Re: Using VIA C3 and Woody?
I have a 733 Mhz C3 at home. The motherboard is a soyo 7VEM. It is a fairly small board. It has sound and video built in. I use it as a fileserver, so I never bothered to install X or sound, so I can't help on those to points. Otherwise a C3 based system is like any other i386 install. I compiled my own kernel for it afterwards, but I didn't have too, the stock ones worked just fine. The performance is a bit disappointing. As a home fileserver it fits the bill, but I tested it with setiathome and found it did no better than your average K6-2 or K6-3 500~ mhz. >> Bill Moseley wrote: >> >I want to build a very quiet and stable machine. Anyone >> >using a VIA C3 based system with Woody? If so, what >> >motherboard are you using? Any hardware issues? > > I'm using Shuttle FV25 Spacewalker boards w/o problems. > I've never really gotten into the Microsoft world so I > have been slow to get into newer interfaces. > > Status: > > All the old AT era stuff works: parallel, serial, thru > video. > > Sound, ethernet, USB work. > > TV-encoder and firewire are untried. > > Incidently: Shuttle seems to have fixed the noisy > powersupply fan problems they had early last year. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian + RAID hardware
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 12:30:53AM +0100, Willi Dyck wrote: > On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 12:59:27PM -0500, Debian User wrote: > [...snip...] > > Ha, tomorrow I am going to play with a nice Compaq Proliant 1850 :-) > with two QFE nics, a Compaq SMART Array controller with two Ultra Wide > SCSI 18GiG attached to it (hot-swapable, I think?!?). It has currently > only one CPU but is upgradable up to 2 CPU's. I think it supports up to > 2GiG SDRAM. It is 3U high. I will report to this list if I had success > or not. So far I have managed to boot Debian 3.0 stable from a self made > bootable CD, which runs completly in RAM. The Compaq SMART Array > controller is supported by the Linux kernel (2.4.X), but I have not yet > actually build a RAID. I just installed a Proliant ML530 G2 and actually i had to create my own installfloppies with a patched kernel for the Smart Array Controller ( http://sourceforge.net/projects/cciss/ ) and i had to add the driver for the Intel e1000 gigabit NIC by hand. I used 2.4.18. charlie -- Végh Károly - System Engineer - UTA - TIS.SAS.BSS Cynics says that Hungarians created America's Hollywood before other Hungarians less destructively created America's A-bomb. http://www.mek.iif.hu/kiallit/tudtor/tudos1/martians.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrecord: What does "BURN-Free is OFF" mean?
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 12:09:44PM +1100, Russell wrote: > Thanks. What i really meant was: does ide-scsi need to be used for read-only > atapi CD drives too? From what i've seen in replies, it seems that it's > only a > requirement for atapi CD writers. If so, is ide-scsi needed for reading CDs > in > an atapi CD read/writer drive, or only for writing CDs? If you want to write CDs, all access to the writer needs to be using ide-scsi. (whether reading or writing) For a read-only drive, you do not need to use it, but many people find it easier to do so if they also have a writer. An ATAPI CD writer will function as a read-only drive if you let the ide-cd driver loose on it. -- Phil Reynolds (PGP now available) o Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |L_ \ / Web: http://www.tinsleyviaduct.com/phil/ (_)- \/ Waltham 67, Emley Moor 69, Droitwich 79, Windows 95 msg28489/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Re: Errors after Kernel-updates
Jonathan Brandmeyer schrieb im Artikel <20030204023010$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> The update went without flaws except that on every boot I get theese > messages: >> - /etc/modules.conf is more recent than > /lib/modules/2.4.18-686-smp/modules.dep >> - insmod: cannot locate module * >> - cannot read /etc/mtab no such file or directory > > I get the same thing, but I have been blowing it off. (for 2.4.18-686) > I've run depmod and update-modules since the upgrade for other reasons, but > the errors remain. I am not familiar with the expression "to blow it off" but I assume you are ignoring it till today. I would feel much better if I knew why this occurs :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *.wma
> .wma stands for "Windows Media Audio" which is a proprietary format > developed by Microsoft and, hence, cannot be played or decoded on > Linux. At least I think they can't be played, uless maybe realplayer has > this capability (which I don't think it does). I encountered some .wma's just a few days ago and MPlayer was able to play them. However, if one wants to play them using xmms, something like ``mplayer -ao pcm foo.wma -aofile - | oggenc >foo.ogg'' should work, if there is no better solution. Johannes -- "More than machinery we need humanity" -- Charlie Chaplin, The Great Dictator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and Dell/Gateway
* Sebastian Canagaratna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-02-2003 03:24]: > Hi: I am thinking of buying either a Dell or Gateway Computer. > This is to be used with Debian testing or unstable. I am > particularly worried about hardware incompatibilities, in > particular integrated graphics, sound etc. I could not find much > with a search on google. I would appreciate comments from those > who have used these, in particular: It's very difficult to make broad statements about either. It really depends on what hardware is inside the case. If you pick a model, take the spec sheet and then use Google or linuxcompatible[1] you should be able to find out. I have used a secondhand Dell to install Linux and OpenBSD. Because of the very detailed Dell support site I was able to find all information I needed quickly before I bought the system, and was pleasantly surprised how well it worked. In general I build my own systems and advise people to do the same or have someone build a system for them based on needs and preferences. Especially, if you won't use any of the software that is part of the deal (Windows, Word, etc). If you do want to use the software, be very well informed of how system-recovery for that particular model works. It's non uncommon to lose everything on the first harddrive when you need to use the recovery cd. Bob [1]http://www.linuxcompatible.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
reportbug wishlist
Someone just pointed out that I was holding one of the oldest bugs on a package. Turns out that the bug was resolved eventually (different versions). It was > 200 days old. As a reportbug wishlist, I would like to suggest some method of periodically notifying the originators of any existing bug reports that they created, which are not yet resolved. Perhaps an annual reminder of bugs that were submitted and are outstanding over XX days. Maybe I found it works now under a new version... (I know there are web pages for these, but I forgot to look) This would have permitted me to find out what I have submitted in the past which is outstanding Also, there doesn't seem to be any mechanism to notify me when a bug is resolved so that I can validate my own experience. Or is this all done someplace that I'm not aware of? -- A watched clock never boils. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim and relaying -- for ONE user
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 09:58:50PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> will trillich wrote:
> > is there some way to further restrict the relaying? i DO NOT
> > want any black hats turning my server into spam-o-rama.
> > ideas welcome.
>
> As an alternative to the SMTP auth stuff proposed by others, I
> suggest you just set up TLS and use certificate based
> authentication. It works like this:
>
> Your friend sets up his mail client to use TLS for outgoing
> mail and relay through your server. You set up your server to
> support TLS for incoming mail (at least). Your friend
> generates a SSL certificate and private key for his mail
> server to use, and sends you the certificate. Then you set up
> your server to allow relaying for TLS connections set up using
> that certificate.
could you be a little less specific? (just kidding. ;)
"You set up your server to support TLS"... at which point i
start slamming the oven door on my head again.
and how does he generate such a certificate? (he's using
microso~1 outhouse, of course.)
aside from "apt-get install exim-tls" there must be much
handwaving to do. i've even dragged my eyeballs over
engelschall's mod_ssl documentation (it's for apache, but the
concepts are no doubt similar) for hours and hours and it reads
as doctoral level stuff to my third-grade education, as clear as
trying to read wiles' proof of fermat's last theorem.
> I have a setup like this for all of my laptops and other
> devices on dynamic or varying IP addresses; each computer has
> its own certificate, and uses exim; my server uses postfix
> which is easy to set up to allow relaying based on SSL
> certificates.
i'd like to stay with exim -- i think -- after having invested
this much in getting it to do as much as it does. :)
your situation sounds like exactly what i'm looking for. if i
can find the right shoehorn to cram that ssl stuff into my
brain, i might be able to move forward.
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Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown
DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #116 from Karsten M. Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:
Wondering WHICH PACKAGE IS USING UP ALL YOUR DISK SPACE?
You can verify a package's installed size with the dpkg -s command:
dpkg -s
And the following script will grab all your installed packages and show
their installed size, sorted and ranked by size:
#!/bin/sh
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin
time dpkg --get-selections |
grep ' install' |
awk '{print $1}' |
xargs -n 1 dpkg -s |
egrep '^(Package|Installed-Size):' |
awk '{printf( "%s: ", $2 ); getline; printf( "%s\n", $2 )}' |
sort -k2nr |
cat -n=20
Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ...
