Re: Mutt and mounted file system via nfs

[Dave Sherohman]

On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 05:02:25PM -0800, Henry House wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 06:47:49PM -0500, Francois Fayard wrote:
> > I have a problem with mutt and /mnt/mail/fayard with is my mailbox
> > (/usr/mail is mounted via nfs). Mutt can read this mailbox but can't write
> > on it. I don't think it is a permission problem since pine has no problem
> > to write on that file. So my suspection is on mutt.
> 
> This is because one or both of the machines is not running lockd. (That is in
> the package nfs-common).

The server side also needs to run the kernel nfsd (compile the kernel with
NFS server support and install the knfsd package) for locking to work well
enough to make mutt happy.

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Today's woody update -- obsolete/local packages

[Bob Nielsen]

After today's woody update there are many packages shown in dselect as
obsolete/local.  The Packages file was much smaller than the previous
version.  What's up?

-- 
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Re: .scr files

[Ethan Benson]

On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 09:58:36PM -0800, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know what a .scr file is? Have received several attachments with 
> varios names. latest is midget.scr .. have no idea as I don't know the 
> extention. Is this some type of virus?

its a windows screensaver executable i think.  its also a virus.  

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Re: Debian & Apt-get

[Thomas Wegner]

Hi Chris! Am Don, 14 Dez 2000 schrieb Chris:

> Does any one know how I can get a listing of the commands and their
> function?
I think man apt-get or apt-get --help will give you some answers. Perhaps
may may take a look at /usr/doc/...

Bye...Thomas

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Re: LaTeX and PDF-files

[Eric G . Miller]

On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 06:38:55PM +0100, Thomas Halahan wrote:
> 
> meant to add this my my 1st reply,
> 
> I have heard that you can embed javascript in pdflatex files for 
> presentations, for example.
> 
> does anyone know if this is true?

Yes. I saw a presentation or some such about it.  Have a look around
www.tug.org.

-- 
Eric G. Miller 

Re: Debian & Apt-get

[will trillich]

On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 07:24:07AM +0100, Thomas Wegner wrote:
> Hi Chris! Am Don, 14 Dez 2000 schrieb Chris:
> 
> > Does any one know how I can get a listing of the commands and their
> > function?
> I think man apt-get or apt-get --help will give you some answers. Perhaps
> may may take a look at /usr/doc/...

apt-get --help
man apt-get

cd /usr/share/doc/apt

cd /usr/share/doc/apt-move

cd /usr/share/doc/aptitude

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Re: Banner server avoidence

[kmself]

on Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 10:33:02PM -0600, John Hasler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Lee Elliott writes:
> > I saw this in a posting in an Amiga mailing list that I'm still
> > subscribed to:
> > 
> > >The first place Genesis looks for anything is in db/hosts, and
> > > if the ad-servers are listed there it will attempt to get the
> > > banners from the address given there. Since there are none,
> > > the banner command will simply fail.
> > 
> > and wondered if there was some way I could do something similar in
> > Debian?
> 
> I just put ad servers in /etc/hosts with an IP of 127.0.0.1.

See my post.

I believe this is an acceptable solution.  It may incur a timeout.
However, the solution doesn't scale to multiple servers.  By blocking at
the DNS level, ***ALLL*** systems in a network are effectively blocked
from the rogue sites.

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Re: .scr files

[David Purton]

On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:

> 
> Does anyone know what a .scr file is? Have received several attachments with 
> varios names. latest is midget.scr .. have no idea as I don't know the 
> extention. Is this some type of virus?
> 

normally, they are win95 screen savers.

I've also received this one, and when I complained to the isp it come
from, they replied saying it was a virus *shrug* at least stupid windows
virus's don't bother me.



Today people in droves hurry up past Heumoz to Villars 
on the road to the ski hills, so they can rush down them
as fast as possible, so they can hurry up again in order
to rush down again.  In a way this is funny,...

Francis A Schaeffer

David Purton

http://www.chariot.net.au/~dcpurton/
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Re: KDE2 on potato

[Cajus Pollmeier]

Am Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2000 00:43 schrieb Matthew Dalton:
> Cajus Pollmeier wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Just upgraded KDE2 on a potato machine. Now "startx" or "kdm" don't work
> > claiming:
> >
> > ksplash: error in loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3:
> > undefined symbol: getButtonShift__14QPlatinumStyleRiT1
>
> You're probably missing the /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3 file. Have you
> checked to see if it's there?

Yep. I checked this before. Sorry that I didn't mention it.
Just did an "apt-get upgrade" on a working potato installation.

-Cajus

No cut/paste?

[Robert L. Harris]

I just did a dist-upgrade of my woody box and now I can't cut and paste
between my xterms or ETerms anymore...

Robert


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making bootable CD iso images ?

[will trillich]

what packages would a brand-new debian machine (potato)
require in order to create ISO images for burning onto CD
that would make the cd bootable?

it'd be nice to have a bootable CD with maybe a few variable
settings files pulled off floppy. is this feasible? how?


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nvidia geforce2 mx overclocking in linunx?

[Bostjan Muller]

Hi!

I have found articles all over internet how to overclock nvidia's geforce2 mx
in windooze... since nvidias card's are around 10% slower in linux I thought I
would overclock it in linux, but I couldn't since there is no programe to do
it, at least none that I know of. A friend of mine said he saw something about
the topic, but could not remember nor the name nor the URL.  So I am wondering
if any of you knows anything about overclocking nvidia's geforce2 mx under
linux?

THX in advance!

Bostjan
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package pools

[John Beining]

Is the package file dd. 12/18/00 
/dists/woody/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz complete? Where are the links with the 
files in the pools?

apt-get source question

[Peter Hugosson-Miller]

This is an abbreviated re-post. My original posting is in the archives
here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0012/msg01267.html

Is there a way to find out exactly from where apt-get is planning to
fetch a particular package?

The reason I need to know this is because of a bug in apt-get, found
and reported by a few people before me... (see original posting).

What I want to do is to make a list of the packages that are going
to be installed, together with the intended fetch location and the
relevant dependencies. A bit like this:

foo is located on "Debian 2.2r0 Binary 1"
-> bar is located on "Debian 2.2r0 Binary 2"
-> bob is located on "Debian 2.2r0 Binary 1"

Where foo depends on bar and bob, but bob doesn't depend on bar.
Armed with this information I would do "apt-get install bar" then
"apt-get install foo", and it would work, as foo and bob are on
the same CD.

Any script ideas gratefully received!

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Re: Installing new software under (debian/storm linux)

[Tor Slettnes]

> "dem0nline" == dem0nline  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

dem0nline> I just installed Storm Linux and I am have a question
dem0nline> about adding new software to my machine. When I run
dem0nline> dpkg -i someapp.deb it tells me that it fails about a
dem0nline> dozen dependencies. Is there some easy way to install
dem0nline> all the dependencies without manually downloading and
dem0nline> installing each one of them.  I remember in FreeBSD
dem0nline> when you install a port and if it fails dependencies
dem0nline> then it will automatically download and install those
dem0nline> too.  Is there any similar feature in Storm Linux?

Yes.

apt-get install 

will get all dependencies as well.

If it complains, add the following lines to /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free

deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main 
contrib non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main 
contrib non-free



-tor

Re: A step backward for woody?

[Tor Slettnes]

> "walt" == walt  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

walt> Am I hallucinating, or did the woody ftp sites just take a
walt> step backward in time today?

[tale of packages downgraded]

walt> I feel like I just came thru the Twilight Zone...

No, you are just running your machine faster than the speed of light.

-tor

Scanner support??

[Angel Parra]

Hello,



 I have a Tawain scanner, it's a pararel port scanner, Tawain,
9600P.


 Which program, driver,.. I need to use it. It's this scanner
suported by SANE?


Thank you for all.



  Angel

Re: Installing Debian Potato with ReiserFS on a laptop (take 1)

[Matt Zimmerman]

Do these really need to go to -devel?  -user only seems more appropriate.

-- 
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diskless debian

[Knud Sørensen]

Hi 


I am about to start installing 
some diskless workstations. 

I have found this documentation
Diskless-root-NFS-HOWTO
Diskless-HOWTO 
NFS-Root mini-HOWTO
NFS-Root-Client-mini-HOWTO

But they seams to be based on rethat linux.

Is the any advises or documentation specific for debian ?

Load crash from speakers at startup

[David Purton]

Hi, 

just recently my speakers have started making a load crash sound at
startup around when the sound card is initialised.

It's an awe64 pnp isa card setup using sndconfig and isapnp.

I can't think of anything that could have caused this - I recompiled my
kernel to include masqerading support, but apart from that not much has
changed - and this shouldn't have affected sound - as the same comfig file
was used.

I have no idea even where to start looking for whats going wrong.

if I unload the modules and then reload after the system has booted there
is not load crash.

there doesn't seem to be anything satrange in any logs.

any ideas?



