, against your will, by a third party). - If you are still receiving list mail, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note that Debian is a volunteer organization, and it can take a while for your mail to be responded to. Allow a day or two. There have been historic issues with people not getting appropriate response in a short period, please bear with us. - If you're still receiving list mail, escalate with a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This will reach the current Debian Leader. If *** ALL *** of these attempts are unsuccessful, send a post to the mailing list with the following information. This may not get you unsubscribed (assume the listmaster is not subscribed to the list in question), but it may give other people information which can be helpful in identifying your problem: - Steps you've taken to unsubscribe. There are far too many unsubscribe posts sent to list by those who simply fail to read instructions. These tend to be poorly received by regulars (if not simply automatically deleted). - Responses, messages, error output, or anything else you've received in response to your attempts to unsubscribe. - Email headers from your list mail. There's a chance you're getting mail forwarded from an old address, that your mail is being rewritten by your ISP's or company's email system, or that you're being sent mail by way of a relay operated by a third party. IN THIS LAST CASE, THERE IS NOTHING ANYONE AT DEBIAN.ORG CAN DO TO HELP YOU. You will have to take up the issue with the third-party relay, or block mail from this source to your address. A sample of email headers are included at the end of this message. Some additional considerations as you try to get unsubscribed: - As stated, Debian's a volunteer organization. It tends to work well, though some things are occasionally slow. List unsubscriptions have been a noted issue over the years. This mail is one attempt to clarify the issue. - Try to get yourself unsubscribed following directions *first*. There's little anyone on list can do other than give advice, and most of that advice is in this email. - Provide relevant information if you're posting to list. - Behave professionally. The importance of this cannot be overstated. At the very least, expect to find yourself permanently banned from the list you're abusive to, if not others. Past episodes of abusive or outrageous behavior have resulted in censure by ISP, loss of ISP accounts, loss of jobs, academic discipline (in the case of university accounts), etc. One notorious example includes a Psychology PhD. formerly engaged in research at Princeton University. His outburst resulted in email notifications to the Princeton's IT staff, his boss, the University President, and former colleagues. Similarly, threatening lawsuits, DMCA takedown requests, and other legal maneuvers are likely to result in your email address being added to ban lists on other email lists. An additional note on DMCA takedowns: you can add the "X-No-Archive: Yes" header to your email to prevent it from being included in (many) Net archives. Of course, those who feel that participation in a mailing list inherently dictates that the participation be public can add a filter rule to delete posts with such headers from their mailboxes. This is a quid pro quo exchange, and insisting on privacy in an inherently public exchange is a violation of norms to some. The header is also no protection against your post, email addr
Re: gcc problem - can't create executable
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:31:13PM -0600, Lucas Bergman said > "James W. Thompson, II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I am trying to build the mono runtime environment and get the > > message that the C compiler can't create executables...I have > > attached the configuration log file in case that will help any one > > in figuring out what may be going amiss... > > > > [ ... ] > > > > configure:2513: checking for C compiler default output > > configure:2516: gcc -DGC_LINUX_THREADS -DMONO_USE_EXC_TABLES -D_GNU_SOURCE > > -D_REENTRANT -fexceptions conftest.c >&5 > > /usr/bin/ld: cannot open crt1.o: No such file or directory > > Methinks you should install libc6-dev. Installing build-essentual will get you all the basic tools needed to build C and C++ executables. -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day:BLU-114/B Baranyi Defcon Europol UOP explosion USCODE M-14 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Step by Steps??
[Please wrap your lines! It makes it much easier to read, and thus more likely that you'll get a response. Anywhere between 70 and 80 is acceptable; 72 seems to be a nice value.] On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:26:22AM -0800, Jeffrey W. Pearson said > Does anyone have step by steps for setting up a LAMP environment with > Debian? Ive just moved from Red Hat to Debian. I don't seem to be able > to find the locations of certain files needed. Right now Im stuck at > trying to find the libphp4.so file. I compiled php from source and am > not finding that file. Install apache, php4, mysql-server and php4-mysql. That will give you all you need, from within the Debian package system. Also, you'll receive security updates instead of having to rebuild them all from source yourself when a flaw is found. -- Rob Weir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Do I look like I want a CC? Words of the day: Crowell Albanian Dateline Watergate keyhole Ermes signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: window manager recomendation
on Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 03:51:10AM +0200, Micha Feigin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hello, > > Hoping this won't turn into a flame war, I am looking for > recommendations for a window manager. I tried quiet a few but none seem > to fit the bill yet. > I need a window manager with the following > - As lite as possible on memory (I heavily stress my laptop so I don't > have much to spare). Outside of GNOME and KDE themselves, pretty much any WM should fit your bill. Fluxbox, Blackbox, WindowMaker, fvwm, icewm, and twm in particular are light and are/were designed for low-end hardware. For general information on window managers, I strongly recommend the "Window Managers For X" page: http://www.plig.org/xwinman/ > - Multiple desktops All of the above, excepting twm. Pretty much *any* WM gives you this capability. > - A pop up menu application (don't need a panel) that has support for > both the debian menus and a custom menu. Again: pretty much any WM has this capability. The Debian menu system is independent of WM and allows for user customization. In my case, I use WindowMaker, have replaced the default root menu with one of my own choosing, but have a hook back into the system Debian menus as well. > - Hotkeys (mainly for maximize/minimize/desktop switch) Again: pretty much any WM has this capability. WindowMaker's hotkey configuration is IMO particularly clean. > - multiple desktops Again: Again: Multiple multiple desktops desktops? ...or is it that you just really want this feature? ;-) Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Windows Refund Day II: fight for your right to refund http://www.windowsrefund.net/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing modem.
Alright, it doesn't look like we are getting very far, so I am going to throw in the way I would diagnose this issue. *sigh* pppd, this is about the best way I can think of to get things done. It's a little harsh, but nothing a good man page can't handle. I am including exerts from the pppd man page I am reading. Hopefully it will provide some insights on how to appropriately diagnose this issue. It is obvious that the problem with the modem is occuring on the software level, at least so far, as I assume you have installed it already and it has worked in other OSes. So we need to get the software messages coming from the dialers. Hopefully this will help. [Exert 1] EXAMPLES The following examples assume that the /etc/ppp/options file contains the auth option (as in the default /etc/ppp/options file in the ppp distribution). Probably the most common use of pppd is to dial out to an ISP. This can be done with a command such as pppd call isp where the /etc/ppp/peers/isp file is set up by the system administrator to contain something like this: ttyS0 19200 crtscts connect '/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/chat-isp' noauth In this example, we are using chat to dial the ISP's modem and go through any logon sequence required. The /etc/ppp/chat-isp file contains the script used by chat; it could for example contain something like this: ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO DIALTONE" ABORT "ERROR" ABORT "NO ANSWER" ABORT "BUSY" ABORT "Username/Password Incorrect" "" "at" OK "at&d0&c1" OK "atdt2468135" "name:" "^Umyuserid" "word:" "\qmypassword" "ispts" "\q^Uppp" "~-^Uppp-~" [End Exert 1] [Exert 2] DIAGNOSTICS Messages are sent to the syslog daemon using facility LOG_DAEMON. (This can be overriden by recompiling pppd with the macro LOG_PPP defined as the desired facility.) In order to see the error and debug messages, you will need to edit your /etc/syslog.conf file to direct the mes- sages to the desired output device or file. The debug option causes the contents of all control pack- ets sent or received to be logged, that is, all LCP, PAP, CHAP or IPCP packets. This can be useful if the PPP nego- tiation does not succeed or if authentication fails. If debugging is enabled at compile time, the debug option also causes other debugging messages to be logged. Debugging can also be enabled or disabled by sending a SIGUSR1 signal to the pppd process. This signal acts as a toggle. [End Exert 2] Nice Debian has provided sample scripts and such. pppconfig will also set up those scripts for you. What you need to do is to investigate those scripts, see what they are doing, then, once you know that, run pppd with pon or whatever you need to do, log it, and read the logs; in fact, send the logs to this list. Hopefully that will give us a much better idea of what is going on. Again, I also suggest that you try this on ttyS3 and ttyS4, as I think that ttyS4 is the modem, but I want to compare it to something else. pppconfig and pppd are the most reliable ways to work with your modem, and they will hopefully give us the most information, assuming they are configured right. That's where the man pages come in. Now, if I was in your situation, after I had those error logs, and knew exactly what was happening, I would take on the rest of things; but it's important to see exactly what's happening on the modem, not just if any sound comes out of it. If anyone has a better idea, let me know, because I would love to have an easier way of doing things next time around. :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 23:07, ben wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:14:38 -0800 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] > whatever about the rest, a theocracy in a century! bush has already made > public statements about how god instructed him to invade afghanistan and > iraq. what the hell happend to separation of church and state? on top of Tell you what: I won't interpret the German Constitution if you don't interpret the U.S. Constitution. Do you even know what "separation of church and state" means? Does it mean "government officials shall avoid religion at all costs", or does it mean "Congress shall make no law respecting an estab- lishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"? http://www.access.gpo.gov/congress/senate/constitution/amdt1.html http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am1 Yes, that's right: Jefferson didn't mean what we now understand "a wall of separation between Church and State" to mean. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA YODA: Code! Yes. A programmer's strength flows from code maintainability. But beware of Perl. Terse syntax... more than one way to do it...default variables. The dark side of code maintainability are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you when code you write. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???
Hello John L. Fjellstad (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > On Saturday 15 November 2003 01:42, Michael D Schleif wrote: >> I do not want exim, nor its ilk, on open port 25. >> >> I do want system mail (cron, error messages, &c.) to be delivered to >> root. >> >> Is exim required? >> >> If I uninstall exim, will system mail continue to be delivered? >> >> What is the Debian way to accomplish these goals? > > You don't need a MTA (like Exim) listening on port 25, to have it do > local > delivery. For instance, in qmail (which I'm familiar with), the > listener program is a separate program from the delivery mechanism > (don't know how it is in exim). In fact, exim doesn't have to be running at all to have local email delivered. Deinstalling however will cause dependency problems because packages like anacron, at, mailx and logrotate depend on MTA. best regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 Registered Linux User #267976 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ATI Radeon 9800 freezes after using X :1
if I run another instance of X the system freezes when I try to switch back to the first one (completely, does not respond to keyboard, mouse or network connections). This only happens if I have two monitors (VGA and DVI). Any ideas what's the problem? system: debian unstable kernel 2.4 21-ac4 intel D865PERL MB ATI Radeon 9800 + ATI Radeon drivers additional info: I had similar experience with GeForce FX 5600 Ultra card - after I connected another monitor (to DVI connector) the system would freeze after switching to another X server. possibly related problem: when I switch to text console and back to X the colors are screwed up (not all of them). when I run X :1 there are some error messages about not being able to initialize DRI (X :0 can initialize DRI without problems, openGL programs work): (II) fglrx(0): VisualConfigs initialized (EE) fglrx(0): Failed to initialize UMM driver. (EE) fglrx(0): [drm] failed to remove DRM signal handler (II) fglrx(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel DRIUnlock called when not locked (II) fglrx(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xf8987000 at 0x40028000 (WW) fglrx(0): *** (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! * (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) * (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO) * (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available* (WW) fglrx(0): * * (II) fglrx(0): FBADPhys: 0xd000 FBMappedSize: 0x0800 (II) fglrx(0): -- (II) fglrx(0): | panel native mode is 1920x1200 | (II) fglrx(0): -- TIA erik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???