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Perl Modules and CPAN
I'm finding that a lot of times I end up installing perl modules from CPAN in order to obtain stable versions or versions with functionality that I need. The problem that I run into with this method is that I end up with either two sets of software in different locations: one for Debian, the other for CPAN. Additionally, the Debian package library does not know about anything that I have installed independently and will block on dependencies. Is there any way that I might be able to reconcile some of these differences? I would love to be able to install from CPAN and leave them and have Debian's packaging systen eventually upgrade over them when the same packages are released as .debs. But I cannot fathom how to begin doing this. Meanwhile I have some packages that are duplicates, some are CPAN and some are Debian. -- I marvel at the strength of human weakness. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mozilla imap client
Hi, the IMAP client that comes with the mozilla browser is nice to use. But it has the peculiar habit to leave deleted messages in the folders until the user manually 'compacts' his folders (or a particular folder). This is not exactly nice, as the number of messages in the folders will endlessly increase in case users are not aware that they should 'compact' their folders frequently. They do not even see wheather there are deleted messages that could/should be purged or not. I tried to find an option to purge deleted messages automatically, but to no avail. Is there a setting to purge folders automatically? Or is there some tool that could be run from the crontab on the IMAP server that would purge the deleted messages in all folders of all users? Purging the messages forceably by running something like # find ~/Maildir/ -type f -name "*,ST" | xargs rm on all home directories doesn't feel like being a good idea. GH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
hi everybody
Does any one know what kind of information i'v got to put into lilo.conf (line append = "") to define resolution of the frame buffer on a radeon 7000 (not vesa, as i know it cannot be over 1280x1024, isn'it ?) example for a matrox graphic card: append="video=matrox:mem:16318,xres:1408,yres:1056,depth:16,fh:74.514,fv:59.995" thanx for all -- Boukhairi Abderahim INRA BIA 0561285065 ~*-,._.,-*~''~*-,._.,-*~''~HUMEUR,-*~''~*-,._.,-*~''~*-,._.,-*~ Les lois ne font plus les hommes, mais quelques hommes font la loi. D. Balavoine. ~*-,._.,-*~''~*-,._.,-*~''~FIN-HUMEUR,-*~''~*-,._.,-*~''~*-,._.,-*~ 10101000 binaire = 125736 octal = 43998 decimal = ABDE hexadecimal ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: give me the command line - REPHRASED
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 03:12:09PM +0100, Hans Christian Andersen wrote: > On booting my woody-box it goes directly into X without letting me command > startx. > How do I make it stay at a command line untill I order startx? others have answered this, but let me REPHRASE ;) you're apparently running a "display manager" (xdm, gdm, kdm). that's what gives you the graphical login. find out which one you've got via an xterm or rxvt session: ps ax | grep dm it's probably either "xdm" or "kdm" (KDE) or "gdm" (Gnome). as root, just do apt-get remove xdm or kdm or gdm and you'll be set. to get into x from the console (when you're using the graphical interface, that's the "X Window Display System" -- when you're not, that's the "console") just enter startx and you'll be off to the races. if you'd like to have the graphical login sometimes, and sometimes not, you can munge your runlevel settings in /etc/rc*.d/xdm (or gdm or kdm). by default, debian installs runlevels 2, 3, 4 and 5 as identical, and you can change that; find the symlink under rc3.d that links to xdm (or gdm or kdm) and then rename it from S?? to K?? (instead of a "start" script it'll be a "kill" script). now switch to runlevel 3 to have console login, and no X until you "startx" yourself. at runlevel 2 you'll still have your graphical login. # chdir /etc/rc3.d this is where stuff for runlevel 3 gets "S"tarted or "K"illed. # ls S???dm S99xdm # rename S99xdm K99xdm # telinit 3 # telinit 2 cool, eh? -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #12 from Will Trillich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Where is the DOCUMENTATION? It's all over the place... and there's lots of it. Much was written for non-debian distributions, and much was written long, long ago. But try these anyhow: on your own system, try "man" and "info" and "apropos", and also look under /usr/share/doc/* ... Online, there's linuxdoc.org, debianhelp.org, and debian.org/doc/ of course. Also try http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/general/index-deb-help-sys.html and apt-get install dhelp Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vlee project update
Hello everyone Vlee project is update now http://vlee.sourceforge.net http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlee Best regards Max -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reportbug wishlist
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 06:06:35AM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: > Also, there doesn't seem to be any mechanism to notify me when a > bug is resolved so that I can validate my own experience. The maintainers are supposed to CC the original submitter with a reason when they close the bug. However, barring that, you should (in most cases) at least get an indication that the bug was closed. -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reportbug wishlist
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 06:06:35AM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: > Someone just pointed out that I was holding one of the oldest bugs > on a package. Turns out that the bug was resolved eventually > (different versions). > > It was > 200 days old. > > As a reportbug wishlist, I would like to suggest some method of > periodically notifying the originators of any existing bug reports > that they created, which are not yet resolved. (This has nothing to do with reportbug - reportbug just sends mail.) Your best bet is just to wget http://bugs.debian.org/from: every so often. We do have some legitimately really old bugs, and don't want to spam people every so often for years about them, especially since the submitter often can't do anything about them. 200 days old is actually relatively young for a bug report. The oldest non-wishlist bug against the packages I maintain is 4 years and 175 days old, and the oldest wishlist bug is 5 years and 185 days old. Of course I wasn't actually a developer when those were originally filed, but the fact remains that bugs aren't first-in first-out. Frequently new bugs are more urgent, or the old bugs are just very hard to deal with, independent of the problem of inactive maintainers. > Also, there doesn't seem to be any mechanism to notify me when a > bug is resolved so that I can validate my own experience. When a bug is closed you'll get a mail. If it's fixed in a non-maintainer upload you won't currently, but to some extent that's a separate issue which will eventually be fixed as an indirect result of other work. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reportbug wishlist
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 05:56:08AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 06:06:35AM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: > > Also, there doesn't seem to be any mechanism to notify me when a > > bug is resolved so that I can validate my own experience. > > The maintainers are supposed to CC the original submitter with a reason > when they close the bug. If they mail n-done@bugs to close the bug then that happens automatically. A CC is only needed when people are closing bugs by mailing a direct command to control@bugs, which is deprecated anyway. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
knowledge
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 07:52:23PM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: > Knowledge can't be generated. Humans don't generate > knowledge, they acquire it. Didn't you get the hint, so clear > back then, that several human units would discover the same > facts at the same time in different parts of the planet? It > was a very clear hint, that as usual we blind units just > dismissed. you must be talking about how three movies come out in the same year and they're all about the same topic. ;) this may be either semantics or vocabulary -- knowledge doesn't exist, per se -- there is no such thing. it's an aspect of a mammalian mind. saying "it can't be generated" sidesteps the nature of the subject. WE percieve data, WE figure out it's relevant and how, at which point it becomes information to us; when WE can (tho we may choose not to) use that info for some purpose -- even if only to know when to change the channel -- it becomes knowledge to us. sure, we can share our knowledge with others and they'll construct a conceptual model that -- depending on their understanding of our syntax -- will mimic our own. whether you use "construct" or "extract" to describe it is insignificant. until we do share it with others, the knowledge is something we have gained and they have not. "knowledge" is about as abstract as you can get. quibbling over whether your knowledge-gaining process should be called "generation" or "derivation" is semantics only, and doesn't change the fact that it was you who gained it. -- I use Debian/GNU Linux version 3.0; Linux server 2.4.20-k6 #1 Mon Jan 13 23:49:14 EST 2003 i586 unknown DEBIAN NEWBIE TIP #33 from Brian Potkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : Looking for some good DPKG AND APT TIPS? You'll find a very good introduction at http://www.spack.org/geek/apt-help.html It is, of course, based on the man pages for apt-get and dpkg so you will want to read them as well. Also see http://newbieDoc.sourceForge.net/ ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Root partition stuck in read-only mode.
> [ ... ] > > try Timo's rescue CD (debian based): > >http://rescuecd.sourceforge.net/download.html > > If I'm not mistaken his bootimage uses initrd, and does some > autodetection of drives. If the autodetection fails, it's possible > to get a shell early in the boot process and load the needed scsi > modules. I've never done that so I don't really know how it works, > but I expect "modprobe driver-for-your-scsi-card" would suffice. > > [ ... ] > > Look in /boot/config-2.4.20-686-smp, it lists all the config params > used to compile that kernel. Look for scsi-generic and scsi-disk > and the apropriate module for your scsi card. Thank you very much. This all looks useful, and I'll be giving it a try a little later. I hope that my next message here will be a summary of what I did to get this all working correctly. -- Lloyd Zusman [EMAIL PROTECTED] God bless you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reportbug wishlist
Colin Watson wrote: 200 days old is actually relatively young for a bug report. The oldest non-wishlist bug against the packages I maintain is 4 years and 175 days old, and the oldest wishlist bug is 5 years and 185 days old. Of course I wasn't actually a developer when those were originally filed, but the fact remains that bugs aren't first-in first-out. Frequently new bugs are more urgent, or the old bugs are just very hard to deal with, independent of the problem of inactive maintainers. Also, there doesn't seem to be any mechanism to notify me when a bug is resolved so that I can validate my own experience. When a bug is closed you'll get a mail. If it's fixed in a non-maintainer upload you won't currently, but to some extent that's a separate issue which will eventually be fixed as an indirect result of other work. Cheers, It's not that I get an email when it's closed, but we have bugs that are outstanding from Debian 2.1 that are supposedly present in Debian3.0. I just scrolled through some of my old bugs that were out there and many of them have been resolved as the result of subsequent upgrades of packages which are in Stable. This is not a condition where if you upgrade the Debian structure from stable to testing you solve the problem, but a simple upgrade within the Stable branch of Debian is able to resolve this problem. And there is nothing to validate this condition in the process. Do you even know if the 4 year old bugs are even valid anymore under the Debian-Stable branch? Their original Branch? Does a Bug remain tied to a package after the package has been upgraded at the upstream level (example is openoffice 1.0.0 to openoffice 1.0.1 or 1.1.0?) My concern is that if you have a bug registered against your packages, and you subsequently upgrade to a new version of the package as the maintainer, at what point does this bug become as deprecated as the original software? Or am I just seeing a lot of Debian package maintainers who are not that thorough? -- "... freedom ... is a worship word..." "It is our worship word too." -- Cloud William and Kirk, "The Omega Glory", stardate unknown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pyslsk on woody
Hi... At home I use unstable and I have no problems running the python soulseek client (pyslsk). It seems to require python2.2, while on woody is python2.1. I noticed that woody does have python2.2, and I tried to install this and some other libs that pyslsk requires, but I had no success running pyslsk on woody. Does anyone knows what is the procedure to make it work? Or at least some other soulseek client that runs on woody, cause I only know pyslsk. Thanks in advance Rodrigo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What's the "debian" way to bind multiple IP addresses to a single NIC???`
I've scanned the fine manual and googled, but I'm unable to determine the "official" way to bind multiple IP addresses to a single NIC. I realize I can just ifconfig the interface, but I guess I'm looking for the documentation/format of the interfaces file in /etc/networks. Thanks for any help! -Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problems downloading Knoppix
Well I just completed downloading Knoppix using my steam powered dial up connection. I started on 27 January. Murphy's Law being what it is the md5sum of my d/l iso differs from the one I got from the ftp site. I believe I can fix up the problem using rsync. If so can anyone point me to a Knoppix site that I can rsync the iso from. Thanks Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel and dselect
(p I 200Mhz) Hey guys, the base install of Debian 3.0 came with 2.2.20 version of the kernel, which I'm running right now. Now I would like to upgrade. Would I just select "Linux kernel image for version 2.4.20 on Pentium Classic" in deselect and have it install? Or is there some woe awaiting me there? Many Thanks, R> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's the "debian" way to bind multiple IP addresses to asingle NIC???`
On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 13:59, Jeff Hahn wrote: > I've scanned the fine manual and googled, but I'm unable to determine the > "official" way to bind multiple IP addresses to a single NIC. > I realize I can just ifconfig the interface, but I guess I'm looking for the > documentation/format of the interfaces file in /etc/networks. Just define a new interface in /etc/network interfaces: auto tr0 iface tr0 inet dhcp iface tr0:1 inet static address 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 Then 'ifup tr0:1' et-voila... Just replace tr0 by whatever interface you may use... I'm on token ring here at work... :( -- Mark Janssen -- maniac(at)maniac.nl -- GnuPG Key Id: 357D2178 Unix / Linux, Open-Source and Internet Consultant @ SyConOS IT Maniac.nl Unix-God.Net|Org MarkJanssen.org|nl SyConOS.com|nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's the "debian" way to bind multiple IP addresses to a single NIC???`
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 02:25:59PM +0100, Mark Janssen wrote: > On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 13:59, Jeff Hahn wrote: > > I've scanned the fine manual and googled, but I'm unable to determine the > > "official" way to bind multiple IP addresses to a single NIC. > > I realize I can just ifconfig the interface, but I guess I'm looking for the > > documentation/format of the interfaces file in /etc/networks. > > Just define a new interface in /etc/network interfaces: > > iface tr0:1 inet static > address 192.168.0.1 > netmask 255.255.255.0 This is the 2.2 way of doing things. This has been deprecated with the 2.4 kernels (as IP aliasing was -- to my understanding -- essentially a dirty hack) for iproute2. I realize that Debian still defaults to 2.2.x for installation, but I would be also be curious to know you're supposed to bind multiple IPs to a single interface `the Debian way' without IP aliasing (with does still work with 2.4). I spent some time digging through docs when I first discovered iproute2 a year or so ago, but didn't really come up with anything. Ended up writing a script do to it for me. If anyone has any information on the Correct way to do this with 2.4, I'd also appreciate a tap from the clue bat. -- bda Cyberpunk is dead. Long live cyberpunk. http://mirrorshades.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: reportbug wishlist
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 07:52:49AM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: > It's not that I get an email when it's closed, but we have bugs > that are outstanding from Debian 2.1 that are supposedly present > in Debian3.0. Oh, also, I should point out that it does help if you remember to reply to requests for more information from a maintainer. :) Examples in your case would appear to be: #150294 #156598 #157148 #167799 #176083 All of these bug reports are waiting for your feedback. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cups, mpage, lp etc.
