support, it would be great to also
ship the necessary user space stuff in Debian proper. Then we could
label ourselves as "SELinux support out of the box", which would be
really a good asset. :-)
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since it involves the addition of a new
group and also an udev change, this decision is not confined to the
two of us, so I would like to discuss that before.
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Hi!
Henning Makholm [2004-11-09 23:28 +]:
> Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Hampson)
> > On Tue, Nov 09, 2004 at 06:41:40PM +0100, Martin Pitt wrote:
>
> > > We solved (4) by introducing a new group called 'plugdev'. Every user
> > > who is a memb
Hi Marco!
Marco d'Itri [2004-11-09 19:32 +0100]:
> On Nov 09, Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > We solved (4) by introducing a new group called 'plugdev'. Every user
> > who is a member of this group can access hotpluggable devices (digital
&g
sync. I was just unsure
whether there are opinions that it is better to keep it out.
So if anybody does not want pmount to be in Sarge, please speak up now
:-)
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ier, CD-ROM and floppy nodes will also be in plugdev,
which is not intended).
If it is okay for you that pmount also ships /etc/udev/removable.sh,
then I can do that as well. In this case the udev package does not
need to be modified at all.
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ons. The administrator has to actively put users into plugdev,
pmount will not try to mangle /etc/passwd :-)
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Marco d'Itri [2004-11-10 14:19 +0100]:
> On Nov 10, Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Our /etc/udev/udev.rules has two new rules directly after the cdrom
> > and floppy rules:
> >
> > # put removable IDE/SCSI devices into group 'plu
Hi Marco!
Marco d'Itri [2004-11-12 10:42 +0100]:
> On Nov 10, Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I was not sure whether it is valid that packages put their scripts
> > into /etc/udev/rules.d.
> It is as long as they discuss it with me. :-)
> BTW, I su
Hi!
Marco d'Itri [2004-11-12 11:39 +0100]:
> On Nov 12, Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > BTW, I suggest installing the rules files in /etc/udev/ and then
> > > creating a symlink in the rules.d/ directory.
> > Hmm, the Ubuntu hal package c
announce list and a packager list may also be helpful to notify
>packages of new versions / security problems (private)
- Refrain from including source code from libraries which are
externally available, or at least make it easy to use the external
version of a library instead
> - fixes this (closes: #...)
> - now foo is done (closes: ##...)
> [...]
Please also always include a CAN number if available (which was the
case here). With this changelog it is impossible to track security
fixes.
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sr/ is not
yet available) are reasonable, so I'm not opposed to doing this.
Is there any opposing opinion? Should this be done now / post Sarge /
never?
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etely) implement "sync". Just try it:
copy a big file onto a VFAT stick mounted with "sync" and immediately
remove it. The file will be truncated. Also, if you immediately
execute "sync" after copying something, a big bunch of data will still
be wri
the long run I think it would be easier to apply for vendor-sec
subscription. Joey is already subscribed, but since he does not deal
with unstable updates, it would be good to have Andres on board.
Personally I would apreciate and support Andres' subscription to
vendor-sec.
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(if it has, then this would of course
work). But if it hasn't, you need a pg_hba.conf entry.
I'm open to suggestions about making modifications to pg_hba.conf
unnecessary in the common case. (I still need some time to read this
thread about the common database infrastructure *sigh*
Hi!
sean finney [2005-01-25 18:38 -0500]:
> On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 10:38:37AM +0100, Martin Pitt wrote:
> > There are two common ways to achieve that:
> >
> > - Connect as "www-data". For this you need an appropriate PostgreSQL
> > user ("create
#x27;t use Ubuntu's
implementation, it should be adapted to be conformant to the current
Debian policy. Thus during the transition period the boot process
will still look consistent.
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which wasn't the case here.
Actually it's even a third required mistake: For Ubuntu we can only do
source-only uploads, Debian only accepts binary uploads.
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would be bad in any way? As long as
this remains an offering, I think Debian can benefit from that. And at
no time Ubuntu will be able to force decisions into Debian.
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[2] http://people.debian.org/~mpitt/postgresql-ng.html
[3] http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/postgresql-transition/
[4] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-postgresql-public
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Florian Weimer [2005-06-07 19:24 +0200]:
> * Martin Pitt:
>
> > (2) PostgreSQL 8.0 brought a new SONAME for libpq (libpq4), which
> > removed a few symbols which were only intended for internal use,
> > but were used nevertheless by some
Hi!