> > On Saturday 15 November 2003 01:42, Michael D Schleif wrote: > >> I do not want exim, nor its ilk, on open port 25. Is there any reason why exim has to listen on all IP addresses by default? I think it would be reasonable to ask during eximconf whether or not one wants to listen on 127.0.0.1 only. Is it worth filing a wishlist bug? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anaconda, where's the beef?
on Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:05:59PM -0500, Fraser Campbell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Hi, > > Apologies since this isn't really a Debian question but does anyone > know where a person can download the anaconda port for Debian? I saw > the announcement a while back from Progeny but there were no links, > binaries, source or hints as to when they might make it available. > Perhaps they're waiting to get their public subversion server ready? > > I'm hoping the port includes the ability to kickstart Debian, that > would make it _very_ useful for me today. Good question. I just spent several minutes poking through the announcements, several package archives (both standard Debian archives, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=wnpp (ITP list), http://www.apt-get.org/, and the #debian IRC channel. Your best bet may be to approach Progeny or Ian Murdoch directly on this. ...and if you find out what the scoop is, please share! Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Remember Ed Curry! http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???
Hello Tom (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: >> > On Saturday 15 November 2003 01:42, Michael D Schleif wrote: >> >> I do not want exim, nor its ilk, on open port 25. > > Is there any reason why exim has to listen on all IP addresses by > default? I think it would be reasonable to ask during eximconf > whether or not one wants to listen on 127.0.0.1 only. > > Is it worth filing a wishlist bug? By default exim is not running in standalone mode. It is called by inetd, and as far as I know you /cannot/ tell inetd which interfaces it should listen to. To do so inetd would have to be replaced by xinetd. You can however control inetd through /etc/hosts.allow and /etc/hosts.deny. Or, of course change the default config to let it run in standalone mode. best regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 Registered Linux User #267976 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI Radeon 9800 freezes after using X :1
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:17:06 -0800 Erik Steffl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > when I run X :1 there are some error messages about not being able to > initialize DRI (X :0 can initialize DRI without problems, openGL > programs work): > > (II) fglrx(0): VisualConfigs initialized > (EE) fglrx(0): Failed to initialize UMM driver. > (EE) fglrx(0): [drm] failed to remove DRM signal handler > (II) fglrx(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel > DRIUnlock called when not locked > (II) fglrx(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xf8987000 at > 0x40028000 > (WW) fglrx(0): *** > (WW) fglrx(0): * DRI initialization failed! * > (WW) fglrx(0): * (maybe driver kernel module missing or bad) * > (WW) fglrx(0): * 2D acceleraton available (MMIO) * > (WW) fglrx(0): * no 3D acceleration available* > (WW) fglrx(0): * * > (II) fglrx(0): FBADPhys: 0xd000 FBMappedSize: 0x0800 > (II) fglrx(0): -- > (II) fglrx(0): | panel native mode is 1920x1200 | > (II) fglrx(0): -- That's quite normal since the second head is not 3D accelerated if you are not running that "extended desktop" configuration in which both heads are fed from the same framebuffer. I suggest you try disabling any acceleration (even 2D at first), don't load the DRI module or anything that might want to access the AGP bus and try again. From there on, you can re-enable the stuff again one by one (GLX is probably safe, but you never know). You might also want to ask the people at the Rage3D forums about that. They have a Linux forum with some smart and helpful participants. (http://www.rage3d.com) -- Got Backup? Jabber: Shadowdancer at jabber.fsinf.de pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Escape sequences displaying in man pages
Bill Marcum wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 06:18:13AM -0600, Curt Daugaard wrote: Hi, I'm running unstable and use the most package as pager for man pages. After an upgrade the color output broke and I see instead the raw escape sequences. Running update-alternatives, I noticed the pager was changed to less. I set it back to most, but that didn't help. Any help appreciated. Are you using the console or xterm, gnome-terminal, rxvt, etc.? What is the output of "echo $TERM" ? It happens at the console/virtual console and in xterm. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian based working distribution
Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see "debian-boot" list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no root access), Morphix (doesn't run on my system). Any others? O. Wyss -- See "http://wxguide.sourceforge.net/"; for ideas how to design your app. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:06, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:41, ScruLoose wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:09:27PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:35:20PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > > > > I don't think they will do so well with the number of guns you have > > > > > in the streets, bullets don't distinguish Ph degrees. > > > > > > > > PhDs and brains don't go hand-in-hand; part of being smart is knowing > > > > how to work within whatever cultural limitations you must; in the > > > > case of firearm-owning Americans, you just need to be smart enough > > > > not to not get on their bad side. Social engineering at its most > > > > useful. > > > > > > There are roughly 40M handguns in this country, and quite a number > > > of states have "right to carry concealed handgun" laws. If the > > > vast majority of people had such a low level of self-control, we > > > should see, for example, multiple Columbines[1] on a daily basis. > > > Since we don't, what conclusion can we draw from this? > > > > Well, when you look at the US figures on "firearm-related fatalities" > > being up in the tens of thousands per year... > > compared to (for example) Canada with a couple of hundred per year (and > > tight gun control laws, what a bizarre coincidence)... > > http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/994015/posts > > > > I realize that Canada has about one-tenth the population of USA, but > > that still gives you per-capita rates that say Americans are somewhere > > on the order of ten _times_ as likely to blow each other away. > > > > Does it take "multiple Columbines on a daily basis" to constitute a > > problem? > > Somewhere close to a hundred Americans blow each other away _per_day_ > > and you want this to lead me to the conclusion that things are okay? > > And... > - most are done with hot weapons > - most are "criminal-on-criminal" > > I'd rather not live in a nanny state, and take my chance, however > minimal they are, in a slightly more anarchic society. That's kinda a risky argument to rely on, since if accepted it inevitably leads to the question - why does the US have ten times as many homicidal criminals per capita, than other countries? Answers in the back of an envelope please, addressed to the Director-General, FBI, Washington (I guess he'd dearly like to know...) cr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian based working distribution
Have you perhaps tried Debian-stable or testing? Aaron Hsu On Saturday, November 15, 2003, at 04:42 AM, Otto Wyss wrote: Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see "debian-boot" list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no root access), Morphix (doesn't run on my system). Any others? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian based working distribution
Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see "debian-boot" list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no root access), Morphix (doesn't run on my system). Any others? O. Wyss -- See "http://wxguide.sourceforge.net/"; for ideas how to design your app. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: k3b 1.0 ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Dissabte 15 Novembre 2003 08:24, en Paul William va escriure: > email the k3b maintainer Already done so ;) > On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 09:39, Joan Tur wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hallo! > > > > I'd like to try the DVD burning capability of version 1.0 of k3b... do > > you know when is it going to be in SID ? 8-? > > > > Thanks ;) > > - -- > > Joan Tur. Eivissa-Spain > > Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Yahoo & AIM: quini2k > > www.ClubIbosim.org > > Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQE/tT2Cok8j9RhtetwRAtL3AJ46v6uhpcYlIaPO/m/uU9Cfq1wTLQCghcbA > > eixJswA2KeCyKo+Ur2VWmQw= > > =TaWz > > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > > .''`. Paul William > > : :' :Debian admin and user > > `. `'` > `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system - -- Joan Tur. Eivissa-Spain Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo & AIM: quini2k www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/tgwbok8j9RhtetwRArQFAJ9md+JEbguKkQRLe3O6hUnHh3iSTQCgobLe OGl5cPi2Q8CdEKmOxPDhuAI= =d+k8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Night mare to set day light savings time
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 07:11:10PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Colin Watson writes: > > $ cat /etc/debian_version > > 3.0 > > $ which tzsetup > > /usr/sbin/tzsetup > > It doesn't show up on the Stable system I'm using right now. Some people uninstall base-config after they're finished with the installation. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nessus portscan takes loooooong
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:03:04PM +0100, Kjetil Kjernsmo wrote: > However, the initial portscan takes an extremely long time... Actually, > I haven't seen it finish, because I had to turn my computer off at > night... :-) But something like 10 hours, it seems like it would need > to do a portscan... WTF? There's is a progress bar, it moves this slow. My localhost portscan was fast (as expected).. the attack bar is taking ages though. -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anaconda, where's the beef?
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 01:30:12 -0800 "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:05:59PM -0500, Fraser Campbell > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Apologies since this isn't really a Debian question but does anyone > > know where a person can download the anaconda port for Debian? I > > saw the announcement a while back from Progeny but there were no > > links, binaries, source or hints as to when they might make it > > available. Perhaps they're waiting to get their public subversion > > server ready? > > > > I'm hoping the port includes the ability to kickstart Debian, that > > would make it _very_ useful for me today. > > Good question. > > I just spent several minutes poking through the announcements, several > package archives (both standard Debian archives, > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=wnpp (ITP list), > http://www.apt-get.org/, and the #debian IRC channel. > > Your best bet may be to approach Progeny or Ian Murdoch directly on > this. > > ...and if you find out what the scoop is, please share! > I don't know why we have to go to Red Hat for something that Debian requires. This looks like everything that might be required here:- http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=455&page=1 Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian based working distribution
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:53:24 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss) wrote: > Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see > "debian-boot" list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for > alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no > root access), Morphix (doesn't run on my system). Any others? > Do a google or alltheweb on Libranet. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: window manager recomendation
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:32:38PM -0500, Bill Marcum wrote: > Some other small window managers are aewm, aewm++ and flwm. (What is > Installed-Size anyway?) It is a field for the debian package, representing disk space used when the package is unpacked. It provides a rough idea of how much memory the program will use, too - although it isn't a good idea to rely on it for anything important. (it isn't accurate at all) -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: No to wine! (was:"Red Hat recommends...")