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on the road to the ski hills, so they can rush down them
as fast as possible, so they can hurry up again in order
to rush down again.  In a way this is funny,...

Francis A Schaeffer

David Purton

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Re: Stupid question

[garyjones]

At Mon, 18 Dec 2000 22:12:10 + , Matthew Sackman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

>It generally doesn't matter: so long as you are able to dial up then the other
>processes take care of themselves.
[...]
>the details are
>in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/

There are similar files for isdn which I use, and you are of course
correct. I should have been more clear - I don't really want to have
these things done automatically every time a user connects, partly
because I want to do things when I want them to and not when
circumstances dictate a connection occurs, and partly because it isn't
what I would call 'clean' - for me the ip-up & down stuff is for
setting up (& bringing down) what is necessary for the connection to
operate, so the starting of a firewall is appropriate, because nobody 
should go onto the 'net without one IMO, but the collection of news 
(for example) is not. 

I guess my options are to either frig about with user & group 
ownership which is somewhat involved and hardly maintenance hassle 
free, or to have some scripts available to end users which can do the 
work necessary (which scripts would need to somehow obtain the correct
user/permissions to do such work, so I suppose I could have phrased 
the question as "How would the scripts best get that permission?").
Is there a better way?

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Re: Re(2): The better ftp server for Debian...

[Alson van der Meulen]

On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 01:04:54PM -0800, Mike Egglestone wrote:
> Hi...
> I use Proftd and it is 100% free...(99% sure)
>  and it seems to be easy to use and
> works well...
I'm running muddleftpd now, quite stable for me. hasn't as much
features as proftpd, but i don't use proftpd for now on my servers,
since there've been a lot of security issues last time. for simple
usage, bsd-ftpd works ok, but it doesn't have very much features,
just a basic ftpd.
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Re: .scr files

[Hall Stevenson]

> Does anyone know what a .scr file is? Have received several
attachments with
> varios names. latest is midget.scr .. have no idea as I don't know the
> extention. Is this some type of virus?

As a few have already mentioned, an .scr file is *normally* a Windows
screensaver. In your case, there's also a variant of a virus named
"midgets.scr". There's more information here:
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w95.hybris.gen.html

Regards
Hall

Re: making bootable CD iso images ?

[Hall Stevenson]

> what packages would a brand-new debian machine (potato)
> require in order to create ISO images for burning onto CD
> that would make the cd bootable?
>
> it'd be nice to have a bootable CD with maybe a few variable
> settings files pulled off floppy. is this feasible? how?

I may be misunderstanding you, but if you can download an entire ISO
image (assuming you have, or have access to, a fast connection) and can
burn CDs, you may be interested in starting at this page:
http://cdimage.debian.org/

The ISO images *are* bootable.

Regards
Hall Stevenson

Re: Today's woody update -- obsolete/local packages

[Colin Watson]

Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>After today's woody update there are many packages shown in dselect as
>obsolete/local.  The Packages file was much smaller than the previous
>version.  What's up?

It's the transition to the new 'testing' distribution - see the recent
archives of debian-devel-announce. woody is now testing, and sid is
unstable. If you intend to track unstable, you should probably start
referring to it as 'unstable' rather than as 'woody'.

-- 
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Re: not all packages showing up with "dpkg -l"?

[Colin Watson]

Lazar Fleysher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Maciej> Let me explain: of recent, I've noticed that for certain
>> Maciej> (few) packages if I do "dpkg -l foo" and it produces no
>> Maciej> matches/output, a subsequent "apt-get install foo" *WILL*
>> Maciej> find and install the desired package.  So if this package
>> Maciej> exists, why isn't it listed in "dpkg -l foo"???
>
>Maybe it is because the name of the package is foo_16a, not foo 

If you mean the version number, that isn't part of the package name, and
neither 'dpkg -l' nor apt-get thinks of it as such.

-- 
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Re: Today's woody update -- obsolete/local packages

[Michael Meding]

Am Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2000 14:33 schrieb Colin Watson:
> Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >After today's woody update there are many packages shown in dselect as
> >obsolete/local.  The Packages file was much smaller than the previous
> >version.  What's up?
>
> It's the transition to the new 'testing' distribution - see the recent
> archives of debian-devel-announce. woody is now testing, and sid is
> unstable. If you intend to track unstable, you should probably start
> referring to it as 'unstable' rather than as 'woody'.
Hi Colin,

so package updates can't be expected in woody for the next 14 days ? What 
about the Xfree packages and the KDE packages since they change in a very 
frequent interval ?

And, do you know any of these ?

Greetings

Michael

Re: Banner server avoidence

[John Hasler]

I wrote:
> I just put ad servers in /etc/hosts with an IP of 127.0.0.1.

Karsten M. Self writes:
> I believe this is an acceptable solution.  It may incur a timeout.

It doesn't.
-- 
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Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

Re: diskless debian

[Jan Pfeifer]

I've just done it a couple of weeks ago, and it's working great. Read
the stuff, because mostly it works the same for Debian :)

Anyway there are different configurations for a diskless machine, and
each one requires different steps. Just as an overview:

* kernel for DL (diskless machine): may be loaded from a floppy, CDROM
or from a server, if you've got a net card with a ROM that support
this. Maybe it would be possible to have a program to load the kernel
from a server in a floppy, but I didn't find such a program. All these
are described in the docs

* boot configuration parameters for DL (IP address, from where to
mount the root filesystem, etc.): probably load from a server,
using . This is described in the docs

* filesystem: what do you want to share with the server: only /home,
/home, /usr (so the DL will share the same debian installation), ... ?
You must have at least a root directory exclusively for your DL
machine, and probably a /etc also. If you want it to share another
installation, the easiest way is to copy the /etc from the other
installation and edit the appropriate conf. files (fstab, hostname, etc.,
see the docs.) for the DL. You may then share the /usr with the server
machine. 

well, instead of rewritting everything in a poorer english (it is not
my native language), maybe you can add details of what you want or need
to know to manage it and we may be able to help you better :-)

jan



> Hi 
> 
> 
> I am about to start installing 
> some diskless workstations. 
> 
> I have found this documentation
> Diskless-root-NFS-HOWTO
> Diskless-HOWTO 
> NFS-Root mini-HOWTO
> NFS-Root-Client-mini-HOWTO
> 
> But they seams to be based on rethat linux.
> 
> Is the any advises or documentation specific for debian ?
> 
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Re: Today's woody update -- obsolete/local packages

[Defresne Sylvain]

Hello,

* Bob Nielsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> After today's woody update there are many packages shown in dselect as
> obsolete/local.  The Packages file was much smaller than the previous
> version.  What's up?

It's because Debian has finally implemented the ``testing''
distributions. It is a distributions sitting between the stable
(potato) and the new unstable (sid). New package goes into
unstable, and 14 days later, if no bugs were found it goes into
testing (woody). For more details, consult the debian-devel
archive (search for ``testing to be implemented on
ftp-master'').

So you need to change woody to unstable (of sid) in your
sources.list and to do and apt-get update.

Bye
-- 
DEFRESNE Sylvain

Re: Today's woody update -- obsolete/local packages

[Colin Watson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Am Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2000 14:33 schrieb Colin Watson:
>> Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >After today's woody update there are many packages shown in dselect as
>> >obsolete/local.  The Packages file was much smaller than the previous
>> >version.  What's up?
>>
>> It's the transition to the new 'testing' distribution - see the recent
>> archives of debian-devel-announce. woody is now testing, and sid is
>> unstable. If you intend to track unstable, you should probably start
>> referring to it as 'unstable' rather than as 'woody'.
>
>so package updates can't be expected in woody for the next 14 days ?

Not quite. Anthony Towns said that woody's being rolled back to potato,
then having the testing scripts applied to it to bring it up to unstable
minus 14 days or whatever. I don't know exactly how much of that has
been done. From what I understand of testing, though, you should see a
steady trickle of updates to it as packages are determined to be "stable
enough", not a burst every 14 days.

>What about the Xfree packages and the KDE packages since they change in
>a very frequent interval ?

I'm not sure what happens to packages like this. My best guess is that
older versions of the packages are put into testing, which is fairly
easy with package pools, but I'm not somebody who would know for sure.
Read debian-devel, as somebody asked this same question recently.

In any case, as ajt said on debian-devel-announce [1], XFree86 4.0.1
depends on glibc 2.2, and since glibc 2.2 hasn't yet been successfully
built for m68k or arm it can't go into testing yet.

>And, do you know any of these ?

I don't understand what you mean by that sentence, sorry ...

[1] If you're tracking unstable, you REALLY should be reading
debian-devel-announce. It's low-traffic - a few messages a week -
and changes that affect unstable in a big way, like the roll-out of
testing, are announced there. All the questions I've seen recently
on debian-user about the recent changes have already been answered
on debian-devel-announce.