Andreas Metzler [2005-06-07 20:03 +0200]:
> Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
> > I will upload the new packages to unstable very soon. This has a
> > reasonably big impact to all packages that depend/build-depend on
> > PostgreSQL since the p
#x27;t create a flood of RC bugs (hopefully).
This seems saner. I don't think it is necessary to flood the BTS if
many people fix their package anyway, so I'll just wait some weeks.
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res without
actually gaining anything. So if you want to have that changed, you
really have to convince me that symlinks in /etc are evil and worse
than a config file option.
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Hi again,
Martin Pitt [2005-06-14 23:53 +0200]:
> The basic idea of the new cluster system was to have the complete
> information about a cluster's files in
> /etc/postgresql//. That includes the location of the
> log files and the data directory, which are configured using th
...]
}
As I said, I only regard the symlink target as configuration value, I
don't actually pretend that the actual log file is in /etc.
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than people using the standard KDE editor, defaulting to the
latter without bothering the admin seems a good choice IMHO.
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. It does make sense on complicated server
packages which should run out of the box, but changing the user
interface of a graphical editor is neither complicated, nor is it
necessary to make the package work.
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"egcs" is history for a long time
now...
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> http://www.phunnypharm.org/~bcollins/sparc/ as an interim solution.
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e will do a mere
dist-upgrade anyway, and b-f are thoroughly tested. But this certainly
is another issue...
Just my $0.02,
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Es gibt zwei Regeln für Erfolg im Leben:
1. Erzähle den Leuten nie alles, was Du weißt.
sers who have already installed Debian
(where it is a matter of a mere apt-get dist-upgrade ) and may not
appeal to potential new users. Whereas the latter alternative (waiting
for a mature D-I) would not be of any help to _both_ groups.
IMHO we should try _not_ to deceive as many users as poss
int. This is really a genuine question, no
flaming intended.
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hdsploader behaves strange too).
Small compiling issues might be sorted out when packaging it, but if
the programs do not work properly, then they are probably not a good
candidate for putting them into Debian.
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ht. Well, filing a request for package does not hurt, the
packager has to evaluate the program's maturity.
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Es gibt zwei Regeln für Erfolg im Leben:
1. Erzähle den Leuten nie alles, was Du weißt.
ould not contain the source code.
- packages kernel-x.y.z which contains an _unmodified_ upstream
kernel source; patches can be applied to it by installing
kernel-patch-x.y.z-patchname (the way it currently is intended)
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27;t help if a grsecurity patch
does not apply because the source is messed up and the user does not
know about it (since it _claimed_ to be the original code).
Platform-specific patches should certainly go into the Debian default
installation kernel, but that is a completely different issue.
ith this solution if such an
unpatch is verbosely announced to the user (let's say, with a debconf
note of priority high).
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packages, thus cannot be removed.
deborphan is a great tool to remove unneeded library _after_ removing
applications. Just try it again after the dselect cleanup.
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anging it in /var all worked right.
I don't suppose that you entered it in the file 'conffiles' when
building the package. But if you use debhelper (dh_installdeb in
particular), then all files below etc/ are automatically entered in
the 'conffile' of the resulting deb.
M
l me anything), so I don't object
against it loudly. But I would certainly call it a pity if it
disappears. It would make Debian much less useful for the average LAMP
server.
Maybe someone can enlighten me here?
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Hi!
Nico Golde [2005-07-19 12:21 +0200]:
> Heyho,
> why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu?
This gave me a good laugh, and it's certainly way better than "SuSE"
or "Micro$$$ IIS" :-), but still a bit embarrasing...
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Hi Nico!
Nico Golde [2005-07-19 13:09 +0200]:
> Hello Martin,
>
> * Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-19 12:37]:
> > Nico Golde [2005-07-19 12:21 +0200]:
> > > Heyho,
> > > why is mentors.debian.net powered by Ubuntu?
> >
> > This gave
couple of
upstream developers (which just say "use the new upstream version,
dude!").
I think in the end we have to do the same for Debian.
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d Firefox 0.9.3, and enigmail upgrade), the
upgrade was pretty smooth and the users are happy again.
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a source upload. If a DD uploads a broken package, he should be told
so, and we should aim to help him do it better the next time (that's
what we do in Ubuntu and it works very well).
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ld and test the package anyway.
The system of source uploads works well in Ubuntu, so please don't try
to invent problems which don't matter in reality.
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Hi!