I was an avid OS/2 user at one time, until technology moved on and the logical switch for most OS/2 users was Linux. Your thoughts on using Win3.1 and OS/2 are interesting...except that Win3.1 was known to run better under OS/2. The reason was problem because IBM did a work-around for the bugs that existed (or corrected them in the blue box version). Thus I rarely if ever booted into DOS+Win3.1 The stable solution was almost inevitably run Win3.1 under OS/2. And the most stable was the old blue box version of course, instead of having to install Win3.1 separately and have OS/2 install and look for it. On 08-Nov-2003 Christian Schnobrich wrote: > On Fri, 2003-11-07 at 00:52, David Millet wrote: > >> > >> Or not until wine begins running these and every windoze app that >> everyone uses flawlessly, which hopefully happens soon. > > No! > please. > > Anyone remembers OS/2? I think that one important reason why it failed > (among admittedly many others) is that many developers didn't see any > need to write software for it. I've heard/read many times that an OS/2 > version wasn't necessary as people can run the windows software almost > just as well. > In the end, I hardly ever booted into OS/2, because there I'd not only > have to deal with the issues of Win31 software, but with the problems of > running them under an alien system as well. > > In the same way, I wouldn't use Linux if I had to run 90% of the > applications through wine. Not even if it were 'only' 20%... but as > things are, Linux natively offers almost all I need, and that's why I > consider it to be a good alternative. > > Wine is a necessary crutch, suitable to run the one or two apps that are > not (yet?) available for Linux. But in my eyes it will be no solution to > improve the crutch. On the contrary, having a really good wine might > even be dangerous. > At any rate, I think it's a strange philosphy to hope that a workaround > should become the actual solution. > > cu, > Schnobs > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Arlen Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "I've seen the forgeries I've sent out." -- John F. Haugh II ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), about forging net news articles This message was sent by XFmail (Linux) -o) /\\ _\_v The penguins are coming... the penguins are coming... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: window manager recomendation
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 11:41:44AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:32:38PM -0500, Bill Marcum wrote: > > Some other small window managers are aewm, aewm++ and flwm. (What is > > Installed-Size anyway?) > > It is a field for the debian package, representing disk space used when > the package is unpacked. It provides a rough idea of how much memory the > program will use, too - although it isn't a good idea to rely on it for > anything important. (it isn't accurate at all) Does binary size really indicate how much memory will be used? It's easy for a tiny program to allocate gobs of memory. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 02:05:15 -0600 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 23:07, ben wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:14:38 -0800 > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > [snip] > > whatever about the rest, a theocracy in a century! bush has already > > made public statements about how god instructed him to invade > > afghanistan and iraq. what the hell happend to separation of church > > and state? on top of > > Tell you what: I won't interpret the German Constitution if you > don't interpret the U.S. Constitution. nah, i've got a better idea: you feel free to interpret the german constitution or any other text in the world, or not, as you wish, and i'll go on feeling free to do the same. no need to forbid yourself anything on my account. > > Do you even know what "separation of church and state" means? Does > it mean "government officials shall avoid religion at all costs", > or does it mean "Congress shall make no law respecting an estab- > lishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"? > http://www.access.gpo.gov/congress/senate/constitution/amdt1.html > http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am1 > > Yes, that's right: Jefferson didn't mean what we now understand > "a wall of separation between Church and State" to mean. > then i take it you haven't read jefferson's wall of separation letter. there's a copy of it at www.usconstitution.net/jeffwall, a transcript of the original in the library of congress. in response to the two questions above, consequent to my interpretation of the statements made by jefferson in that letter, the first answer would be that i believe i have a fairly good grasp of what jefferson understood separation of church and state to mean, and the second answer would be that, both definitions above are equally correct. don't get me wrong, i'm not an america-basher. i know and like the place, but i'm very concerned that so much that is great there, in particular the vast range of freedoms implied in the constitution, is being steadily pulled out from under you by the current administration, and in such a manner that the conditions under which us other humans get to live are also detrimentally influenced. i think that the process by which individuals get to be in power, there, has been steadily removed from the people to such a degree that too many, albeit well-intended and loyal good folks, have begun to rely on blind faith rather than to continually regard government sceptically, as a necessary evil that should always be held in check and held to account for the manner in which it deals with its allotment of public trust. ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newbie packages question
Hi All, I'm trying to compile the new Kdevekop3 to be used as dev GUI. But I run head on to the following problems. Here the output from configure: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/kde3src/kdevelop$ ./configure --enable-debug=full --prefix=$KDEDIR --with-kdelibsdoxy-dir=$KDEDIR/share/doc/HTML/en/kdelibs-apidocs checking build system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking host system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking target system type... i686-pc-linux-gnu checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking for -p flag to install... yes checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... gawk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for style of include used by make... GNU checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C... none needed checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3 checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E checking for g++... g++ checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... yes checking whether g++ accepts -g... yes checking dependency style of g++... gcc3 checking whether g++ supports -fno-builtin... no checking whether g++ supports -Woverloaded-virtual... yes checking whether g++ supports -Wmissing-format-attribute... yes checking whether g++ supports -Wundef... yes checking whether g++ supports -Wno-long-long... yes checking whether g++ supports -Wnon-virtual-dtor... yes checking whether g++ supports -fno-exceptions... yes checking whether g++ supports -fno-check-new... yes checking whether g++ supports -fno-common... yes checking whether g++ supports -fexceptions... yes checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E checking whether g++ supports -O0... yes checking whether g++ supports -Wl,--no-undefined... yes checking whether g++ supports -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined... yes not using lib directory suffix checking for a sed that does not truncate output... /bin/sed checking for egrep... grep -E checking for ld used by gcc... /usr/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files... -r checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B checking whether ln -s works... yes checking how to recognise dependent libraries... pass_all checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for sys/types.h... yes checking for sys/stat.h... yes checking for stdlib.h... yes checking for string.h... yes checking for memory.h... yes checking for strings.h... yes checking for inttypes.h... yes checking for stdint.h... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking dlfcn.h usability... yes checking dlfcn.h presence... yes checking for dlfcn.h... yes checking for g77... no checking for f77... no checking for xlf... no checking for frt... no checking for pgf77... no checking for fort77... no checking for fl32... no checking for af77... no checking for f90... no checking for xlf90... no checking for pgf90... no checking for epcf90... no checking for f95... no checking for fort... no checking for xlf95... no checking for ifc... no checking for efc... no checking for pgf95... no checking for lf95... no checking for gfortran... no checking whether we are using the GNU Fortran 77 compiler... no checking whether accepts -g... no checking the maximum length of command line arguments... 32768 checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object... ok checking for objdir... .libs checking for ar... ar checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for strip... strip checking if gcc static flag works... yes checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions... no checking for gcc option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in... no checking dynamic linker characteristics... GNU/Linux ld.so checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking whether stripping libraries is possible... yes checking for shl_load... no checking for shl_load in -ldld... no checking for dlopen... no checking for dlopen in -ldl... yes checking whether a program can dlopen itself... yes checking whether a statically linked program can dlopen itself... yes checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... no configure: creating libtool appending configuration tag "CXX" to libtool checking for ld used by g++... /usr/bin/ld checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking for g++ option to produce
Re: window manager recomendation
Quoting Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 11:41:44AM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 03:32:38PM -0500, Bill Marcum wrote: > > > Some other small window managers are aewm, aewm++ and flwm. (What is > > > Installed-Size anyway?) > > > > It is a field for the debian package, representing disk space used when > > the package is unpacked. It provides a rough idea of how much memory the > > program will use, too - although it isn't a good idea to rely on it for > > anything important. (it isn't accurate at all) > > Does binary size really indicate how much memory will be used? > It's easy for a tiny program to allocate gobs of memory. > Its not a very good indication, but in context it can imply how complex a program is and give an extimate of order of magnitued. It does have to be taken in context though with respect to what the program does. For window managers size is usually also related to graphical complexity and thus give some rough estimate, although you need to take into account the toolkit used and thus external libraries, dependencies. Also as an example take fvwm which can be started up with vector buttons and minimal decorations and take very little memory or with pixmaps all over and all sorts of plugins and probably be the usuall memory hog (Allthough I guess not nearly as close as kde and gnome ;-) > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
internet
HI, I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up. How can I get debian to recognize my internet connection? Thank you, Ed Reilly
Re: Anaconda, where's the beef?
on Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:00:55PM +0800, David Palmer. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 01:30:12 -0800 > "Karsten M. Self" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > on Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:05:59PM -0500, Fraser Campbell > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Apologies since this isn't really a Debian question but does anyone > > > know where a person can download the anaconda port for Debian? I > > > saw the announcement a while back from Progeny but there were no > > > links, binaries, source or hints as to when they might make it > > > available. Perhaps they're waiting to get their public subversion > > > server ready? > > > > > > I'm hoping the port includes the ability to kickstart Debian, that > > > would make it _very_ useful for me today. > > > > Good question. > > > > I just spent several minutes poking through the announcements, several > > package archives (both standard Debian archives, > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=wnpp (ITP list), > > http://www.apt-get.org/, and the #debian IRC channel. > > > > Your best bet may be to approach Progeny or Ian Murdoch directly on > > this. > > > > ...and if you find out what the scoop is, please share! > > > I don't know why we have to go to Red Hat for something that Debian > requires. > This looks like everything that might be required here:- > > http://articles.linmagau.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=455&page=1 > /me nominates this article for "Most gratuitous use of photographs of a monitor where screenshots would have sufficed". VMWare, anyone? Cutting to the chase, the article points to this page: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ ...though I see no mention of Anaconda on it. Anyone know? Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? George W. Bush: Leadership without a doubt pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Compaq Wireless LAN Multiport W200
What do I need to do to make a Compaq Wireless LAN Multiport W200 work in an N410C laptop, under STABLE. What do I need to do to make this work? -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin - End forwarded message - -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
sorry, that should have been www.usconstitution.net/jeffwall.html ben -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Swen reporting scripts
I've prepared a couple of scripts which I'm using to report swen headers
and body to originating ISPs.
I don't know if it's a result of this or not, but my received Swen has
fallen of significantly Friday 14 Nov. compared with the 24 hours
preceding.
Do *not* trust the scripts to fully automated processing. However if
you can filter viral mail to a separate folder, and weed out any false
positives, the reporting works pretty well.
There is an explicit assumption that the Swen-originating SMTP server
identifies itself accurately. MOST SPAM AND MANY VIRUSES DON'T DO THIS.
These scripts are special purpose.
They're also pretty naive, bash shell and sed respectively. No
warranty, take your own risks, GPL.
Use:
- Two scripts. 'reportSwen' and 'fqdn2domain'. The first reports the
mail. The second returns a domain from an fqdn, and is called by
the first.
- Scripts work on directory-based mail folders (Maildir, MH, etc.).
*NOT* mbox. Sorry.
- The reportSwen script requires modifications -- substitute
appropriate values to match your mailserver, signature, etc.
- You'll need to delete the dummy delivery line and uncomment the true
delivery line. Otherwise you just get a report to stdout ;-)
- There are several possible modifications suggested as well.
- To run on a directory's worth of mail:
$ reportSwen *
- Direct any support questions to this list, not me.
Peace.
--
Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/
What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand?
Backgrounder on the Caldera/SCO vs. IBM and Linux dispute.
http://sco.iwethey.org/
#!/bin/sed -nf
#
# Copyright (C) 2003 Karsten M. Self
#
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify
# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
# the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
# (at your option) any later version.
#
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the
# GNU General Public License for more details.
#
# You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
# along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
# Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330,
# Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA.
#
# --
#
# This should be named 'getTLD.sed'. It's a script to trim an FQDN to
# just the appropriate registered domain. Useful in filing, say,
# complaints to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] addresses.
#
# The domains listed are a rough cut, you may need to update the list(s)
# over time.
# --
# Exceptions. Domains generally in RFC ignorant
# (http://www.rfc-ignorant.org). Specific mappings:
s/^.*wanadoo\.fr$/francetelecom.com/
# --
# "Standard - nationalized": net|com|edu|gov. style:
/\.\(net\|com\|edu\|mil\|gov\)\.\(ae\|ar\|au\|br\|cn\|do\|il\|mx\|my\|np\|nz\|ph\|pk\|pl\|sg\|tr\|tw\|ua\)$/
{
/^.*\.\([^.]\{1,\}\.[^.]\{1,\}\.[^.]\{1,\}\)$/s//\1/p
d
}
# "Commonweath" (ac|co|ne). style:
/\.\(ac\|co\|ne\)\.\(nz\|th\|uk\|za\)$/ {
/^.*\.\([^.]\{1,\}\.[^.]\{1,\}\.[^.]\{1,\}\)$/s//\1/p
d
}
# Japan
/\.\(ac\|ad\|co\|ed\|go\|gr\|ne\|or\|geo\)\.\(jp\)$/ {
/^.*\.\([^.]\{1,\}\.[^.]\{1,\}\.[^.]\{1,\}\)$/s//\1/p
d
}
# State/province + country
# Canada
/\.\(ab\|bc\|mb\|nb\|nl\|ns\|nt\|nu\|on\|pe\|qc\|sk\|yt\)\.\(ca\)$/ {
/^.*\.\([^.]\{1,\}\.[^.]\{1,\}\.[^.]\{1,\}\)$/s//\1/p
d
}
# United States of America
/\.\(ak\|al\|ar\|as\|az\|ca\|co\|ct\|dc\|de\|fl\|ga\|gu\|hi\|ia\|id\|il\|in\|ks\|ky\|la\|ma\|md\|me\|mi\|mn\|mo\|mp\|ms\|mt\|nc\|nd\|ne\|nh\|nj\|nm\|nv\|ny\|oh\|ok\|or\|pa\|pr\|ri\|sc\|sd\|tn\|tx\|um\|ut\|va\|vi\|vt\|wa\|wi\|wv\|wy\)\.\(us\)$/
{
/^.*\.\([^.]\{1,\}\.[^.]\{1,\}\.[^.]\{1,\}\)$/s//\1/p
d
}
# Other/default (usually: com|org|edu|mil|gov
/^.*\.\([^.]\{1,\}\.[^.]\{1,\}\)$/s//\1/p
#!/bin/bash
# reportSwen
# Karsten M. Self
#
# Copyright (c) 2003 Karsten M. Self
#
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Re: Spamassassin, keep feeding messages for bayes?
