some questions

2000-06-21 Thread Joseph de los Santos
hi,

I have a couple of *easy* questions. hoping somebody could help me out.

1.where does kerneld look for modules to load? i.e. I am having problems with 
one module called mpu401, kerneld looks for it during booting then complains 
even if I don't have it. I was wondering how I could control what kerneld 
tries to look for.

2.in windows, the generic s3virge card can support the 16 bit depth color but 
when I try to use it in linux it does'nt let me. why is this so?

3.I am still having trouble adding something to my ld_library_path. How can 
this be done and how can I verify it? via ldd /bin/bash perhaps?

Thank you and any info will be appreciated.



Quick netsat qstn

2000-06-21 Thread Andrew McRobert
hi all

i was wondering what it means when netstat shows a connection at:

[my.computer.dom]:smtp  [foreign address]

... does it simply mean that someone is sending mail to my.computer.dom?

thanks
Andrew

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RE: Quick netsat qstn

2000-06-21 Thread Andrew McRobert
hi

thanks for that. We have a campus policy prohibiting e-mail relaying (after
some spamming incidents) ... that's why i was interested in the connection
actually ... i was curious because the machine isn't really used for MTA
purposes, though it hosts a few mailing lists. What exactly did you mean by
verifying the address?

thanks
Andrew

-Original Message-
From: C. Falconer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 1:19 PM
To: 'Andrew McRobert'
Subject: RE: Quick netsat qstn


Basically yes.  It means there is a connection to the SMTP port of
my.computer.dom from foreign.address.

We *presume* it is sending you mail... but it could be someone sending
email to one of your relayed domains, or VRFYing an email address.  Does
this server deny routing email for non-local accounts?

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Sent:   Wednesday, 21 June 2000 5:10 PM
To: Debian-Users (E-mail)
Subject:Quick netsat qstn

hi all

i was wondering what it means when netstat shows a connection at:

[my.computer.dom]:smtp  [foreign address]

... does it simply mean that someone is sending mail to my.computer.dom?

thanks
Andrew

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Re: Corel package manager

2000-06-21 Thread Michael Meskes
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 08:17:56PM +0100, Phillip Deackes wrote:
> Unless you particularly want the Corel package manager, you would be

I do.

> better off with the Storm version - Storm did not do anything
> proprietory to KDE like Corel. The Storm Package Manager is an excellent

I know. And I already have Stormpkg on that machine. But since I want both
(for presentation on a booth) I need to find a way to get get_it going to.

Michael
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Re: some questions

2000-06-21 Thread Cyrus Patel
Joseph de los Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> hi,
> 
> I have a couple of *easy* questions. hoping somebody could help me out.
> 
> 1.where does kerneld look for modules to load? i.e. I am having problems with 
> one module called mpu401, kerneld looks for it during booting then complains 
> even if I don't have it. I was wondering how I could control what kerneld 
> tries to look for.

modules are usually kept in /lib/modules/[KERNEL_VERSION]/
if kernel is looking for it at boot time and it isn't there then check
/etc/modules to see if it is trying to load it. 

> 2.in windows, the generic s3virge card can support the 16 bit depth color but 
> when I try to use it in linux it does'nt let me. why is this so?

have you edited the /etc/X11/XF86Config file - or run a config app like 
XF86Setup
to tell it to start in 16bit colour by default? I've got an s3virge card
and it can definately do 16bit colour

> 3.I am still having trouble adding something to my ld_library_path. How can 
> this be done and how can I verify it? via ldd /bin/bash perhaps?

add a dir to your ld_library_path with:
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/foo/bar
or add a line to your /etc/ld.so.conf file.

> Thank you and any info will be appreciated.

Hope this helps,
Cyrus

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Re: Re-send contents of a mail file

2000-06-21 Thread Marcus Johansson
Hi!

> You may want to look at formail; something like
> $ formail -s sendmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] < oldmailbox
> 
> I haven't used this myself, but the man page makes it look like
> it would work.

This worked perfectly! Thanks!

/Marcus





Unidentified subject!

2000-06-21 Thread laxmisunil prakash

Dear friend,
   I am using Debian linux.Please can I get some info on how to mount a 
cdrom on my linux machine .please also some info on using PERL.


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quick question on annoying netscape

2000-06-21 Thread john smith
hello. I'd like to know how to get rid of that annonying netscape group 
icons near the bottom right-hand side of communicator. (the 
navigator,inbox,newsgroups,addressbook and composer). well, maybe I can 
leave the navigator icon there...


TIA

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emacs & xemacs

2000-06-21 Thread Goeman Stefan
Hello Everybody,


For historical reasons I still like to use emacs_20.6 and I am just
experimenting with xemacs.
The problem is that for some global settings both programs make use of the
file .emacs.
I find this not so convenient and I would like emacs_20.6 to use the file
.emacs and I would 
like xemacs to use another file like for example .xemacs.

Does anybody have an idea to do this?

By the way, how do I change the background color of my xemacs window (i.e.
the part of the window
where the text appears.).


Greetings,


Stefan Goeman. 



kernel problem

2000-06-21 Thread Petteri Heinonen
I compiled kernel succesfully, but when I try to boot with it,
it says:
Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel.

Have I left something important out of my kernel or what is
going on?

Petteri Heinonen
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Re: kernel problem

2000-06-21 Thread John Pearson
On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 11:04:52AM +0300, Petteri Heinonen wrote
> I compiled kernel succesfully, but when I try to boot with it,
> it says:
> Kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel.
> 
> Have I left something important out of my kernel or what is
> going on?
> 

Probably, you've set the wrong boot partition.
Presumably, it can mount the partition that it *thinks* is root,
otherwise you'ld have a "Panic: Can't mount root fs".

If you're using LILO, you can pass the root partition at the 
boot: prompt; e.g.,
boot: linux root=/dev/hda3


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Re: AWE64 making loud noise on bootup

2000-06-21 Thread Frank Barknecht
Paulo J. da Silva e Silva hat gesagt: // Paulo J. da Silva e Silva wrote:

> Hey, could anyone explain (or point me to an explanation) what is  the main
> diference between ALSA and OSS sound drivers?

ALSA is the linux audio professional's choice.

OK, seriously: ALSA is much more than just a driver for your soundcard. It
is an development architecture (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture) with
these goals:

   1.Create a fully modularized sound driver which supports kerneld and kmod. 
   2.Create the ALSA Kernel API which surpasses the current OSS API. 
   3.Maintain compatibility with most OSS/Lite binaries. 
   4.Create the ALSA Library (C, C++), which simplifies ALSA application 
development. 
   5.Create the ALSA Manager, an interactive configuration program for the 
driver. 

More at http://www.alsa-project.org/
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APM: Poweroff actually does a reboot

2000-06-21 Thread Moore, Paul
Hi,
I have a PC with APM support at home. I've installed Debian (Potato) onto it
and built my own kernel with APM support compiled in (I needed to build my
own to add the APM real mode calls option, as the default kernel crashes on
a poweroff call).

Now, I can successfully shut down, but the "poweroff" command shuts down to
power off mode, and then immediately reboots instead of switching the power
off. Is this a known/common problem (I vaguely recall having a similar
problem on this PC with Win98, before I removed it, and I have also had the
same problem on a laptop running Windows NT).

Is it a BIOS configuration thing, or is it something in the kernel options I
need to change? Or do I need a BIOS upgrade (it's some version of a Phoenix
BIOS, and the suppliers don't do downloadable upgrades :-( and the prople
who supplied the PC are refusing to admit that there's an issue as "we don't
support Linux" :-( :-()

Thanks for any help,
Paul.



AIC 7892 boot problem

2000-06-21 Thread jogi hofmueller
hi!

i just try to get a brandnew machine running. now the kernel hangs at
boottime when it finds the scsi controller. the last message ist:

 Downloading sequencer code ... 396 instructions downloaded

i use a compact bootdisk from the frozen (potato) distribution. i also
tried the no_probe and no_reset kernel options - same result.

now i also have a slakware distribution here and when i boot the machine
with the slak cdrom everything works fine. the difference is that the boot
message says "... 374 instructions downloaded" and then it finds the disks
and just works fine. but i want the machne to run with debian-linux :))

thanx for helping
j.
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apt-get via proxy in Potato

2000-06-21 Thread chriskenrick
Up until recently apt-get has been sucessfully downloading packages from the 
net through a MS Proxy Server at my site.

I then dist-upgraded to Potato, but now it can't get past the proxy.  It says 
'connecting to internet' (which happens to be the proxy name), but doesn't get 
any further.  wget on the same machine works fine through the proxy.

The only config I have done for the proxy is the appropriate exported 
http_proxy environment variable

Anyone have any ideas about this?

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Re: Unidentified subject!

2000-06-21 Thread Ron Rademaker
mounting cdrom :

mount -t iso9660  

Info on perl:

man perl (there's a lot of info there)

Ron Rademaker

On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, laxmisunil prakash wrote:

> Dear friend,
> I am using Debian linux.Please can I get some info on how to mount a 
> cdrom on my linux machine .please also some info on using PERL.
> 
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Xemacs's delete key (was: email program for newbie)

2000-06-21 Thread Johann Spies
On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 12:39:10AM +0200, Stephan Engelke wrote:

> As a matter of fact, I use XEmacs for editing and mailing on 
> console screen, too.

How do you get XEmacs's delete and backspace keys to behave similarly
under X and the console screen?  I have stopped using XEmacs because
when I get the delete key to delete forwards and backspace bakwards
under X, the backspace key worked the other way round  in the console?

Johann


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kernel compile woes

2000-06-21 Thread Robert Waldner

Hi!

I'm trying to compile a fresh kernel 2.0.38 (for ide-scsi-support).

The problem with gcc29 and kernels 2.0.x I know, so I installed gcc272
and changed the top-level-Makefile accordingly. So far, so good.

but a 'make bzImage' bombs out with 

gcc272 -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.38-clean/include -Wall 
-Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m386 
-DCPU=386  -c -o eata_dma.o eata_dma.c
gcc272: Internal compiler error: program cpp got fatal signal 11
make[3]: *** [eata_dma.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.38-clean/drivers/scsi'
make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.38-clean/drivers/scsi'
make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.38-clean/drivers'
make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2

with lots of warnings like

{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:16101: Warning: using `%al' instead of `%eax' due to `b' suffix
{standard input}:16394: Warning: using `%al' instead of `%eax' due to `b' suffix

before.

I've tried with kernel-source-2.0.38_2.0.38-2.deb, *-3.deb and with a clean
source from ftp.kernel.org. gcc is 2.95.2-12, gcc272 is 2.7.2.3-15, the system
is an almost-potato, with only samba and the kernel not up-to-date (eg 
upgrade'd, not dist-upgrade'd).

Any hints?

cheers,
&rw



Re: APM: Poweroff actually does a reboot

2000-06-21 Thread Chanop Silpa-Anan
Once upon a time, I heard Moore, Paul say

> Hi,
> I have a PC with APM support at home. I've installed Debian (Potato) onto it
> and built my own kernel with APM support compiled in (I needed to build my
> own to add the APM real mode calls option, as the default kernel crashes on
> a poweroff call).
> 
> Now, I can successfully shut down, but the "poweroff" command shuts down to
> power off mode, and then immediately reboots instead of switching the power
> off. Is this a known/common problem (I vaguely recall having a similar
> problem on this PC with Win98, before I removed it, and I have also had the
> same problem on a laptop running Windows NT).
> 
I think it's more of hardware/bios problem since I have one Gateway box
among many Gateway box that refuse to powerdown :( And I couldn't find a way
to overcome the problem. ANW, I always leave the box on all the time so it's
not a big problem.