Hamish Moffatt [2005-08-22 23:47 +1000]:
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 03:31:40PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
> > Please let's not try to solve the problem of sloppy maintainers with a
> > (wrong) technical solution. If a maintainer doesn't care for his
> > packages,
s, different toolchain, etc.).
Why we deprive the majority (i386) of our users the privilege of
getting known good packages? (Since the majority of DDs does binary
uploads for i386 as well)?
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system, and execute
code (postinst, etc.), you can always screw up user's systems with a
malicious package.
That's why we mainly trust developers, not heuristics on the buildds.
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Hi Wouter!
Wouter Verhelst [2005-08-23 1:26 +0200]:
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 04:08:37PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
> > Hamish Moffatt [2005-08-22 23:47 +1000]:
> > > There is the possibility that developer builds get extra features
> > > enabled due to other installe
Hi!
Steve Langasek [2005-08-22 18:09 -0700]:
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 03:34:16PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
>
> > W. Borgert [2005-08-22 14:37 +0200]:
> > > Quoting Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > I used to think that too. I took a wander
>
> As a side note, I have myself thought about extending pbuilder using
> unionfs and overlays to avoid the tarball extraction for each build.
Indeed I referred to the overhead of tarball extraction and the like.
unionfs is a great idea, do you plan to integrate this into the
main p
h the amount of new compilers that were uploaded in the last weeks,
there is no other choice anyway.
I'm surprised how Debian can get away without doing that. So buildd
admins need to manually watch for toolchain updates and install them?
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-deps and build-essential, so there shouldn't actually be build
conflicts.
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it would not be enabled by default.
> So, I guess we could, indeed...anyway I bet you'll ask us to do so at
> some moment, won't you?
*asking* :-)
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Hi Patrick,
Patrick Ringl [2008-04-21 3:46 +0200]:
> I am concerned about 'cupsddk' which recently passed NEW. On 25th of
> march I contacted pkg-cups for joining the team and working on cupsddk
> [1] since I am about to repackage 'splix' (a driver for samsung lase
package
That might very well be so, I haven't checked it at all. I just wanted
to ensure that you are aware of it.
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have the 'fake UI' problem. A truly
good solution for this is the "press Ctrl+Alt+Del before entering your
password" schema, but even Windows abandonded it again, for usability
reasons I guess.
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Martin Pitt [2008-04-28 9:22 +0200]:
> That's what the current Ubuntu version of libpolkit does (patch
> attached FYI).
*cough*
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uld really stay split, too, IMHO. They are a
compatibility layer, and you do not need to have them installed in
order to use cups for printing on the client side. Also, from your
POV, merging -bsd into -client would only aggravate the problem?
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g.)
That's interesting indeed! So you avoid that by using an OSS driver
instead of the ALSA one? I can really not imagine how esound on top of
a broken ALSA driver would sound better than just using the ALSA
output directly?
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Ubuntu got a lot of bug reports about random desktop crashes/deadlocks
with esound, that's why I learned to hate it so much (apart from the
totally ridiculous video A/V desync).
> ALSA: The problems above.
> ALSA<-ESD: I never really tested.
Thanks
Package: wnpp
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* Package name: editmoin
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Programming
ecurity (getting there is looots of more work),
but one has to start somewhere.
Thanks in advance for any comments,
Martin
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[1] gksu's security properties are just *so* horrible... That program
is a mess. (I haven't looked at kdesu, but I guess it's not mu
course. Does ELF support anything like that?
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Aaron M. Ucko [2007-12-10 12:32 -0500]:
> Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > That would be ideal, of course. Does ELF support anything like that?
>
> AFAICT, it should be possible to use a custom .note.* or .gnu.*
> section for such purposes. I'
gh.
* If/once they break API, they should get a name like libjpeg8-dev,
but then of course a virtual libjpeg-dev would be wrong.
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ess, should have thought about that
before. I'm currently preparing another upload with a proper symbols
file. I need to leave now for about 2.5 hours, but you'll definitively
get a new and tested upload by midnight (CEST) today.
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tested by checking psql's own dependencies (-client now
depends on >= 9.0~, but -contrib only on >= 8.4~), and rebuilding an
rdepends.
Sorry again for the brainfart,
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h their soname as suffix, -dev packages add
the corresponding symlink without a soname.
BTW: Corrections appreciated, I'm still quite new to Debian.
