On Saturday 14 December 2002 03:43, Ben Russo wrote:
> On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 16:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
>
> The latest 7.3 openssh package is 3.1p1-6
> make sure the redhat mirror you are using has the latest.
> The 3.1p1-x, the 'X' part is the epoch number which according to redhat
> outweighs the version number of the package.
>
> So it could be possible for RedHat to release a package versioned
> 2.2-1, then release an errata package 2.3-2, and then have a superceding
> errata release that is 2.2-3....  I guess that could be confusing, but I
> can't think of a better way to do it.

I assume that this is strictly within a RH distribution model. For example, 
the openssh-3.1p1-6.i386.rpm for RH 7.3 does not supercede 
openssh-3.4p1-2.i386.rpm for RH 8.0 even though the epoch number for the 
former would indicate that it should.

> The Errata Notes for Security problems almost always do refer to the
> CERT or the CVE announcement.  Heck a lot of times  CERT even tells
> you what package and FTP url to get the RedHat patch.
>
> If I remember correctly there is a very VALID reason to back-port the
> security fix to 3.1p1 rather than just distribute 3.4
> The reason I think I remember is that version 3.4 required a newer
> version of openssl, that new version of openssl that might have required
> a change of lots of other programs like mod_ssl, stunnel, links, w3m,
> fetchmail, etc....  At the very least all those programs would
> have to have been tested.
>
> I'm really glad that RedHat backports the fixes, cause I would be caught
> between a rock and a hard place if I had to make a choice between
> changing the openssl lib version on a production server or having
> a known hole in my SSHd.  I feel confident knowing that any potential
> bug I am introducing is limited to the program that would be vulnerable
> without the fix, rather than making a sweeping change that could
> introduce *new* bugs to all kinds of other apps I have on my box.
>
> -Ben.

>From another conversation I had in this thread it appears the errata page 
cannot be depended on for history so I guess the source files are going to be 
what's required. You bring up some good points and I'll consider pulling down 
the source rpms for the stuff that I find to be critical before bailing out 
entirely and going to the source tarballs assuming the rpms are available in 
a timely fashion.

Regards, Mike Klinke



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