-- 
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Re: diskless debian

[Xucaen]

Hi!
May I ask where you found the HOWTO documents? I
have a friend who want to install a diskless
workstation but we can't seem to find any
information.
thanks!


xucaen

--- Knud Sørensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi 
> 
> 
> I am about to start installing 
> some diskless workstations. 
> 
> I have found this documentation
> Diskless-root-NFS-HOWTO
> Diskless-HOWTO 
> NFS-Root mini-HOWTO
> NFS-Root-Client-mini-HOWTO
> 
> But they seams to be based on rethat linux.
> 
> Is the any advises or documentation specific
> for debian ?
> 
> 
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Re: Today's woody update -- obsolete/local packages

[Colin Watson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson) wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>What about the Xfree packages and the KDE packages since they change in
>>a very frequent interval ?
>
>I'm not sure what happens to packages like this. My best guess is that
>older versions of the packages are put into testing, which is fairly
>easy with package pools, but I'm not somebody who would know for sure.
>Read debian-devel, as somebody asked this same question recently.

I'm wrong. :) Older versions of the packages won't have had the
requisite 14 days of continuous testing in unstable, so they won't go
in. Changes with higher urgency, though, are put into testing after less
than 14 days.

-- 
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Horde/IMP problems

[Mario Olimpio de Menezes]

Hi,

I've done a fresh install of potato (r2) with horde/imp and I'm
experiencing a weird behaviour.
Almost everything seems to be correct: I've a vhost on apache,
which is answering correctly (at least I can get the login screen).
I can log in, and see the message list.
However, whenever link (Compose, Folders, Preferences) I try or
even if I just click over a message to read it, I'm logged off, without
any "explanation".
The logs aren't helpful.
I'm using mysql and its logs are just ok! Also, i'm using imap
connection and I don't know how to increase its verbosity to log more
things, but for now it looks ok.
Please, I really need to re-establish this service.
Any help is very welcome!
Thanks,

[]s,
Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21

apt-get with Packages out of arbitrary directory?

[Manegold]

Hi all!

Is there a way to use apt-get on packages in a directory somewhere on a
system, that are not organized like archive and that do not have
Packages.gz files (how are those created anyhow?).

The reason I ask is, that I have a system that has fast internet access
and apt-get works great in such a situation. I also want to use the
downloaded packages, which I have apt-get leave undeleted, to update my
home system, which has only a 14400 Baud connection for e-mail, by
placing them on a CD. So far I had to install them manually via dpkg -i.
Apt-get was useless in that situation (or I did not know how to make it
usefull).

Any ideas?

TIA
Thorsten Manegold

Woody upgrade = no startx

[bryan]

Hello,
Yesterday I performed an apt-get -f dist-upgrade on my Woody box.
Everything seemed to be going well.  This morning, I closed out my X session
and when I attempted to restart X, I got the following error:

bash: startx: command not found

Sure enough, it is gone.  Has anybody else had this problem, and if so, any
ideas on how I can get X running again?

Thanks,
Bryan Walton

Re: No cut/paste?

[David Z. Maze]

Robert L Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
RLH> I just did a dist-upgrade of my woody box and now I can't cut and
RLH> paste between my xterms or ETerms anymore...

Okay; you should diagnose the problem in a little more detail and
report a bug.  See http://bugs.debian.org/ for details.

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Re: apt-get with Packages out of arbitrary directory?

[David Z. Maze]

Manegold  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
M> Is there a way to use apt-get on packages in a directory somewhere on a
M> system, that are not organized like archive and that do not have
M> Packages.gz files

Nope.

M> (how are those created anyhow?).

Install the dpkg-dev package, and look at the dpkg-scanpackages
program and its documentation.

M> The reason I ask is, that I have a system that has fast internet access
M> and apt-get works great in such a situation. I also want to use the
M> downloaded packages, which I have apt-get leave undeleted, to update my
M> home system, which has only a 14400 Baud connection for e-mail, by
M> placing them on a CD. So far I had to install them manually via dpkg -i.
M> Apt-get was useless in that situation (or I did not know how to make it
M> usefull).

What's wrong with using 'dpkg --install'?  'apt-get's major utility
here is in automagically downloading packages other packages depend
on, but if you don't have any way to download packages you aren't
installing then it's far less useful.

(This objection goes away if you're creating relatively complete CDs
with just about every Debian package.  You might also look at the
apt-move program, which is supposed to deal with this case fairly
well.)

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Re: apt-get with Packages out of arbitrary directory?

[Colin Watson]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Is there a way to use apt-get on packages in a directory somewhere on a
>system, that are not organized like archive and that do not have
>Packages.gz files (how are those created anyhow?).

You need a Packages.gz file. They're not hard to create, though.
dpkg-scanpackages produces Packages files given an archive (it doesn't
necessarily have to be organized the same way as the Debian archive) and
an "override file" stating sections and priorities; you then gzip the
output. dpkg-scansources does a similar thing for source archives.

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Re: Load crash from speakers at startup

[Maciej Kalisiak]

On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 06:55:13AM -0500, David Purton wrote:
> just recently my speakers have started making a load crash sound at
> startup around when the sound card is initialised.
> 
> It's an awe64 pnp isa card setup using sndconfig and isapnp.
> 
> I can't think of anything that could have caused this - I recompiled my
> kernel to include masqerading support, but apart from that not much has
> changed - and this shouldn't have affected sound - as the same comfig file
> was used.
> 
> I have no idea even where to start looking for whats going wrong.
> 
> if I unload the modules and then reload after the system has booted there
> is not load crash.
> 
> there doesn't seem to be anything satrange in any logs.
> 
> any ideas?

I had the very same thing happen to me a while back.  I narrowed it down to be
the SoundBlaster module loading; I guess it does some output test, and bootup
the volume levels are cranked up.  I wasn't able to get rid off it, until I
went to kernel 2.2.17, and the problem just disappeared...

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Re: diskless debian

[sena]

On 19/12/2000 at 06:36 -0800, Xucaen wrote:
> Hi!
> May I ask where you found the HOWTO documents? I
> have a friend who want to install a diskless
> workstation but we can't seem to find any
> information.
> thanks!
> 
You can find them at many more at your local Linux Documentation Project
mirror.

The main site is at:  http://www.linuxdoc.org/
Mirrors list: http://www.linuxdoc.org/mirrors.html
A nifty mirror ;) :   http://ldp.2y.net/

Regards, sena...

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Sylpheed

[Cam Ellison]

I have seen a couple of references to this application (suppposedly a
.deb package) over the last few months, but can't seem to find it at the
US, Canada, and Japan (where it apparently was originally) sites.  Does
anyone know where it has gone?

TIA

Cam

Need some help with Cyrus/Postfix configuration

[Chris Mason]

I've installed posfix and Cyrus useing the debs, and both appear to run
fine. I can connect to the IMAP port and create folders in my user account
from another workstation. I was able to pop mail fine, postfix was deliving
properly to my unix account. Now I have modified /etc/postfix/main.cf to
uncomment the cyrus line. No mailk is getting to the user account in IMAP.
In fact it's not going anywhere. Can any give me a few hints here?

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Re: Load crash from speakers at startup

[Hall Stevenson]

> On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 06:55:13AM -0500, David Purton wrote:
> > just recently my speakers have started making a load
> > crash sound at startup around when the sound card is initialised.

> > I had the very same thing happen to me a while back.  I narrowed
> > it down to be the SoundBlaster module loading; I guess it does
> > some output test, and bootup the volume levels are cranked
> > up.  I wasn't able to get rid off it, until I went to kernel 2.2.17,
> > and the problem just disappeared...

The same thing *used* to happen with mine too (an SB AWE64 also) and it
doesn't happen anymore either. I can't remember when it stopped though.

It may very well be related to the module loading and possibly the
"soundbank" that's part of either the "awe" or "midi" portion. It also
doesn't help that rebooting the card apparently re-initializes it and
sets the volume to *almost* maximum. I think RedHat had a tool that
prevented this from happening too.

Regards
Hall Stevenson

Re: Package pool information?

[Anthony Towns]

On Mon, Dec 04, 2000 at 05:12:51PM -0500, Paul D. Smith wrote:
> I'm really interested in the package pools implementation that's going
> on now.
> 
> Which list(s) are the best to subscribe to/and/or read archives of if I
> want to keep up-to-date with this new feature (issues, decisions,
> announcements, etc.)?

debian-devel-announce@lists.debian.org gets all the announcements,
debian-devel@lists.debian.org gets most of the discussion. As you may
well have picked up by now.

There's a FAQ at http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/poolfaq which might
answer some questions. It's intended for a developer audience more than
a user audience, but Debian users are meant to be the cream of the crop,
so maybe that's not a problem.

You can probably already guess a fair bit about how the package pool
works just by poking around in /debian/pool and /debian/dists/sid on
ftp.debian.org (or your favourite mirror), and looking through some
Packages files, to see what they say.