Chanop

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Re: Loading X w/only netscape

2000-06-21 Thread Joe Bouchard
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 07:16:27PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I would like to setup an account on my system..
> 
> but when a user logs in (via KDM) if possible i don't want it to load a
> windowmanager and all i want it to load is netscape, also i want it to log
> back out when netscape exits.. is this possible?  

Hi,

I just tried this and it worked for me . . . you don't need a window
manager, just netscape on X.  I'm using "startx" not kdm, but it
probably works similarly.  You don't get a border, so you can't resize,
but netscape fills 90% of my 1024x768 screen.  With a few extra commands
you can probably make it just right.  Well, it's a thought . . .

= my .xinitrc =
#!/bin/sh
. /etc/X11/Xsession

= my .xsession 
#!/bin/sh
xinit $HOME/.xinitrc -- -auth $HOME.Xauthority &
#commented this out! fvwm2
netscape















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Thank you,
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Star Office 5.2

2000-06-21 Thread Corey Popelier
The Star Office 5.2 installation has options for Java runtime components -
I have JDK1.1 installed (Woody - 2.2.15 kernel), but no go. Anyone else
had experience with this and know a solution?

Cheers,
 Corey Popelier
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set (floppy,cdrom,...) permissions for console user

2000-06-21 Thread Thomas Gebhardt
Hi,

is there a safe way to supply the user who is sitting in front
of the console (logged in with xdm) with special permissions
(i.e., to access the floppy, /dev/audio and cdrom?

Thanks for any hint!

Regards, Thomas Gebhardt



how to export /home to an unfriendly environment

2000-06-21 Thread Thomas Gebhardt
Hi,

when exporting /home writable to public pc rooms by nfs
(nfs means "not for security") one has to rely on the
strength of BIOS passwords to preserve data security. I'd
not like to do that. And even if the BIOS password is
save, one may unplugg the linux box and fake the ip
address (and even the ethernet hardware address) with
a laptop to get access to the data on /home.

As I understand, there is no secure rpc implementation for
linux. So is there a secure way to export /home to an
unfriendly environment?

Kind regards, Thomas




can't mount cd-rom

2000-06-21 Thread Andrew Dixon
Hi all,
I'm trying to install Debian but it can't seem to mount my cd-rom.  It runs off 
of the sound board which is a:

 Creative Labs Sound Blaster AWE32.  

When I boot off of the rescue floppy is does see that there is a cd-rom device 
on hdc.  I think I need to load the drivers for the sound card before I can 
install off of the cd, or at least put them on the rescue disk.  Does anyone 
know how to do this?? (or is this even the right thing to do?)

Thanks,
andy



request for info

2000-06-21 Thread Omar Shuja Siddiqui
hi
im omar shuja a linux fan.
i have a very old IBM 86 processor on which i want to
install linux.

i prefer to install Debian linux.
Could you please tell me if i could do so.
i dont want to install the latest version with GUI but
i want a simple Linux which non graphical , text based
and can run easily on IBM 86 and CGA monitor.
Also please tell me that what will be the version of
that linux that will run on that old computer and from
where can i download it?

please help me.




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Samba printing problem after upgrade slink->potato

2000-06-21 Thread Alexander List
Hi,

I just upgraded our office fileserver to potato, running samba 2.0.7-2,
lprng 3.6.12-6 and an HP LaserJet 4050 TN connected to the LAN. Everything
worked fine until the upgrade from slink to potato.

The following (very) weird thing happens now:

- when I lpr a file from the Linux box directly (eg /etc/passwd), it
  prints correctly (-> LAN OK, Printer OK)
- when I rlpr the same file to our Win2k server (sorry, yes, we have one),
  it prints, too (-> LAN OK, Printer OK)
- when I connect to my printer share \\server\hplj4050tn using
  smbclient and tell it to "print /etc/passwd", it does as it should
  (-> Samba printing also OK)
- I can connect to the network shares of my Samba machine. I can even
  install the printer correctly. (Samba ok?)
- when I try to print from any of the WinXX machines in the office
  (no matter if NT 4 or 2000), it just doesn't print at all. It won't even
  appear in the Windows print spooler.

However, I get the following error message by mail:
---
>From alexlist  Wed Jun 21 14:27:36 2000
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:27:36 +0200
From: Alexander List 
To: alexlist
Subject: Rejected print job

Your print job was automatically rejected as an invalid data type.

Cannot print PJL files on this printer.
---


Did anyone experience similar problems? I have no clue how to solve this
problem so far...

Thanks for any hints

Alexander List




Don't know if it can help...

2000-06-21 Thread Thibaut Cousin
Hello,

  I found something that may help to understand the problem between Debian and
KDE in the archives of KDE's mailing lists. Strangely they don't see the
problem in the same way. I don't have a personal opinion, I'd just like to
bring new material. If this mailing list is not the proper place for posting
that, where do I post it ?
  Here it is :

> As far as I cant tell this isn't a legal issue. If QT is distributed as part
> of a (Linux) distribution then the GPL grants an exception to allow
> redistribution of GPLed code linked with QT. (See the special exception part
> of clause 3 of the GPL). So it can be legal to redistribute GPLed apps linked
> to QT even if the QPL is incompatible with the GPL.

  See you,

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problem mailing on my localnet

2000-06-21 Thread dradov
Hi,
I'm trying to setup a small (for the moment) two machine private
network, but I'm having trouble mailing from a user on one machine to a
user on the other machine. I am using a hub, and the machines are able
to ping to each other.

My Debian linux box is a 486 which I plan on using as a
firewall/masquerading/gateway to my DSL ISP, but to do this I need to
upgrade my glibc and some other programs. These programs reside on my
other linux box which runs MkLinux on a Mac clone. To make a long story
short, the only practical way I can see to transfer the programs is to
either mail or ftp them from the Mac to the 486.

The 486 debian uses mutt and exim, and the Mac Mklinux uses pine and
sendmail. I've gone over all the configuration files I can think of, but
still -- after many many maddening hours of trying -- the localnet mail
system is not working.

Also, and this may be a clue to the above problem, trying to anonymously
ftp the files is a problem because the ftp server on the mac won't
recognize the client's email address (which it asks for) as a valid password.

Any insight into solving this would be very appreciated.

Thank you,
Dan Radovsky
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Pine (Was: [Fwd: dependencies rpoblem])

2000-06-21 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 10:09:19PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> 2.1.  One thing I missed right off the bat is the Pine mailer.  It is not
> available from Debian AFAIK.  

Yes, it is available _from_ Debian, but only as source.  That's because pine
does not install (by default) according to Debian policy, and the copyright
holders on pine do not allow you to distribute altered binaries.  Therefore,
pine is in non-free (and, just to be clear, it's not part of official
Debian).  There's also a set of diffs for altering pine to make it
Debianized.

A

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Re: IDE/DMA problems?

2000-06-21 Thread Mark Herrick
Sorry to follow up my own post, but I never saw a solution to this problem.
Anyone have one?

On 16/06/00 at 15:12 Mark Herrick spake the following magic words:

>I too get this message at boot, but i have 2 IDE drives on the 1st
>controller, and a CD-ROM drive on the 2nd.
>I don't think it's a problem with CD/HD on the same controller - I think
>the kernel doesn't recognise the IDE controller.
>Anyone got any ideas?
>
>On 16/06/00 at 14:41 Jason Quigley spake the following magic words:
>
>>Hi Horacio!
>>
>>I too get this message, but it started occurring when I attached an IDE
>>CDROM to the same channel as the hard disk. I guess it's just stepping
>down
>>or something. I was using a SCSI CDROM before and didn't have this
>problem.
>>
>>My suggestion would be to put the CDROM onto the other channel and see if
>>things are better. I certainly see myself buying an IDE card for this
>>reason.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Jason.
>>
>>
>>At 11:38 +0200 16/6/00, Horacio MG wrote:
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>currently I'm entering the BIOS quite often for enabling/disabling the
>>>IDE/SCSI boot, so that I can boot from an IDE (UDMA) HD or a SCSI HD as
>>>needed.
>>>
>>>All of a sudden, I've started to see some message from the kernel.  Here
>>>is the 'dmesg' relevant part:
>>>
>>>PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device 78, VID=10b9,
>>>DID=5229
>>>PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
>>>PCI_IDE: simplex device:  DMA disabled
>>>ide0: PCI_IDE Bus-Master DMA disabled (BIOS)
>>>PCI_IDE: simplex device:  DMA disabled
>>>ide1: PCI_IDE Bus-Master DMA disabled (BIOS)
>>>hda: ST38630A, ATA DISK drive
>>>hdb: CRD-8400C, ATAPI CDROM drive
>>>hdc: ST34321A, ATA DISK drive
>>>
>>>... strange as right now I've booted from the IDE disk and IDE boot mode
>>>*IS* enabled in my BIOS.  I'm 100% sure I haven't fiddled with any other
>>>BIOS option.
>>>
>>>Any idea as to why this is happening?
>>>
>>>Please, Cc: me as I'm not on this list.
>>>
>>>
>>>TIA,
>>>
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>
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Re: emacs & xemacs

2000-06-21 Thread David Z Maze
Goeman Stefan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
GS> For historical reasons I still like to use emacs_20.6 and I am
GS> just experimenting with xemacs.  The problem is that for some
GS> global settings both programs make use of the file .emacs.  I find
GS> this not so convenient and I would like emacs_20.6 to use the file
GS> .emacs and I would like xemacs to use another file like for
GS> example .xemacs.
GS> 
GS> Does anybody have an idea to do this?

You could move your .emacs to .emacs-settings, and put the following
in .emacs:

(if (string-match "XEmacs" emacs-version)
  (load ".xemacs-settings")
  (load ".emacs-settings"))

Note, however, that XEmacs does occasionally want to write things into 
your .emacs file (*sigh*), so you'll wind up with some things after
this before too long.

(In my world, all of my Emacs customization is under $HOME/elisp, and
my .emacs file begins with
(setq load-path (cons (expand-file-name "~/elisp") load-path))
(load "emacs")
$HOME/elisp/emacs.el then sets load-path, loads some other stuff, and
does some customization.  Among other things, I load a private file
called emacs-versions.el, which begins with
(defvar running-xemacs (string-match "XEmacs\\|Lucid" emacs-version))
(defvar running-x (eq window-system 'x))
I can then test on these variables later in the customization file.)

GS> By the way, how do I change the background color of my xemacs
GS> window (i.e.  the part of the window where the text appears.).

You need to change the background color of the 'default' face.
'M-x set-face-background default white' changes the background to
white, for example.  The default color is gray80.

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Re: Don't know if it can help...

2000-06-21 Thread Colin Watson
Thibaut Cousin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I found something that may help to understand the problem between
>Debian and KDE in the archives of KDE's mailing lists. Strangely they
>don't see the problem in the same way.

Amazing ;)

>If this mailing list is not the proper place for posting that, where do
>I post it ?

It's not. debian-legal would be a much better choice; I've set the
Reply-To: header accordingly.

>  Here it is :
>
>> As far as I cant tell this isn't a legal issue. If QT is distributed
>> as part of a (Linux) distribution then the GPL grants an exception to
>> allow redistribution of GPLed code linked with QT. (See the special
>> exception part of clause 3 of the GPL). So it can be legal to
>> redistribute GPLed apps linked to QT even if the QPL is incompatible
>> with the GPL.

An old argument, and that's a *very* liberal reading of the GPL (and not
the FSF's reading, incidentally, and they wrote the thing). The
distribution of Qt would have to be distributed with a "major component"
of the operating system, and Qt is not anything like a major component
of Debian; that clause is there to allow GNU systems to be legally built
on systems with proprietary C libraries and such, which was the
situation before things like the Linux (and later GNU) C Library were
written.