Karsten M. Self wrote: SA has an "autolearn" feature, where mail scoring above 6, and below 0.1, will be "autolearned" as spam and ham. That is, the Baysian classifier will train on these mails. However these only are what SA would have caught already without the Bayesian score. It discards that when autolearning to prevent a self-spiralling corruption of its database. On any given pass through d-u, d-d, d-m or d-k I can get 50-60+% messages which were not learned by SA. That's a large amount to discard. Does he need to feed every message to SA? If he has autolearning turned on, no. Should he feed samples in regularly? Yes. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 56K video link software?
David Selby wrote: I have a relative who has moved out to Australia & am interested in using a webcam & 56K modem for a video link (I know the picture quality will be rough) Can anyone point me in the right direction for video link software ? Many thanks Dave Thanks for the help, I like the look of gnomemeeting Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cable modem configuration -- DHCP? (was Re: internet)
on Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:05:55AM -0500, Ed and Pat Reilly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > HI, > I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat > and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up. > How can I get debian to recognize my internet connection? Please set your mailer/editor linewrap to 68-75 characters. I strongly recommend 72 as a good default. Thank you. ...and an appropriate subject line also helps. Changed per my guess of your problem. Very likely your cable modem/gateway uses DHCP to provide internal network addresses. You'll need to install a dhcp client -- dhcp-client should work, though there are several others packaged for Debian. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Bush/Cheney '04: Or else. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
OT yahoo messenger for Woody
OK this is a bit OT but I am stuck. I am trying to get Yahoo "messenger" working on woody. Apparently the package is for woody. http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html I installed it with dpkg -i, it did not show any dependency problems, when I run it I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin$ ./ymessenger /opt/ymessenger/bin/ymessenger.bin: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by /opt/ymessenger/bin/ymessenger.bin) /opt/ymessenger/bin/ymessenger.bin: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by /opt/ymessenger/lib/libgtkhtml.so.6) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/bin$ Im not very knolledgable about libs, Woody appears to be glibc 2.2.5. Am I right in thinking the package is flawed from Yahoo or have I done something wrong. Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Faked Browser with Mozilla Firebird
on Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:57:46AM -0800, Martin J. Hillyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 05:16:33AM +, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > on Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 10:21:45PM +, Clive Menzies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > > I'm intrigued. why would you want to do this? I understand Opera > > > does it because MS had found a way to lock them out of certain sites. > > > Is this also a problem for Mozilla? > > > > http://twiki.iwethey.org/Main/UserAgentString > > > > The user-agent string has been the source of many of the Web's worst > > ills. It's strongly encouraged that it be done away with in a way > > that encourages better practices from site authors. > > > > > [...] > > I've found an example of a problem apparently caused by the > UserAgentString check. I recently switched to Mozilla-firebird, and > found that after the switch, amazon.com wouldn't recognise my password > (kept on the local machine by mozilla). When I changed the > UserAgentString to plain Mozilla using the User Agent Switcher, > everything worked. I've written to amazon suggesting they change > their ways; we'll see what happens. Never said the change won't cause problems. However the problems are indicative of the greater problem: reliance on user-agent to differnetiate service. Which I'm pointedly attempting to draw sites' attention to. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Moderator, Free Software Law Discussion mailing list: http://lists.alt.org/mailman/listinfo/fsl-discuss/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: internet
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:05, Ed and Pat Reilly wrote: > HI, > I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat > and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up. > How can I get debian to recognize my internet connection? Well, your mail lacks about every bit of information we might need to help you. Most likely your internet connection is a sort of ppp link (though I can't even be sure of that). 'man -k ppp' should list about a dozen manpages that might contain information applicable to your problem. Even if you can't fix it yourself, after reading the manpages you will be able to provide us with a few keywords on what exactly isn't working. Sorry, but "it used to work and now it doesn't" simply ain't enough. cu, Schnobs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Escape sequences displaying in man pages
Curt Daugaard wrote: Bill Marcum wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 06:18:13AM -0600, Curt Daugaard wrote: Hi, I'm running unstable and use the most package as pager for man pages. After an upgrade the color output broke and I see instead the raw escape sequences. Running update-alternatives, I noticed the pager was changed to less. I set it back to most, but that didn't help. Any help appreciated. Are you using the console or xterm, gnome-terminal, rxvt, etc.? What is the output of "echo $TERM" ? It happens at the console/virtual console and in xterm. I've discovered this is happening with most but not all the man pages. For some reason calendar and hd are rendered correctly. Now I'm really baffled. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Night mare to set day light savings time
Colin Watson writes: > Some people uninstall base-config after they're finished with the > installation. However, I have not done so. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh-agent
on Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 06:27:40PM +, Geoff Thurman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Saturday 08 November 2003 3:17 pm, Karsten M. Self wrote: > > ssh is highly valuable because it provides a secure, encrypted, > > authenticated, non-spoofable means of issueing commands or data > > between hosts. It's used not just for shells and commands but for > > file transfers in the form of scp, sftp, and rsync. See also the > > fish:// protocol (implemented in lftp, for example). ssh replaces > > telnet and rsh, for the most part transparently, both of which are > > highly insecure protocols. > > > > I'd strongly recommend you leave ssh installed. Could be most > > useful. > > > > Thanks for this, but unless I actually use ssh (or anything else) surely > it's best to remove it? See above. It's such a fundamentally useful piece of networking infrastructure, and a lifesaver when needed, that I'd leave it on a system. Downside risk is very low, and utility is very high, even if used very infrequently. Note that I just about came to blows on IRC support arguing the contrary point over another utility today -- however that was a tool I rarely use and frequently have trouble with. Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? Ceterum censeo, Caldera delenda est. SCO vs IBM Linux lawsuit info: http://sco.iwethey.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian based working distribution
Otto Wyss wrote: So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no root access) sudo will give you root access in Knoppix -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
alternative to mrproject (gnome project planner)
I wish to use a project program to manage my dissertation. I need to be able to create and update GANTT charts. 'mrproject' in unstable is fairly useful but has a few serious problems. Can anyone recommend a similar program? Thanks, -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: internet
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:05:55AM -0500, Ed and Pat Reilly wrote: > HI, > I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat and suse > before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up. How can I get debian > to recognize my internet connection? Is your cable modem an ethernet or USB one? If the former, try installing a dhcp daemon (there's a few, dhcpcd, pump...). Also see if your network card is setup - what chipset is it, does it appear on /sbin/ifconfig output? -- Jon Dowland http://jon.dowland.name/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???
Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003:11:15:09:15:22+0100] scribed: > Hello > > John L. Fjellstad (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > > > On Saturday 15 November 2003 01:42, Michael D Schleif wrote: > >> I do not want exim, nor its ilk, on open port 25. > >> > >> I do want system mail (cron, error messages, &c.) to be delivered to > >> root. > >> > >> Is exim required? > >> > >> If I uninstall exim, will system mail continue to be delivered? > >> > >> What is the Debian way to accomplish these goals? > > > > You don't need a MTA (like Exim) listening on port 25, to have it do > > local > > delivery. For instance, in qmail (which I'm familiar with), the > > listener program is a separate program from the delivery mechanism > > (don't know how it is in exim). > > In fact, exim doesn't have to be running at all to have local email > delivered. Deinstalling however will cause dependency problems because > packages like anacron, at, mailx and logrotate depend on MTA. OK, I guess this is where my thinking comes in. I have rerun eximconf, and told it to use option #4, that this computer is *not* on the Internet, and to only deliver local mail. Of course, now nothing is listening on port 25 ;> Nevertheless, having exim installed on this system appears to be overkill, and a possible security hole. I want local system mail delivered; and, I want ``packages like anacron, at, mailx and logrotate'' to function properly. What is the Debian way to promote this absolutely minimal mail system? How do others handle this? -- Best Regards, mds mds resource 877.596.8237 - Dare to fix things before they break . . . - Our capacity for understanding is inversely proportional to how much we think we know. The more I know, the more I know I don't know . . . -- pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Cable modem configuration -- DHCP? (was Re: internet)
Karsten M. Self wrote: on Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:05:55AM -0500, Ed and Pat Reilly ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: HI, I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up. How can I get debian to recognize my internet connection? Very likely your cable modem/gateway uses DHCP to provide internal network addresses. You'll need to install a dhcp client -- dhcp-client should work, though there are several others packaged for Debian. Then edit /etc/network/interfaces so it looks something like this: # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) # The loopback interface # automatically added when upgrading auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The first network card - this entry was created during the Debian installation # (network, broadcast and gateway are optional) # automatically added when upgrading auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp #iface eth0 inet static # address 192.168.123.2 # netmask 255.255.255.0 # gateway 192.168.123.1 This tells your system to use dhcp on your ethernet card labeled "eth0" (which is a standard nickname for the first nic found in the box). Now you need to restart networking, either by rebooting, or by running: /etc/init.d/networking stop followed by /etc/init.d/networking start (You could theoretically use "/etc/init.d/networking restart", but the separate steps work better in my experience.) Now you should be able to ping, ftp, telnet, browse the web, check email, etc. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to mrproject (gnome project planner)
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > I wish to use a project program to manage my dissertation. I need to be > able to create and update GANTT charts. > > 'mrproject' in unstable is fairly useful but has a few serious problems. Try www.taskjuggler.org. Debian packages are being produced as we speak (of their CVS version). Unlike mrproject, this one actually works instead of staying there just trying to look pretty with a ton of bugs rotting inside and major required functionality missing. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cable modem configuration -- DHCP? (was Re: internet)
Kent West wrote:
Karsten M. Self wrote:
on Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:05:55AM -0500, Ed and Pat Reilly
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
HI,
I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat
and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up.
How can I get debian to recognize my internet connection?
Very likely your cable modem/gateway uses DHCP to provide internal
network addresses. You'll need to install a dhcp client -- dhcp-client
should work, though there are several others packaged for Debian.
Then edit /etc/network/interfaces so it looks something like this:
Oh yeah, someone else pointed out the issue of a USB connection or an
ethernet connection. I was assuming ethernet, and I was also assuming
that your nic was automagically recognized. If it was not recognized,
you'll need to activate the correct module ("modprobe " --
you can probably find the modules under
/lib/modules//kernel/kernel/net). If it's USB, it's
outta my league.