Hi folks, This morning, I was faced with a simple task of printing a pdf document. To save paper and ink, i wanted to print two pages to a sheet and duplex them(manually since the printer does not support duplex). I have so far managed to configure CUPS and it prints fine but that is far as I have got. There was actually a little problem there as well - the printer is actually an Epson Stylus C62 but the CUPS system only shows an Epson Stylus C60. I tried downloading and installing the foomatic file for the C62 but when I try to print, it says that the printer is stopped. Clicking start printer doesn't help either. I am using the web interface BTW. I then tried to print using mpage but each time i send the job, the printer page says "No pages found" I tried to print from KGhostview (hoping that it would have good support for CUPS since its KDE) but the printer page says "Invalid Printer Settings" for the document coming from there. Galeon just crashed on trying to print. In the end, I did pdf2ps, then ran mpage -2 -bA4 >output.ps on the ps file, then ran ps2pdf to get a pdf file back and ran lp -o page-ranges=1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15 output.pdf However, since the pdf file originally was a scanned document - the pages seems to have been cut off at the top. What I would like to know if anyone can help me in this is 1. Is there an easier way of doing this (without the pdf2ps and ps2pdf). Preferable just one command to print a document 2 pages to a side and just the even pages of the result or the odd pages of the result. 2. How can I get mpage not to chop the top of the pages off Thanks for any help / pointers. Shri PS - can you cc: me please since I am currently unsubscribed. PPS - running testing system updated yesterday -- Shri Shrikumar U R Byte Solutions I.T. Consultant26/3 Annandale Street Tel: (0131) 558 9990 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Edinburgh EH7 4AN Web: www.urbyte.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: reportbug wishlist
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 07:52:49AM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: [Please reply just to the list; I read the list and prefer not to have additional copies of messages in my inbox. Thanks.] > Colin Watson wrote: > >When a bug is closed you'll get a mail. If it's fixed in a > >non-maintainer upload you won't currently, but to some extent that's a > >separate issue which will eventually be fixed as an indirect result of > >other work. > > It's not that I get an email when it's closed, but we have bugs > that are outstanding from Debian 2.1 that are supposedly present > in Debian3.0. I just scrolled through some of my old bugs that > were out there and many of them have been resolved as the result > of subsequent upgrades of packages which are in Stable. If nobody has actually tested whether they're fixed, there can be no way for you to be notified unless someone does that testing. If you find that a bug you've submitted is no longer valid, please close it. Only the maintainer or the submitter is supposed to close a bug. This is so that bugs don't disappear off into the archive while no-one is paying attention to them. This might sometimes mean that somebody else has observed that a bug is fixed, but nobody has actually been paying enough attention to close it. Also note that if you mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] then this is *not* forwarded to the submitter; you might have missed some messages as a result if people have been careless. > Do you even know if the 4 year old bugs are even valid anymore > under the Debian-Stable branch? Their original Branch? In the case of the bugs I mentioned, yes, I'm certain that most of them are still valid, thank you. I haven't reviewed all the base-passwd bugs yet, but there isn't anything obviously closeable there or I'd have closed it already. I have ideas on how to solve some of the older wishlists, although they're significant programming projects. And actually I don't care whether they're resolved in stable, to a first approximation. Development work takes place in unstable, so generally I only care whether bugs are fixed there. > Does a Bug remain tied to a package after the package has been > upgraded at the upstream level (example is openoffice 1.0.0 to > openoffice 1.0.1 or 1.1.0?) Of course: it has to. Bugs are *only* ever closed due to manual action. If the package name is changed, the bug has to be reassigned manually, but it should certainly never disappear just because somebody somewhere upped a version number. I don't see how that could ever make sense. > My concern is that if you have a bug registered against your > packages, and you subsequently upgrade to a new version of the > package as the maintainer, at what point does this bug become as > deprecated as the original software? What could the upstream version have to do with it? New upstream versions of Debian packages don't automatically close bugs. They *must* be manually checked, either by the maintainer or by some other helpful volunteer; there's no other way to do it. > Or am I just seeing a lot of Debian package maintainers who are > not that thorough? Quite possibly, yes. It does, regrettably, happen. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD Player no sound
I tried the command, but still no sound. I checked the volume, this isn't the problem. HTH, Willem-Jan Op dinsdag 4 februari 2003 04:50, schreef Pigeon: > On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 04:57:11PM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 12:31:22AM +, Sean Burlington wrote: > > > for some reason win XP doesn't use the audio cable... > > > > It's using the IDE bus. There's ways of doing this in Linux, but it's > > really complex. > > cdda2wav -q -e -D/dev/cdrom -N -B 2>/dev/null > > (change -D parameter to suit) > > Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A question about the "large cursos" package.
I've got the Debian "Large Cursor" package installed on one of my Debian machines, and find it most helpful, as I have vision problems. I also work a lot on a FreeBSD machine, and I was wondering where to start looking on the Debian machine to see how this is implemented, in an effort to accomplish the same thing on the FreeBSD machine(s). Thanks for any pointers. -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mplayer - no sound on dvd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > I just tried some divx movies I have. They played fine with sound, so > It looks like it looks like it is just the dvds. dvd audio is decoded by libac3 or liba52. Look for ac3/a52-related messages from mplayer. If that looks ok, make sure mplayer is decoding the right audio stream. DVDs have several audio tracks, so you may need to use -alang or -aid to select the right one. Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: mplayer - no sound on dvd
Chris, I think I know what is going on. First, try starting with Chapter 2 of the DVD. I rented "Royal Tannenbaums" and the sound would only start if I started on Chapter 2. Someone who sounded knowledgeable said that commercial DVD authors have lots of optimization tricks, and srarting the soundtrack after the beginning of the DVD was one of them. It was also VERY quiet at that time. There is an mplayer option to boost the decibels, but I forget what it is. > -Original Message- > From: Chris Hoover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 11:36 PM > To: Mark L. Kahnt; debuser > Subject: Re: mplayer - no sound on dvd > > > On Monday 03 February 2003 22:07, Mark L. Kahnt wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 19:07, Chris Hoover wrote: > > > I need some help, I have installed mplayer on my > debian/unstable kde3.1 > > > system. However, I am getting no sound when I try to > play a dvd. Would > > > someone please be kind enough to clue me in on what I > need to install to > > > get mplayer playing sound. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Chris > > > > Is it *only* with DVDs that you get no sound? Are you setting any > > particular options with mplayer when you run it? > Update - > > I just tried some divx movies I have. They played fine with > sound, so It > looks like it looks like it is just the dvds. > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sshd[23183]: Failed keyboard-interactive
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > I got this error after adding a user, I tried to log-it in > but it get this error. > > sshd[23183]: Failed keyboard-interactive This means that the user tried to log in with PAM and failed. Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pyslsk on woody
* Rodrigo Gruppelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I noticed that woody does have python2.2, and I tried to install this and > some other libs that pyslsk requires, but I had no success running pyslsk > on woody. In what way does it fail? Error messages? BTW, maybe your problem has to do with the not available SoulSeek server at the moment? -- » [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.glorybox.de -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cups, mpage, lp etc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > 1. Is there an easier way of doing this (without the pdf2ps and > ps2pdf). Preferable just one command to print a document 2 pages to a > side and just the even pages of the result or the odd pages of the > result. With my cups printers, I use "kprinter" in any X application print dialog where normally you'd put "lpr". When the kprinter dialog comes up, click "options" and there'll be an option for 2-up or 4-up printing. As far as mpage goes, I use it in conjunction with the cupsys-bsd package's lpr because it's cups-enabled (and mpage itself isn't): mpage -2 foo.ps | lpr I don't know what to tell you about the printer setup problems, though. Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No echo for LCP-ConfigRequets after pap chap --> no route
mi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > now I've got a modem card for my lap, and it seems to work, but still > something wickened prevents me to get an IP. Same here ... > Jan 7 01:25:27 piro pppd[1438]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 > ] > Jan 7 01:25:54 piro last message repeated 9 times > Jan 7 01:25:57 piro pppd[1438]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests > Jan 7 01:25:57 piro pppd[1438]: Connection terminated. > XXX > Jan 7 01:25:57 piro pppd[1438]: Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean: > Jan 7 01:25:57 piro pppd[1438]: Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0 > Jan 7 01:25:58 piro pppd[1438]: Exit. I get the same error message as you, with the same configuration which worked on my desktop previously -- strange enough it worked some times in the beginning. I thought it was some apt-get upgrade I did, but I can't reconstruct which one. I even purged all network related packages and tried with a freshly installed pppd, but without success. Good to see that I'm not the only one with this problem. Greetings, joachim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's the "debian" way to bind multiple IP addresses to a single NIC???`
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > I realize that Debian still defaults to 2.2.x for installation, but I > would be also be curious to know you're supposed to bind multiple IPs to > a single interface `the Debian way' without IP aliasing (with does still > work with 2.4). this works fine for me: iface eth1 inet static address 172.16.0.106 netmask 255.255.255.0 up ip addr add dev $IFACE 172.16.1.106 down ip addr flush dev $IFACE Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *.wma
Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > DvB wrote: > > >"Sergey A. Ovchar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > >>Hi. > >>Can anyone help me about encoding from subject format to cdr, mp3 or wav for >recording it to the CD's. > >> > >>And how can I play the *.wma's using XMMS ? > >> > >> > > > >.wma stands for "Windows Media Audio" which is a proprietary format > >developed by Microsoft and, hence, cannot be played or decoded on > >Linux. At least I think they can't be played, uless maybe realplayer has > >this capability (which I don't think it does). > > > >You might try searching the internet for "xmms windwos media codec" or > >somesuch, but I doubt you'll be very successful. > > > Any self respecting slashdot reader will remember this article [1] which > announced ffmpeg's [2] groundbreaking wma decoder. I'm not sure if any > work has gone into integrating this into xmms, but atleast you know it > exists. > mplayer tells me == Requested audio codec family [divx] (afm=acm) not available (enable it at compilation!) *** Try to upgrade /home/foo/.mplayer/codecs.conf from etc/codecs.conf *** If it still does not work, read DOCS/codecs.html! Can't find codec for audio format 0x161! == when I try to play wma files from the ubl.com downloads section. I compiled and installed 0.90-pre9-0 using the debian/rules tarball available on the mplayer website. I find it hard to believe that divx wouldn't be enabled by default :-\ > [1] - http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/10/28/1331251&mode=thread > [2] - http://ffmpeg.sourceforge.net/ > > --Mark > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a > subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modem / pon / serial problems
Pigeon wrote: [cut] in the meantime I still want it to copy data from one serial port to the other so I can continue to dial out as normal from the main box. Of course, Linux can't run my DOS program. But there's a package called snooper which seems to do the same thing. So I installed it on the modem box and set it up to connect the external and modem serial ports. Try pon from the main box - nothing. [cut] Since you seem dead-set against buying a couple of NICs... I would take a completely different tack and try using SLIP, so you'll have regular TCP/IP networking going on over the serial line. Then use the "modem PC" as your gateway, and run PPP in demand mode on the modem PC. One of the many beauties of this approach is that when you *do* buy a couple of NICs, and even when you replace your dialup with broadband, you'll still can use the same PC as a gateway. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Broken packages
Hi, Now i've finaly have my debian system up and running with full audio/video etc (pfew, happy) I ran into this issue with packages not being able to install ... Below is my output : -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Broken packages [again::complete]
Hi, Now i've finaly have my debian system up and running with full audio/video etc (pfew, happy) I ran into this issue with packages not being able to install ... Below is my output : mypc:/home/user# apt-get install xmms freetype2 freetype2-dev nautilus nautilus-extra nautilus-suggested --reinstall Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: freetype2-dev: Depends: freetype2 (= 1.3.1-1) nautilus-extra: Depends: nautilus (= 1.0.6-7.1) but 2.0.8-1 is to be installed nautilus-suggested: Depends: nautilus (= 1.0.6-7.1) but 2.0.8-1 is to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages Can anyone tell me if this is likely to be fixed soon ? I've been using stable and testing together wich i hope is a good choice. Regards, Joris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
imapd hanging connections?