If it were permitted to read this clause in this way, then I could take
a GPLed program, write a proprietary extension to it for which I kept
the source code to myself, call the proprietary extension a "major
component" of my operating system, and thus defeat the GPL. This is
obviously not the intent of the license.

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Debian2.2: routing by ppp/netscape insert,spell

2000-06-21 Thread Geza GYORGYI

PPP/  With kernel 2.2.14 I am unable to set up the office PC as
router by ppp, version 2.3.11-1.4.  I have proxyarp as an option
for the office PC, which has a "1" in
/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward, the home PC has defaultroute as ppp
option, I give both PC-s the right netmask 255.255.255.128 for our
subnet, and /etc/resolv.conf is in order.  However, when ppp comes
up, it has the wrong netmask (ending by 255) and NOARP on both
PC-s.  Ifconfig outputs for the server-to-be:

ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
  inet addr:157.181.170.36  P-t-P:157.181.170.7
Mask:255.255.255.255
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:552
Metric:1
  RX packets:34 errors:2 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:2
  TX packets:32 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:10

and for the client:

ppp0  Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
  inet addr:157.181.170.7  P-t-P:157.181.170.36
Mask:255.255.255.255
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:552
Metric:1
  RX packets:24 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:25 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:10

Can anyone kindly give an idea about why the netmask keeps to be
incorrect and the office PC unwilling to do the routing?  With
kernel 2.0.34 the ppp worked properly.

Netscape/  (a) Is there a menu item for inserting a text file into
the main text in the composer?  I can sometimes paste a file by
mouse from another X window, but not always.  This is because if
something was "cut" in the netscape editor recently then a "copy"
by the mouse in another X window may or may not supersede it.  (b)
The spellchecker vanished when dselect automagically upgraded
netscape from version 4.72 to 4.73.  Is there a way to recover it?

Would be grateful even for hints,

Geza Gyorgyi

Eotvos University, Budapest, Pf. 32, 1518 HUNGARY, E-mail:
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Re: kernel compile woes

2000-06-21 Thread Thomas Guettler

Kernel compiling is like a memory-tester.
The memory might work in normal circumstances, 
but compiling a kernel fails.
Set your bios to default. This help a friend of mine to
compile his FreeBSD.

On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 12:03:59PM +0200, Robert Waldner wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I'm trying to compile a fresh kernel 2.0.38 (for ide-scsi-support).
> 
> The problem with gcc29 and kernels 2.0.x I know, so I installed gcc272
> and changed the top-level-Makefile accordingly. So far, so good.
> 
> but a 'make bzImage' bombs out with 
> 
> gcc272 -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.0.38-clean/include -Wall 
> -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m386 
> -DCPU=386  -c -o eata_dma.o eata_dma.c
> gcc272: Internal compiler error: program cpp got fatal signal 11
> make[3]: *** [eata_dma.o] Error 1
> make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.38-clean/drivers/scsi'
> make[2]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.38-clean/drivers/scsi'
> make[1]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.0.38-clean/drivers'
> make: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
> 
> with lots of warnings like
> 
> {standard input}: Assembler messages:
> {standard input}:16101: Warning: using `%al' instead of `%eax' due to `b' 
> suffix
> {standard input}:16394: Warning: using `%al' instead of `%eax' due to `b' 
> suffix
> 
> before.
> 
> I've tried with kernel-source-2.0.38_2.0.38-2.deb, *-3.deb and with a clean
> source from ftp.kernel.org. gcc is 2.95.2-12, gcc272 is 2.7.2.3-15, the system
> is an almost-potato, with only samba and the kernel not up-to-date (eg 
> upgrade'd, not dist-upgrade'd).
> 
> Any hints?
> 
> cheers,
> &rw
> 
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Re: set (floppy,cdrom,...) permissions for console user

2000-06-21 Thread Thomas Guettler
On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 12:58:45PM +0200, Thomas Gebhardt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> is there a safe way to supply the user who is sitting in front
> of the console (logged in with xdm) with special permissions
> (i.e., to access the floppy, /dev/audio and cdrom?
> 
> Thanks for any hint!
you can allow every user to use the /cdrom by a fstab like that:
/dev/fd0/floppy autodefaults,user,noauto0   0
/dev/cdrom  /cdrom  iso9660 defaults,ro,user,noauto 0   0

for audio there is audio in /etc/group
(here you must enter every user explicitly)

On redhat the users who are physicaly logged in have
special rights, it think they do it with pam somehow.

> 
> Regards, Thomas Gebhardt
> 
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Re: how to export /home to an unfriendly environment

2000-06-21 Thread Thomas Guettler
I heard that "coda" solves this. Haven't tried it yet.
You can select coda-support while compiling a kernel.
Sorry, got no URL.

On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 01:08:55PM +0200, Thomas Gebhardt wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> when exporting /home writable to public pc rooms by nfs
> (nfs means "not for security") one has to rely on the
> strength of BIOS passwords to preserve data security. I'd
> not like to do that. And even if the BIOS password is
> save, one may unplugg the linux box and fake the ip
> address (and even the ethernet hardware address) with
> a laptop to get access to the data on /home.
> 
> As I understand, there is no secure rpc implementation for
> linux. So is there a secure way to export /home to an
> unfriendly environment?
> 
> Kind regards, Thomas
> 
> 
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Re: can't mount cd-rom

2000-06-21 Thread Thomas Guettler
On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 07:36:28AM -0400, Andrew Dixon wrote:
> Hi all,
> I'm trying to install Debian but it can't seem to mount my cd-rom.  It runs 
> off of the sound board which is a:

Where exactly does the installation fail?
What error messages do you get?
I don't think your rescue-image needs sound-support.
Try to boot from CD by setting your BIOS.

> 
>  Creative Labs Sound Blaster AWE32.  
> 
> When I boot off of the rescue floppy is does see that there is a cd-rom 
> device on hdc.  I think I need to load the drivers for the sound card before 
> I can install off of the cd, or at least put them on the rescue disk.  Does 
> anyone know how to do this?? (or is this even the right thing to do?)
> 
> Thanks,
> andy
> 
> 
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applets and apache

2000-06-21 Thread John F. Davis
System Info:

Debian Potato
Apache 1.3.9

Hello 

I am having trouble with applets and html.  I want to put all my
java applet class files in a directory.  

Here is some html which is supposed to display an applet:




However, I can not get the applet to display if I put the class file
in the /var/www/ClassDir.  I can get the applet to display if I 
put the class file in the /var/www/ directory.

What gives?

John



Re: problem mailing on my localnet

2000-06-21 Thread Thomas Guettler
I scanned www.linuxdoc.org yesterday and saw that there is
a mail-admin-howto. Maybe this helps

On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 09:15:17AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm trying to setup a small (for the moment) two machine private
> network, but I'm having trouble mailing from a user on one machine to a
> user on the other machine. I am using a hub, and the machines are able
> to ping to each other.
> 
> My Debian linux box is a 486 which I plan on using as a
> firewall/masquerading/gateway to my DSL ISP, but to do this I need to
> upgrade my glibc and some other programs. These programs reside on my
> other linux box which runs MkLinux on a Mac clone. To make a long story
> short, the only practical way I can see to transfer the programs is to
> either mail or ftp them from the Mac to the 486.
> 
> The 486 debian uses mutt and exim, and the Mac Mklinux uses pine and
> sendmail. I've gone over all the configuration files I can think of, but
> still -- after many many maddening hours of trying -- the localnet mail
> system is not working.
> 
> Also, and this may be a clue to the above problem, trying to anonymously
> ftp the files is a problem because the ftp server on the mac won't
> recognize the client's email address (which it asks for) as a valid password.
> 
> Any insight into solving this would be very appreciated.
> 
> Thank you,
> Dan Radovsky
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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Re: applets and apache

2000-06-21 Thread Thomas Guettler
try "su www-data" and check if this user can access the java-classes

On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 09:37:16AM -0500, John F. Davis wrote:
> System Info:
> 
> Debian Potato
> Apache 1.3.9
> 
> Hello 
> 
> I am having trouble with applets and html.  I want to put all my
> java applet class files in a directory.  
> 
> Here is some html which is supposed to display an applet:
> 
>CLASSID="java:Foo.class"
>   CODEBASE="ClassDir/"
>   CODETYPE="application/java"
>   WIDTH=400
>   HEIGHT=80>
> 
> 
> However, I can not get the applet to display if I put the class file
> in the /var/www/ClassDir.  I can get the applet to display if I 
> put the class file in the /var/www/ directory.
> 
> What gives?
> 
> John
> 
> 
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Re: applets and apache

2000-06-21 Thread John F. Davis
Hello Thomas,

I can su www-data and then change direcotry to 
/var/www/ClassDir.  Then I can do a cat Foo.class and
see the contents.


Is this what you mean?

John

On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 04:40:59PM +0200, Thomas Guettler wrote:
> try "su www-data" and check if this user can access the java-classes
> 
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 09:37:16AM -0500, John F. Davis wrote:
> > System Info:
> > 
> > Debian Potato
> > Apache 1.3.9
> > 
> > Hello 
> > 
> > I am having trouble with applets and html.  I want to put all my
> > java applet class files in a directory.  
> > 
> > Here is some html which is supposed to display an applet:
> > 
> >  > CLASSID="java:Foo.class"
> > CODEBASE="ClassDir/"
> > CODETYPE="application/java"
> > WIDTH=400
> > HEIGHT=80>
> > 
> > 
> > However, I can not get the applet to display if I put the class file
> > in the /var/www/ClassDir.  I can get the applet to display if I 
> > put the class file in the /var/www/ directory.
> > 
> > What gives?
> > 
> > John
> > 
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Re: Don't know if it can help...

2000-06-21 Thread John Hasler
Thibaut Cousin quotes:
> If QT is distributed as part of a (Linux) distribution then the GPL
> grants an exception to allow redistribution of GPLed code linked with
> QT. (See the special exception part of clause 3 of the GPL).

It isn't sufficient for the library to be part of the distribution.  It
must be part of the operating system.  Emacs is part of Debian, but it
certainly is not part of the operating system.

> See the special exception part of clause 3 of the GPL

Here it is:

  However, as a special exception, the source code distributed need not
  include anything that is normally distributed (in either source or binary
  form) with the major components (compiler, kernel, and so on) of the
  operating system on which the executable runs, unless that component
  itself accompanies the executable.

Clearly, this was aimed at the proprietary system libraries on OS's such as
Solaris.  It wouldn't apply even if Qt was a Debian system library, because
of the bit about the component accompanying the executable.

Debian has two seperate problems with KDE.

a) GPL'd software not originally intended for use with Qt was modified to
   use Qt.  This infringes the original author's copyright and software
   modified in this way may not be distributed without written permission
   from the original author.  Debian will not distribute these parts of KDE
   until this permission is granted.

b) Software written for use with Qt was released under the GPL without an
   added clause granting permission to link it to Qt.  It is Debian's
   official position that such software is licensed under conflicting terms
   and so cannot be distributed.  IMO Debian is wrong about this: the
   author has clearly granted implicit permission by designing the software
   to require Qt.

The appropriate list for this discussion is debian-legal.
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Re: kernel compile woes

2000-06-21 Thread Robert Waldner
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:05:40 +0200, Thomas Guettler writes:
>Kernel compiling is like a memory-tester.
>The memory might work in normal circumstances, 
>but compiling a kernel fails.

I don't really know if the RAM is on fault, since I can't afford to take
the box offline for testing at the moment, I simply compiled the kernel on
another debian-box. Lucky me to have one...