FWIW, HTH, etc.

Cheers,
aj

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Re: Sylpheed

[Christoph Simon]

On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 07:46:01 -0800
Cam Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have seen a couple of references to this application (suppposedly a
> .deb package) over the last few months, but can't seem to find it at the
> US, Canada, and Japan (where it apparently was originally) sites.  Does
> anyone know where it has gone?

It's now installed here :-)

I apt-get it from helix.

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Devices for SCSI Tape Drives

[Victor R. Cain]

Could some one tell me where to find descriptions of what 
the different device designations mean, especially the 
/dev/nst* and /dev/st* devices?

Thanks,
Vic Cain

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Re: LaTeX and PDF-files

[Shao Zhang]

How about just using dvipdf if you don't need all those fancy pdf features?

Shao.

Thomas Halahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Joerg,
> 
> I use 2 ways
> 
> 1) The ps route is good if you have lots of ps figures.
> 
> > pslatex filename.tex
> > dvips filename -o
> > ps2pdf filename.ps
> 
> the pslatex embeds the fonts for you, it is like using 
> \usepackage{times}.  the ps2pdf results are better this way.  you can 
> then also use the psfrag package for example (which works with dvips).
> 
> 
> OR..
> 
> 2) only refer to your images without the extension.
> 
> \includegraphics{filename}
> 
> then convert all your images to pdf using the "eps2pdf" perl script 
> (came with potato).
> 
> > eps2pdf *.ps
> 
> now run pdflatex and your graphics will be included.
> 
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> On 13 11:12 am, Joerg Johannes wrote:
> > To all pdflatex-users
> >
> > I tried to convert my .tex-files to pdf with the pdflatex-command.
> > This works great for text-only documents. It seems that pdflatex
> > cannot include pictures (they are ok., latex --> xdvi shows
> > them...). Do I have to include them in a special format (I tried
> > .bmp, .png, .ps as input; latex --> dvi makes it all, but pdflatex
> > just leaves space...) How can I do this?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > joerg
> 
> 
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Re: Devices for SCSI Tape Drives

[Andy Bastien]

Pending further investigation, we now allege that Victor R. Cain wrote:
> Could some one tell me where to find descriptions of what 
> the different device designations mean, especially the 
> /dev/nst* and /dev/st* devices?
> 

/usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt

The /dev/nst* devices are the non-rewinding versions for the /dev/st*
devices.

Re: Oracle

[Eric Richardson]

> Eric Langager wrote:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> We are currently in the process of setting up the curriculum for
> teaching the Oracle database system here at the University of
> Advancing Computer Technology.  I feel that it would be a good idea to
> teach Oracle administration on some sort of UNIX platform, and I am
> very interested in the possibility of using LINUX as a platform, due
> to its appeal as a PC based system.
> 
> I have talked to Red Hat, and Caldera.  Red Hat did not recommend 7.0
> as a platform.  They do have a special version of Red Hat dedicated to
> Oracle, but it costs $2500--obviously not a solution for my students.

We used Oracle 7 and 8i on RedHat 6.x without a problem. We downloaded
the jdbc driver from Oracle for the correct version and used java for
applications.

> 
> Caldera encouraged me to wait until the next kernal comes out, which
> may be a good idea.
> 
> I was just wondering if there is anyone who has implemented Oracle
> using Debian as a platform.  I am particularly interested in Debian
> because it seems to be less commercialized than some of the others.
> 
> I would appreciate feedback anyone might have about setting up Oracle
> servers on Debian LINUX.  Our networking lab has Intel based systems
> (Pentium) with removable hard drives, and 64 MB of RAM.  I would like
> to teach an implementation which would be easy for students to put
> together on their own with very low cost.
> 
> Any help would be sincerely appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Eric D. Langager
> College of Software Engineering
> University of Advancing Computer Technology
> www.uact.edu

RE: Oracle

[Lewis, James M.]

> Greetings, 
> 
> We are currently in the process of setting up the curriculum for teaching
> the Oracle database system here at the University of Advancing Computer
> Technology.  I feel that it would be a good idea to teach Oracle
> administration on some sort of UNIX platform, and I am very interested in
> the possibility of using LINUX as a platform, due to its appeal as a PC
> based system.
> 
> I have talked to Red Hat, and Caldera.  Red Hat did not recommend 7.0 as a
> platform.  They do have a special version of Red Hat dedicated to Oracle,
> but it costs $2500--obviously not a solution for my students. 
> 
> Caldera encouraged me to wait until the next kernal comes out, which may
> be a good idea.  
> 
> I was just wondering if there is anyone who has implemented Oracle using
> Debian as a platform.  I am particularly interested in Debian because it
> seems to be less commercialized than some of the others.  
> 
> I would appreciate feedback anyone might have about setting up Oracle
> servers on Debian LINUX.  Our networking lab has Intel based systems
> (Pentium) with removable hard drives, and 64 MB of RAM.  I would like to
> teach an implementation which would be easy for students to put together
> on their own with very low cost.  
> 
I installed oracle on debian potato.  It requires a minimum of 128Mb
ram for Oracle 8.1.7.  It also takes up about 900Mb disk for a full
install of all the goodies.  A minimum install would be about 600
or 700Mb.  I don't know if it will run on woody or not.  I started
out using 8.1.6 and it will not work on the new glibc without some
patches.  I had to go back to potato from woody :(
Search the list for the last month or 2 to get detailed
info.  Mail me directly if you need any more info.  Here are some
tricks:
   /bin/sh -> /bin/bash
   /bin/awk -> /usr/bin/awk   (i used gnu awk (i think))
   requires x and an approved window manager (gnome/sawmill works
 as does fvwm (if you are plain vanilla like me))

There is a bashism in the runInstaller program and it looks for awk
in /bin.  There may have been another one that I don't remember.
Just read the error messages and you should be ok.

jim

> Any help would be sincerely appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> Eric D. Langager 
> College of Software Engineering 
> University of Advancing Computer Technology 
> www.uact.edu 
> 
> 
> 

Re: diskless debian

[Scott Patterson]

> May I ask where you found the HOWTO documents? I
> have a friend who want to install a diskless
> workstation but we can't seem to find any
> information.
> thanks!

There is also a project called LTSP, Linux Terminal Server Project, at
http://www.ltsp.org. The developers use Red Hat, but I know people have ported
it to Debian. The project is very active and support is excellent via the
mailing list.

Scott

Re: No cut/paste?

[Robert L. Harris]

There's not much more detail.  I can highlight text in one xterm or
in netscape.  Usually I can click in another xterm, the netscape
location bar, etc and click both left and right buttons to paste
text.  Now when I do the paste click nothing happens.  No paste
or anything.  The cut window doesn't update or clear either.  

I do have full functionality in both mouse buttons and the double
click in gnome.

Robert



Thus spake David Z. Maze ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

> Robert L Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> RLH> I just did a dist-upgrade of my woody box and now I can't cut and
> RLH> paste between my xterms or ETerms anymore...
> 
> Okay; you should diagnose the problem in a little more detail and
> report a bug.  See http://bugs.debian.org/ for details.
> 
> -- 
> David Maze [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.mit.edu/~dmaze/
> "Theoretical politics is interesting.  Politicking should be illegal."
>   -- Abra Mitchell
> 
> 
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dselect produces error ?

[Balbir Thomas]

Hi,
A lot of the of the optional packages that have been marked for installation
don't install when using dselect. Instead it produces the following error :

Media Change: Please insert the disc labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 _Potato_ 
-Official i386 Binary-3 (2814)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter

E: Internal Error, Couldn't configure a pre-depend
Some errors occurred while unpacking. I'm going to configure the
packages that were installed. This may result in duplicate errors
or errors caused by missing dependencies. This is OK, only the errors
above this message are important. Please fix them and run [I]nstall again
Press enter to continue.

Though I am able to install many of these packages individually using apt-get.
I would be grateful if you could tell me how may I find which is the package
causing the dependency problem or if there is any other work around this.

Sincerely
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How to install libqt-dev, kdebase-dev with apt on unstable ?

[Michael Meding]

Hi all,

specifying the package names does not work, neither does apt-get install 
kdebase-dev.

So how to get the packages, despite downloading all and dpkg -i'ing 'em ?

Thanks.

Michael

Re: nvidia geforce2 mx overclocking in linunx?

[Jon Pennington]

Bostjan Muller wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I have found articles all over internet how to overclock nvidia's geforce2 mx
> in windooze... since nvidias card's are around 10% slower in linux I thought I
> would overclock it in linux, but I couldn't since there is no programe to do
> it, at least none that I know of. A friend of mine said he saw something about
> the topic, but could not remember nor the name nor the URL.  So I am wondering
> if any of you knows anything about overclocking nvidia's geforce2 mx under
> linux?
> 
> THX in advance!