--
Kent
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Re: internet
on Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:20:04PM +0100, Christian Schnobrich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 14:05, Ed and Pat Reilly wrote: > > HI, > > I have setup debian on my pc along with windows 98 se. I've had redhat > > and suse before and they recognized my cable connection and set it up. > > How can I get debian to recognize my internet connection? > > > Well, your mail lacks about every bit of information we might need to > help you. Most likely your internet connection is a sort of ppp link > (though I can't even be sure of that). > 'man -k ppp' should list about a dozen manpages that might contain > information applicable to your problem. Even if you can't fix it > yourself, after reading the manpages you will be able to provide us with > a few keywords on what exactly isn't working. > > Sorry, but "it used to work and now it doesn't" simply ain't enough. ...and in the spirit of providing guidance: I'd very strongly recommend you read the following excellent essay by Simon Tatham, "How to Report Bugs Effectively": http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html The essay "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" by Eric S. Raymond and Rick Moen essay is is also good: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Please note that you are the person in the best position to know what you're trying to do, what you've done, how the system's responded, and generally how it's configured. It's very helpful if you can post: - *Exact* commands or steps tried. - *Exact* error output or log messages. Often, entering the error messages into a good search engine such as AlltheWeb (http://www.alltheweb.com/) or Google (http://www.google.com/) will help set you on the road to resolving your problems. While others can offer suggestions, guidance, and experience, we cannot see into either your mind or your machine's state. This is very much a case of "you have to help us help you". Peace. -- Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>http://kmself.home.netcom.com/ What Part of "Gestalt" don't you understand? zIWETHEY: Provocative, super smart, and oh yeah, just a little sexy. http://z.iwethey.org/forums/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian based working distribution
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 06:04, David Palmer. wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:53:24 +0100 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Otto Wyss) wrote: > > > Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see > > "debian-boot" list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for > > alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no > > root access), Morphix (doesn't run on my system). Any others? > > > Do a google or alltheweb on Libranet. > Regards, That's a good choice. Also, you could do a minimal Woody install, then change sources.list to point to sarge, and install what you want, manually or with something like tasksel. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "Fair is where you take your cows to be judged." Unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
computer won't boot now
Hi, I was installing debian on a new laptop yesterday and, briefly, the computer now will not boot into anything - not Lilo (which I'd installed in the MBR and was choosing betweenn debian and Windows 2000) and not even the BIOS setup. If anyone could help me reverse this situation I would be very grateful. I would happily start again from scratch with both OSs if I could get the bootable CDs to boot. Thanks and help!!!, Dan More details: The situation seems rather erratic. Most frequently the screen displays absolutely nothing on powering up. Occasionally a blinking cursor, occasionally it hangs with the intel picture. Once (after being left a couple of hours(!?)) it went through a period of great achievement and got to Lilo twice in a row. The first time I tried to boot Debian and got to the network configuration steps (I had got neither my ethernet nor my video card working, but those problems seem rather trivial now...). On entering my subnet mask it immediately powered down without warning. Then I tried to boot Windows2000 which failed saying that it was missing root>\system32\ntoskrnl.exe. That was last night, this morning nothing better than the blinking cursor and intel screen. Even more details: I had got both operating systems working, but decided to reinstall Linux (which I was doing just by following the debian CD from the beginning again). It did the totally blank screen thing once before I started the reinstallation, but on powering down and then up it worked and I decided to forget about it. The hard drive is partitioned like this: hda1primary NTFS Windows20003150 MB hda4bootprimary Linux 45354 MB hda3primary Linux Swap 1019 MB hda2primary FAT32 for sharing 10487 I am installing debian from a downloaded NONUS .iso image. As I said, I had put LILO in the MBR (my mistake?). I have no floppy drive. -- Dan Davison davisonATuchicago.edu http://home.uchicago.edu/~davison/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
XFree will not run on Woody
I've just installed woody for the first time and I can't get X to run. It was surgested that I upgrade to xfree V4.2.1-6 from http://people.fsn.hu/~pasztor/debian I did that and still it will not run. I've tried running dpkg-recomfigure xserver-xfree86 xf86config Hardware: Matrox G550 card and a HP M700 Monitor. I have had Mandrake 8.1 working OK on this hardware before very well. So confused about what to do now. I have no idea what I should do know, any one. Thanks James -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
> From: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > It seems to me that the "most successful" would be those who can > master the social needs (get good grades from approved testbooks, > etc), while still being able to think outside the box. Ron, I can't give your remark the attention it deserves because this topic is way OT, but I find no way to resist saying just a little. Your implication that students who know how to work within the system tend to get good grades strikes me as accurate, as is the implication that good grades don't necessarily correlate with "intelligence." However, there are some serious problems lurking behind these platitudes. We have no satisfactory measure of intelligence, certainly not the discredited "IQ" test. We therefore must always specify just what we mean by intelligence, particularly the context in which it is manifested. There's probably different kinds of intelligence that are only loosely correlated with mental acuity. For example, I have an intuitive sense that some people really pick things up quickly and frequently come up with unusual insights. I suppose that is a sign of their native intelligence. Unfortunately, that ability correlates poorly with success in school and with success in life. Many of these people have difficulty with formal college courses because they find it difficult to fit into the grove of the system's implicit assumptions and goals and lack the presumed fundamental information and skills. Many of these people don't do particularly well on the job, either, for they may not have some necessary social skills or not take seriously the rules governing work, or perhaps are simply not given opportunity or reason to act creatively. While I think of such people as sharp, and I find them interesting and fun to be with, their mental sharpness may do them really little good. That is, they are not really "intelligent" in the sense that they can think constructively "outside the box." Sometimes they are not so much "outside the box" as "off the wall". Creative thinking, just as creativity in the arts, requires discipline, the mastery of certain skills and possession of a body of knowledge. The issue, I believe, is not thinking "outside the box," as if honed skill and the possession of information is somehow the enemy of creative thinking, but being creative in terms of one's skills and knowledge. Intelligence or creativity without material constraint to give it meaning and direction seems vacuous (lecture here on thermodynamic engines, and how structures give rise to improbable outcomes by constraining a dissipative system's degrees of freedom, etc., etc., etc.). For example, with baroque music there were many geniuses and a lot of hacks whom we seldom hear. The former struggled with and bent conventions to create extraordinarily powerful music. On the other hand, today there's not much left of the old rules, and so it becomes very difficult for a composer to produce anything but soon-to-be-forgotten "elevator music." We are heirs of an ideological contradiction between freedom and determinism, while in fact, in human affairs and to a significant extent in the natural sciences, causality is probabilistic. This suggests the contradiction is false. Haines Brown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
- Original Message - From: "Tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 22:23 Subject: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]] > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:07:01AM +, ben wrote: > [snip] > > whatever about the rest, a theocracy in a century! bush has already made > > public statements about how god instructed him to invade afghanistan and > > iraq. what the hell happend to separation of church and state? > > compared to the taliban and the islamists, I cannot believe you are > acusing *US* of advocating a theocracy. talk about head up the ass. > > > not only do you have an unelected head of state, but those in power at > > the present time are doing all they can to hastily invalidate the basic > > tenets of democracy. > > here's where I have to appeal to those with formal logical training > (particularly, tri-valued logic systems): > > It is true that margin of votes in Florida in the last election was > below the statistical limits. It is neither a true statement that "Bush > won the election" nor is it a true statement that "Bush lost the > election." > > That is, the outcome was indeterminate. So anybody else who could have > potentially been said to "win" would be equally illegitmate. It kind of > sucks when you have a country without a president, so we had to do some > Solomonic justice. Any outcome would have been equally arbitrary, this > one was least constitutionally harmful. > Its not often that I agree with Tom. Should I be worried? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:14:38AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > Since the US hasn't ratified the ICJ treaty, it can't happen, unless > > the Europeans come in (in force) and *take* GWB. (Ha ha ha ha ha.) > > First off, my advance apologies for a bit of rambling; I'm quite tired, > overly caffeinated, and coming off a very long work-week. That being > said... > > To be honest, I doubt the Europeans would have to; they just need to stay > out of our way as we self-destruct. The U.S. is, sadly, heading along > the merry path of the Roman empire. I'd wager that in less than a > century, you will see the birth of a true theocracy within the U.S., Nah. An untrue theocracy, perhaps. Or a stone-owl-ocracy. > with a very well-defined caste system (serfs of the state/wage slaves, > civil servants, warriors/military personnel, and the ruling/business elite). > You can already see portions of this framework forming; the masses shop > at the same stores, purchase the same shoddy goods, listen to the same > music, and are only very superfically differentiated. Most Americans > are undereducated, ignorant of most of the world, and indifferent > towards learning *anything* new. The only things that matter are > expensive shiny toys and gossip. s/Americans/Americans and British/ > Democracy will be preserved, but only for appearance. People can > vote, but the elections will be rigged, with no paper trails and no > accountability. They're already rigged, by the selection of the candidates. Doesn't matter who you vote for, the practical result is that things go on pretty much as they did before. > The gap betwen the rich and poor has been growing at an astronomical > rate, and public education is quickly reaching a point where only those > lucky and/or smart enough emerge from high school with even the most > elementary grasp of the arts, sciences, or of the English language; my > father used to teach a 'computer basics' class to high-school freshmen, > and many of them were almost completely illiterate. Drop-out rates have > been increasing exponentially, and with the rising cost of higher > education, fewer students can afford to attend college. Compounding > this is the fact that blue-collar work is generally frowned upon by > Americans, which has resulted in us having a horrible lack of trade and > technical schools. For those wealthy enough to attend college, many > will attain near-useless English and Liberal Arts degrees, because they > lack the impetus, drive, and determination to pursue a more difficult > degree. UK education is going the same way. University teaching staff complain that the knowledge base of new entrants is shrinking year by year. The government wants 50% of school leavers to go on to university, which means that university entrance standards have to drop dramatically and the vast majority of students take useless degrees of which the canonical example is "media studies". > Within a century, I'd say that the U.S. will be a country much like the > one outlined in 'Higher Education' by Charles Sheffield, with a largely > illiterate, ignorant, and blissful populace, an incredible overabundance > of lawsuit-happy lawyers, useless public schools, and a 'fortunate' > ruling elite who are the keepers of knowledge and power. From the outside, it looks like that already... and the same thing is happening in the UK. > It's sad, very sad, but I don't see much that gives me hope things will > happen any other way. On the upside, those with the brains to move > themselves up on the socioeconomic ladder will do quite well. ...for suitable values of "well". > Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, > Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork! I keep seeing this in people's sigs; what's the derivation? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Night mare to set day light savings time