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[1]
http://archive.linuxsymposium.org/ols2003/Proceedings/All-Reprints/Reprint-Kroah-Hartman-OLS2003.pdf
[2] http://bugs.debian.org/215257
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upgraded immediately.
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That sounds reasonable. I contacted upstream whether and when they
plan to stabilize the interface and/or ship a shared lib.
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es not make much
sense to have a separate package with lsusb and systool, they could be
integrated into the udev package. I can send you all the additional
stuff (library documentation, userspace tools and manpages) for
inclusion) if you really want to merge the upstream packages.
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ry static.
I sent a mail to upstream two days ago, but didn't receive an answer
yet. I will wait with uploading (or rather, looking for a sponsor)
until I get an answer or run out of patience (maybe after a week of
silence).
Have a nice day!
Martin
BTW: No need to CC me, I'm subscribed (s
Hi!
On 2003-10-13 21:08 +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
> I sent a mail to upstream two days ago, but didn't receive an answer
> yet. I will wait with uploading (or rather, looking for a sponsor)
> until I get an answer or run out of patience (maybe after a week of
> silence).
F
vel which I want
to do now. If anybody objects I will just do it.
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Hi!
On 2003-10-16 19:24 +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 11:00:47AM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote:
>
> > Pre-Dependencies are supposed to be discussed at d-devel which I want
> > to do now. If anybody objects I will just do it.
>
> Doesn't that
Hi Russell and all others,
On 2003-10-16 21:39 +1000, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 19:00, Martin Pitt wrote:
> > The package postgresql needs to use 'adduser' and 'addgroup' in its
> > preinst script to properly save the current database be
is?)
> I've recently learnt about some of these things the hard way... ;)
I believe that and that's the reason why I want to understand this
thoroughly.
Thanks in advance for the time you spent to teach newbies! :-) The
policy only explains the purpose of pre-depends and I didn't find
anything in the Developer's Reference.
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Hi!
Am 2003-10-17 2:18 +0100 schrieb Colin Watson:
> Use adduser. It's your friend.
This is a word! :-) Fine, I'll make it so then.
Russell, thanks for your explanation, I know what you mean now.
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e it also annoys be. But then again, I
_do_ want the partitions checked every now and then (e. g. every 25
mounts). Wouldn't this disable fsck completely? Or is the ckeck
triggered on a different place?
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the final argument "don't
complain, do it yourself" and the others with "get your fingers off
Debian, let the Real Wise Men (TM) do the job".
Please don't get me wrong, I don't want to insult anybody here; I'm
just concerned that these kinds of unnecessary argues irrevocably harm
Debian.
I wish everbody a nice day!
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Hi!
On 2003-11-17 0:17 +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> If you don't write the ITP first, you run the risk of somebody else
> duplicating your work! Exactly what happened here.
Not quite exactly, as far as I understood, Filip did not send an ITP
at all. This would have decreased the chance of dou
Hi aj, hi all others,
On 2003-12-01 14:45 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Another possibility is to just drop packages that aren't maintained well
> enough. While this is somewhat attractive, it doesn't really serve our
> users any better than saying "Why don't we just lower our standards?"
Basical
dd
^M prefix might not make a good first impression...
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tools?
Have a nice day!
Martin
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Hi!
On 2003-12-10 9:20 +0100, Martin Pitt wrote:
> Copy /etc/modprobe.devfs to /etc/modprobe.d/1devfs and run
> update-modules. This should regenerate /lib/modules/modprobe.conf.
Err, I just see that you didn't tell whether you are using devfs or
the "old" ones. In
it is worth the effort?
- By now I don't allow sysfsutils to go into Sarge because it isn't
used yet (udev, diagnostics...). My personal feeling is to wait
until kernel 2.6 stable is in sarge and udev is in unstable and
works.
I appreciate any hints and comments.
arco, do you plan to use the dynamic library of libsysfs for udev? If
so, you have to depend on libsysfs0 anyway and the /sys problem is
solved. If you want to keep linking the static library for some reason
then there may be a different solution. What do you think?
Have a nice day!
Martin
7;#include ', all these Win-looking base classes, the
dependency on MFC and the DLL stuff seem to make that pretty hard :-/.
There are not even Makefiles to give it a try.
Unless you managed to compile the stuff (it seems to be very
interesting), I suggest that you close this bug.
Have a nice d
peaking as an user I would like that. Please just don't do
it when it already exists AND there are files in it (or sth different
than sysfs is mounted on it). Creating /dev/shm should be less
problematic.
Have a nice day!
Martin
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