I'll test the RAM when I have spare hardware and will post any results.

Thanks for the help (also to the ones who mailed me privately)!

cheers,
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network performace

2000-06-21 Thread Goeman Stefan
Hello Everybody,


Does anybody have any idea if there exists some tools to do performance
tests on firewalls and gateways or 
maybe even better on the complete network.

Thanks in  advance,


Stefan Goeman.



Re: Pine (Was: [Fwd: dependencies rpoblem])

2000-06-21 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
If you're running potato (or probably woody) you can get an unauthorized
Pine binary from http://members.mint.net/frodo/pine/

noah

On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Andrew Sullivan wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 10:09:19PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > 2.1.  One thing I missed right off the bat is the Pine mailer.  It is not
> > available from Debian AFAIK.  
> 
> Yes, it is available _from_ Debian, but only as source.  That's because pine
> does not install (by default) according to Debian policy, and the copyright
> holders on pine do not allow you to distribute altered binaries.  Therefore,
> pine is in non-free (and, just to be clear, it's not part of official
> Debian).  There's also a set of diffs for altering pine to make it
> Debianized.
> 
> A
> 
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Unidentified subject!

2000-06-21 Thread Gregory Guthrie

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   College of Science and Technology
   Maharishi University of Management
  (Maharishi International University 1971-1995)
http://www.mum.edu/cs_dept




Re: can't mount cd-rom

2000-06-21 Thread Andrew Dixon
-- Original Message --
From: Thomas Guettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Thomas Guettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:25:29 +0200

>On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 07:36:28AM -0400, Andrew Dixon wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I'm trying to install Debian but it can't seem to mount my cd-rom.  It runs 
>> off of the sound board which is a:
>
>Where exactly does the installation fail?
It fails whenever I try to access information from the CD.
(In this example its when I try: Install Operating System Kernel and Modules)
>What error messages do you get?
The CD-ROM was not mounted successfully
>I don't think your rescue-image needs sound-support.
>Try to boot from CD by setting your BIOS.
>
>> 
>>  Creative Labs Sound Blaster AWE32.  
>> 
>> When I boot off of the rescue floppy is does see that there is a cd-rom 
>> device on hdc.  I think I need to load the drivers for the sound card before 
>> I can install off of the cd, or at least put them on the rescue disk.  Does 
>> anyone know how to do this?? (or is this even the right thing to do?)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> andy
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
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WindowMaker Themes

2000-06-21 Thread Timothy C. Phan
Hi,

  How do I install the themes for WindowMaker and how to
  set the default to a certain theme?

  Thanks!

---
tcp



test

2000-06-21 Thread Robert Heine
test
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this message. ;-)



Re: can't mount cd-rom

2000-06-21 Thread Thomas Guettler
On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 11:27:51AM -0400, Andrew Dixon wrote:
> -- Original Message --
> From: Thomas Guettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Thomas Guettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:25:29 +0200
> 
> >On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 07:36:28AM -0400, Andrew Dixon wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >> I'm trying to install Debian but it can't seem to mount my cd-rom.  It 
> >> runs off of the sound board which is a:
> >
> >Where exactly does the installation fail?
> It fails whenever I try to access information from the CD.
> (In this example its when I try: Install Operating System Kernel and Modules)
> >What error messages do you get?
> The CD-ROM was not mounted successfully

hmm, strange. with  you can switch to
a console, there you get more verbose output. try to check there what
could be wrong. ( to scroll)
Search for "mount". Is it a ATAPI-CDRom or something
special? Brings booting from CDRom the same error?


> >I don't think your rescue-image needs sound-support.
> >Try to boot from CD by setting your BIOS.
> >
> >> 
> >>  Creative Labs Sound Blaster AWE32.  
> >> 
> >> When I boot off of the rescue floppy is does see that there is a cd-rom 
> >> device on hdc.  I think I need to load the drivers for the sound card 
> >> before I can install off of the cd, or at least put them on the rescue 
> >> disk.  Does anyone know how to do this?? (or is this even the right thing 
> >> to do?)
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> andy
> >> 
> >> 
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how add NIC module?

2000-06-21 Thread Gregory Guthrie
Somehow in setting up a new system from CDROM, the module for the NIC was 
not added, so there is no eth0 configured.


I have a DLINK DFE530TX which is listed on the supported linux hardware list,.

How do I locate and install the required driver /module. I looked at the 
Debian site, in modules, but couldn't find it, and there is no search there.


Thanks.

Gregory

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Re: can't mount cd-rom

2000-06-21 Thread Andrew Dixon
-- Original Message --
From: Thomas Guettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:40:07 +0200
I mannaged to get the base system installed from floppies but now when I try to 
install the packages from the CDROM I get this message:

hdc : tray open or drive not ready
hdc : tray open or drive not ready
hdc : tray open or drive not ready
hdc : tray open or drive not ready
hdc : tray open
end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00, sector 64
isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev 16:00 iso_blknum 16 block 32
mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom, 
   or too many mounted file systems
hdc : tray open or drive not ready
hdc : tray open or drive not ready
Unable to mount /dev/cdrom on /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt, type iso9660.

This is all Greek to me, but it seems to recognize the CDROM at startup and the 
busy light did flicker when I tried to install the packages.


>On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 11:27:51AM -0400, Andrew Dixon wrote:
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: Thomas Guettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: Thomas Guettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:25:29 +0200
>> 
>> >On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 07:36:28AM -0400, Andrew Dixon wrote:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >> I'm trying to install Debian but it can't seem to mount my cd-rom.  It 
>> >> runs off of the sound board which is a:
>> >
>> >Where exactly does the installation fail?
>> It fails whenever I try to access information from the CD.
>> (In this example its when I try: Install Operating System Kernel and Modules)
>> >What error messages do you get?
>> The CD-ROM was not mounted successfully
>
>hmm, strange. with  you can switch to
>a console, there you get more verbose output. try to check there what
>could be wrong. ( to scroll)
>Search for "mount". Is it a ATAPI-CDRom or something
>special? Brings booting from CDRom the same error?
>
>
>> >I don't think your rescue-image needs sound-support.
>> >Try to boot from CD by setting your BIOS.
>> >
>> >> 
>> >>  Creative Labs Sound Blaster AWE32.  
>> >> 
>> >> When I boot off of the rescue floppy is does see that there is a cd-rom 
>> >> device on hdc.  I think I need to load the drivers for the sound card 
>> >> before I can install off of the cd, or at least put them on the rescue 
>> >> disk.  Does anyone know how to do this?? (or is this even the right thing 
>> >> to do?)
>> >> 
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> andy
>> >> 
>> >> 
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Re: set (floppy,cdrom,...) permissions for console user

2000-06-21 Thread David Wright
Quoting Thomas Gebhardt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> is there a safe way to supply the user who is sitting in front
> of the console (logged in with xdm) with special permissions
> (i.e., to access the floppy, /dev/audio and cdrom?

Whether this is as easy with xdm as it is on a VC, I don't know.
But it's inherently unsafe. Look at /etc/login.defs on slink and,
to complete the exercise left for the reader, see
/etc/security/group.conf on potato.

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RE: MS Access and Linux

2000-06-21 Thread Richard Lyon
Hi,

Just a further point of interest. If you want connectivity between an MS
Access database
and a linux application, you don't need samba. There are some quite nice
WINNT/WIN98
ODBC socket servers available. The client code is very simple and runs on
most operating
systems.

Your linux client issues SQL commands, which are fowarded to the socket
server. A response
is generated and returned in an XML format. I have been using this type of
connectivity with
linux and qnx clients. Approximately 10,000 MS Access database queries can
be handled per hour
(on the network at work).

Get to the freshmeat site and use ODBC as the search keyword. This is a far
simpler approach
and may be what you are looking for.

Regards

> -Original Message-
> From: marco frattola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 19 June 2000 9:25 PM
> To: 'Jed Shepardson'; 'Debian User List'
> Subject: R: MS Access and Linux
>
>
> last week, there was a discussion about samba and access on the samba
> mailing list (www.samba.org for their archives)
> i've been using samba with debian box for 5 years, with very few problems.
> what are you exactly looking for?
>
> Marco Frattola (S3 - Sviluppo Software e Sistemi) -
> Cubecom S.p.A.
> Via de Marini,1 3 piano Torre WTC
> 16149 GENOVA
> tel. 010 6591184
>



Quick Q: XFS Path error

2000-06-21 Thread Jonathan Gift

Hi,

I'm getting a boot error message as follows:
xfs: Path "X11 path/100dpi" incorrect
xfs: Deleting path entry

Where can I delete the font path entry and/or change the entry?

Thanks,

Jonathan



Re: IDE/DMA problems?

2000-06-21 Thread Horacio MG
Please, do Cc: me on the answer.

El mié, 21 de jun de 2000, a las 02:04:47 +0100, Mark Herrick dijo:
> Sorry to follow up my own post, but I never saw a solution to this
> problem.  Anyone have one?

Have you tried what Jason suggests?  Anyway, I will soon be having a
scsi CD device so I won't have to deal with this :)

> On 16/06/00 at 15:12 Mark Herrick spake the following magic words:
> 
> >I too get this message at boot, but i have 2 IDE drives on the 1st
> >controller, and a CD-ROM drive on the 2nd.  I don't think it's a
> >problem with CD/HD on the same controller - I think the kernel
> >doesn't recognise the IDE controller.  Anyone got any ideas?
> >
> >On 16/06/00 at 14:41 Jason Quigley spake the following magic words:
> >
> >>Hi Horacio!
> >>
> >>I too get this message, but it started occurring when I attached an
> >>IDE CDROM to the same channel as the hard disk. I guess it's just
> >>stepping
> >down
> >>or something. I was using a SCSI CDROM before and didn't have this
> >problem.
> >>
> >>My suggestion would be to put the CDROM onto the other channel and
> >>see if things are better. I certainly see myself buying an IDE card
> >>for this reason.
> >>
> >>Cheers, Jason.
> >>
> >>
> >>At 11:38 +0200 16/6/00, Horacio MG wrote:
> >>>Hello,
> >>>
> >>>currently I'm entering the BIOS quite often for enabling/disabling
> >>>the IDE/SCSI boot, so that I can boot from an IDE (UDMA) HD or a
> >>>SCSI HD as needed.
> >>>
> >>>All of a sudden, I've started to see some message from the kernel.
> >>>Here is the 'dmesg' relevant part:
> >>>
> >>>PCI_IDE: unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 00 device 78, VID=10b9,
> >>>DID=5229 PCI_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
> >>>PCI_IDE: simplex device:  DMA disabled ide0: PCI_IDE Bus-Master DMA
> >>>disabled (BIOS) PCI_IDE: simplex device:  DMA disabled ide1:
> >>>PCI_IDE Bus-Master DMA disabled (BIOS) hda: ST38630A, ATA DISK
> >>>drive hdb: CRD-8400C, ATAPI CDROM drive hdc: ST34321A, ATA DISK
> >>>drive
> >>>
> >>>... strange as right now I've booted from the IDE disk and IDE boot
> >>>mode *IS* enabled in my BIOS.  I'm 100% sure I haven't fiddled with
> >>>any other BIOS option.
> >>>
> >>>Any idea as to why this is happening?

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rsync questions

2000-06-21 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
1. I have a script that more less says the following:
rsync -rav ftp..* :: ***/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386
/mnt/drE/mirror/debian/dists/potato/main
This way it works fine, but if I say
rsync -rav ftp..* :: ***/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386  (same
line) /mnt/drE/mirror/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-i386
Then it dupms the binary-i386 within the destination, creating another
top one, that is
**/main/binary-i386/binary-i386
Is that normal, or I am missing something?