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 05:49:16PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > [1] Why we still have the criminally stupid concept of DST is beyond > me...http://www.standardtime.com/ Brilliant! Wonder if there's a British version... -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 09:56:56PM -0600, Chema wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:07:49 + > Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > P> There's This Tribe (TM) who subsist by gathering vegetables and > P> spearing fish. They're not into agriculture for food... but they do > P> cultivate pot so they can get stoned while waiting for a worthwhile > P> fish to come by. It doesn't prevent them from mustering the > P> considerable skill and precision required to spear the fish. > > Drugs are bad 'couse are not good, m'kay?? > And pot, pot is bad, m'kay?? > > ;-) ROFL, I've been trying not to post that myself :-) -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 08:09, ben wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 02:05:15 -0600 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 23:07, ben wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:14:38 -0800 > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > [snip] > > > whatever about the rest, a theocracy in a century! bush has already > > > made public statements about how god instructed him to invade > > > afghanistan and iraq. what the hell happend to separation of church > > > and state? on top of > > > > Tell you what: I won't interpret the German Constitution if you > > don't interpret the U.S. Constitution. > > nah, i've got a better idea: you feel free to interpret the german > constitution or any other text in the world, or not, as you wish, and > i'll go on feeling free to do the same. no need to forbid yourself > anything on my account. I still won't try to interpret the German constitution... > > Do you even know what "separation of church and state" means? Does > > it mean "government officials shall avoid religion at all costs", > > or does it mean "Congress shall make no law respecting an estab- > > lishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"? > > http://www.access.gpo.gov/congress/senate/constitution/amdt1.html > > http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html#Am1 > > > > Yes, that's right: Jefferson didn't mean what we now understand > > "a wall of separation between Church and State" to mean. > > > then i take it you haven't read jefferson's wall of separation letter. > there's a copy of it at > > www.usconstitution.net/jeffwall, > > a transcript of the original in the library of congress. Thanks for the updated link. Remembering that "The bracketed section in the second paragraph had been blocked off for deletion", and thus was not actually in the final letter, I don't see anything that implies "government should avoid all semblance of religion, at all cost", which is the current interpretation of "separation of church and state". > in response to the two questions above, consequent to my interpretation > of the statements made by jefferson in that letter, the first answer > would be that i believe i have a fairly good grasp of what jefferson > understood separation of church and state to mean, and the second answer > would be that, both definitions above are equally correct. > > don't get me wrong, i'm not an america-basher. i know and like the > place, but i'm very concerned that so much that is great there, in > particular the vast range of freedoms implied in the constitution, is > being steadily pulled out from under you by the current administration, Those rights started being whittled away under FDR, when the bureau- cracy started to grow, and increased in the 70s, because of a larger growth in the bureaucracy, and activist federal judges, and has con- tinued ever since. Bureaucracies can't survive without making rules, so that's what they do, every day: "From 1987-1996, however, the Federal Register has swelled to nearly 70,000 pages - a 40 percent increase." http://www.goodcommonsense.org/sprawl.htm "Today, the Congressional Research Service says it canʼt even count the number of federal crimes. The American Bar Association reported in 1998 that there were at least 3,300 separate federal offenses and nearly 10,000 administrative regulations that also can lead to crimi- nal prosecutions. They are scattered over 50 sections of the United States code and consume more than 27,000 pages. Though the oldest of these regulatory criminal laws date to 1850, more than 40 percent of have been enacted in the last 30 years." http://www.heritage.org/Press/NewsReleases/nr042103.cfm And then there are all of the regulations in the 50 states, including biggies like California, New York, and the Peoples Republic of Taxachusetts. > and in such a manner that the conditions under which us other humans get > to live are also detrimentally influenced. i think that the process by > which individuals get to be in power, there, has been steadily removed > from the people to such a degree that too many, albeit well-intended and > loyal good folks, have begun to rely on blind faith rather than to > continually regard government sceptically, as a necessary evil that > should always be held in check and held to account for the manner in > which it deals with its allotment of public trust. When the gov't passes out money like water, and jacks up the price of living, via regulation, the people come to depend on gov't, not regard it as a necessary evil. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA Great Inventors of our time: Al Gore -> Internet Sun Microsystems -> Clusters -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XFree will not run on Woody
Hello James Hosken (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I've just installed woody for the first time and I can't get X to run. > It was surgested that I upgrade to xfree V4.2.1-6 from > http://people.fsn.hu/~pasztor/debian > I did that and still it will not run. > > I've tried running > dpkg-recomfigure xserver-xfree86 > xf86config > > Hardware: Matrox G550 card and a HP M700 Monitor. > > I have had Mandrake 8.1 working OK on this hardware before very well. > So confused about what to do now. If you still have the Mandrake installation available, compare the config files from Mandrake and Debian. Also check the XFree log file (probably /var/log/XFree86.0.log) for lines containing errors (EE) and Warnings (WW). If you still jave problems, post the errors and the last lines of the config file here. best regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 Registered Linux User #267976 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 05:08, cr wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:06, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:41, ScruLoose wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 02:09:27PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 12:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 01:35:20PM -0500, Alfredo Valles wrote: [snip] > > > Does it take "multiple Columbines on a daily basis" to constitute a > > > problem? > > > Somewhere close to a hundred Americans blow each other away _per_day_ > > > and you want this to lead me to the conclusion that things are okay? > > > > And... > > - most are done with hot weapons > > - most are "criminal-on-criminal" > > > > I'd rather not live in a nanny state, and take my chance, however > > minimal they are, in a slightly more anarchic society. > > That's kinda a risky argument to rely on, since if accepted it inevitably > leads to the question - why does the US have ten times as many homicidal > criminals per capita, than other countries? Answers in the back of an > envelope please, addressed to the Director-General, FBI, Washington (I guess > he'd dearly like to know...) You think the (main) reasons why the US has become a relatively violent society over the past 45 years would fit on the back of an envelope? Well, lets see what's on the top of my head: - breakdown of the family - divorce/abandonment - fear by modern parents of damaging children's self-esteem - parents wanting to be "friends" - federal regs that make it financially more attractive for the father to leave. - excessive amounts of TV - breakdown of public morality - libertine-ism instead of liberty - for *example*, the HBOization of broadcast TV - ties in with "breakdown of the family" - growth in use of illegal drugs, in past ~40 years - ties into "breakdown of the family" and "breakdown of public morality" -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA 484,246 sq mi (1,254,197 sq km) are needed for 6 billion people to live, 4 persons per lot, in lots that are 60'x150' (a nice suburban US plot). That is ~ California, Texas and Missouri. Alternatively, France, Spain and The United Kingdom. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kaffe and/or sablevm in mozilla?
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:50:27AM -0500, David Z Maze wrote:
> jjluza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > like it is said in the doc, these packages (free implementation), make
> > you to be able to compile and run java program.
> > But they don't work to browse Internet and its java applets.
> > You need a closed source one to do that (sun, ibm or blackdown one)
>
> Wow, that's pretty impressive FUD.
>
> There are two technical obstacles I can think of to using a free JVM
> as a Mozilla plugin. One is actually writing the plugin, which is
> probably the easier part. The second is an implementation of the Java
> class libraries that actually supports things like the Java AWT ("GUI
> stuff"); my impression is that the only Java standard library
> implementation out there is GNU Classpath, and they're strictly
> text-only. (So you could, in theory, write a DFSG-JVM Mozilla plugin,
> but it'd be useless without the non-free class libraries.)
Thanks! IIUC, this means that for the time being, I best use a non-free
plugin like blackdown's, but it is possible that free plugins will
become available in the future, :-)
David
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Re: a2ps and page size -- driving me nuts!
Marc Wilson([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 01:06:52AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > > I installed -20.1 from the snapshot site, and now a2ps just outputs > > to stdout, independent of whether I set -d, -Plp, or just let it run > > (which usually just printed to the default printer, see #193530). > > I don't know... I never had that problem with it. My default printer isn't > lp, though... I set $PRINTER in ~/.bashrc: > I have $PRINTER set to lp in .bash_profile and -20 didn't print, at all, until I made that change. Reason You got me. Wayne -- Computers follow your orders, not your intentions. ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATI Radeon 9800 freezes after using X :1
Is the last version of Xfree in sid supporting ati radeon 9800? Last I had checked it was not yet, so I have fireglx from the ati site running, which of course has created a lot of conflicts everytime that I run an update. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
> Its not often that I agree with Tom. Should I be worried? > > Holy crap! I would! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Social Engineering. {was: Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:35:54 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 15:31, Alfredo Valles wrote: > > On Friday 14 November 2003 3:48 pm, David Palmer. wrote: > [snip very good points] > > > > > The modern 'educational' process is there to teach people > > > how to read just well enough so that they no longer need to > > > think. > > > > The modern educational process should teach people not to > > think what have been thought by others before, but to > > concentrate on new problems. It's what some call progress. > > People still should think about "what have been thought by > others before", because what has been thought before might be > wrong. Yes. Imagine the consequences of someone figuring out we can actually accelerate beyond the speed of light. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Re: Opium
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:09:37 +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:39:31 -0600, > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 02:22, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:56:11 -0600, > > > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: [...] > > > as sharing a good life etc means mankind volonteers to back > > > off on breeding, capping the population at I guess 15B, and > > > easing it down to the long term sustainable 10B. This doesn't have to be the case if humanity expands to space. There are enough raw materials out there for 10T humans. (Just reading a sci-fi novel about asteroid mining.) > > It was tried in the PRC, which has the muscle and > > neighborhood spies to enforce it. Still, it didn't work. There's never been any self-limiting species. That's why we have pest control and wayward asteroids to keep the successes of evolution in check. If we as a species want to survive the next millenium we have to invest in space. No amount of birth control or social problem will solve the population explosion. [...] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printing all of command executed in a script
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 05:05:21 +0900, Akira Kitada wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:08:11AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 07:47:37PM +0900, Akira Kitada wrote: > > > As the subject above implys, I'd like to print all of commands > > > executed in a shell script. > > > > 'set -x' > > Thanks! > 'set -[xv]' is what i want. > I should more read over manuals before posting... sorry. But where is this command documented? I can't seem to get it to work. (I suppose there's some other argument you have to pass to set, but what?) alpha:~> set -x set: Variable name must begin with a letter. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Totally [OT] Re: Opium
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:32:22 -0600, Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > > [1] For those (particularly non-US citizens) who don't > > > know, back in the mid-1990s, 2 white teenagers from a > > > affluent family walked into their High School armed with > > > rifles and pistols. They proceed- ed to blow away those > > > they didn't like, whatever the reason. > > > > I have heard a lot about some movie about guns in US called > > Bowling For Columbine. I haven't see it yet, but friend have > > told it's very good. Now I know where the name came from. > > > You might be interested in the other side. I have owned guns > since I was 13 now 69. Havent shot anyone yet and no plans to > do so. 1 of 250e6 I have never owned a gun and I haven't shot anyone either. Cultural differences I guess. In most other countries, only war, crime and drug lords are allowed to own guns. It keeps the world a much simpler place, rather than having potentially 200M average Joes and Janes with the potential to do you in. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: k3b 1.0 ?
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:39:29 +0100, Joan Tur wrote: > > I'd like to try the DVD burning capability of version 1.0 of > k3b... do you know when is it going to be in SID ? 8-? The backend (that I read) it uses is already in Debian: dvd+rw-tools. It might also use a piece of software that will never make it to Debian (main), the binary-only cdrecord-prodvd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian sarge installation problems
I've 2 problems with the debian installation I need an immediate solution. First how can I reconfigure the keyboard so it uses the swiss keyboard instead of the US? Second, how can I force Debian not to use ide-scsi for reading from my CD-writer? In the current state ide-scsi isn't able to access the CD. Besides lilo.conf doesn't contain 'append "hdd=ide-scsi"' so I don't know why Debian uses it. O. Wyss -- See "http://wxguide.sourceforge.net/"; for ideas how to design your app. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printing all of command executed in a script
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 06:33:31PM +0800, csj wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 05:05:21 +0900, > Akira Kitada wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:08:11AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 07:47:37PM +0900, Akira Kitada wrote: > > > > As the subject above implys, I'd like to print all of commands > > > > executed in a shell script. > > > > > > 'set -x' > > > > Thanks! > > 'set -[xv]' is what i want. > > I should more read over manuals before posting... sorry. > > But where is this command documented? 'man bash' > I can't seem to get it to work. (I suppose there's some other > argument you have to pass to set, but what?) > > alpha:~> set -x > set: Variable name must begin with a letter. Looks like you're using tcsh. 'set -v' and 'set -x' are present in the Korn shell and its descendants (including the POSIX sh specification and bash), but not the C shell. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing modem.