Some X server modules are capable of specifying RAMDAC and RAM speed in
the "Device" section of your XF86Config-4 file.  You might want to look
into this a little bit.  I don't know of any modules that /aren't/
capable of doing this, but I've never looked, either.  Dig around a bit
in the XF86Config man page.

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Re: The Debian way (kernel)

[Bill Jonas]

On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 01:48:01PM -0600, David A. Rogers wrote:
> 1) copy /boot/config-x.y.zz (2.2.17 if potato) to .config in the base dir of
> your kernel source.  If you don't you won't start with the default options
> used to build the stock kernel.

...and run "make oldconfig" after you do that.  *Then* run menuconfig or
xconfig.

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OT: ext2resize

[Peter Jay Salzman]

just downloaded ext2resize, and am shocked to see how little documentation
there is.  the HOWTO gives an artificial example using a file containing a
filesystem.  the man page basically says nothing other than:

SYNOPSIS
 ext2resize  


i'd like to use use this program, but it doesn't explain a very fundamental
thing: where does this extra space come from?  i was expecting something
along the lines of:

ext2resize /dev/hdaA /dev/hdaB 

has anyone used this program before?   any pointers to documentation of
substance?   can you explain how this thing works?

thanks!
pete


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depmod question

[Peter Jay Salzman]

i *just* downloaded and compiled 2.4.0-12 for the very first time.   after
my very first reboot with this kernel, i'm getting:

# depmod -a
depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
/lib/modules/2.4.0-test12/kernel/drivers/scsi/imm.o


i'm curious - i compiled this kernel by the book.  what is causing this
message and what is the fix?

thanks!
pete


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Re: Devices for SCSI Tape Drives

[kmself]

on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 11:14:45AM -0500, Andy Bastien ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> Pending further investigation, we now allege that Victor R. Cain wrote:
> > Could some one tell me where to find descriptions of what 
> > the different device designations mean, especially the 
> > /dev/nst* and /dev/st* devices?
> > 
> 
> /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt
> 
> The /dev/nst* devices are the non-rewinding versions for the /dev/st*
> devices.

Might add -- non-rewinding is generally more convenient to work with --
your tape doesn't reset itself after every command.

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Debates about the 'deb' in debian?

[mikpolniak]

On a recent linux radio show  a guest pronounced the 'deb'
with an 'a' sound as in 'day'.  And a bio article in the  Nov/Dec
issue of 'Maximum Linux'  quotes Debra (Ian's wife)  as 
'...remembering debates on how to pronounce the name'.
So are there still debates about  saying 'deb' as in Debra or
as in 'day' or maybe even as in 'debate'?

apt-get source problem with Licq

[Pollywog]

I am having problems getting the latest sources for Licq.
I can download the dsc diff, and tarball for version 1.0 manually
from ftp.debian.org but when I try to get them with 'apt-get source
licq', I get an older version even though my sources.list is set up
for Woody.

If I download the files manually, I am unsure what to do next, but
with the files I get using apt-get, I know how to proceed to build
the binaries.  Any suggestions?

thanks

--
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RE: depmod question

[Jason Holland]

Peter,
  what modultils version are you using??  the 2.4 series requires at least
version 2.3.18 or above.  check your
/usr/src/linux-2.4/Documentation/Changes file for other relevant software
updates you might need to make.  If that is not the problem, imm.o is the
driver for an Iomega parallel port scsi adapter.  Do you have one of those
in your box??  If not, get rid of that in your kernel config and recompile.
Hope this helps!

Jason

>
> i *just* downloaded and compiled 2.4.0-12 for the very first time.   after
> my very first reboot with this kernel, i'm getting:
>
> # depmod -a
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
> /lib/modules/2.4.0-test12/kernel/drivers/scsi/imm.o
>
>
> i'm curious - i compiled this kernel by the book.  what is causing this
> message and what is the fix?
>

Re: Sylpheed

[Cam Ellison]

Christoph Simon wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 19 Dec 2000 07:46:01 -0800

> It's now installed here :-)
> 
> I apt-get it from helix.
> 
Thanks, Christoph.  Based on your suggestion, I went looking, and found
it.  Didn't occur to me to include "unstable" in my search.  <:-/


Cam

Re: Today's woody update -- obsolete/local packages

[Bob Nielsen]

On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 03:18:11PM +0100, Defresne Sylvain wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> * Bob Nielsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > After today's woody update there are many packages shown in dselect as
> > obsolete/local.  The Packages file was much smaller than the previous
> > version.  What's up?
> 
>   It's because Debian has finally implemented the ``testing''
>   distributions. It is a distributions sitting between the stable
>   (potato) and the new unstable (sid). New package goes into
>   unstable, and 14 days later, if no bugs were found it goes into
>   testing (woody). For more details, consult the debian-devel
>   archive (search for ``testing to be implemented on
>   ftp-master'').
> 
>   So you need to change woody to unstable (of sid) in your
>   sources.list and to do and apt-get update.


I understand all this, but would have expected the Packages lists to
remain static for 14 days, rather than existing packages being dropped.

I also noticed that the woody Packages files for contrib and non-free
are completely empty.  I guess the process isn't complete.

The suggested search didn't return any hits.

Bob

incorrect kernel version

[Robert Newton]

I've installed a patch on my 2.2.17 kernel (win4lin). The new kernel
compiles and boots however it now thinks that it is a 2.2.12 kernel
(Identifies itself this way at the start of the boot).
Needless to say, it has a little difficultly loading modules.

The kernel that was compiled before installing the patch still boots
without a problem.

I thought it would be easy to find where the kernel version is set but
so far I have been unsuccessful. If someone happens to know how this
is done could you please let me know.

Note: The file version.h still says 2.2.17

rob

Robert Newton
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: depmod question

[Peter Jay Salzman]

On Tue 19 Dec 00,  1:08 PM, Jason Holland said...
> Peter,
>   what modultils version are you using??  the 2.4 series requires at least
> version 2.3.18 or above.  check your
> /usr/src/linux-2.4/Documentation/Changes file for other relevant software
> updates you might need to make.  If that is not the problem, imm.o is the
> driver for an Iomega parallel port scsi adapter.  Do you have one of those
> in your box??  If not, get rid of that in your kernel config and recompile.

i originally compiled imm support as a module because you never know when a
friend will come over with one of these things...

well, i recompiled the kernel and modules without imm support, and there are
no complaints from depmod.

but this kind of sucks!  it's precisely the reason why i tend to built
monolithic kernels instead of modular kernels.  stuff always seems to go
wrong sooner or later.  not serious stuff, but really annoying messages
which are rather unpleasing to watch scroll by...

pete


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RE: incorrect kernel version

[Jason Holland]

Try looking at the top of your /usr/src/linux/Makefile

VERSION=2
PATCHLEVEL=2
SUBLEVEL=16

or whatever...

Jason

> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 12:27 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: incorrect kernel version
> 
> 
> I've installed a patch on my 2.2.17 kernel (win4lin). The new kernel
> compiles and boots however it now thinks that it is a 2.2.12 kernel
> (Identifies itself this way at the start of the boot).
> Needless to say, it has a little difficultly loading modules.
> 
> The kernel that was compiled before installing the patch still boots
> without a problem.
> 
> I thought it would be easy to find where the kernel version is set but
> so far I have been unsuccessful. If someone happens to know how this
> is done could you please let me know.
> 
> Note: The file version.h still says 2.2.17
> 
> rob
> 
> Robert Newton
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 

question regarding samba usage

[Walter Tautz]

I am trying to get access to a home account on another unix host(solaris)
to my linux machine. It works pretty well using the smbmount command
however i would like to have this occur automagically when I login or
perhaps have the system  automount this without my having to type in an extra 
passwd
upon logging in. The point is it should not be necessary to have to go beyond
merely logging in at which point the samba share should already be there or be 
automounted
upon the logging in action or perhaps when the machine boots.
Perhaps smbmount can be told not to prompt for a passwd.


Is there anyway to make samba look into the unix passwd file other than the 
smbpasswd
file. Usually the practice is to run a cronjob and add new userids to the 
smbpasswd
file. Would be nice to have these be one facility for authentication.


Hopefully I am making sense.  Any thoughts?

-walter

Re: Horde/IMP problems

[mario]

Hi Amal,

Thanks for your answer!
Indeed, I just found the problem: I copied a /etc/passwd
from one computer to another and the mysql uid changed; then 
the data dir weren't writable/readable by mysqld and it could not
get authentication information from mysql (e.g., in Folders.php3).
I was able to track the problem a bit later, after doing
a purge and a reinstall of mysql-server everything worked correctly.
BTW, I had the problem you mention when upgrading horde/imp.
Before I did this new installation, I had to fix 
/etc/imp/defaults.php3 by hand, putting the missing ''
Thanks again!