2. With the script in the working right form (see above, top), after a
file is downloaded, I get
chown ** : Operation not permited
and keeps going. I suppose that it tries to somehow cahnge the ownership
-root- of the just copied filed, but it gets annoying after a while. How
do i fix this?

Thanks a LOT.



Re: folders and mutt

2000-06-21 Thread kmself
On Sun, Jun 18, 2000 at 11:16:28PM +0200, Sven Burgener wrote:
> Hello list
> 
> I wanted to know how to most easily use folders in mutt. It'd be even
> better if that would include the use of procmail. I am still a mutt 
> beginner. I have used procmail a bit though.

It's also helpful to know that mutt used tab completion for both folders
and addresses (something I stumbled on without realizing a couple of
times).  To move a post to a folder, type "s=", and the start of the
folder name, say "debi", and tab out.  You'll get the unique completion
if it exists, else a list of possible folders from which you can choose.
Saves typing and remembering.

Similar feature works with your alias file on sender, cc, and bcc
recipients.

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Re: Loading X w/only netscape

2000-06-21 Thread kmself
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 12:43:59PM +0930, John Pearson wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 07:16:27PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
> > I would like to setup an account on my system..
> > 
> > but when a user logs in (via KDM) if possible i don't want it to load a
> > windowmanager and all i want it to load is netscape, also i want it to log
> > back out when netscape exits.. is this possible?  
> > 
> > right now i have a user that logs in using afterstep (i can't seem to get
> > .xinitrc to override kdm's settings) and modified the autoexec to load
> > netscape on the special page it should be on but i can't get it to logout
> > afterwards i just put big text in the background that says hit
> > CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to logout. i also chsh'd the user to /dev/null so they
> > can't get a shell(not that security is really an issue right now).
> > 
> > this is basically so someone can enter a generic login and have the
> > machine show this website when im not around to do it for them.
> > 
> 
> This is basically a bit of a security hole, unless you can and
> do nail down Netscape's configuration pretty tight.
> 
> Users who want to escape Netscape can probably (e.g.) fiddle with mime
> types/helper applications to give themselves an xterm or window manager,
> so it's probably not a good idea unless you trust your users.

You may be able to get around these limitations with a restricted bash
shell.  I usually set this up with a ~/bin directory into which I've
linked applications the user should be able to run.  If Netscape is the
sole application, you'll be set.  Though Netscape usually launches
through a series of scripts, you may want to muck with that process a
bit.

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Re: Backup

2000-06-21 Thread kmself
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 09:57:48AM -0600, Dean Allen Provins wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> >   I'm thinking to get a scsi backup tape for the Potato
> >   box.  I'd like to know what is the recommended drive
> >   and what software should be used.
> > 
> >   I also have this dump question.  Would the backup software
> >   append the backup files to the end of the tape or overwrite
> >   it everytime?
> > 
> >   TIA!
> > 
> > ---
> > tcp
> 
> I use an HP DAT drive (35xxx - now called Surestore, I think).  Its
> been use for about 5 years (every night) without a problem.  I've used
> 'tar' and 'dump' and both work just fine.

I'll second the Surestore recommendation.  I've got a 2GB DAT which has
been used a little less frequently , but does a great job.  Note that
if you plan on aquiring more than about 15 tapes, the cost point
between DAT and Travan/QIC breaks down about even.  DAT is solid,
dependable, proven technology, and the media are cheap and reusable.
Just what you're looking for in a backup.  The downside is that
capacity, relative to today's drive sizes, is somewhat limited.  I can
get ~4GB compressed, which works for me, but you'll have to look at
higher capacity tape drives for your 9-40GB disks out now.

> Whether or not the software appends or not, is in part predicated on
> where the tape is when the run gets going.  Device /dev/nst0 doesn't
> rewind, while /dev/st0 does.  If the backup software always rewinds,
> and doesn't search for an EOF marker before writing again (i.e. knows
> to append) you'll be out of luck.
> 
> If you use commercial software, check the specs first.  If you write a
> simple 'tar' script, you can do what you want.

On this.  Unless you have specific requirements to meet (eg:  management
can't keep from fucking with a technical decision), I'd choose the
simplest backup methods possible.  My own local backup script is:

#!/bin/bash

# Create backups of /etc, /home, /usr/local, and...

mt rewind
tar cvf /dev/nst0 /etc
tar cvf /dev/nst0 /home
tar cvf /dev/nst0 /usr/local

# and selected /var directories
tar cvf /dev/nst0 /var/backups
tar cvf /dev/nst0 /var/cache/apt
tar cvf /dev/nst0 /var/lib
tar cvf /dev/nst0 /var/log
tar cvf /dev/nst0 /var/www
mt rewoffl

Tar isn't the sexiest thing out there (honey is ), but damned if it
doesn't work, and if the tools for accessing archives aren't available
on every flavor of Unix, and most lesser operating systems, not to
mention boot, rescue, and minimal installations of Linux.  You *will* be
able to get at your data.

Other general recommendations -- dump, cpio, and apio.  I'd generally
*avoid* using an integrated backup management solution -- far less
portable, and you may *not* be able to get at your data, unless you are
part of a large and well-supported organization.  You get some plusses
-- usually a searchable index or other log of what was archived, but it
costs you in terms of flexibility.

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Re: Backup

2000-06-21 Thread Timothy C. Phan
Hi,

  Thank for the recommendation.

  One addition question,  if I backup using tar with -r (--append)
  and -N (--newer) options to the end of the tape, how would
  I go about extract or restore the files if the files have been 
  modified on the daily basis and I do this append with newer backup
  daily?

  Which mail order place has the best price on this HP DAT drive?
  Thanks

kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 09:57:48AM -0600, Dean Allen Provins wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >   I'm thinking to get a scsi backup tape for the Potato
> > >   box.  I'd like to know what is the recommended drive
> > >   and what software should be used.
> > >
> > >   I also have this dump question.  Would the backup software
> > >   append the backup files to the end of the tape or overwrite
> > >   it everytime?
> > >
> > >   TIA!
> > >
> > > ---
> > > tcp
> >
> > I use an HP DAT drive (35xxx - now called Surestore, I think).  Its
> > been use for about 5 years (every night) without a problem.  I've used
> > 'tar' and 'dump' and both work just fine.
> 
> I'll second the Surestore recommendation.  I've got a 2GB DAT which has
> been used a little less frequently , but does a great job.  Note that
> if you plan on aquiring more than about 15 tapes, the cost point
> between DAT and Travan/QIC breaks down about even.  DAT is solid,
> dependable, proven technology, and the media are cheap and reusable.
> Just what you're looking for in a backup.  The downside is that
> capacity, relative to today's drive sizes, is somewhat limited.  I can
> get ~4GB compressed, which works for me, but you'll have to look at
> higher capacity tape drives for your 9-40GB disks out now.
> 
> > Whether or not the software appends or not, is in part predicated on
> > where the tape is when the run gets going.  Device /dev/nst0 doesn't
> > rewind, while /dev/st0 does.  If the backup software always rewinds,
> > and doesn't search for an EOF marker before writing again (i.e. knows
> > to append) you'll be out of luck.
> >
> > If you use commercial software, check the specs first.  If you write a
> > simple 'tar' script, you can do what you want.
> 
> On this.  Unless you have specific requirements to meet (eg:  management
> can't keep from fucking with a technical decision), I'd choose the
> simplest backup methods possible.  My own local backup script is:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> # Create backups of /etc, /home, /usr/local, and...
> 
> mt rewind
> tar cvf /dev/nst0 /etc
> tar cvf /dev/nst0 /home
> tar cvf /dev/nst0 /usr/local
> 
> # and selected /var directories
> tar cvf /dev/nst0 /var/backups
> tar cvf /dev/nst0 /var/cache/apt
> tar cvf /dev/nst0 /var/lib
> tar cvf /dev/nst0 /var/log
> tar cvf /dev/nst0 /var/www
> mt rewoffl
> 
> Tar isn't the sexiest thing out there (honey is ), but damned if it
> doesn't work, and if the tools for accessing archives aren't available
> on every flavor of Unix, and most lesser operating systems, not to
> mention boot, rescue, and minimal installations of Linux.  You *will* be
> able to get at your data.
> 
> Other general recommendations -- dump, cpio, and apio.  I'd generally
> *avoid* using an integrated backup management solution -- far less
> portable, and you may *not* be able to get at your data, unless you are
> part of a large and well-supported organization.  You get some plusses
> -- usually a searchable index or other log of what was archived, but it
> costs you in terms of flexibility.
> 
> --
> Karsten M. Self  http://www.netcom.com/~kmself
>   Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.   http://www.opensales.org
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PowerPC(MacLombard)XF86Config

2000-06-21 Thread Tom

New install on a Macintosh Lombard and I can't seem to get an XF86Config
file that will work (Xserver=XF68_FBDev).

Cna someone point me to a URL that has install instruction specific debian
on Mac laptops?

And is there a specific debian-user-ppc mail list?


thanks

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Re: folders and mutt

2000-06-21 Thread Sven Burgener
On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 10:13:18AM -0700, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:

> It's also helpful to know that mutt used tab completion for both folders
> and addresses (something I stumbled on without realizing a couple of

Yes, that is neat. As a bash user who makes excessive use of this
feature on the CLI, I found out quickly. :)

> times).  To move a post to a folder, type "s=", and the start of the

I didnt know that though. Thanks.
Mutt is a nice mail agent, I like it.

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Powered by Debian GNU/Linux 2.2



Re: apt-get via proxy in Potato

2000-06-21 Thread Jason Gunthorpe

On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I then dist-upgraded to Potato, but now it can't get past the proxy.  It
> says 'connecting to internet' (which happens to be the proxy name), but
> doesn't get any further.  wget on the same machine works fine through
> the proxy. 

If it says [Connecting to internet] then it is waiting for DNS to resolve
'internet'

Depending on how broken your DNS configuration is you may have to wait a
long time, it uses the glibc getnameinfo function which will perform IPv6
lookups first. The way glibc does it is kind of borken so their may be a
long delay if your DNS is not set properly. 

Jason



terminal programming

2000-06-21 Thread Atila Nemet
Are there some good texts (tutorials, faqs, anything?) on web about
how to write terminal independent programs? I need to a make a very
simple little text editor, so I need information on how to make fast
routines that would write to a terminal, and how to interpret the data
received form the keyboard.

Attila




SSH

2000-06-21 Thread Jay Kelly
Hello Group,
I just installed ssh using apt-get install ssh and after it was installed
ssh says your identification has been saved in /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key. Your
public key has been saved in /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key.pub. Now the question, in
the past I have used ssh_genkey command to generate my RSA key. if I do that
now should I delete all the other keys. I want to use Tera Team Pro on a
windows machine to connect via a secure shell. Everytime I try to connect
after copying the key over I still am not able to connect. I use genkey the
copy it over to authorize_keys and take the identity key to my windows
machine. So what are the steps needed to make this work?
Thanks



Re: set (floppy,cdrom,...) permissions for console user

2000-06-21 Thread Bruce Sass
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Thomas Gebhardt wrote:
> is there a safe way to supply the user who is sitting in front
> of the console (logged in with xdm) with special permissions
> (i.e., to access the floppy, /dev/audio and cdrom?
> 
> Thanks for any hint!

If you don't use PAM then check out the CONSOLE_GROUPS option of the
/etc/login.defs file.  If you do use PAM then check out /etc/pam/login
and /etc/security/group.conf.

The PAM way is probably "safer" than the login.defs method, but
"convenient" is a better word in both cases.