- Original Message - From: "Aaron Hsu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Hoyt Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 01:42 Subject: Re: Installing modem. > Alright, it doesn't look like we are getting very far, so I am going to > throw in the way I would diagnose this issue. *sigh* > > pppd, this is about the best way I can think of to get things done. > It's a little harsh, but nothing a good man page can't handle. I am > including exerts from the pppd man page I am reading. Hopefully it will > provide some insights on how to appropriately diagnose this issue. It > is obvious that the problem with the modem is occuring on the software > level, at least so far, as I assume you have installed it already and > it has worked in other OSes. So we need to get the software messages > coming from the dialers. Hopefully this will help. > > [Exert 1] > EXAMPLES > The following examples assume that the /etc/ppp/options > file contains the auth option (as in the default > /etc/ppp/options file in the ppp distribution). > > Probably the most common use of pppd is to dial out to an > ISP. This can be done with a command such as > >pppd call isp > > where the /etc/ppp/peers/isp file is set up by the system > administrator to contain something like this: > >ttyS0 19200 crtscts >connect '/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/ppp/chat-isp' >noauth > > In this example, we are using chat to dial the ISP's modem > and go through any logon sequence required. The > /etc/ppp/chat-isp file contains the script used by chat; > it could for example contain something like this: > >ABORT "NO CARRIER" >ABORT "NO DIALTONE" >ABORT "ERROR" >ABORT "NO ANSWER" >ABORT "BUSY" >ABORT "Username/Password Incorrect" >"" "at" >OK "at&d0&c1" >OK "atdt2468135" >"name:" "^Umyuserid" >"word:" "\qmypassword" >"ispts" "\q^Uppp" >"~-^Uppp-~" > [End Exert 1] > > [Exert 2] > DIAGNOSTICS > Messages are sent to the syslog daemon using facility > LOG_DAEMON. (This can be overriden by recompiling pppd > with the macro LOG_PPP defined as the desired facility.) > In order to see the error and debug messages, you will > need to edit your /etc/syslog.conf file to direct the mes- > sages to the desired output device or file. > > The debug option causes the contents of all control pack- > ets sent or received to be logged, that is, all LCP, PAP, > CHAP or IPCP packets. This can be useful if the PPP nego- > tiation does not succeed or if authentication fails. If > debugging is enabled at compile time, the debug option > also causes other debugging messages to be logged. > > Debugging can also be enabled or disabled by sending a > SIGUSR1 signal to the pppd process. This signal acts as a > toggle. > [End Exert 2] > > Nice Debian has provided sample scripts and such. pppconfig will also > set up those scripts for you. What you need to do is to investigate > those scripts, see what they are doing, then, once you know that, run > pppd with pon or whatever you need to do, log it, and read the logs; in > fact, send the logs to this list. Hopefully that will give us a much > better idea of what is going on. > > Again, I also suggest that you try this on ttyS3 and ttyS4, as I think > that ttyS4 is the modem, but I want to compare it to something else. > pppconfig and pppd are the most reliable ways to work with your modem, > and they will hopefully give us the most information, assuming they are > configured right. That's where the man pages come in. > > Now, if I was in your situation, after I had those error logs, and knew > exactly what was happening, I would take on the rest of things; but > it's important to see exactly what's happening on the modem, not just > if any sound comes out of it. > > If anyone has a better idea, let me know, because I would love to have > an easier way of doing things next time around. :-) > It is pretty clear to me that the problem is that there is no connection between the modem and ttyS3 or 4 or most likely there are two connections being attempted (at least the logs seem to suggest). Setserial seems to work but dosent clear the problem even after deleting /dev/ttyS3 and /dev/ttyS4 the same message appears in the log (Redundant entry in serial pci-table[ends with ttyS4 at port 0x7fe0 (irq = 10) is a 16550A. I did try wvdial and wvdial.conf but just reread post and will try wvdial.conf.test tomorrow or monday. wvdial appears to be configured ok , will recheck. Regar
Re: Debian based working distribution
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 09:24, Kent West wrote: > Otto Wyss wrote: > > So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no > > root access) > > sudo will give you root access in Knoppix You can grab a real root prompt with 'rootme'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 06:55, Pigeon wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 10:14:38AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:39:31AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] > > > Democracy will be preserved, but only for appearance. People can > > vote, but the elections will be rigged, with no paper trails and no > > accountability. > > They're already rigged, by the selection of the candidates. Doesn't > matter who you vote for, the practical result is that things go on > pretty much as they did before. I wonder if, in some ways, the US isn't too big/diverse to be led by any one person, and distinctive personalities can only emerge on the state level. For example, when I visit metropolitan D.C. (northern Virginia and south-eastern Maryland) I see television ads touting how poli- tician X or Y is s tough on gun control, whereas, in Louisiana, such an ad would be the kiss of death. In the current Louisiana governor's election, the Democrat candid- ate is touting how conservative she is, whereas a conservative Democrat wouldn't have a chance in California or much of the north east. > > The gap betwen the rich and poor has been growing at an astronomical > > rate, and public education is quickly reaching a point where only those > > lucky and/or smart enough emerge from high school with even the most > > elementary grasp of the arts, sciences, or of the English language; my > > father used to teach a 'computer basics' class to high-school freshmen, > > and many of them were almost completely illiterate. Drop-out rates have > > been increasing exponentially, and with the rising cost of higher > > education, fewer students can afford to attend college. Compounding > > this is the fact that blue-collar work is generally frowned upon by > > Americans, which has resulted in us having a horrible lack of trade and > > technical schools. For those wealthy enough to attend college, many > > will attain near-useless English and Liberal Arts degrees, because they > > lack the impetus, drive, and determination to pursue a more difficult > > degree. > > UK education is going the same way. University teaching staff complain > that the knowledge base of new entrants is shrinking year by year. The > government wants 50% of school leavers to go on to university, which > means that university entrance standards have to drop dramatically and > the vast majority of students take useless degrees of which the > canonical example is "media studies". In some areas, there's been a backlash, and, as imperfect as they are, mandatory pass-to-proceed and graduation exams. For example, in Louisiana, children must pass "English" and math tests to get into 5th and 9th grades, and to graduate from high school. There is also "pass to play", where a prospective athlete must maintain a passing average, and get no failing grades. Also, the entrance requirements for state Universities has been raised. No, none of these techniques are perfect, but, IMO, they are pro- ducing more ok-educated students than before, which is a baby- step in the right direction. For example, the 2002 "valedictorian" of a certain New Orleans school hasn't been allowed to graduate, because she can't read at the high school (much less 12th grade) level. [snip] > > Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue, > > Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn bork! bork! bork! > > I keep seeing this in people's sigs; what's the derivation? The Swedish Chef. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA When Swedes start committing terrorism, I'll become suspicious of Scandanavians. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:27:28AM -0600, Michael D Schleif wrote: > I have rerun eximconf, and told it to use option #4, that this computer > is *not* on the Internet, and to only deliver local mail. Of course, > now nothing is listening on port 25 ;> > > Nevertheless, having exim installed on this system appears to be > overkill, and a possible security hole. What's the security hole you are thinking of? -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Totally [OT] Re: Opium
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 04:51, csj wrote: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 17:32:22 -0600, > Hoyt Bailey wrote: > > > > > > [1] For those (particularly non-US citizens) who don't > > > > know, back in the mid-1990s, 2 white teenagers from a > > > > affluent family walked into their High School armed with > > > > rifles and pistols. They proceed- ed to blow away those > > > > they didn't like, whatever the reason. > > > > > > I have heard a lot about some movie about guns in US called > > > Bowling For Columbine. I haven't see it yet, but friend have > > > told it's very good. Now I know where the name came from. > > > > > You might be interested in the other side. I have owned guns > > since I was 13 now 69. Havent shot anyone yet and no plans to > > do so. 1 of 250e6 > > I have never owned a gun and I haven't shot anyone either. > Cultural differences I guess. In most other countries, only war, > crime and drug lords are allowed to own guns. It keeps the world > a much simpler place, rather than having potentially 200M average > Joes and Janes with the potential to do you in. And that, in a nutshell, is the difference between the US and all(?) the rest of the world. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "All machines, no matter how complex, are considered to be based on 6 simple elements: the lever, the pulley, the wheel and axle, the screw, the wedge and the inclined plane." Marilyn Vos Savant -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: k3b 1.0 ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Dissabte 15 Novembre 2003 12:14, en csj va escriure: > On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:39:29 +0100, > > Joan Tur wrote: > > I'd like to try the DVD burning capability of version 1.0 of > > k3b... do you know when is it going to be in SID ? 8-? > > The backend (that I read) it uses is already in Debian: > dvd+rw-tools. It might also use a piece of software that will > never make it to Debian (main), the binary-only cdrecord-prodvd. Thanks, I know. cdrecord.prodvd + xcdroast is what I'm now using, but I'd prefer to use gnu software ;) I've also read about version 0.10.2 to be in sid this weekend 8-)' - -- Joan Tur. Eivissa-Spain Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo & AIM: quini2k www.ClubIbosim.org Linux: usuari registrat 190.783 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/tl8Hok8j9RhtetwRAvSIAJ9Zye5MlZWfUBkf+eUjFtFqKaBXvgCeP99B 4b7jogHgKKmhU3kK8Km7o+A= =WLHa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:27:28 -0600 Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have rerun eximconf, and told it to use option #4, that this > computer is *not* on the Internet, and to only deliver local mail. Of > course, now nothing is listening on port 25 ;> Are you sure nothing's listening on port 25? I just checked with a telnet 25 to one of the machines on my network running exim that I configured with the same option #4 and got the usual SMTP greeting identifying itself as Exim 3.35. I think option #4 just skips asking you details about how to send and receive e-mail from the internet because you told it you only want mail delivered locally. However, it still listens to port 25 because you said you *do* want mail delivered locally, by selecting #4. I normally just run a firewall on the machine if I'm worried about access to certain ports. Using only certain parts of qmail may work, as someone else suggested, but I know at least fetchmail (and probably others) drop stuff in the queue via smtp. Yes, it's mail from that machine to the same machine, but it makes it easier for them to know how to talk to the mail system and they don't need extra code if you want it delivered to an e-mail address on a different machine instead. On the other hand, I'll freely admit that I've never had reason to setup a machine to NSA crack-proof standards... :-) Jacob - GnuPG Key: 1024D/16377135 A Linux machine! because a 486 is a terrible thing to waste! pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there, On Saturday 15 November 2003 09:15, Andreas Janssen wrote: > In fact, exim doesn't have to be running at all to have local email > delivered. Deinstalling however will cause dependency problems because > packages like anacron, at, mailx and logrotate depend on MTA. To clearify, you could probably deinstall exim and not have dependency problems as long as you replace it with another MTA, like postfix, qmail, sendmail etc. - -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAj+2Ib8ACgkQkz0vhQtHHRjgbQCfYMR2X9HGWIU5rmuoTTtgJTdQ LS0An2Yr+9N6EKGkJUlDzxu+EzqtS9YU =lxBq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 11:17:53 -0600 "Jacob S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:27:28 -0600 > Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I have rerun eximconf, and told it to use option #4, that this > > computer is *not* on the Internet, and to only deliver local mail. > > Of course, now nothing is listening on port 25 ;> > > I normally just run a firewall on the machine if I'm worried about > access to certain ports. Using only certain parts of qmail may work, > as someone else suggested, but I know at least fetchmail (and probably > others) drop stuff in the queue via smtp. Yes, it's mail from that > machine to the same machine, but it makes it easier for them to know > how to talk to the mail system and they don't need extra code if you > want it delivered to an e-mail address on a different machine instead. As I think about this a little more, I believe there's a way you can set the IP address that qmail will listen on, such as the /supervise/tinydns/env/IP file that will bind it to certain ips only, so you can use other programs to listen to that port for other ips (in the case of tinydns, it's dnscache that would be listening on other ips). Then you could have it only listening on 127.0.0.1 and accepting local mail, but port 25 would appear dead to any machine connecting from the network. HTH, Jacob - GnuPG Key: 1024D/16377135 Windows hasn't increased computer literacy. It's just lowered the standard. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: What is required to deliver system mail locally ???