On my debian unstable system I have: ii uw-imapd 2002b.debian-5 remote mail folder access server ii uw-imapd-ssl 2002b.debian-5 Dummy upgrade package for uw-imapd My wife connects to this via Mozilla from her desktop (win 2000 for now). Often she'll click the little X to close the window. When she opens a new session it usually won't allow her to connect. A "ps" on my mailserver shows multiple imapd's running. When I kill them off she can connect just fine. Not sure how long this has been a problem, she just told me now it's been going on for a while. Any thoughts? :wq! --- Robert L. Harris | PGP Key ID: E344DA3B @ x-hkp://pgp.mit.edu DISCLAIMER: These are MY OPINIONS ALONE. I speak for no-one else. FYI: perl -e 'print $i=pack(c5,(41*2),sqrt(7056),(unpack(c,H)-2),oct(115),10);' msg28529/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
How can I make Galeon use xmms to play .flac files?
I'n using Galeon, and if I point it to an mo3 file, it hands it to xmms, just fine. However it does not do the same for flac files, even though the version of xmms I have can play flac file fine, f i invoke it speeratly. How can I "teach" Galeon to hand .flac files to xmms? -- "They that would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A question about the "large cursos" package.
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 09:30:54AM -0500, stan wrote: > I've got the Debian "Large Cursor" package installed on one of my Debian > machines, and find it most helpful, as I have vision problems. > > I also work a lot on a FreeBSD machine, and I was wondering where to start > looking on the Debian machine to see how this is implemented, in an effort > to accomplish the same thing on the FreeBSD machine(s). Is this the big-cursor package? If so, it just installs an X font in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/big-cursor.pcf.gz and runs 'update-fonts-dir misc' (which is Debian-specific, so you probably want 'mkfontdir /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc' on FreeBSD). I think that should be all that's required. -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: shuttle disaster
On Monday 03 February 2003 18:38, Daniel Barclay wrote: > Kenward Vaughan wrote: > > ... > > In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be > > _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, > > because passing civilization along from one generation to the next > > ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone > > could have. - Lee Iacocca > > Wouldn't that be society resting on its laurels? And stagnating? > (With no one creating additional civilization.) Socrates was stagnant and resting on his society's laurels? Good teaching inspires creativity. -- Mike M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disk Corruption
Quoted - Here is the information from fdisk -l device boot Start EndBlocks IDSystem /dev/hda1*1243419551073+ 7HPFS/NTFS /dev/hdb1*162497983+ 83Linux /dev/hdb26386996030 82 Linux swap /dev/hdb3 187392130001387+83 Linux /dev/hdb439224164 1951897+ 5 Extended /dev/hdb539224164 1951866 83 Linux --- Early on you said you had 27Gb free. Your extended partition is only 2Gb. Before you go any further, I think it would be good to use fdisk to delete /dev/hdb5 and /dev/hdb4. Remake /dev/hdb4 as extended to use the remainder of the drive. Then make /dev/hdb5 again and reboot to see if it works. If you don't show more than 2 Gb for the extended, then something may be wrong that is not showing your entire drive. How big is that drive? As it is, this is showing that the logical partition is using the whole extended - 2 Gb worth. Anita -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
problem when install x-window-system...
Hi,My friend, Nice to meet you! I using my xbox to install the linux, after apt-get update... I using the apt-get install x-window-system... download around 80%, then stop, display the message... http:// localhost stable/main cpp -2.95 1:2.95 4-7 File does not exist on any server [IP:127.0.0.1:] unable to fetch http://localhost stable/main/g/gcc -2.95 /cpp :2.95... 404f files does not exist on any server [IP:127.0.0.1:] Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix... So how I can fix it? what's wrong here? OK, waiting for your reply. Thanks wolf _ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: imapd hanging connections?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > My wife connects to this via Mozilla from her desktop (win 2000 for > now). Often she'll click the little X to close the window. When she > opens a new session it usually won't allow her to connect. A "ps" on my > mailserver shows multiple imapd's running. When I kill them off she can > connect just fine. > > Not sure how long this has been a problem, she just told me now it's > been going on for a while. > > Any thoughts? I use mozilla on windows with courier-imap, and I find that in order for it to work correctly, I need to go into mozilla's server config advanced options and reduce "cached connections". Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrecord: What does "BURN-Free is OFF" mean?
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 01:24:07PM -0800, Paul E Condon wrote: > >Did you try several CDs created with the new burner, or only one? > > I tried several CDs, and a few variations of the cdrecord options. > Nothing changed the > symptoms. hmm Sorry, I've no good idea on that ... Maybe it helps to use another brand of raw CDs to burn on; even burning them at a slower speed could help. Otherwise, I'd take the burner back to the dealer and get a working one ... :/ GH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modem / pon / serial problems
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:16:48PM +, Pigeon wrote: > get this working, and in the meantime I still want it to copy data > from one serial port to the other so I can continue to dial out as > normal from the main box. There's an NFS option in the kernel config that allows to directly export devices via NFS. Maybe it's easier to export your /dev/modem from one box to the other by NFS as to use sort-of-program and a special cable. I've never tried to directly export devices, though, but maybe it helps. GH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Swap capslock-control in console?
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 04:36:48PM -0500, Daniel Barclay wrote: > Johan Kullstam wrote: > > > > I have swap-caps-ctrl in X, why shouldn't I want it in console too? > > But alas, so many computer users are going through life not knowing > the convenience of having the control key in its easily reachable > original location. hmm You're right, I just switched these keys, and it seems to be very convenient :) It'll just take some time to get used to it. --- Well, Caps_Lock is the most seldomly used key ... On my keyboard, it needs even considerably more force to press that key down as it does with others :) But another question: I'm using a tailored keyboard layout anyway, since the standard German layout is somewhat hindering. I have that layout automatically loaded from my ~/.Xmodmap. Is there a tool that can load that same ~/.Xmodmap on the console or convert the file for use with loadkeys, so that I have the same keyboard layout on X11 and on the console? It's not so nice always having to edit two files to keep the keyboard layouts the same. GH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Default Treatment of the System Clock
During the install, I answered one of the questions wrong - "Is your system clock set to GMT or Local Time". I need to dpkg-reconfigure this, but I have no idea what package had debconf ask me this . . . TIA madmac -- Doug MacFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cdrecord: What does "BURN-Free is OFF" mean?
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 12:09:44PM +1100, Russell wrote: > If so, is ide-scsi needed for reading CDs in > an atapi CD read/writer drive, or only for writing CDs? Think I answered the rest of your points in my last post, but this crossed. ide-scsi is only needed for writing CDs. For reading CDs in an R/W drive, ide-cd is enough. It's an academic point, since trying to set things up to use both ide-cd and ide-scsi on the same R/W drive means rebooting to switch from one to the other, and brings no benefits. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: columbia -- what really happened
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 06:02:21PM +1100, Joyce, Matthew wrote: > > > > Guys...it's a bit sad when some very brave people died in > > Columbia to be talking stuff like this...i agree with Vincent > > that comments like this are not necessary. Spare a moments > > thought (or longer if possible) for those brave Astronauts > > and their families who will no doubt endure a lot of pain for > > a long time at their loss. > > > > I feel sorry for their families, kinda hard to feel sorry for astronauts. Put yourself in their place when the thing started to fall to bits around them... > As for bravery, no I don't think they are brave either. > > Nurses and doctors are brave, firemen are brave. Interesting example. It requires bravery to carry out such a risky procedure as performing open heart surgery on someone. It also requires bravery to submit to it, even when you know you'll probably die quite soon without surgery. It requires more bravery to submit to some other procedure of similar risk, when you have every expectation of a long and healthy life if you back out. Some chap on the news pointed out that the risk of death from open heart surgery and a shuttle flight is about the same. The astronauts, I'm sure, were much more aware of the risks than the average open heart surgery patient. > I wonder how long before US media call the astronauts heros (which they are > not). > > How the US can justify spending so much money on Space while 33 million US > citizens live below the poverty line amazes me. I suspect it's because very few of the politicians have ever wondered where they were going to get their next meal from and where would be a sheltered spot to sleep the night. Pigeon (Apologies to the one or two "anti-OT" posters, but I must wonder: when you're at work, or whatever your "serious time" is, do you spend 100% of the time working, or do you talk to other people about stuff in the news that you have a strong emotional response to?) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Debian and Dell/Gateway
From: Sebastian Canagaratna,Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:22 PM > > Hi: Hi: > I am thinking of buying either a Dell or Gateway Computer. > This is to be used with Debian testing or unstable. I am > particularly worried about hardware incompatibilities, > in particular integrated graphics, sound etc. I could not find > much with a search on google. I would appreciate comments > from thosewho have used these, in particular: > > Is there any problem with installing XFree86 (I would like to have > OpenGL), > Any problem with the drivers for DVDHi: I am thinking of buying > either a Dell or Gateway Computer. > This is to be used with Debian testing or unstable. I am > particularly worried about hardware incompatibilities, > in particular integrated graphics, sound etc. > I would appreciate comments from those who have used these, in > particular: > > Is there any problem with installing XFree86 (I would like to > have OpenGL), > Any problem with the drivers for DVD > > Thanks. Although Dell and Gateway are common machines, and many, many people run Linux on them with no difficulty, I'd like to suggest Compaq, instead. Why? Compaq and HP are now one firm. Internally, HP developers who develop with Linux develop with __Debian__. I'm not trying to suggest that Compaq will have a technical support line for you if you install Debian, but, if all their linux developers develop with Debian, you can be darn sure that the hardware will work. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Phoenix debs for woody?