- Bruce



Re: Backup

2000-06-21 Thread Gary Hennigan
kmself@ix.netcom.com, answering someone else's question, writes:
[snip]
> I'll second the Surestore recommendation.  I've got a 2GB DAT which has
> been used a little less frequently , but does a great job.  Note that
> if you plan on aquiring more than about 15 tapes, the cost point
> between DAT and Travan/QIC breaks down about even.  DAT is solid,
> dependable, proven technology, and the media are cheap and reusable.
> Just what you're looking for in a backup.  The downside is that
> capacity, relative to today's drive sizes, is somewhat limited.  I can
> get ~4GB compressed, which works for me, but you'll have to look at
> higher capacity tape drives for your 9-40GB disks out now.

I'll third the DAT recommendation. I've got an OLLL 4mm drive and
it's been going strong for at least 6 years, AND I purchased
refurbished! One caveat though, make sure if you go DAT you get a
couple of cleaning tapes. They're pretty sensitive to gunk on the
head.

> > Whether or not the software appends or not, is in part predicated on
> > where the tape is when the run gets going.  Device /dev/nst0 doesn't
> > rewind, while /dev/st0 does.  If the backup software always rewinds,
> > and doesn't search for an EOF marker before writing again (i.e. knows
> > to append) you'll be out of luck.
> > 
> > If you use commercial software, check the specs first.  If you write a
> > simple 'tar' script, you can do what you want.
> 
> On this.  Unless you have specific requirements to meet (eg:  management
> can't keep from fucking with a technical decision), I'd choose the
> simplest backup methods possible.  My own local backup script is:
[snip]
> Tar isn't the sexiest thing out there (honey is ), but damned if it
> doesn't work, and if the tools for accessing archives aren't available
> on every flavor of Unix, and most lesser operating systems, not to
> mention boot, rescue, and minimal installations of Linux.  You
> *will* be

I think this is less true today than it has been in the past. If you
have a CDR or some other high-capacity recordable media it doesn't
take much to just build yourself, for example, a rescue CD. Or with HD
prices so low just having a second disk as a rescue device is probably
not unreasonable.

Personally I have my entire Linux setup copied on a CDR and so I have
anything I could possibly need in order to do a restore right
there. Plus, most of the software included in Debian is GNU and thus
most of it could be compiled on another Unix platform if you had a
need to read the tapes on a system other than the one on which it was
created.

Tar does have some problems. If your tape becomes corrupted somewhere
along the line you've pretty much lost that whole backup. Tar has
little to no capability to recover from tape errors, and if you use
some type of software compression with tar, like gzip or bzip2, you
might as well throw that tape out if it gets an error.

Also, if you have a lot of data I'd recommend something that allows
you to do incremental backups. All my data barely fits on two 2GB DAT
tapes with software compression, but with incrementals that's not an
issue. I can fit 3 or 4 months of incrementals on a single tape no
problem.

> Other general recommendations -- dump, cpio, and apio.  I'd generally
> *avoid* using an integrated backup management solution -- far less
> portable, and you may *not* be able to get at your data, unless you are
> part of a large and well-supported organization.  You get some plusses
> -- usually a searchable index or other log of what was archived, but it
> costs you in terms of flexibility.

I used to use dump in my sysadmin days and really liked it. The
drawback of the Linux version, at least the last time I tried it, is
that it won't back up any non-Linux partitions, e.g., Win98/WinNT. And
I think you meant "afio" rather than "apio"?

Just to give another point of view, I use an integrated backup
solution, afbackup. I do an incremental about once a week and other
than a manual full backup about 4 times a year, and a VERY rare tape
change, I never have to touch my backup software.

Lot's of choices for the original poster and about as many
opinions. Good luck!

Gary Hennigan



Re: SSH

2000-06-21 Thread Ben Collins
On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 11:39:10AM -0700, Jay Kelly wrote:
> Hello Group,
> I just installed ssh using apt-get install ssh and after it was installed
> ssh says your identification has been saved in /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key. Your
> public key has been saved in /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key.pub. Now the question, in
> the past I have used ssh_genkey command to generate my RSA key. if I do that
> now should I delete all the other keys. I want to use Tera Team Pro on a
> windows machine to connect via a secure shell. Everytime I try to connect
> after copying the key over I still am not able to connect. I use genkey the
> copy it over to authorize_keys and take the identity key to my windows
> machine. So what are the steps needed to make this work?
> Thanks

No, those keys it refers to are the host keys. You don't use those for
personal authentication, the sshd server uses them for incoming
connections to verify the server's identity. Create your own keys the same
as you used to.

Ben

-- 
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Re: folders and mutt

2000-06-21 Thread Sven Burgener
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 06:47:09PM -0500, Ashley Clark wrote:

[snip-snip]

> :0:
> * ^X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> * ^X-Loop: debian-\/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> $DEBIAN/$MATCH

In the above regex, does the [EMAIL PROTECTED] part match anything not starting 
with an '@', correct? What follows doesn't matter, right?

Thanks a lot
-- 
S. Burgener
Powered by Debian GNU/Linux 2.2



Booting to offboard controler using LILO

2000-06-21 Thread Scott Bailey
This is my first post to any Debian list, so I hope I have selected the
correct list...

My stuff:

System: Abit BP6 w/ dual Celeron 300s.

HD: WD 8.4 ata66

CDROM:  generic

Kernel: 2.2.x w/ IDE patch
or 2.4.0-test1 

Dist:   Potato

Debian user since 1997.

What I can do:

I can set up a floppy to boot the kernel and mount the offboard HD as
root.  I can set the HD (and have had it this way for some time) to boot
form the regular IDE port.

What I can't do:

I can not get the right combination of Lilo config and BIOS setup to
boot my HD from the onboard HPT366 controller!

I get the following with every thing I try:

LI

Is lilo unable to boot off of the ATA66 controler?
If not, how should I set up LILO to boot from the offboard controller?
What about BIOS and Kernel options?


Thank You,

Scott Bailey



Re: quick question on annoying netscape

2000-06-21 Thread Bolan Meek
john smith wrote:
> 
> hello. I'd like to know how to get rid of that annonying netscape group
> icons near the bottom right-hand side of communicator. (the
> navigator,inbox,newsgroups,addressbook and composer). well, maybe I can
> leave the navigator icon there...
> 
> TIA

YWIA.

If you click on the button with the little dots immediately to the
left of the navigator icon, the whole set shall become a floating
task bar.  If this task bar is closed, the miniature icons return
to the right side of the status bar.  It may require a double-click
for any given build, but ns-4.7.3 on hpux10.20 only requires one.



parted bug.. dumpe2fks?

2000-06-21 Thread Joseph de los Santos
Hi,

Recently I wanted to resize my partition and I was trying to use parted. I 
booted in single user, then unmounted my root partition (since that is what I 
want to resize) then executed parted. When I wanted to check the filesystem to 
resize it, parted told me I had found a bug and should use dumpe2fs on the 
filesystem and send it to bug-report. Now my question is how do I do that? I 
mean use dumpe2fs to a text file then send the text file to bug-report?

Any info would be appreciated.



Re: request for info

2000-06-21 Thread Bolan Meek
Omar Shuja Siddiqui wrote:
> 
> hi
> im omar shuja a linux fan.
> i have a very old IBM 86 processor on which i want to
> install linux.

Please be more specific about processors:  do you mean
an 8088 or 80286?  If so, no.  There is a project going
to port a version of Linux to '286s, but it's not mature,
and Debian certainly doesn't support that port.

If you mean a 80386, then _yes_ Linux supports '386 and
"greater" Intel architecture processors.

> i prefer to install Debian linux.

"I know _exactly_ how you feel" -Morpheus, "The Matrix"

> Could you please tell me if i could do so.
> i dont want to install the latest version with GUI but
> i want a simple Linux which non graphical , text based
> and can run easily on IBM 86 and CGA monitor.

You can have the _latest_version_, without a GUI, just
fine.  Just don't install the X packages.  You can even
install X clients, really, just not an X server.  Not
for CGA, anyway... I vaaguely remember that there exists
one for EGA.

> Also please tell me that what will be the version of
> that linux that will run on that old computer and from
> where can i download it?

I recommend Debian 2.2 (potato), or at least Debian 2.1 (slink).
from www.debian.org.  The kernel version for potato is 2.2.15.
Just off the top of my head, I think that the kernel version
for Debian 2.1 is 2.0.38 (?).  // I should go look but you'll
// find out when you go to
// dl installation diskette
// images, I'm sure.



Re: can't mount cd-rom

2000-06-21 Thread Thomas Guettler
On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 12:08:50PM -0400, Andrew Dixon wrote:
> -- Original Message --
> From: Thomas Guettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:40:07 +0200
> I mannaged to get the base system installed from floppies but now when I try 
> to install the packages from the CDROM I get this message:
> 
> hdc : tray open or drive not ready
> hdc : tray open or drive not ready
> hdc : tray open or drive not ready
> hdc : tray open or drive not ready
> hdc : tray open
> end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00, sector 64
> isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev 16:00 iso_blknum 16 block 32
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom, 
>or too many mounted file systems
> hdc : tray open or drive not ready
> hdc : tray open or drive not ready
> Unable to mount /dev/cdrom on /var/lib/dpkg/methods/mnt, type iso9660.
> 
> This is all Greek to me, but it seems to recognize the CDROM at startup and 
> the busy light did flicker when I tried to install the packages.

That's greek to me, too. I think that's a hardware problem.
Does your cd-drive work on windows?
Or the CD you have is broken.

-- 
Thomas Guettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://www.interface-business.de




Co-dependency conflict

2000-06-21 Thread Andrew Whitlock
I'm using Debian 2.1 (slink) and I have two packages I'm trying to install,
g++2.95.2-12 and libstdc++2.1-dev that seem to depend on each other.  I have
them unpacked but can't configure them since they claim, correctly, that the
other is not configured.  How can I get them to work?

Andrew W.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "Dude"
http://home.cwru.edu/~agw4/
'67 Kombi / '67 Westy
"It's no problem." ** Georgia
Mechanic, stargazer, wanderer.




Re: Co-dependency conflict

2000-06-21 Thread Gary Hennigan
"Andrew Whitlock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm using Debian 2.1 (slink) and I have two packages I'm trying to install,
> g++2.95.2-12 and libstdc++2.1-dev that seem to depend on each other.  I have
> them unpacked but can't configure them since they claim, correctly, that the
> other is not configured.  How can I get them to work?

Depends on what you're using, apt-get or dpkg, but the solution is to
give them both on the command line, eg.,

dpkg -i g++2.95.2-12.deb libstdc++2.1-dev.deb

or

apt-get install g++2.95.2-12 libstdc++2.1-dev

Gary



Problem with IDE hd after instlalling potato with kernel 2.2.15

2000-06-21 Thread Wojtek Zabolotny
Hi All,

Last time I have installed potato on one of my boxes. The installation
was performed "from the scratch". The previous installation of slink was
previously erased (except of /home partition) and disk was reformated
with all checks switched on.
However now, after the upgrade sometimes I receive the series of errors:

 QUOTING FROM /var/log/syslog
Jun 21 19:42:36 wzab kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
Jun 21 19:42:36 wzab kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
Jun 21 19:42:36 wzab kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev 03:41 (hdb), sector
152202
Jun 21 19:42:36 wzab kernel: Directory sread (sector 0x2528a) failed
Jun 21 19:42:37 wzab kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
Jun 21 19:42:37 wzab kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
Jun 21 19:42:41 wzab kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
Jun 21 19:42:41 wzab kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
Jun 21 19:42:42 wzab kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
Jun 21 19:42:42 wzab kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
Jun 21 19:42:44 wzab kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
Jun 21 19:42:44 wzab kernel: hdb: read_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
Jun 21 19:42:44 wzab kernel: ide0: reset: success
Jun 21 19:42:45 wzab kernel: hdb: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
* END OF QUOTE

and the machine slows down (in fact almost freezes).
After the hard reset, I get the "first hdd controller error" from BIOS.
Only switching the power off solves the problem.