Hello Jacob S. (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 08:27:28 -0600 > Michael D Schleif <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I have rerun eximconf, and told it to use option #4, that this >> computer is *not* on the Internet, and to only deliver local mail. >> Of course, now nothing is listening on port 25 ;> > > > Are you sure nothing's listening on port 25? I just checked with a > telnet 25 to one of the machines on my network running exim > that I configured with the same option #4 and got the usual SMTP > greeting identifying itself as Exim 3.35. > > I think option #4 just skips asking you details about how to send and > receive e-mail from the internet because you told it you only want > mail delivered locally. However, it still listens to port 25 because > you said you *do* want mail delivered locally, by selecting #4. Running eximconfig and selecting local delivery doesn't affect on which port exim is listening. With the default settings, exim is started by inetd, which listens on /all/ interfaces, no matter what you tell exim to do. Even if you tell exim to do local delivery only. If you switch off inetd manually or switch off smtp in inetd.conf, eximconfig will not change this (at least if you select option 4). However, if you switch off smtp in inetd.conf and you still have the init scripts for exim, exim will automatically start in standalone mode the next time you reboot. best regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 Registered Linux User #267976 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: computer won't boot now
Daniel Edmund Davison wrote: Hi, I was installing debian on a new laptop yesterday and, briefly, the computer now will not boot into anything - not Lilo (which I'd installed in the MBR and was choosing betweenn debian and Windows 2000) and not even the BIOS setup. If anyone could help me reverse this situation I would be very grateful. I would happily start again from scratch with both OSs if I could get the bootable CDs to boot. Thanks and help!!!, Dan More details: The situation seems rather erratic. Most frequently the screen displays absolutely nothing on powering up. Occasionally a blinking cursor, occasionally it hangs with the intel picture. Once (after being left a couple of hours(!?)) it went through a period of great achievement and got to Lilo twice in a row. The first time I tried to boot Debian and got to the network configuration steps (I had got neither my ethernet nor my video card working, but those problems seem rather trivial now...). On entering my subnet mask it immediately powered down without warning. Then I tried to boot Windows2000 which failed saying that it was missing root>\system32\ntoskrnl.exe. That was last night, this morning nothing better than the blinking cursor and intel screen. Even more details: I had got both operating systems working, but decided to reinstall Linux (which I was doing just by following the debian CD from the beginning again). It did the totally blank screen thing once before I started the reinstallation, but on powering down and then up it worked and I decided to forget about it. The hard drive is partitioned like this: hda1primary NTFS Windows20003150 MB hda4bootprimary Linux 45354 MB hda3primary Linux Swap 1019 MB hda2primary FAT32 for sharing 10487 I am installing debian from a downloaded NONUS .iso image. As I said, I had put LILO in the MBR (my mistake?). I have no floppy drive. Sorry to say this, especially since it's a laptop, but if it won't even "boot" into BIOS, you have a hardware problem. The rest of your symptoms also sound like what you'd see with some sort of hardware failure. Hopefully when you say "new laptop", you mean "new, under warranty, laptop". Could be heat-related, (fan not working, etc); could be damaged chip or mobo; could be RAM failure; could be dead battery confusing the system (you did let the battery charge fully before using the laptop, right?); could be problem with hard drive/cdrom confusing the POST. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spamassassin, keep feeding messages for bayes?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:12:08PM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote: > on Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:19:01PM +0100, Benedict Verheyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > wrote: > I've set up a mailbox "spam-learn" where I dump any spam which slips > past SA, and a cron job to run 'sa-learn' over this every 30 minutes. I wish there was a way to feed an mbox at spamassassin -k and -r instead, since that also updates cloudmark, razor or pyzor depending on what suggested packages you have installed. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/tmjNUzgNqloQMwcRAkAJAJ92yhlfzwpcomU/EJdYwrB15+oWWwCgjKb3 +slb4mzXieJMrwX3jIECaaI= =T+7d -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apache VHOST Problem
Hello, I’m using apache 2.0, i have few website hosted on only two IP address, My problem is : I have Bind on my puter, who deliver the local dns of my local network, and i have apache 2.0. I have set up my apache, and it work fine, just now, where it’s shuting up ! I don’t know why, but when i try to use my browser, on another puter, and another OS (Windows XP here), i can access to ALL local dns, but no one internet dns, i explain : http://my.name.dns.local on the browser display the right page, BUT http://www.name.com isn’t displayed on the right directory, each of my VHOST local have one unique directory my.name.dns.local = /var/www/html/my.name my1.name.dns.local = /var/www/html/my1.name my2.name.dns.local = /var/www/html/my2.name and for the internet domain, is the same thing : www.name.com = /var/www/html/name.com www.name2.com = /var/www/html/name2.com www.name3.com = /var/www/html/name3.com So, my question is, WHY when i try to access to www.name.com i have the displayed page from the directory of my.name.dns.local I’m on Woody Debian, my VHOST are using this syntax : ServerName my.name.dns.local ServerAlias my.name.dns.local *.my.name.dns.local DocumentRoot /var/www/html/my.name ErrorLog logs/my.name.dns.local-error_log CustomLog logs/my.name.dns.local-access_log common ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ServerName name.com ServerAlias name.com *.name.com DocumentRoot /var/www/html/name.com ErrorLog logs/name.com-error_log CustomLog logs/name.com-access_log common ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] If someone can help me, i realy appreciate ! Thanks in advance. Tanen.
devfs
I was doing an installation using whatever disks I can find (stable, tesitng-installer) and I ran into a problem of something that I recall once long ago. I thought devfs was going to be mostly removed from the installations. This is based on a comment I received once long ago from a Debian posting that devfs as a whole wasn't working out all that well and has been removed from the 2.6 kernel. I'm not sure how much of this is true or how much matters right now. But it would be nice to know if I should disable devfs and move on, or not. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
maybe I missed a thread
I have been unsubscribed from 'debian-user' for a bit so I may have missed a thread on this one. But there has been a lot of discussion on other distro-lists about the potential implications concerning the recent announcements of RedHat/Fedora and SuSE/Novell. From the other lists, there's a lot of discussion about alternatives and with that Debian is mentioned A LOT. Does any of this have any real potential influence on Debian? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No to wine! (was:"Red Hat recommends...")
Thus spake [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I was an avid OS/2 user at one time, until technology moved on and the logical > switch for most OS/2 users was Linux. > > Your thoughts on using Win3.1 and OS/2 are interesting...except that Win3.1 was > known to run better under OS/2. How very true. I was writing a textbook under W3.1 using Lotus Ami Pro (as it then was, an improvement on both its predecessors and its successors). Every time I tried to generate the TOC under plain W3.1 I got a BSOD. Running it under W3.1 under OS/2 it worked just fine. OS/2 did have its problems though: I had a printer problem during the install and every time I booted I had to confirm that the printer was not offline. Nothing I could do would change this - including deleting the printer and installing a fresh one... Still, life is so much easier now with debian... -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian based working distribution
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 11:53:24AM +0100, Otto Wyss wrote: > Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see > "debian-boot" list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for > alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no > root access), There is access to root in Knoppix. Don't remember exactly where, but in one of the menus there is an item 'Root shell' or some such. It opens a window with shell running as root. Also, Knoppix comes up with read-only access to your hard disks, once you have found root access, you can change this to rw. From there you can do just about anything, including installing a 'proper' Debian dist. HTH -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Could not load OpenGL library
Sometime in the last few days my OpenGL (or SDL, I'm not sure) has stopped working. I use OpenGL primarily for gaming, so not having it hasn't killed me. The error message I get when starting up Unreal Tournament (and UT 2003) is: Opening SDL viewport. Bound to SDLGLDrv.so Loaded render device class. Initializing SDLGLDrv... binding libGL.so.1 appError called: Could not load OpenGL library This is odd because both Quake3 and glxgears run normally at the same frame rates as before. I am using debian sid, with XFree86 4.2.1-14. I have the latest drivers from nVidia, and I haven't changed them since UT stopped working. If anyone knows what packages are needed for UT2003 to work correctly, could they tell me? Please CC me as I'm not on the list Thanks Nathan Merritt signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Debian for enterprise
Robert Soricone wrote: A computer network, that is currently using RedHat, is interested in migrating to another distribution. Preferably, by April 30 2004. If the group were to consider moving to Debian, what in-house work would need to be performed that was previously being done by the RH engineers? The FAI package can duplicate the functionality of kickstart, but security is of primary concern. I need some specifics to argue in favor of adopting Debian, and what exactly it would entail. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance Rob You may also want to look at systemimager, which lets you customize one client exaclty how you want it and then duplicate that install across a whole bunch of other machines. -Roberto pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"
On Monday 10 November 2003 10:24 pm, Tom wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:11:04PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > > > Paying the occasional "sysadmin bill" might well come out to less > > > than what these people spend on the software itself now. > > People cost a ton -- $100g + 30% for benefits. I use round numbers: > in my 9 years since college, the "average joe" has gone from > expecting roughly $45K, then to $60K, now kids out of school expect > $75K. Really? I don't know where you're from, but computer jobs (of any kind) are basically paying absolute shit right now. You'll be damn lucky to make $50k these days as an experienced admin, let alone someone green out of college. Hell, you'd be lucky to find a steady job at all, most are contract crap for six moths or less. Don't know about programming jobs, but that seems even worse. There are some 75k+ jobs, but they're hard to find and positions don't come up often. > I know it sucks, but you really can make a case for replacing people > with dumb software -- people are amazingly expensive to maintain :-) Microsoft, for all their bad qualities, has at least done one good thing: they've proven that this simlpy cannot be done. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: maybe I missed a thread
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 07:09, Tom Allison wrote: > I have been unsubscribed from 'debian-user' for a bit so I may have > missed a thread on this one. > > But there has been a lot of discussion on other distro-lists about the > potential implications concerning the recent announcements of > RedHat/Fedora and SuSE/Novell. From the other lists, there's a lot of > discussion about alternatives and with that Debian is mentioned A LOT. > > Does any of this have any real potential influence on Debian? How about an influx of "users" who depend on GUI for administration, and who aren't sick of RPM? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jefferson, LA USA "Why should we not accept all in favor of woman suffrage to our platform and association even though they be rabid pro-slavery Democrats." Susan B. Anthony, _History_of_Woman_Suffrage_ http://www.ifeminists.com/introduction/essays/introduction.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian based working distribution
Otto Wyss wrote: > Since the current Debian sarge installation doesn't work (see > "debian-boot" list) and I need an installation fast I'm looking for > alternatives. So far I've tested Knoppix from the newspaper ct (has no > root access), Morphix (doesn't run on my system). Any others? The recommended proceedure is to install the released Debian bits. It does not appear that you tried the released bits but only the testing bits. Obviously in testing things are testing and might not work. If after you have installed the released bits you want to take your machine to the bleeding edge them change your /etc/apt/sources.list from 'stable' to 'testing' or 'unstable'. It is very easy. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade Note that unstable is today's build. The weather there changes daily. Depending upon which parts of the ocean you are traversing that day things are either great or stormy. YMMV. Bob P.S. s/apt-get/aptitude/g to prevent the ensuing discussion there. pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