[]s,

Quoting Amal Phadke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I am not sure if this problem is related to what I encountered when I
> installed Horde/IMP (Potato r2). I noticed that /usr/sbin/update-imp
> wasn't updating /etc/imp/defaults.php3 correctly. Several entries in
> the script were missing single quotes. eg,
> 
> echo "\$default->to_domain = $to_domain;" >>$TMPFILE 2>&1
> 
> should have been 
> 
> echo "\$default->to_domain = '$to_domain';" >>$TMPFILE 2>&1
> 
> Note the single quotes surrounding $to_domain
> 
> After I fixed that everything worked fine.
> 
> Happy Holidays,
> -- 
> 
> Amal Phadke, Ph.D Candidate
> Department of Ocean and Resources Engineering, SOEST
> University of Hawaii at Manoa
> 
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 



Mario O.de Menezes"Many are the plans in a man's heart, but
IPEN-CNEN/SP is the Lord's purpose that prevails"
http://curiango.ipen.br/~mario Prov. 19.21

kde2

[Dale Kosan]

Hello,have been trying to install kde2 but apt keeps telling me I have
an error in line 28.I put the line in that I seen posted here but no
go.Can someone post the line or point me to the site where I can find
out how to continue.Thanks in advance

Re: Previous versions of woody .debs

[Andy Griffiths]

On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 15:18:36 Colin Watson wrote:
> 
> As far as I know, I'm afraid, previous versions haven't been kept until
> very recently. With the advent of package pools, previous versions of
> packages are now kept around for a while in debian/pool on Debian
> mirrors, although I assume that they're eventually deleted to save disk
> space.

Thanks Colin,
In my usual manner I found an explanation of package pools the following 
day. Now all I need to do is persuade the maintainer to put the old 
version in! :)

Andy

RE: depmod question

[Jason Holland]

>
> i originally compiled imm support as a module because you never
> know when a
> friend will come over with one of these things...
>
> well, i recompiled the kernel and modules without imm support,
> and there are
> no complaints from depmod.
>
> but this kind of sucks!  it's precisely the reason why i tend to built
> monolithic kernels instead of modular kernels.  stuff always seems to go
> wrong sooner or later.  not serious stuff, but really annoying messages
> which are rather unpleasing to watch scroll by...
>

I've had the same types of problems.  It seems the ppa and imm kernel
drivers are fairly old.  The documentation is a bit out of date, at least
for anything above 2.2.x.  Have you tried sending a message to the linux
kernel list??  I bet someone on there would know if there is a dependency
needed, but not documented anywhere for the 2.4 series.  Thats what my best
guess is.

Jason

Helping switching on rest sound modules...

[Jonathan Gift]

Hi,
I have a SB16 nicely configure with everything working fine. I just
noticed in earlier posts that peole with a similiar card had other
sysnthesizer options turned on. The modules they are loading which I
haven't compiled are:

mpu_io
op13

What would I turn and and where to get these? I assume theese are the
synthesizer modules?

Thanks

Jonathan



-- 

"Hey, I think I finally got the hang of i-"

Weird audio cd behavior

[David A. Rogers]

I'm running potato with 2.2.17, ALSA with cs4236b chip.

Run xplaycd.
Press start.
First track plays.
After first track plays, it doesn't go on to the second track, it stops
like I'd pressed the stop button (no I didn't).  No matter what track I
start playing, it stops when the track is finished.

Weird huh?

Same thing happens with gtcd.

On cdplay, I get the same error other people have reported:
cdromplatrkind error.

Anyone? Anyone?

dar

RE: depmod question

[Jason Holland]

pete,
  ok, i've been digging up some info on this.  It seems that zip drives on
the parallel port require the lp module to be loaded.

# modprobe lp
# modprobe imm

Possibly you need parallel port printer support compiled in your kernel???
Maybe its puking on that, just a long shot.

Jason

> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Jay Salzman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 1:30 PM
> To: Debian user mailing list
> Subject: Re: depmod question
>
>
> On Tue 19 Dec 00,  1:08 PM, Jason Holland said...
> > Peter,
> >   what modultils version are you using??  the 2.4 series
> requires at least
> > version 2.3.18 or above.  check your
> > /usr/src/linux-2.4/Documentation/Changes file for other
> relevant software
> > updates you might need to make.  If that is not the problem,
> imm.o is the
> > driver for an Iomega parallel port scsi adapter.  Do you have
> one of those
> > in your box??  If not, get rid of that in your kernel config
> and recompile.
>
> i originally compiled imm support as a module because you never
> know when a
> friend will come over with one of these things...
>
> well, i recompiled the kernel and modules without imm support,
> and there are
> no complaints from depmod.
>
> but this kind of sucks!  it's precisely the reason why i tend to built
> monolithic kernels instead of modular kernels.  stuff always seems to go
> wrong sooner or later.  not serious stuff, but really annoying messages
> which are rather unpleasing to watch scroll by...
>
> pete
>

Re: depmod question

[David A. Rogers]

imm.o is actually dependent on another module, but noone told depmod.  Try to
find what imm is dependent on.

dar

On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:

> i *just* downloaded and compiled 2.4.0-12 for the very first time.   after
> my very first reboot with this kernel, i'm getting:
>
> # depmod -a
> depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in 
> /lib/modules/2.4.0-test12/kernel/drivers/scsi/imm.o
>
>
> i'm curious - i compiled this kernel by the book.  what is causing this
> message and what is the fix?
>
> thanks!
> pete
>

RE: Oracle

[Braxton Robbason]

I know this is sacrilege, but I found it fairly easy to install oracle on an
intel box running solaris. you can get the cd-rom set for solaris 8 from sun
for $80 and install it in as many places as you want.  You'll have to check
to ensure that your hardware is supported before trying to install solaris
8, otherwise you'll get stuck, because solaris intel supports a lot less
hardware than linux.  The media kit comes with an evaluation of oracle 8i
for solaris intel as an freebie.

Of course, it's easiest to install oracle under NT.

I wasn't successful getting oracle 8i to install and run on debian 2.1. This
was a couple of months ago, but getting a debian 2.2 disk proved to be very
difficult at the time, and I didn't have cycles to do the incremental
upgrade to potato or to download the ISOs and burn them, I had problems with
rsync, etc, etc. If you can get 2.2 disks easily you could be in a much
better situation.

In any case, you're going to have trouble running oracle with 64 MB of ram
under any OS. it will certainly be slow.

On intel hardware, Debian is tons better than solaris for most things and if
I had been able to get oracle installed I would have stopped using solaris
entirely, but if one only needs Oracle, ease of installation is paramount.

my 3c.

Braxton

dpkg "was interrupted" error - you must run dpkg --configure -a

[DTi4565459]

dpkg "was interrupted".  You must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a'

Well, I tried:  "failed to write status record about gnome-pim to 
var/log/dpkg/status;   no space left on device"

I guess I have run out of space.  Had about 930 megs in ext2 
partition and I am only trying to install from Debian CDROM #1.
I'm a newbie.  What's the best way to free up enough space to
complete the install.  All I need now are Xwindows, Gnome, and
Netscape.  Is there something like CleanSweep for Linux??

TIA for help,

dave

Re: package pools

[Bob Nielsen]

On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 10:06:00AM +0100, John Beining wrote:
> Is the package file dd. 12/18/00
> /dists/woody/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz complete? Where are the
> links with the files in the pools?

I got surprised by that also.  Only those packages which are common to
potato seem to be shown in the package list for testing (which is
linked to woody).  Also, the Packages files for non-free and contrib
are empty.  I assume this is a temporary situation until the transition
to the new system settles down (which will possibly take the 14 days
that a package remains in unstable before moving to testing).  

Bob

-- 
Bob Nielsen, N7XY  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bainbridge Island, WA  http://www.oz.net/~nielsen
 

Postfix delivers more than once

[Andre Berger]

I have a strange problem with Postfix, my messages are sent more
than once. Does this sound familiar to anyone? 

-- 
Andre Berger[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: installing pine

[Dwight Johnson]

On Mon, 18 Dec 2000, David Wright wrote:

> Quoting Dwight Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > On Sun, 17 Dec 2000, ktb wrote:
> > 
> > >   You might want to try mutt.  I like it a lot better.  It
> > >   took some configuring but it isn't as clunky as pine.
> > 
> > I have recently been trying mutt and, quite honestly, I have find mutt a
> > lot clunkier than Pine.
> > 
> > One example: when you call up Pine for the first time in any home
> > directory, Pine creates a default .pinerc and it is extremely easy to
> > customize Pine from the Pine master menu.
> > 
> > In contrast, with mutt, no .muttrc is created automatically on first use
> > and evidently there exists no easy to use configuration program (at least I
> > have been unable to find one) as there is in Pine.
> 
> These are the sorts of issues that concern "beginners" who can be
> helped by having a good /etc/Muttrc file. Power users aren't really
> concerned.
 