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 07:08:02PM +0100, Balazs Javor wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know if there are any Woody compatible > debs of Phoenix anywhere? I don't think so. But in this particular case it's not a problem. Phoenix is a "tidy" program; you just unpack the tarball in a directory and run it from there, and everything related to Phoenix stays in that directory. To uninstall it you just rm -rf the directory. It uses the Woody version of libc6 but apart from that is self-contained, so there are no complicated dependencies. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Default Treatment of the System Clock
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 10:05:12AM +, Doug MacFarlane wrote: > During the install, I answered one of the questions wrong - "Is your system > clock set to GMT or Local Time". I need to dpkg-reconfigure this, but I > have no idea what package had debconf ask me this . . . That's base-config, and I believe you can just run 'tzsetup -g'. Alternatively, you could simply edit the value of the UTC variable in /etc/default/rcS. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Flush ip_conntrack
hello there, Does anybody knows how to flush the actives NAT sessions ?? I mean how to flush the ip_conntrack list ? Thx -- Esteban Stephane DESMET [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lm_sensors
* On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 02:19:45PM -0500, karrottop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > I am re-posting this because I was made aware I sent it as a reply to > another post. Sorry about that, so without further adue here is my > intended post now... > > > I am having a great deal of trouble getting lm_sensors to work under > debian. I am pretty sure that I am about 75% on the way to getting this > started but none the less, if someone could give me a bit of a > walk-through to getting things running I would appreciate it. My > intention is mostly to monitor my hardware temp's etc, being that I am > using a water cooled system, and I am a bit uneasy about not knowing the > performance of my system, especially one that is overclocked. If it > matters I am using sid, a soyo motherboard with a via chipset, and > kernel 2.4.20 ( I have built in everything in the i2c portion of > charcter devices ) > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Got hardware sensors working on a few motherboards here and even took notes on how it was done. Perhaps these notes might be useful to you. Notes on Installing sensor support in a Debian system. 0) For the following, it is assumed that a new 2.4.20 kernel was already compiled, installed and working. It is also assumed that the kernel was compiled using the debian kernel build system make-kpkg. The kernel source should be in /usr/src/linux either directly or by a symbolic link. 1) have a working 2.4 series kernel with module support included. Make sure that i2o items are NOT compiled in. Once this kernel is installed and working, the modules are ready to be included. Make sure you are running the kernel to which the modules are to be added. This seems to be the easiest way to make the module version numbers consistent with the kernel version number. 2) obtain the debian packages: i2c-source,lm-sensors, lm-sensors-source, and sensord. Optionally also get other monitors like sensor-sweep-applet, wmsensors or xsensors. The package xsensors is not in woody but getting the source and building it locally using apt-get source works fine. 3) Become root and change to the /usr/src directory. In this directory there will be tar files named i2c.tar.gz and lm-sensors.tar.gz. When these tar files are expanded they write themselves into the /usr/src/modules directory. This directory may already exist if other modules have already been installed in this kernel. 4) Extract the files by "tar zxf i2c.tar.gz" and "tar zxf lm-sensors.tar.gz" 5) cd /usr/src/linux and run the command "make-kpkg modules_image" When the build has completed there will be debian packages in /usr/src named i2c-2.4.19_2.6.5-3+lb.custom.1.1_i386.deb and lm-sensors-2.4.19_2.6.4-3+lb.custom.1.1_i386.deb 6) install these packages with the commands dpkg -i i2c-2.4.19_2.6.5-3+lb.custom.1.1_i386.deb and dpkg -i lm-sensors-2.4.19_2.6.4-3+lb.custom.1.1_i386.deb 7) As root (as always) run the program sensors-detect. This tool sweeps the smbus and determines the devices that are on it. It then reports the chip types and the relevant modules that need to be loaded to get the hardware sensors system working. This program mostly works but does not always work. See the last step for suggestions if the modules were detected incorrectly. 8) Cut and paste the results from sensors-detect into the relevant files as it requests. For one motherboard as an example, the lines: # I2C adapter drivers i2c-viapro # I2C chip drivers w83781d have to be pasted into the file /etc/modules. Then the command update-modules has to be run. Then paste the lines # I2C module options alias char-major-89 i2c-dev into the file /etc/modutils/local Then run the command /etc/init.d/modutils 9) After these steps are completed, the required modules will be loaded. This can be checked by the output of the lsmod command. The output for this example is Module Size Used byTainted: P w83781d19224 0 (unused) i2c-proc6416 0 [w83781d] i2c-viapro 3860 0 (unused) i2c-core 15052 0 [w83781d i2c-proc i2c-viapro] 10) Then reboot the system. If the module system is working correctly then after boot the loaded modules should be identical to the previous output of lsmod 11) To verify that the kernel interface is correctly tied to the hardware run the command "sensors" Typical output in this example is w83782d-i2c-0-2d Adapter: SMBus Via Pro adapter at e800 Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter VCore 1: +1.77 V (min = +1.74 V, max = +1.93 V) (beep) VCore 2: +2.51 V (min = +1.74 V, max = +1.93 V) (beep) +3.3V: +3.32 V (min = +3.13 V, max = +3.45 V
Xandros
Has anyone here used Xandros? I know it is based on Debian, but I wonder if it would be worth the $40 to get their "easier installation" and "better Windows integration" assuming you can still access the standard Debian archives. - Bobman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modem / pon / serial problems
> With this arrangement, pppconfig can't autodetect the modem... Pppconfig uses pppd to "autodetect", but why do you care? You know what port to use. Just select it manually in pppconfig. > But it'll take me a while to get this working... Why? Just set up demand-dialing on it with pppconfig, make it the gateway for your other box, and you'll be off and running. > cat /dev/ttyS1 | tee /dev/ttyS2 &; cat /dev/ttyS2 | tee /dev/ttyS1 & Same > result. pppconfig sends "AT", receives "OK", sends loads of garbage > ending with "Loopback detected", and selects the correct port. pon, > however, sends nothing at all. Pppd expects a real serial port. It could take a long time to get this working. You're doing it the hard way. See above. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem when install x-window-system...
F Wolf7 wrote: Hi,My friend, Nice to meet you! I using my xbox to install the linux, Excellent. after apt-get update... I using the apt-get install x-window-system... download around 80%, then stop, display the message... http:// localhost stable/main cpp -2.95 1:2.95 4-7 File does not exist on any server [IP:127.0.0.1:] unable to fetch http://localhost stable/main/g/gcc -2.95 /cpp :2.95... 404f files does not exist on any server [IP:127.0.0.1:] Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix... Your /etc/apt/sources.list file expects the files to be on your local box; this is probably not the case (unless you've previously downloaded them and stored them on your local hard drive). You might want to post your /etc/apt/sources.list, or just edit it and comment out the line referring to localhost, and see what that does for you. Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Demand PPP
I know that this question has been asked recently, but I obviously must be missing something because I cannot get PPP to work on demand. Currently I use pon/poff to dial into my ISP and get my dynamic IP address. I want to automate the process so that ppp dials out automatically. Here is my current /etc/ppp/options: # /etc/ppp/options # asyncmap 0 auth crtscts lock hide-password modem lcp-echo-interval 30 lcp-echo-failure 4 noipx persist maxfail 3 holdoff 3 # -- Here is my /etc/ppp/peers/provider file: noauth connect "/usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider" defaultroute /dev/ttyS1 38400 # -- end of file -- Here is my /etc/network/interfaces file: # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) auto lo iface lo inet loopback auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 # -- End of file -- Here is what ifconfig reports with ppp0 down. eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:BA:43:8D:B3 inet addr:192.168.1.3 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:65280/48 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:3111 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:193226 (188.6 KiB) loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:0/0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1087 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1087 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:62240 (60.7 KiB) TX bytes:62240 (60.7 KiB) If I add "demand" to /etc/ppp/options and start pon, then I get the following from ifconfig: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:50:BA:43:8D:B3 inet addr:192.168.1.3 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:65280/48 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:3111 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:193226 (188.6 KiB) loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 EtherTalk Phase 2 addr:0/0 UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:1087 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:1087 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:62240 (60.7 KiB) TX bytes:62240 (60.7 KiB) ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:10.64.64.64 P-t-P:10.112.112.112 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Although I think ppp is is demand mode, the modem does not dial out. If I now try to ping an external site, I get an "unknown host" error message. In addition, I get the following in my /var/log/messages log: Feb 4 11:37:31 claire kernel: IN= OUT=ppp0 SRC=10.64.64.64 DST=199.224.86.15 LEN=54 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=45908 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=32786 DPT=53 LEN=34 Feb 4 11:37:31 claire kernel: IN= OUT=ppp0 SRC=10.64.64.64 DST=199.224.86.16 LEN=54 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=45908 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=32786 DPT=53 LEN=34 Feb 4 11:37:31 claire kernel: IN= OUT=ppp0 SRC=10.64.64.64 DST=199.224.86.15 LEN=64 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=45908 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=32786 DPT=53 LEN=44 Feb 4 11:37:31 claire kernel: IN= OUT=ppp0 SRC=10.64.64.64 DST=199.224.86.16 LEN=64 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=45908 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=32786 DPT=53 LEN=44 Feb 4 11:37:31 claire kernel: IN= OUT=ppp0 SRC=10.64.64.64 DST=199.224.86.15 LEN=64 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=45908 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=32786 DPT=53 LEN=44 Feb 4 11:37:31 claire kernel: IN= OUT=ppp0 SRC=10.64.64.64 DST=199.224.86.16 LEN=64 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=45908 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=32786 DPT=53 LEN=44 Feb 4 11:38:01 claire kernel: IN= OUT=ppp0 SRC=10.64.64.64 DST=199.224.86.15 LEN=62 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=48840 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=32786 DPT=53 LEN=42 Feb 4 11:38:01 claire kernel: IN= OUT=ppp0 SRC=10.64.64.64 DST=199.224.86.16 LEN=62 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=48840 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=32786 DPT=53 LEN=42 Feb 4 11:38:01 claire kernel: IN= OUT=ppp0 SRC=10.64.64.64 DST=199.224.86.15 LEN=62 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=48840 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=32786 DPT=53 LEN=42 Feb 4 11:38:01 claire kernel: IN= OUT=ppp0 SRC=10.64.64.64 DST=199.224.86.16 LEN=62 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=48840 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=32786 DPT=53 LEN=42 What have I missed? Thanks for any assistance.