My IDE configuration is as follows: (quoting from "dmesg" output)
*
PIIX: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 38
PIIX: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
PIIX: neither IDE port enabled (BIOS)
PIIX: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
PIIX: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0x8000-0x8007, BIOS settings: hda:pio, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0x8008-0x800f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio
hda: ST33240A, ATA DISK drive
hdb: SAMSUNG SV1824D, ATA DISK drive
hdc: CD-540E, ATAPI CDROM drive
hdd: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI, ATAPI FLOPPY drive
ide2: ports already in use, skipping probe
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: ST33240A, 3077MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=781/128/63
hdb: SAMSUNG SV1824D, 17386MB w/472kB Cache, CHS=35324/16/63, (U)DMA
hdc: ATAPI 40X CD-ROM drive, 128kB Cache
Uniform CDROM driver Revision: 2.56
hdd: 98304kB, 32/64/96 CHS, 4096 kBps, 512 sector size, 2941 rpm
**

My PCI configuration is as follows:

**
PCI devices found:
  Bus  0, device   0, function  0:
Host bridge: Intel 82437 (rev 1).
  Medium devsel.  Master Capable.  Latency=32.
  Bus  0, device   7, function  0:
ISA bridge: Intel 82371FB PIIX ISA (rev 2).
  Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  Master Capable.  No
bursts.
  Bus  0, device   7, function  1:
IDE interface: Intel 82371FB PIIX IDE (rev 2).
  Medium devsel.  Fast back-to-back capable.  Master Capable. 
Latency=32.
  I/O at 0x8000 [0x8001].
  Bus  0, device  18, function  0:
VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. Trio32/Trio64 (rev 83).
  Medium devsel.  IRQ 9.
  Non-prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xf800 [0xf800].
**

The problem occured two times. It seems to me that it happened, when the 
machine stood iddle for some time (but APM was switched off
in the BIOS and kernel didn't support APM), however I can't be sure...
Does anybody faced the similar problem or knows what can be the reason?

OOPS, Last time news:
This is what happened when I pressed ENTER too fast
after changing the CDROM, when using the dselect:

0% [Working]hdc: timeout waiting for DMA
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
0% [Working]hdc: timeout waiting for DMA
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
0% [Working]hdc: timeout waiting for DMA
hdc: irq timeout: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest
hdc: timeout waiting for DMA
hdc: DMA disabled
ATAPI device hdc:
Error: Unit attention -- (Sense key=0x06)

However this time machine recovered successfully and didn't slow down
when printing the error messages (ie. I could work as usual on other
consoles).
It seems, that I have a really serious IDE problem :-(.
-- 
TIA 
Wojciech Zabolotny
http://www.ise.pw.edu.pl/~wzab

When buying any hardware, ask the dealer if it is Open Source friendly!!!
http://www.openhardware.org



Re: postfix help

2000-06-21 Thread Eric Gillespie, Jr.
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 01:31:25PM +0200,
Joachim Trinkwitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What about poor guys who don't have a valid hostname (dynamic
> IP) and,

There's no such animal. I mentioned DynDNS in my post, and i'm
mentioning it again. It's a free service that will give you a
valid domain name which can be updated everytime you're IP is
reassigned. Works great for those of us stuck on dialup links.

> moreover, have another username at the ISP as on their own
> computer?

I'm not really sure how that could be a problem. Just set your
email address properly in the MUA. That's all i had to do for my
wife's account (whose ISP username is different from local
usrname), and everything works fine.

-- 
Eric Gillespie, Jr. <*> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. However, this is not
 necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
 going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as
 they fly overhead."
 --RFC 1925


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Re: PowerPC(MacLombard)XF86Config

2000-06-21 Thread Kent West


Tom wrote:
New install on a Macintosh Lombard and I can't seem
to get an XF86Config
file that will work (Xserver=XF68_FBDev).
Cna someone point me to a URL that has install instruction specific
debian
on Mac laptops?
And is there a specific debian-user-ppc mail list?
thanks
--
tom
| "When we are born we cry that we have
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|  come to this great stage of fools!"
   
| 
W. Shakespeare
 

I've found that Linux developers are great at coding, but suck horribly
at documenting. Part of the pioneering experience, I reckon.
I've got a PowerMac 4400/200 that I've been trying for days to get set
up on Debian. Getting the base install done was relatively painless (only
because I'm pretty familiar with the Debian i386 installation in general
and fairly familiar with Macintosh), but getting X going has been a nightmare.
I've almost got a working setup, but the documentation needed just hasn't
been quite what was needed.
I only say this to let you know that you're not alone in your quest.
I've included my XF86Config for comparison; it kindda sortta works, but
not really.
Near as I can tell from the documentation on fbdev, the "default"
setting in the "Modes" line of the "Screen" section tells the server to
use the settings currently set for the console, but I can change the console
settings (using "fbset '1024x768-90'", etc, from /etc/fb.modes) all day
long and then try to start X, but nothing ever seems to change. So instead
of using "default", I try to specify a mode in the "Monitor" section of
XF86Config, and either it doesn't work or I still get the partial
sortta-but-not-really display. The mode settings I've tried have come from
other XF86Config files that supposedly work with LinuxPPC, and from the
output of "fbset -x", and guessing, and tweaking.
I'm still trying to find more docs to read, so if I can figure
out more precisely how it all works together or if I get a working XF86Config
file in the next day or two, I'll forward it on to you.
 
 
-- 
Kent West
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
# $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/XF86Conf.cpp,v 3.29.2.3 1999/06/02 
07:50:27 hohndel Exp $
#
# Copyright (c) 1994 by The XFree86 Project, Inc.
#
# Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a
# copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"),
# to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation
# the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense,
# and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the
# Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
#
# The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in
# all copies or substantial portions of the Software.
#
# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
# IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
# FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.  IN NO EVENT SHALL
# THE XFREE86 PROJECT BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER LIABILITY,
# WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM, OUT OF
# OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
# SOFTWARE.
#
# Except as contained in this notice, the name of the XFree86 Project shall
# not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote the sale, use or other
# dealings in this Software without prior written authorization from the
# XFree86 Project.
#
# $XConsortium: XF86Conf.cpp /main/22 1996/10/23 11:43:51 kaleb $

# **
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of
# this file. This man page is installed as /usr/X11R6/man/man5/XF86Config.5x
# **


Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/lib/X11/rgb"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath"/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "xie.so"
EndSection

Section "Keyboard"
Protocol"Standard"
AutoRepeat  500 5
XkbDisable
XkbKeymap "macintosh"
EndSection

Section "Pointer"
Protocol"BusMouse"
Device  "/dev/mouse"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Sony Multiscan 100GS"
VendorName  "Sony"
ModelName   "100GS"
HorizSync   30-70 # multisync
VertRefresh 50-120# multisync
Mode "800x600-75"
# D: 31.5 MHz, H: 37.5000 kHz, V: 75.00 Hz
DotClock 56.479
HTimings 800 808 872 992
VTimings 600 608 619 635
Flags "+HSync" "+VSync"
#geometry 640 480 640 480 8
#timings 31747 120 16 16 1 64 3
EndMode
EndSection

Section "Device"
   Identifie

Re: parted bug.. dumpe2fks?

2000-06-21 Thread Lars Weber
Joseph de los Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Recently I wanted to resize my partition and I was trying to use parted. I 
> booted in single user, then unmounted my root partition (since that is what I 
> want to resize) then executed parted. When I wanted to check the filesystem 
> to 
> resize it, parted told me I had found a bug and should use dumpe2fs on the 
> filesystem and send it to bug-report. Now my question is how do I do that? I 
> mean use dumpe2fs to a text file then send the text file to bug-report?

Do I understand your question right in that you don't know how to get
the output of dumpe2fs into a file?  If so, use the following command
as root:

$ dumpe2fs /dev/xxx > dumpe2fs.txt

The `>' redirects the output of any command into the specified file.

If your problem is something different, please explain :)

Regards,
Lars



(no subject)

2000-06-21 Thread Pablo Sabatino




Re: Pine (Was: [Fwd: dependencies rpoblem])

2000-06-21 Thread p . b . burton

Thanks for this.

Phil

>If you're running potato (or probably woody) you can get an
>unauthorized Pine binary from
>http://members.mint.net/frodo/pine/
>
>noah
>
>On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 10:09:19PM +,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > 2.1.  One thing I missed right off the bat is the
> Pine mailer.  It is not
> > available from Debian AFAIK.
>
> Yes, it is available _from_ Debian, but only as
>source.  That's because pine
> does not install (by default) according to Debian
> policy,
>and the copyright
> holders on pine do not allow you to distribute altered
>binaries.  Therefore,
> pine is in non-free (and, just to be clear, it's not
> part of official
> Debian).  There's also a set of diffs for altering pine
> to make it
> Debianized.
>
> A




mounting NT share SOLVED

2000-06-21 Thread zdrysdal
Hi all

i have managed to finally mount my NT share!!!

I realised that i was not including a user name, hence the mount always
failed.

syntax was : #smbmount //server/share /mountpoint -Uusername -Ppassword -c
'mount /mountpoint'

Sorry for wasting your time... funny that nobody suggested the use of a
Username :)))

Zane




RE: Co-dependency conflict

2000-06-21 Thread Richard Lyon
Hi,

Please excuse my extreme ignorance.

I am running SLINK and wanted to upgrade to these very packages.
At the debian web site I find that they are not listed in stable.
I have always assumed that stable is SLINK, frozen is potatoe and so on.

Will packages listed in frozen and unstable run on SLINK? I have always
assumed that this was not recommended and have been waiting patiently 
for potatoe to become stable.

I am only interested in upgrading these two packages. Nothing else
is of interest.

Regards ...

> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Whitlock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, 22 June 2000 7:37 AM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Co-dependency conflict
> 
> 
> I'm using Debian 2.1 (slink) and I have two packages I'm trying 
> to install,
> g++2.95.2-12 and libstdc++2.1-dev that seem to depend on each 
> other.



Re: compose key in console?

2000-06-21 Thread Colin Watson
Paul Seelig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How can one configure the compose key under the console?

Use showkey to find the keycode of the key you want to remap; I use the
Windows "Application" key (the one that emulates a right-click under
Windows), which is keycode 127.

After that, the best way I know of to modify the console keymap is to
look in /usr/share/keymaps for your default keymap; mine's in
/usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwerty/uk.kmap.gz. Edit that (gunzipping first
and re-gzipping at the end if necessary; my editor (vim) does that for
me), and put an appropriate line at the end. For me the extra line is
'keycode 127 = Compose'.

Finally, use /usr/sbin/kbdconfig to install and load the modified
keymap.

Of course, none of this works under X :(, so you'll need to find an XKB
guru who knows how to do that ...

-- 
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]



reiserfs for 2.2.16

2000-06-21 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
Anyone tried out the reiserfs patch for kernel 2.2.16 yet?
I used this patch linux-2.2.16-reiserfs-3.5.22-patch, and the
utils for reiserfs does not compile, any ideas?

sorry for the long unwrapped lines...

thanks in advance.