These issues concern people who are _not_ beginners. Time is money and
taking a lot of time to configure an application is wasteful, when an equal
result can be achieved in much less time with Pine.

> As my institutional copy of mutt resides in my own disk space (they
> don't support it), I would be disappointed at being quota'd for all
> that redundant help.
 
Some years back, storage cost was an issue. But these days, when you can
buy a 5Gb drive for $130, the expense of storing Pine is only $0.02.
If Pine saved only a single $100 consulting hour in configuration time, the
tradeoff would already be gigantic in Pine's favor. The advantage offered
by mutt's smaller footprint is nill on any platform larger than a PDA or
cellphone.

> > It took me an hour of
> > wading through documentation to figure out how to just get my 'From:'
> > header to display my e-mail address. Apparently, I must do the same for
> > each item of customization I want in mutt.
> > 
> > Another example: control and navigation keys are clearly displayed at the
> > bottom of each Pine screen. For the equivalent functionality in mutt, I
> > must press '?' and wade through a gadzillion keys displayed over multiple
> > screens.
> 
> ... for the power user, there's no desire for real estate to be
> wasted on stuff like that.
 
On the contrary, the power user does want these aids. The power user wants
to make efficient use of his time by being able to quickly access help to
execute commands that perhaps he uses only occasionally, like printing an
e-mail or finding a particular e-mail by searching for a keyword, without
having to search through a nearly endless alphabetical list of commands or
waste brain synapses memorizing something he might do only once a week or
less.

> There are very few different commands you actually need just to
> read day-to-day emails, and the keystrokes needed can be (and are
> by default?) displayed in one line.
 
This is true, but there are many less frequently used commands that will
not be committed to memory -- and Pine makes these much more accessible for
quick use than mutt.

There is, in fact, an option in Pine to not display these lines of command
prompts. However, in 4-1/2 years of using Pine, I have not yet begun to
find these help prompts obtrusive.

> > So I am very surprised to hear you say that you think Pine is clunkier than
> > mutt. I would welcome learning in what ways.
> 
> Configurability, customisability, whatever, of keystrokes and status
> information for each type of screen, navigation, colours, headers,
> editor, etc.

What I seriously doubt that -- getting into the specifics -- mutt is
superior to Pine in configurability and customisability.

Only in one respect, that I can see based on my brief exposure, is mutt
better -- mutt is a better _threaded_ mail reader. It looks like a lot of
effort has been put into mutt's threading features. People who want a
threaded mail reader may well prefer mutt. Since I want to process my
mail _strictly_ in arrival order, threaded is not a feature I would ever
use.  

I am willing to give mutt a try based on its purer free software license.

But I have used Pine to process in excess of 300 mails a day, including a
high volume of personal mail, for long stretches over 4-1/2 years. Pine is
extremely well designed to process and archive a high volume of mail
quickly. My mail archive is currently 14Mb in 489 folders. If Pine were a
lightweight program, I would have noticed it by now and changed to
something else.

Pine's help and configuration systems are vastly superior to mutt -- making
Pine much easier to learn and use on a daily basis -- I submit that these
features are highly significant for 'power users' who value their time. 

The mutt developers have much to learn from Pine (and I'm sure have already
learned much). It is too bad the Pine license is flawed. Fortunately, this
is only slightly and should not inhibit our use of Pine while we continue
to support the development of completely free mailreaders like mutt.

Dwight

Permissions - Newbie Style Question

[Bob]

I have three debian based boxes running (two Corel and one potato.)  On all
three machines, the default install is to allow everyone on the system to view
every directory, including each other's home directories.  This is true when
using telnet or ftp as well.  I really have no need to read my son's
directories nor he mine.

I have two questions (for now):  What is the permissions setting for the home
directories.  I suspect it should be something like rwx--  or rwxrwx--- if
the group is unique to the specific username.  Is this correct?  Is one
preferable to the other?

the hosts.allow file contains the line:

ALL: .foobar.com 

The machines do refuse connections from other domain
names.  (I did some switching of domain names to test this.)  Is it preferable
to identify specific machines in this file, such as hounddog.foobar.com?

The hosts.deny contains the line

ALL: PARANOID line.

Thanks in advance for any assistance

bob

Re: kernel panic

[q]

On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 01:40:35PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> egads, man.  don't reinstall an operating system!
> 
> don't you have any spare kernels laying around?   i always leave myself at
> least 1 other old kernel.
> 
> as for vim, try:
> 
>   echo "set textwidth=76" >> $HOME/.vimrc
> 
> p
> 
> On Mon 18 Dec 00,  2:07 PM, q said...
> > debs,
> > 
> > in one of my dual-boot deskboxes, i have a kernel panic:
> > 
> > unable to load NLS charset cp 437
> > kernel panic:  VFS: unable to mount root fs on 03:03
> > 
> > my potato on custom kernel 2.2.17 was functioning well until yesterday.  
> > 
> > i don't mind a re-install, but i'd really like to know what's going on, as 
> > this happens like every couple of months to one of my machines.
> > 
> > (i know i have a line-wrap problem w/ vi.  when i get some time to learn 
> > how to fix it, i'll be very happy.  until then, my apologies.)
> > 
> > anyway, when i use the rescue disk and mount a partition, i only get the 
> > choices of /dev/hda1 (wincrap) /dev/hda3 and /dev/hda4.  i'm sure i had 
> > /dev/hda2 (linux) and /dev/hda5 (swap).  and when i try to mount 
> > /dev/hda3-hda4, i get, "invalid argument."
> > 
> > i think i'm screwed; but if anyone has suggestions, please cc me.  
> > 
> > ia, t.
> > 
> > bentley taylor.
> > 
> > //   
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
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> > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Just upgraded to Woody?  Don't have permission to run X? linux
> In Xwrapper.config, change allowed_users from root to console. -
> --._.
> To err is human, to forgive is divine.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  /v\
> To moo is bovine, to meow is feline.http://www.dirac.org/p   // \\
> --   ^^ ^^
> GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D   rules

debs,

i was booting with floppy, which will still boot one of my potato lapboxes.  
so, i basically have a hardware prob, right?

ia, t.

bentley taylor

// 

Re: Scanner support??

[Lee Elliott]

Angel Parra wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
>  I have a Tawain scanner, it's a pararel port scanner, Tawain,
> 9600P.
> 
>  Which program, driver,.. I need to use it. It's this scanner
> suported by SANE?
> 
> Thank you for all.
> 
>   Angel
> 
If it's a TWAIN scanner then you can probably get it to work.  You may
need some options compiled for your kernel - can't remember - I use
SCSI.  Start by getting the manufacturer and model, and check against
the hardware compatibility list.  Sorry, can't remember the url but you
can find it from http://www.debian.org

LeeE

Re: Today's woody update -- obsolete/local packages

[Defresne Sylvain]

Hello,
* Bob Nielsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > It's because Debian has finally implemented the ``testing''
> > distributions. It is a distributions sitting between the stable
> > (potato) and the new unstable (sid). New package goes into
> > unstable, and 14 days later, if no bugs were found it goes into
> > testing (woody). For more details, consult the debian-devel
> > archive (search for ``testing to be implemented on
> > ftp-master'').
> 
> I also noticed that the woody Packages files for contrib and non-free
> are completely empty.  I guess the process isn't complete.
>
> The suggested search didn't return any hits.

See the followings article and follow-ups:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce-0012/msg00011.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-0012/msg01640.html

Bye
-- 
DEFRESNE Sylvain

Re: depmod question

[Colin Watson]

Peter Jay Salzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i *just* downloaded and compiled 2.4.0-12 for the very first time.   after
>my very first reboot with this kernel, i'm getting:
>
># depmod -a
>depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in
>/lib/modules/2.4.0-test12/kernel/drivers/scsi/imm.o

2.4.0-test12 is known to be broken in this regard, as far as I know; I
see the same symptoms. I think test13-pre1 fixes it (based on what a
colleague at work said, and some reading through linux-kernel), but
wouldn't swear to it. Try it and see what happens.

-- 
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: apt-get source problem with Licq

[Colin Watson]

Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am having problems getting the latest sources for Licq.
>I can download the dsc diff, and tarball for version 1.0 manually
>from ftp.debian.org but when I try to get them with 'apt-get source
>licq', I get an older version even though my sources.list is set up
>for Woody.

Have you set it up for woody (i.e. now testing) or do you really mean
unstable? Use the latter for preference now.

>If I download the files manually, I am unsure what to do next,

  dpkg-source -x licq_1.0-5.dsc

HTH,

-- 
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debates about the 'deb' in debian?

[Scott Patterson]

>On a recent linux radio show  a guest pronounced the 'deb'
>with an 'a' sound as in 'day'.And a bio article in the  Nov/Dec
>issue of 'Maximum Linux'  quotes Debra (Ian's wife)  as
>'...remembering debates on how to pronounce the name'.
>So are there still debates about  saying 'deb' as in Debra or
>as in 'day' or maybe even as in 'debate'?