RE: columbia -- what really happened
| How the US can justify spending so much money on Space while 33 million US | citizens live below the poverty line amazes me. The ideology of capitalism puts people with money into power. Benevolent as the may want to be, power corrupts, and they are corrupted by power. From this point of view, the impoverished only have themselves to blame. The impoverished should go get jobs or an education, then jobs. It does not occur to those in power to aid in education, but to cut it. Those in power are, to a certain extent, educated and no longer require education. It's their money and they can spend it how they choose (after all it is capitalism). There are potential economies of scale and new opportunities to make money to be had from space. What better way than to get to those potentials than by getting your government (which you control) to pay you to get to do it! Space shuttles are expensive and you can share the burden with your fellow man. I can suck those tax dollars into my own coffers and still get the space research I desire. It's a win win situation. As hard as they try, putting a socialist blanket over capitalism will never work. There will be class warfare sooner or later, the question is when. The only thing those of us stuck somewhere in the middle can hope for, is that the research paid for by our government accidentally stumbles upon that magic energy formula, bringing us into the Stak Trek economy. Randomly ranting, Brooks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Starting KDM
Hello, I have Woody installed. I wanted to have X support for an ATI Radeon 7500 card so I upgraded to XFree86 version 4.2.0. I downloaded all of the files from the XFree86 website and installed them according to their instructions. I use KDE 2.2.2 as my window manager, and KDM as my login manager. Everything worked fine before the XFree upgrade. However, now when I boot up, Woody goes straight to a console login prompt. I have RTFineM. My /etc/X11/default-display-manager file says /usr/bin/kdm. I have KDM installed. I have run "dpkg-reconfigure kdm" and set kdm as default. When I ran "update-rc.d kdm defaults" it says that 'System startup links for /etc/init.d/kdm' already exists. Still, everytime I boot up, Woody goes straight to a console login prompt. If I then login as user, and then run "startx", then KDE starts up. I want KDM to start up at bootup. What could be wrong? debian_newbie, Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MPG-to-AVI or AVI-to-AVI software
On Mon, 3 Feb 2003 09:41:26 -0500, Narins, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Ronald Castillo, Sunday, February 02, 2003 12:50 PM [...] > > I've been trying to find a program which would allow me to > > convert from MPG to AVI or recompress an AVI movie but I > > haven't found any that works for me. I need a program that > > can compress using DivX 4 codec (DivX 5 won't work) for use > > with the PocketDivx player. > > > > I asked a similar question this weekend, and received the > answers... > > On Win, you want to try VirtualDub. > On Linux, try ffmpeg or transcode [...] Neither of the last two gives you immediate visual feedback. If you like VirtualDub, you should also check out avidemux: http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/ It's now quite usable, with DivX support for the divx.com and the more generic (read: not proprietary) ffmpeg encoder. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: MPG-to-AVI or AVI-to-AVI software
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 12:12:16 -0600, Ryan Nowakowski wrote: > > Try ffmpeg mencoder uses ffmpeg. IOW: if one won't work, neither will the other. > On Sun, Feb 02, 2003 at 06:39:30PM +0100, Ronald Castillo wrote: > > Hello. > > > > I've been trying to find a program which would allow me to > > convert from MPG to AVI or recompress an AVI movie but I > > haven't found any that works for me. I need a program that > > can compress using DivX 4 codec (DivX 5 won't work) for use > > with the PocketDivx player. > > > > I've tried to use Mencoder with no luck... The player won't > > play any AVI files made with that encoder. > > > > I would appreciate any suggestions you could give me. > > > > Thanks for your help. Read the MEncoder docs 10x. Then give up ;-). Seriously, try compiling MPlayer against a certified DivX 4 encoder (google?). Also, try posing a question at divx.com. They're the ones with the trade rights to the name. Maybe they can tell you the difference between PocketDivx and PlainDivx. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: columbia -- what really happened
> Our Father, who art in Redmond > Bill be thy name. > Should Windows 95 come, > Thy Word be run > On Earth as it is in Redmond. > Give us this day our Conventional Memory > And forgive us our GPFs > As we forgive those GPFs that crash our systems > And leave us not at the Blue Screen of Death. > For thine is the BASIC, the DOS and the Windows, > For ever and NT > Press any key to continue... > >-- >Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP >ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting >Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That has got to be one of the funniest things I have read in a while!!! Barry deFreese NTS Technology Services Manager Nike Team Sports (949)-616-4005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Technology doesn't make you less stupid; it just makes you stupid faster." Jerry Gregoire - Former CIO at Dell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *.wma
> >== Requested audio codec family [divx] (afm=acm) not available (enable it > at compilation!) *** Try to upgrade /home/foo/.mplayer/codecs.conf from > etc/codecs.conf *** If it still does not work, read DOCS/codecs.html! > Can't find codec for audio format 0x161! > >== > > when I try to play wma files from the ubl.com downloads section. > > I compiled and installed 0.90-pre9-0 using the debian/rules tarball > available on the mplayer website. I find it hard to believe that divx > wouldn't be enabled by default :-\ Are you sure, you have libavcodec0 and w32codecs installed? The appropriate codec is in either of them. There is no dependency from mplayer to it, so it isn't installed by default. greeetings, Johannes -- "More than machinery we need humanity" -- Charlie Chaplin, The Great Dictator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Starting KDM
Hello, I have Woody installed. I wanted to have X support for an ATI Radeon 7500 card so I upgraded to XFree86 version 4.2.0. I downloaded all of the files from the XFree86 website and installed them according to their instructions. I use KDE 2.2.2 as my window manager, and KDM as my login manager. Everything worked fine before the XFree upgrade. However, now when I boot up, Woody goes straight to a console login prompt. I have RTFineM. My /etc/X11/default-display-manager file says /usr/bin/kdm. I have KDM installed. I have run "dpkg-reconfigure kdm" and set kdm as default. When I ran "update-rc.d kdm defaults" it says that 'System startup links for /etc/init.d/kdm' already exists. Still, everytime I boot up, Woody goes straight to a console login prompt. If I then login as user, and then run "startx", then KDE starts up. I want KDM to start up at bootup. What could be wrong? debian_newbie, Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disk Corruption
The drive is 60GB. You are saying that the extended partition should consume all of the space that may be parceled out as logical partitions, Right? I am going to try it and see. Thanks, Jonathan - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 10:31 AM Subject: Re: Disk Corruption > Quoted - > Here is the information from fdisk -l > device boot Start EndBlocks IDSystem > /dev/hda1*1243419551073+ 7HPFS/NTFS > > /dev/hdb1*162497983+ 83Linux > /dev/hdb26386996030 82 Linux swap > /dev/hdb3 187392130001387+83 Linux > /dev/hdb439224164 1951897+ 5 Extended > /dev/hdb539224164 1951866 83 Linux > > --- > > Early on you said you had 27Gb free. Your extended partition is only 2Gb. > Before you go any further, I think it would be good to use fdisk to delete > /dev/hdb5 and /dev/hdb4. Remake /dev/hdb4 as extended to use the remainder of > the drive. Then make /dev/hdb5 again and reboot to see if it works. > > If you don't show more than 2 Gb for the extended, then something may be wrong > that is not showing your entire drive. How big is that drive? > > As it is, this is showing that the logical partition is using the whole > extended - 2 Gb worth. > > Anita > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Phoenix debs for woody?
On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 21:45, Pigeon wrote: > On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 07:08:02PM +0100, Balazs Javor wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone know if there are any Woody compatible > > debs of Phoenix anywhere? > > I don't think so. But in this particular case it's not a problem. > Phoenix is a "tidy" program; you just unpack the tarball in a > directory and run it from there, and everything related to Phoenix > stays in that directory. To uninstall it you just rm -rf the > directory. It uses the Woody version of libc6 but apart from that is > self-contained, so there are no complicated dependencies. > > Pigeon #Phoenix deb http://people.debian.org/~eric/debian/i386 ./ just as synaptic says, converted from slackware tgz. Works great btw. Elijah -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disk Corruption
Jonathan Brandmeyer said: > The drive is 60GB. You are saying that the extended partition should > consume all of the space that may be parceled out as logical partitions, > Right? I am going to try it and see. > > Thanks, > Jonathan Yes, if you do not have the extended consume all the remaining space, you will not be able to access it. You can have only 4 primary partitions and one of them may be extended. You have 4 and 1 is extended; so the remaining 25 Gb is unavailable. Anita -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disk Corruption
Jonathan Brandmeyer said: > The drive is 60GB. You are saying that the extended partition should > consume all of the space that may be parceled out as logical partitions, > Right? I am going to try it and see. > > Thanks, > Jonathan Yes, if you do not have the extended consume all the remaining space, you will not be able to access it. You can have only 4 primary partitions and one of them may be extended. You have 4 and 1 is extended; so the remaining 25 Gb is unavailable. Anita -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Phoenix debs for woody? - SOLVED
Hi, A big thanks to all who replied me. When I first looked at the Phoenix website I seem to have "got lost" somehow and missed the tarball completely :( Downloading and unzipping it to /usr/local/ worked perfectly! BTW, is there a way to make it use anti-aliased fonts under blackbox? Many thanks again! regards, Balazs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Capitalism (was Re: columbia -- what really happened)
"Brooks R. Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | How the US can justify spending so much money on Space while 33 million US > | citizens live below the poverty line amazes me. > > > As hard as they try, putting a socialist blanket over capitalism will never > work. AFAIK, many European countries have been doing that for some time now. Their citizens have a relatively high purchasing power, yet they still have relatively successful and extensive social programs. The ideology that there must be something wrong with you if you don't make enough money to, not only feed yourself and your family, but also purchase a large house on a large tract of land and at least two cars is almost exclusively American. Of course, like most things American, it's been spreading like a pleague. Not to say that Europe is a utopian society and the US should emulate it to the farthest extent possible, but the current trend of being as exactly oposite as possible is counter-productive, IMHO. There definitely are some things to be learned from the European model. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disk Corruption
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > /dev/hdb1*162497983+ 83Linux > /dev/hdb26386996030 82 Linux swap > /dev/hdb3 187392130001387+83 Linux > /dev/hdb439224164 1951897+ 5 Extended > /dev/hdb539224164 1951866 83 Linux > Early on you said you had 27Gb free. Your extended partition is only 2Gb. > Before you go any further, I think it would be good to use fdisk to delete > /dev/hdb5 and /dev/hdb4. Remake /dev/hdb4 as extended to use the remainder of > the drive. Then make /dev/hdb5 again and reboot to see if it works. -snip- > Anita > Done. I should have recognized the size discrepancy. My new partitions for hdb4 and hdb5 are: /dev/hdb43922 - 7299type5Extended /dev/hdb53922 - 4180type83Linux (unformatted) Also re-ran Lilo, and this did not solve the problem. As the long string of "01 01 01 " is scrolling by, the hdd light is lit without thrashing => slow read of something, right? What if the boot sector for hda1 is causing problems somehow? What happens if I toggle the boot flag on hda1 -> off? Will that force the lilo-occupied hdb1 to be booted? Does it affect the ability to boot WinXP? Not that I can boot into windows right now, anyway. Even though we don't seem to be getting anywhere, I am grateful for your help. Jonathan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: columbia -- what really happened
On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 12:02, deFreese, Barry wrote: > > Our Father, who art in Redmond > > Bill be thy name. > > Should Windows 95 come, > > Thy Word be run > > On Earth as it is in Redmond. > > Give us this day our Conventional Memory > > And forgive us our GPFs > > As we forgive those GPFs that crash our systems > > And leave us not at the Blue Screen of Death. > > For thine is the BASIC, the DOS and the Windows, > > For ever and NT > > Press any key to continue... > > > >-- > >Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP > >ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting > >Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 > >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > That has got to be one of the funniest things I have read in a while!!! > > Barry deFreese > NTS Technology Services Manager > Nike Team Sports > (949)-616-4005 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Technology doesn't make you less stupid; it just makes you stupid faster." > Jerry Gregoire - Former CIO at Dell I was afraid it might be too dated - I wrote it when I heard the rumour, and shared it with three or four people. One emailed it on to a few friends, and it did work its way around the Internet for a stretch. All that said, isn't "Press any key to continue..." the equivalent to finishing a prayer or incantation to a computer to accomplish a task? -- Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: pyslsk on woody
Oh no no, I couldn't even start pyslsk. But anyway, I found an APT repository with the pyslsk for woody :) I searched for soulseek on freshmeat, and voila! Unfortunately, at this moment, the slsk.org is off-line. :( Thanks anyway []s Rodrigo On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Kai Weber wrote: > * Rodrigo Gruppelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I noticed that woody does have python2.2, and I tried to install this and > > some other libs that pyslsk requires, but I had no success running pyslsk > > on woody. > > In what way does it fail? Error messages? > > BTW, maybe your problem has to do with the not available SoulSeek server > at the moment? > > -- > » [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.glorybox.de > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: columbia -- what really happened