Shao.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils# make
mkdir -p bin
set -e; for i in mkreiserfs dumpreiserfs fsck resize_reiserfs; do make -C $i ; 
done
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils/mkreiserfs'
cc -Wall -c -O -I/usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils/include 
-I/usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils/../../../include/linux -I- mkreiserfs.c
cc -Wall -c -O -I/usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils/include 
-I/usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils/../../../include/linux -I- ../lib/misc.c
cc -Wall -c -O -I/usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils/include 
-I/usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils/../../../include/linux -I-
/usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils/../version.c cc -Wall -c -O 
-I/usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils/include 
-I/usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils/../../../include/linux -I- ../lib/io.c
cc -L/usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils/bin -o 
/usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils/bin/mkreiserfs mkreiserfs.o  misc.o version.o 
io.o
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils/mkreiserfs'
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils/dumpreiserfs'
cc -Wall -c -O -I/usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils/include 
-I/usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils/../../../include/linux -I-
dumpreiserfs.c
dumpreiserfs.c: In function `pack_partition':
dumpreiserfs.c:278: `uint32_t' undeclared (first use this function)
dumpreiserfs.c:278: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
dumpreiserfs.c:278: for each function it appears in.)
dumpreiserfs.c:278: parse error before `blocknumber32'
dumpreiserfs.c:279: `uint16_t' undeclared (first use this function)
dumpreiserfs.c:291: `reclen16' undeclared (first use this function)
dumpreiserfs.c:359: `data16' undeclared (first use this function)
dumpreiserfs.c:419: `blocknumber32' undeclared (first use this function)
make[1]: *** [dumpreiserfs.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/linux/fs/reiserfs/utils/dumpreiserfs'
make: *** [all] Error 2


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no lpr

2000-06-21 Thread cls--colo spgs
debs,

i finally upgraded my 2.0.36 kernel by compiling 2.2.16
on my potato box.  

in the process, i lost lpr.  

...error message:

lpr:  connect:  connection refused
jobs queued, but cannot startd daemon

did my compiling miss the mark?  (how may print
again?--i re-ran /etc/sbin/magicfilterconfig, but no
success.)

thx.

bentley taylor.

//



SGML beginners question

2000-06-21 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
Recently, I have read a lot about SGML. It gives me the
impression that it is very hard to learn and very very
powerfull.

However, I still don't have a clue that in what circumstances I
should use SGML instead of others. Should I write a thesis
report in SGML or LaTeX? Would it be idea for a general document
that one would normally write in Word?

Thanks for any help in advance.

Shao.

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Re: Co-dependency conflict

2000-06-21 Thread John Hasler
Richard Lyon writes:
> Will packages listed in frozen and unstable run on SLINK?

Yes.  If the package depends on any other packages from frozen or unstable
apt will pull them in (it will warn you first).

> I have always assumed that this was not recommended and have been waiting
> patiently for potatoe to become stable.

Debian supports incremental upgrading.
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Dancing Horse Hill
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Re: reiserfs for 2.2.16

2000-06-21 Thread Matthew Dalton
Shao Zhang wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Anyone tried out the reiserfs patch for kernel 2.2.16 yet?
> I used this patch linux-2.2.16-reiserfs-3.5.22-patch, and the
> utils for reiserfs does not compile, any ideas?
> 
> sorry for the long unwrapped lines...
> 
> thanks in advance.
> 
> Shao.
> 

[cut]

> dumpreiserfs.c
> dumpreiserfs.c: In function `pack_partition':
> dumpreiserfs.c:278: `uint32_t' undeclared (first use this function)
> dumpreiserfs.c:278: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> dumpreiserfs.c:278: for each function it appears in.)
> dumpreiserfs.c:278: parse error before `blocknumber32'
> dumpreiserfs.c:279: `uint16_t' undeclared (first use this function)
> dumpreiserfs.c:291: `reclen16' undeclared (first use this function)
> dumpreiserfs.c:359: `data16' undeclared (first use this function)
> dumpreiserfs.c:419: `blocknumber32' undeclared (first use this function)

missing typedefs... maybe you're missing a header file?

Check what header files dumpreiserfs.c #includes and check that you have
them all.

Matthew



tar --exclude works with Mandrake but not potato

2000-06-21 Thread Matthew Thompson
Hello, all,

Some may remember my post about this a short while back.  My apologies for
the redundancy, and for the posts to 2 different lists if that's
inappropriate.  I still don't have a resolution to my situation and am
curious where to go from here.

My potato server (ftp/www/mail.mattyt.net) is running potato in one big
partition (except for /home/ftp/pub).  The easiest way for me to do
periodic backups is to create one big tarball of the whole installation.
The way I always did this before was to log in as root, cd to /, and
execute a command such as this:

# tar --same-owner -czpvf /home/ftp/pub/backups/main.tgz --exclude=proc/*
--exclude=tmp/* --exclude=home/ftp/pub/* *

This would create a tarball in my ftp space, without including any of the
dynamic/garbage info in /proc or in /tmp.  It also wouldn't include all
the various files in /home/ftp/pub, especially the newly created tarball
image.  It *would*, however, include the empty directories themselves.

My problem is that the --exclude command no longer works the way it used
to.  This is my current version of tar:

doma:/# tar --version
tar (GNU tar) 1.13.17
Copyright 2000 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This program comes with NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
You may redistribute it under the terms of the GNU General Public License;
see the file named COPYING for details.
Written by John Gilmore and Jay Fenlason.

When I used to use --exclude, it would include the /proc, /tmp, etc.
directories, but not their contents.  This meant that if my system crashed
(or whatever), restoring was a fairly trivial process.  Now, however, when
I issue the above mentioned lengthy tar command, it goes ahead and
includes all the files in the directories I have told it to exclude.

The most interesting part of all this, to me at least, is that the same
version of tar under Linux Mandrake 7.1:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# tar --version
tar (GNU tar) 1.13.17
Copyright 2000 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This program comes with NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
You may redistribute it under the terms of the GNU General Public License;
see the file named COPYING for details.
Written by John Gilmore and Jay Fenlason.

...still operates the way I remember it.  I use Mandrake for my desktop
machine as it auto-configures lots of stuff like my VooDoo 2 card and also
has a much more complete KDE installation.  I use Debian as my server
because it is much easier to use dselect to install a lean server with
only the packages I need (no X, etc.), plus I'm sure the default security
is better under Debian.  I *really* don't want to use Mandrake for my
server, especially for the want of one argument for one program.

The short version:  tar --exclude v1.13.17 under Mandrake 7.1 works the
way it always has, tar --exclude v1.13.17 under potato doesn't.

I'm kind of pulling out my hair here, guys (especially since I start a new
Network Admin position next week).  Any help you can give to resolve this
somewhat bizarre issue would be MUCH appreciated.

Thanks :)

Cheers.

Matthew Thompson   http://mattyt.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.oz.net/~mattyt
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Re: SGML beginners question

2000-06-21 Thread John Pearson
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 12:03:44PM +1000, Shao Zhang wrote
> Hi,
>   Recently, I have read a lot about SGML. It gives me the
>   impression that it is very hard to learn and very very
>   powerfull.
> 
>   However, I still don't have a clue that in what circumstances I
>   should use SGML instead of others. Should I write a thesis
>   report in SGML or LaTeX? Would it be idea for a general document
>   that one would normally write in Word?
> 
>   Thanks for any help in advance.
> 

I use SGML for two reasons:
  - For documents where I want to maintain a single source but want
to produce a range of output formats (e.g. .html, .ps, .rtf, .dvi)
  - For the sheer joy of using psgml so I don't have to memorise a 
document grammar.



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Re: SGML beginners question

2000-06-21 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 12:03:44PM +1000, Shao Zhang wrote:
> Hi,
>   Recently, I have read a lot about SGML. It gives me the
>   impression that it is very hard to learn and very very
>   powerfull.

I haven't found it so hard to learn (like DocBook) as getting desirable
printable versions.

>   However, I still don't have a clue that in what circumstances I
>   should use SGML instead of others. Should I write a thesis
>   report in SGML or LaTeX? Would it be idea for a general document
>   that one would normally write in Word?

I'd vote for LaTeX/TeX/pdfTex.  With a bit of hacking, you can make some
really slick and well formatted documents.  And for writing something
like a thesis, using BibTeX makes it easy to handle citations.  It's a
bit of work to learn some of the trickery, but there's lots of help
available...

However, LaTeX/TeX may be a bit of overkill for a simple document like
you might write in Word (I'm having to write/format a several hundred
page report in Word at work -- I wouldn't wish that hell on anyone!).
You could also just write simple things in html an use a2ps to convert
them to postscript (or just print to file from netscrape).  There's also
ted (rtf format) and Abiword (minimal).  Die Hards might use vi with
troff macros! 

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Re: no lpr

2000-06-21 Thread John Pearson
On Wed, Jun 21, 2000 at 08:04:50PM -0700, cls--colo spgs wrote
> debs,
> 
> i finally upgraded my 2.0.36 kernel by compiling 2.2.16
> on my potato box.  
> 
> in the process, i lost lpr.  
> 
> ...error message:
> 
> lpr:  connect:  connection refused
> jobs queued, but cannot startd daemon
> 
> did my compiling miss the mark?  (how may print
> again?--i re-ran /etc/sbin/magicfilterconfig, but no
> success.)
> 

Device naming for parallel ports changed in kernel 2.2.x;
under 2.0.x the first port is lp1, under 2.2.x it is lp0.

Also, the parallel port driver was broken into several chunks;
if you have an Intel-based machine you will need the parport &
parport_pc ("Parallel Port Support" and "PC-style Hardware"
under General Setup) modules, as well as the lp module with maybe
printer_readback selected ("Parallel printer support" and
"Support IEEE1284 status readback" under Character Devices).


HTH,



John P.
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Re: SGML beginners question

2000-06-21 Thread Peter S Galbraith

"Eric G . Miller" wrote:

> really slick and well formatted documents.  And for writing something
> like a thesis, using BibTeX makes it easy to handle citations.

Yes.

Latex + bibtex + Emacs + AUCTeX + bib-cite + RefTeX + font-latex

Good stuff.
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Mutt and Fetchmail dumb questions

2000-06-21 Thread Debiandomain
Hello Group,
I just installed slink and then upgraded to frozen. It went ok I think but
now I want to install fetchmail and mutt. I installed mutt and fetchmail and
configured fetchmail and saved the file into my /home/user directory. When I
try to start mutt I get an error /var/spool/mail/neutec: No such file or
directory (errno=2) I have seen this before but in the past I have been able
to get mutt to create my maiol box. But I cant remember. What will I need to
do to get mutt to create a mail box for me. I checked and I dont have a
folder in /var/spool/mail.

Next question. After installing fetchmail I need to make a fetchmail file.
should this file be hidden and what premission should it have?

Thanks guys



terminfo

2000-06-21 Thread Petr \[Dingo\] Dvorak
Hey there,

is there any way to decompile compiled terminfo files back to their source
state so i can modify/add to them ?

Thanks,

Dingo.


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NIC problem w/ de4x5 for DLINK PCI, missing "lspci"

2000-06-21 Thread Gregory Guthrie
I want to use a DLINK DFE530CT pci ethernet card, and some references say 
it uses the de4x5, or tulip drivers,


but when I try to use them, I get
  "init_module: device or resource busy"

I also get prior to that, when starting to load modules, and evaluation 
module dependencies,

  "lspci not found".

I looked at Debian.org but couldn't find any lspci.

Help please..  :-)

Gregory


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Re: terminfo

2000-06-21 Thread Carl Johnson
"Petr [Dingo] Dvorak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hey there,
> 
> is there any way to decompile compiled terminfo files back to their source
> state so i can modify/add to them ?

A 'man -k terminfo' will show you some useful commands.  I think that
you use infocmp to decompile to source, and then use tic to re-compile
after editing.  You might want to use a local directory as described
in the tic manpage.

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