Hi Alexander,

Wow.  Thank you for your quick reply and clear explanations.

Comments and questions below.  Please note my description of 
difficulties importing a recently-Scid-opened PGN into a 
newly-opened Scid database...

On 6/02/11, Alexander Wagner wrote:

>Currently you can not directly save to a PGN file. (You
>actually don't want to in most occasions either. Scids
>native si4 is much more efficient.)

I agree.  I want to open a single-game PGN, save to an si4 
"MyGames" database, annotate it, save.

>>None of the save menu items seem like what I want.

>They are in fact, but if I get it correctly you try to use
>them on the "wrong" database.

I confess initial confusion about which database I was using or 
if I was using one at all.   I like your suggestion below, to 
save the PGN into a database before doing anything else.

>No need for the Clipbase to get involved here. This would
>complicate things unecessarily. (Though it works, you can
>import to the clipbase and then copy to your DB.)

I may have encountered a bug in the Mac version where if I 
didn't go through the Clipbase first, the game disappeared from 
the target database when I double-clicked it.  Unless I was 
hallucinating, I'll submit a more formal report later.  Lets not 
get distracted by it.

>Open the database of your games (say MyGames), then just use
>Tools / Import File of PGN games.

OK, that sounds like a sensible workflow.  Thank you.

>double click on the _database_ instead of launching Scid.
>Your Finder should know how to fire up Scid with the DB in
>question.

Yes, that works fine on the Mac.

>If you use the same bases all the time, you can create a shortcut /
>launcher (I don't know how it's called in MacSpeak).

"Alias" in Mac speak :)  Good suggestion.  Also, QuicKeys is a 
useful program on both platforms.

>Alternatively, if you prefer to work through your file system with the
>file open dialogue...

Yes...

>...fire up Scid by double clicking the PGN from your iPhone, you might
>want to open "MyGames" in paralel ... and just drag your PGN database
>onto MyGames database. This will also do the import mentioned above as
>well.

...that is the way I'd like to work.

However, while double-clicking does open the PGN in Scid, once I 
open the Scid "MyGames" database the PGN seems to disappear from 
Scid.  At any rate, I can't find it.  (Or, do you mean drag the 
PGN from the desktop? - but that doesn't seem to work, anyway.)

Could my layout be preventing that workflow from working? - 
hiding the PGN?  Getting to the bottom of this may be my key issue.

>In all cases: key is to import your PGN from the iPhone to a
>Scid database _before_ doing anything.

OK, that is helpful.

>Also note that the clipbase feels like a Scid database but it is only
>temporarly in memory and never gets stored to the disk.

Yes, I suspect many new users, like me, discover that the hard way.

>Scid towards PGN (open them read only) and the Clipbase (temporary db
>without storage). I think both concepts are quite wise, but probably
>do not work as expeced in the first place.

I agree with read-only PGN.  I reserve judgement, pending more 
experience, on Clipbase saving.
>
>HTH :)

It helps much.  Thank you Alexander.

Scid is excellent.  Chess Assistant's bugs, deficiencies and 
lack of progress/improvement/fixes over years of sham releases 
have been exasperating. Its a blessing to have a fine 
alternative; and Mac compatibility is a lovely icing on the cake.

My deepest thanks to the Scid contributors.

All the best,

Steve


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