(sigh) We're drifting farther and farther off-topic here, but what the hell... Brooks R. Robinson wrote: > | How the US can justify spending so much money on Space while 33 million US > | citizens live below the poverty line amazes me. Actually, the answer to this one is quite simple. There are lots of things in the world that are worth doing. Trying to help the poor is one. Exploring space is another. You can't run a society by focusing all resources on the one thing that somebody thinks is most important, and neglecting all the others. Furthermore, I seem to recall reading somewhere that the economic definition of "poverty" is simply the standard of living of the poorest 15% of the people. Given that the USA has more than 200 million people, this implies that 30 million or so of those people are "in poverty" BY DEFINITION, no matter what their standard of living is actually like. Also consider that the standard of living of most poor people in the USA is better in many ways than the standard of living of _most_people_ just a century ago. Those that aren't actually living in the streets typically have running water, electricity, and at least some access to modern medical care by way of free clinics, if not employer-provided health insurance. They aren't well-off compared to the average citizen, but the typical "poor" person in the USA is bloody rich compared to the average citizen of many other countries. > The ideology of capitalism puts people with money into power. No, money is one form of power. The rich always have more influence than the poor. This is as true in communist countries as it is anywhere else. The difference is that in communist countries, one becomes rich by playing the Communist Party game well rather than by doing anything worthwhile, like manipulating the stock market, cheating the elderly out of their life savings, or raping third-world countries (sorry, my cynicism is showing). > Benevolent as they may want to be, power corrupts, and they are > corrupted by power. Power can be corruptive, but I don't think most politicians need power to become corrupt. They usually started out pretty corrupt. This applies as much to the Maxine Waters/Barbara Boxer liberals as to the Henry Hyde/Trent Lott conservatives. If you think _any_ politician, from the far left through the center to the far right, has your best interests at heart, you're a fool. People who want political power are almost always the last people who should actually have it. > From this point of view, the impoverished only have themselves to > blame. The impoverished should go get jobs or an education, then jobs. I _almost_ agree with this. People start out in widely varying circumstances; some come from rich families and have all sorts of privileges available to them, while others are impoverished and lacking opportunities, and most are somewhere between those extremes. I am in favor of effective programs, both government-funded and otherwise, that make opportunities available to those who lack them. Given such programs, if you remain poor and uneducated, it's not for lack of opportunity, but lack of the initiative and/or persistence to do something with those opportunities, or some other basic life problem that prevents you from functioning in society. However, the kinds of programs I would like to see aren't necessarily available today, certainly not everywhere, and where they do exist, they aren't always run well and aren't necessarily targeting the people who really need them. Of course, from the kind of far-left perspective you seem to be coming from, such programs would be a disaster, because they would lead the poor into becoming just another bunch of aspiring capitalists, not the kind of proletarian revolutionaries you seem to want. Having poor people join the capitalist middle class does not in any way lead to a socialist worker's paradise. So as a good little leftist, you ought to be against anything that would improve the lot of the poor in a capitalist country, because the more miserable and downtrodden they are, the more likely they'll join the revolution. Oddly enough, that explains quite a lot about the policies favored by the typical leftist... Craig -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disk Corruption
Jonathan Brandmeyer said: > > Done. I should have recognized the size discrepancy. My new partitions for > hdb4 and hdb5 are: > /dev/hdb43922 - 7299type5Extended > /dev/hdb53922 - 4180type83Linux (unformatted) > > Also re-ran Lilo, and this did not solve the problem. As the long string of > "01 01 01 " is scrolling by, the hdd light is lit without thrashing => slow > read of something, right? > > What if the boot sector for hda1 is causing problems somehow? What happens > if I toggle the boot flag on hda1 -> off? Will that force the lilo-occupied > hdb1 to be booted? Does it affect the ability to boot WinXP? Not that I > can boot into windows right now, anyway. > > Even though we don't seem to be getting anywhere, I am grateful for your > help. > > Jonathan I didn't think that would help the problem, but at least it was something to fix. I'm thinking there is another way to make sure that you are using the LILO that is getting written. Try writing it to a floppy. Edit /etc/lilo.conf and put boot=/dev/fd0 in place of boot=/dev/hda Then put a floppy in and run /sbin/lilo. Leave the floppy in and boot. If that works, then you can figure out what to set for booting. Does your lilo.conf say that boot=/dev/hda1? Maybe that is the problem. I know you have xp and I'm not sure if writing it to /dev/hda instead of /dev/hda1 would be a good idea. Well, try the floppy thing and see what happens with that. How are you booting XP, btw? Anita -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: shuttle disaster
Hal Vaughan wrote: On Monday 03 February 2003 11:45 pm, Alex Malinovich wrote: On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 21:46, Pigeon wrote: Alchemy is an interesting example... Of course, alchemy itself is possible, because people used to do it. They were called alchemists. The fact that they never achieved their fabled goals is because the discipline they were following was mostly a pile of mystical bollocks with very little scientific method. Now, we know that it is possible to turn lead into gold, but it is not currently practical to do it on more than the minutest scale. To extend one's lifespan is not Actually, an interesting point of note is the fact that alchemists sought to transmute LEAD into gold, and not something like helium into gold. So obviously, intentionally or not, they had some basic knowledge of atomic mass. (Probably a rudimentary one based on the observations of physical mass, but an understanding none the less.) That, in turn, rather dismisses the point of this being "mystical rhetoric" and, instead, brings it into the realm of scientific pursuits. -Alex Actually, alchemists were not interested in the transmutation of the physical element of lead to physical gold. These were only metaphorical. In this discussion and in a parallel one, about "What Really Happend With the Columbia" (or something close), there have been some rather strong statements against the Bible and astrology. Just a side note to avoid the, "How would you know?" questions, let me say I do not take the Bible literally (I don't use it much at all -- I prefer other "sacred" texts) and I am not an astrologer. However, I have many friends who vary in conviction from athiest to "new-age metaphysicians" to funtamental Christians. I've also studied many faiths and beliefs. Alchemists were linked with astrology for a very good reason: both groups were interested in self improvement and spiritual growth. The only problem is, if one lived in the Holy Roman Empire, or most of Europe after the fall of the HRE, and one had beliefs other than those espoused by the Roman Catholic Church, one would find one's self in deep trouble (for example, you may have heard of something called The Spanish Inquisition). Those who were working on these disciplines hid what they were doing behind other claims and pursuits. It was far easier to let the church believe they were turning actual lead into gold than to let the church know that all the astrological and alchemical symbols and writings REALLY applied to spiritual concepts that did not fit under the umbrella of the Church's dogma. I've noticed, in the computer world, that many people are quick to dismiss the Bible as well as astrology (or anything that is faith based). I'd just like to comment that I know astrologers that have studied astronomy. I have yet to see an astronomer (or any type of scientist) who has done anything more in studying astrology than reading their horoscope in the paper (which, btw, serious astrologers scoff at). I know people in teaching and psychology who effectively use astrology in their work (without telling anyone, of course). I'm not saying it works. I'm just pointing out that the common belief of what alchemists were doing is wrong and that people who want to discount or denigrate any matters of faith should take the time to study what they want to denounce. (You can always start with any of the works by the ever popular Joseph Campbell.) I'm not trying to start a flame war -- I'm just trying to clarify a few mis-understandings. Hal Alchemists had three generally accepted goals: the transformation of base metals into gold, the discovery of a universal solvent, and the discovery of 'the elixir of life' . Like scientists today, they looked to the sovereign (the government of the time) for funding for their research. In their search for funds, they would let the sovereign believe that there was some possibility that their research would yield practical results, such as changing real lead into real gold. They did not find an exlixir of life. They did not find the universal solvent. They did not change real lead into real gold. They lost their funding. Is there a parallel to alchemy in the modern world? Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
bash brace expansion question
Why is
echo /path/to/dir/*.{jpg,JPG,jpeg,JPEG}
illegal?
TIA
Drew Cohan
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Re: columbia -- what really happened
> the hell... > > Brooks R. Robinson wrote: > >> | How the US can justify spending so much money on Space while 33 >> | million US citizens live below the poverty line amazes me. > > [ ... ] > > [ ... ] Having poor people join the capitalist middle class does > not in any way lead to a socialist worker's paradise. So as a good > little leftist, you ought to be against anything that would improve > the lot of the poor in a capitalist country, because the more > miserable and downtrodden they are, the more likely they'll join > the revolution. > > [ ... ] Yes, all this is indeed OT, despite how interesting it is. I can tell that we're getting very close to the point where Hitler is going to be mentioned, so that we can then put Godwin's law into effect. Oh! ... I already mentioned him. OOPS ... -- Lloyd Zusman [EMAIL PROTECTED] God bless you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: *.wma
Johannes Zarl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >== Requested audio codec family [divx] (afm=acm) not available (enable it > > at compilation!) *** Try to upgrade /home/foo/.mplayer/codecs.conf from > > etc/codecs.conf *** If it still does not work, read DOCS/codecs.html! > > Can't find codec for audio format 0x161! > > > >== > > > > when I try to play wma files from the ubl.com downloads section. > > > > I compiled and installed 0.90-pre9-0 using the debian/rules tarball > > available on the mplayer website. I find it hard to believe that divx > > wouldn't be enabled by default :-\ > > Are you sure, you have libavcodec0 and w32codecs installed? The > appropriate codec is in either of them. There is no dependency from > mplayer to it, so it isn't installed by default. > Ah. Therein lay my problem. Mplayer really isn't very good at buffering wma streams, though. Closing windows or changing desktops while one is playing makes the sound stop for a second or two (of course, I'm running it on a PII-233, but still...) Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: columbia -- what really happened
>I was afraid it might be too dated - I wrote it when I heard the rumour, >and shared it with three or four people. One emailed it on to a few >friends, and it did work its way around the Internet for a stretch. > >All that said, isn't "Press any key to continue..." the equivalent to >finishing a prayer or incantation to a computer to accomplish a task? >-- >Mark L. Kahnt, FLMI/M, ALHC, HIA, AIAA, ACS, MHP >ML Kahnt New Markets Consulting >Tel: (613) 531-8684 / (613) 539-0935 >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amen brother!! :-) Barry deFreese NTS Technology Services Manager Nike Team Sports (949)-616-4005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Technology doesn't make you less stupid; it just makes you stupid faster." Jerry Gregoire - Former CIO at Dell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: How do you delete old keyrings that are incorrect?
I have several OLD keys that are out there & I want to remove them from the public keyservers. How is it done? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash brace expansion question
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 01:10:45PM -0500, Drew Cohan wrote:
> Why is
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> echo /path/to/dir/*.{jpg,JPG,jpeg,JPEG}
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> illegal?
It's not, merely not portable to POSIX shells other than bash. However,
you may want to 'shopt -s nullglob' in case some of the parts of that
wildcard don't expand to anything.
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Re: knowledge
will trillich wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 07:52:23PM -0500, Antonio Rodriguez wrote: Knowledge can't be generated. Humans don't generate knowledge, they acquire it. Didn't you get the hint, so clear back then, that several human units would discover the same facts at the same time in different parts of the planet? It was a very clear hint, that as usual we blind units just dismissed. you must be talking about how three movies come out in the same year and they're all about the same topic. ;) this may be either semantics or vocabulary -- knowledge doesn't exist, per se -- there is no such thing. it's an aspect of a mammalian mind. saying "it can't be generated" sidesteps the nature of the subject. WE percieve data, WE figure out it's relevant and how, at which point it becomes information to us; when WE can (tho we may choose not to) use that info for some purpose -- even if only to know when to change the channel -- it becomes knowledge to us. sure, we can share our knowledge with others and they'll construct a conceptual model that -- depending on their understanding of our syntax -- will mimic our own. whether you use "construct" or "extract" to describe it is insignificant. until we do share it with others, the knowledge is something we have gained and they have not. "knowledge" is about as abstract as you can get. quibbling over whether your knowledge-gaining process should be called "generation" or "derivation" is semantics only, and doesn't change the fact that it was you who gained it. I am a Christian in the sense that I have been baptized, and have learned some of the teachings. It is the belief of many Christians that there is an 'omniscient' creator. Omniscient means that He knows everything, or, if he doesn't know it, its not really 'knowledge'. And, as a consequence, all real knowledge exists outside of time. Although, I do not personally hold to this view, one should be aware of its existence and cultural history. Also, there really is some 'scientific' legitimacy to this view. Suppose, all human life were to perish. In that case would the value of pi (3.14...) perish as well? (Oh, yes. Pi is data, not knowledge. But is that really an answer?) Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vpn recommendation?