Maybe Ian should record a sound file pronouning "Debian", juts like Linus has
one pronouncing "Linux"!

Personally, I go the "Maximum Linux" route.

Scott

Re: 2.4 module madness

[Peter Horton]

On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 08:28:15AM -0500, Jonathan Markevich wrote:
> This has the air of a FAQ, but, here I ask anyway.
> 
> I've compiled 2.4.0-test 12 on my potato system... and it won't load any
> modules.  This APPEARS to be the new structure of the /lib/modules
> directory.. nothing's immediately below /lib/modules/2.4.0-test12, but it's
> in a build link to the kernel source!  Is there another step I have
> overlooked?
> 

You need a newer modutils.

Grab the source from a woody mirror and build it.

Works for me ... :-)

P.

Re: 2.4 module madness

[Hans]

>From what I remember binutils also had to be upgraded. I didn't, but simply
made the same directory tree as the 2.2.x kernels under 2.4.0-test10, moved
the modules to the right sub-directory, ran depmod -a and loaded the
modules. YMMV. --Hans

At 08:28 AM 12/18/00 -0500, Jonathan Markevich wrote:
>This has the air of a FAQ, but, here I ask anyway.
>
>I've compiled 2.4.0-test 12 on my potato system... and it won't load any
>modules.  This APPEARS to be the new structure of the /lib/modules
>directory.. nothing's immediately below /lib/modules/2.4.0-test12, but it's
>in a build link to the kernel source!  Is there another step I have
>overlooked?
>
>Thanks.
>
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Re: apt-get with Packages out of arbitrary directory?

[Peter Horton]

On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 03:50:22PM +0100, Manegold wrote:
> 
> Is there a way to use apt-get on packages in a directory somewhere on a
> system, that are not organized like archive and that do not have
> Packages.gz files (how are those created anyhow?).
> 

Have a look at 'apt-move'.

P.

Re: diskless debian

[Brian May]

> "Knud" == Knud Sørensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Knud> Hi I am about to start installing some diskless
Knud> workstations.

Knud> I have found this documentation Diskless-root-NFS-HOWTO
Knud> Diskless-HOWTO NFS-Root mini-HOWTO
Knud> NFS-Root-Client-mini-HOWTO

Knud> But they seams to be based on rethat linux.

Knud> Is the any advises or documentation specific for debian ?

There is also the diskless package for Debian.  note: you are more
likely to have success with the version in unstable (is it in
testing?), the stable version has a number of bugs.
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Problems with commercial program.

[Stewart James -Stootles-]

I was wondering if anyone could help me with a problem I have having. I am
new to Debian but have been using redhat/mandrake for a few years.

I recently switched to Debian. (great distro by the way)

At work we use iplanet(netscape) messaging server and their directory
server. This means using netscape console for some of the administration
of the products.

The netscape console is available at
http://www.iplanet.com/downloads/patches/0115.html

I have run this before on Mandrake 7.0 to 7.2 with out issue.

The problems is easy - get the download uncompress and run ./setup and it
seg faults, does not even start to run.

IPlanet suggests Kernel 2.2.5 and glibc 2.1.1 I have run it on other
kernels, am unsure of the glibc version I have run it on before as I have
never had a problem like this before.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Stewart



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Re: apt-get with Packages out of arbitrary directory?

[Manegold]

On 19-Dec-2000 David Z. Maze wrote:
> Manegold  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> M> Is there a way to use apt-get on packages in a directory somewhere
> on a
> M> system, that are not organized like archive and that do not have
> M> Packages.gz files
> 
> Nope.
> 
> M> (how are those created anyhow?).
> 
> Install the dpkg-dev package, and look at the dpkg-scanpackages
> program and its documentation.

Thanks will do that. Maybe I will find what I'm looking for there.

> 
> M> The reason I ask is, that I have a system that has fast internet
> access
> M> and apt-get works great in such a situation. I also want to use the
> M> downloaded packages, which I have apt-get leave undeleted, to update
> my
> M> home system, which has only a 14400 Baud connection for e-mail, by
> M> placing them on a CD. So far I had to install them manually via dpkg
> -i.
> M> Apt-get was useless in that situation (or I did not know how to make
> it
> M> usefull).
> 
> What's wrong with using 'dpkg --install'?  'apt-get's major utility
> here is in automagically downloading packages other packages depend
> on, but if you don't have any way to download packages you aren't
> installing then it's far less useful.

Well apt-get allows upgrading with dpkg -i I have to do it by hand and in
the correct order, which is a pain if you want to upgrade 100s of
packages or only install kde2 instead of the version potato comes with.
I'd like a way to do apt-get upgrade at home too, but without Internet
access and using the Packages that I download on the other computer.

> 
> (This objection goes away if you're creating relatively complete CDs
> with just about every Debian package.  You might also look at the

No need to go that far to make dpkg -i a pain compared to the ease of
apt-get upgrade on the connected computer (I know I'm spoiled by that
kind of easy upgrade ;-) ).

> apt-move program, which is supposed to deal with this case fairly
> well.)

Yep. Apt-move I used, but It only works with packages that are in the
current release. Therefore if I have other packages sources (like
kde.tdyc.com for kde2 on potato), apt-get will happily use them. Apt-
move, however, skips those packages. Unfortunately apt-move
does not allow simply making use of what's in /etc/apt/sources.list, but
uses it's own sources in apt-move.conf. And there is no way to add other
sources there besides the standard archive with it's sections.


Greetings
Thorsten Manegold
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exim configuration problem

[Frodo Baggins]

Hi debianers,
  I have a small problem in configurating exim. I actualy have to ISP,
using the one or the other depending on the time of the day. Each one
of them has a smtp host to relay mail for. Obviously, each one of
these smarthosts is smart enough not to relay mail iussed by a machine
having an IP address belonging to the other one ISP domain.

Looking into the exim configuration it seems to me that one could us a
rule like


smart_route:
  driver = domainlist
  transport = remote_smtp
  route_list = "*  mailer.domaine-one.fr:smarthost.anotherdomain.org  bydns_a"

since in the Domainlist examples section of the exim manual is said
that: 

If a colon-separated list of smart hosts is given, they are tried in
order.

someone of you have a smat idea to solve this smarthost problem? :)

Thanks a lot.

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Re: make-kpkg question.

[Adam Shand]

>   you definitely do not want use the patches for 2.2.18 with any other
> kernel, unless you really know what you are doing (you would have to
> make sure that the files that the patch changes are unchanged between
> 2.2.18 and whatever you will use).

yah, i know that :)

>   I don't know whether you can use non-debian tarball instead of
> debian source, but it's easy enough to check - get the
> kernel-source-2.2.17 and 'standard' kernel tarball for 2.2.17 and
> compare them - if they are different, you don't want to use tarball
> instead of kernel package.

the problem is that there are lots of superficial differences (readme's
etc) and i wasn't sure if it was just a couple text files which were
inserted or if there was some greater significance that i was missing.

thanks,
adam.

3c509 is being annoying

[Sebastiaan]

Hi,

I try to get a 3c509 network card working, which has worked before on my
system. After some research I found out that the card worked correctly
under windoze, but I can not figure out why the card does not work under
Linux. 
I have disabled pnp and the card insmods well. I can also give it an
address with ifconfig and ping to the card, but I am unable to ping
another host (and vice versa). As far as I know I have no firewall running
and no special options in /etc/hosts.deny.

What else can I try, hints?

Thanks in advance,
Sebastiaan

Re: diskless debian

[Sebastiaan]

High,

take a look at www.ltsp.org if you only want to run xwindows (or their
output).


Greetz,
Sebastiaan

> > Hi!
> > May I ask where you found the HOWTO documents? I
> > have a friend who want to install a diskless
> > workstation but we can't seem to find any
> > information.
> > thanks!
> > 
> You can find them at many more at your local Linux Documentation Project
> mirror.
> 
> The main site is at:  http://www.linuxdoc.org/
> Mirrors list: http://www.linuxdoc.org/mirrors.html
> A nifty mirror ;) :   http://ldp.2y.net/
> 
> Regards, sena...
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Re: Permissions - Newbie Style Question

[sc]

On 12/19/00 5:25 PM, Bob ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>I have two questions (for now):  What is the permissions setting for the home
>directories.  I suspect it should be something like rwx--  or 
>rwxrwx--- if
>the group is unique to the specific username.  Is this correct?  

They'll work if you really don't want anybody but the owner poking 
through the directories.

>Is one
>preferable to the other?

A user's home directory should have the user as the user and the group 
anyway so there may not be any difference between rwxrwx--- and 
rwx--.  I like granting user / group rights because it gives me more 
flexibility down the road (say I want to grant a group of people access 
to a certain folder)