> another guy firmly reccomended CIPE, haven't tried it myself, but it's > probably good too. CIPE is very stable and performs well, but is best for static links -- e.g., tying a pair of offices together over the internet, or tying your house to work in a setup where the IP address of $your_house doesn't change much. IMHO it's a pain for the "road warrior" setup (a sales guy with his laptop who's going to have a different ip address every time he's on the net). -- thanks, Will -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Starting KDM
Jerry Van Brimmer wrote: Hello, I have Woody installed. I wanted to have X support for an ATI Radeon 7500 card so I upgraded to XFree86 version 4.2.0. I downloaded all of the files from the XFree86 website and installed them according to their instructions. I use KDE 2.2.2 as my window manager, and KDM as my login manager. Everything worked fine before the XFree upgrade. However, now when I boot up, Woody goes straight to a console login prompt. I have RTFineM. My /etc/X11/default-display-manager file says /usr/bin/kdm. I have KDM installed. I have run "dpkg-reconfigure kdm" and set kdm as default. When I ran "update-rc.d kdm defaults" it says that 'System startup links for /etc/init.d/kdm' already exists. Still, everytime I boot up, Woody goes straight to a console login prompt. If I then login as user, and then run "startx", then KDE starts up. I want KDM to start up at bootup. What could be wrong? I assume when you say "login as user", you mean as a non-root user? What happens when you (as root) run "/etc/init.d/kdm start" (prior to starting X)? It's supposed to start kdm; the results of manually running this may give us another clue or two. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /etc/chatscripts/provider
Problem fixed---I had first run pppconfig and later tried to edit /etc/chatscripts/provider and /etc/ppp/peers/provider files not realizing that pppconfig had already taken care of those files. My 'editing' messed up things. I cleaned out the two files plus pppconfig and started fresh on pppconfig. I checked the two files and sure enough pppconfig had entered the data there. ISP log on is fine now, gnome's monitor applet shows data send/receive is working and the net is accessible. Now I can put apt to work. Incidently, I have two installations of Debian on this computer (one,for trouble shooting). I wasn't able to log on with either one because of my unnecessary 'editing'. Why don't THEY tell us these things? Thanks, guys Alex Donald Spoon wrote: alex wrote: I had no problem configuring /etc/chatscripts/provider in Progeny Debian but the one in Debian Woody has a different format that gives me a problem. I can't figure out what kind of data should be entered and how it should be entered. I couldn't find any info about this. 1. What data should be entered? Examples would be helpful. 2. Should the # be removed and the data entered on the same line or should the the original # be retained and the data entered on the next line without a # ? --/etc.chatscripts/provider # This chatfile was generated by pppconfig 2.0.10. # Please do not delete any of the comments. Pppconfig needs them. # # ispauth PAP # abortstring ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT 'NO DIAL TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER' ABORT DELAYED # modeminit '' ATZ # ispnumber # ispconnect # prelogin # ispname< Quite sure what goes here # isppassword< " """" # postlogin # end of pppconfig stuff By far the easiest way to get the /etc/chatscripts/provider file is to run the pppconfig program and fill in the blanks. This will generate the appropriate script automatically. If it doesn't work after this, THEN you consider editing the file rather than starting from scratch. From the example provided, it appears you have not done the initial stuff but are starting with the original file. Here is a "fake" chatscript I just generated as an example of what worked for me: # This chatfile was generated by pppconfig 2.1. # Please do not delete any of the comments. Pppconfig needs them. # # ispauth PAP # abortstring ABORT BUSY ABORT 'NO CARRIER' ABORT VOICE ABORT 'NO DIALTONE' ABORT 'NO DIAL TONE' ABORT 'NO ANSWER' ABORT DELAYED # modeminit '' ATZ # ispnumber OK-AT-OK ATDT1234567 <--- new line added # ispconnect CONNECT \d\c <--- new line added # prelogin # ispname # isppassword # postlogin # end of pppconfig stuff Note the items added to your example. In addition to generating the appropriate /etc/chatscripts/provider file, pppconfig also sets up your PAP/CHAP authentication and the /etc/ppp/peers/provider files. The pppconfig program is your friend and will save you a lot of hair-pulling and de-bugging, IMHO. Cheers, -Don Spoon- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Permissions on /usr/src/kernel-source-x.y.z and compiling as an ordinary user
Team: Up to now, I've been building my kernels as root. In fact, doing everything as root. Installing the source, compiling, and installing the resultant kernel. But this group seems to think that sound practice would be to only use root to download/install the kernel-source (via apt-get) and install the kernel (via dpkg -i) and do everything else as an ordinary user, via fakeroot. That said, after apt-getting the kernel-source, what permissions do you suggest be set on the /usr/src/kernel-source-x.y.z directory, and what group membership do you recommend/. By default, /usr/src has gid src, and group permissions are rws, which I assume means SGID . . . but the bunzipped and untarred src package directory is set 755 with a GID of root . . . What do you folks recommend? After untarring the source: add my ordinary user to group src chgrp -R src /usr/src/kernel-source-x.y.z chmod -R 775 /usr/src/kernel-source-x.y.z and then be an ordinary user for: fakeroot make-kpkg clean copy /boot/config .config make kpkg xconfig fakeroot make-kpkg clean fakeroot make-kpkg kernel-image is that it? madmac -- Doug MacFarlane [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lilo.conf parameters for Radeon 7000 framebuffer [was: hi everybody]
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 12:43:54PM +0100, boukhairi wrote: > Does any one know what kind > of information i'v got to > put into lilo.conf (line append = "") to > define resolution of the frame > buffer on a radeon 7000 > (not vesa, as i know it cannot be over > 1280x1024, isn'it ?) > > example for a matrox graphic card: > append="video=matrox:mem:16318,xres:1408,yres:1056,depth:16,fh:74.514,fv:59.995" > > > > thanx for all > -- > Boukhairi Abderahim > INRA BIA > 0561285065 > ~*-,._.,-*~''~*-,._.,-*~''~HUMEUR,-*~''~*-,._.,-*~''~*-,._.,-*~ > Les lois ne font plus les hommes, mais quelques hommes font la loi. > D. Balavoine. > ~*-,._.,-*~''~*-,._.,-*~''~FIN-HUMEUR,-*~''~*-,._.,-*~''~*-,._.,-*~ > 10101000 binaire = 125736 octal = 43998 decimal = ABDE hexadecimal > ;) I can't answer your question, but I've reposted it with a subject line that doesn't look like spam from a German dating site. That way, someone who does know the answer is more likely to read it. Pigeon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flush ip_conntrack
On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 06:39:55PM +0100, Esteban wrote: > hello there, > Does anybody knows how to flush the actives NAT sessions ?? > I mean how to flush the ip_conntrack list ? I'd also would like to know this. I have a situation where some NAT rules are loaded at a special time, but requests to those unNATTED addresses aren't replied because ip_conntrack.o sets the timeout value in /proc/net/ip_conntrack back to the default (especially for proto ICMP). Thanks Willi -- take window~1 for when quality, reliability and security aren't that important. msg28582/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Phoenix debs for woody? - SOLVED
-- Balazs Javor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Tuesday, 04 February 2003, 06:43 PM +0100): > A big thanks to all who replied me. > When I first looked at the Phoenix website I seem to > have "got lost" somehow and missed the tarball completely :( > > Downloading and unzipping it to /usr/local/ worked perfectly! > > BTW, is there a way to make it use anti-aliased fonts under > blackbox? I think (I'm very likely wrong) that any AA fonts used by Phoenix are going to come out of your .gtkrc -- if gtk is detected on your machine it grabs the current theme in creating its GUI. So check and see if you've got GTK configured to use AA and/or your theme is using it. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: knowledge
Paul E Condon wrote: > Suppose, all human life were to perish. In that case would the value of > pi (3.14...) perish as well? The value of pi is dependent on the geometrical concept of a "circle" having a "radius" and a "circumference". These are human-created ideas, not a priori "facts" existing in the universe. So if there were no humans around (nor any other beings that view the world similarly), then pi would have no meaning. A slightly better (because seemingly less abstract) example would be gravity. Without humans, would there still be a gravitational force? Or to put it another way, did Newton "discover" or "create" gravity? Well, on the one hand, objects behave today just as they did before Newton, and will presumably continue to behave the same way if Newton and his works are forgotten. But to say that there is a "force" of gravity is not a statement about the universe; it is a mental model, essentially a metaphor, that is useful for describing the observed behavior of the universe. To say that "There is a force called 'gravity' which draws masses together" is semantically imprecise. It is better to say, "Objects in the observable universe behave AS IF there were a force which draws masses together." Gravitational force is a metaphor, not a fact, created by humans as a way of describing the observed (by humans) behavior of objects. It has no necessary value to other (hypothetical) beings who may view the world quite differently and may have come up with their own ways of talking about the phenomena they observe. So without humans, in a sense there would be no more gravity -- not that the universe would behave any differently in consequence. Craig msg28584/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Capitalism (was Re: columbia -- what really happened)
DvB wrote: AFAIK, many European countries have been doing that for some time now. Their citizens have a relatively high purchasing power, yet they still have relatively successful and extensive social programs. The ideology that there must be something wrong with you if you don't make enough money to, not only feed yourself and your family, but also purchase a large house on a large tract of land and at least two cars is almost exclusively American. Of course, like most things American, it's been spreading like a pleague. Not to say that Europe is a utopian society and the US should emulate it to the farthest extent possible, but the current trend of being as exactly oposite as possible is counter-productive, IMHO. There definitely are some things to be learned from the European model. why do I get the impression that some people on this list forget that Debian is an international project ? This whole thread seems to be treating the rest of the world like some distant scenery. and BTW Europe is made up of lots of countries, there is more than one model ! -- Sean London England -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: shuttle disaster
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 17:01, Kenward Vaughan wrote: > On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 10:26:57AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > ... > > As much of a fan of "space" science fiction that I am, the pragmatist > > in me must wonder if space planes will ever become practical until > > some new, relatively compact and light-weight, thrust generating energy > > source is invented. > > > > Also, the *incredible* re-enrty speeds and friction will have to some- > > how be ameliorated. (We're all impressed when the SR-71 travels at > > Mach 3 at 26,000 meters, and it's titanium body expands so much to seal > > the fuel tanks, but Columbia was traveling at Mach 17 and the nose of > > the craft was so hot that it turned the atmosphere into plasma!) > > > > And it goes w/o saying that artificial gravity (that can be powered by > > the same enery source that propells the ship) will have to be invented > > so that man's skeletal system won't fall apart during prolonged space > > travel. (Also, imagine how huch easier it would make eating, sleeping, > > shaving, deficating, etc...) > > > > Saddened, > > Ron > > Of course, to get there, we have to continue pushing... BUT... in which direction do we push? Do we (well, does NASA, but you know what I mean) continue to spend BILLIONS flying the Shuttles (for a couple of weeks per trip), and yet more BILLIONS to let a few astronauts live up in the tiny ISS? Or... do we put all the money into as-yet-unknown radically different propulsion technologies? > (Not suggesting your post implied otherwise, but someone is already shouting > that in this neck of the woods.) Those who do are mush-brains who have a distorted understanding of compasssion. -- ++ | Ron Johnson, Jr. Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA http://members.cox.net/ ron.l.johnson | || | "For me and windows it became a matter of easy to start| | with, and becoming increasingly difficult to be produc- | | tive as time went on, and if something went wrong very| | difficult to fix, compared to linux's large over head | | setting up and learning the system with ease of use and | | the increase in productivity becoming larger the longer I | | use the system." | | Rohan Nicholls , The Netherlands | ++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
