At the risk of sounding ignorant but not wanting to miss the opportunity to bash M$ (oh, and please ignore the fact that I'm using a Hotmail account to send this email):
>From an admin-ish standpoint: It seems that EVERY single virus alert I've had to deal with lately had to do with some M$ exploit (i.e. Goner, Nimda, Code RED). Ironically, the word about a potential usually comes from a 3rd party such as antivirus developers or the news and not M$ itself (even if they don't necessarily do antivirus software). What's the deal there? Not that I'm excusing RedHat's behavior entirely, but at least their announcement was SOME acknowledgement of responsibility to its customers (I'm sure there were selfish M$-like reasons for doing that). I think Linux, in general, is far superior to WinBLAHx. The main problem is that people are scared of it. And M$ doesn't hesitate to exploit (no pun intended) that fact. Then there's that whole "open source controversy".... Gregory C. -------------------------------------------------------- Maybe the best answer is the dumb question >From: Justin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: FUD alert! >Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 16:08:37 -0500 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [199.183.24.211] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBDD92A0700B64004318AC7B718D30C5B0; Thu, 06 Dec 2001 13:11:36 -0800 >Received: from listman.redhat.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])by >listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPid 1A1BE40360; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 >16:11:29 -0500 (EST) >Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com >[172.16.44.254])by listman.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A43554031Efor ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 16:10:45 -0500 (EST) >Received: from mail.redhat.com (mail.redhat.com [199.183.24.239])by >int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fB6LAjp27454for ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 16:10:45 -0500 >Received: (from mail@localhost)by mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) id >fB6LAjq22440for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 16:10:45 >-0500 >Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu (lennier.cc.vt.edu [198.82.162.213])by >mail.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.8.7) with ESMTP id fB6LAiw22435for ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 16:10:44 -0500 >Received: from dagger.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >[10.1.1.11])by lennier.cc.vt.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id >fB6LAhj254698for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 16:10:43 -0500 >(EST) >Received: from there (jshimp.campus.vt.edu [198.82.65.51])by >dagger.cc.vt.edu (Mirapoint)with SMTP id ANR77333;Thu, 6 Dec 2001 16:10:42 >-0500 (EST) >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu, 06 Dec 2001 13:12:47 -0800 >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <E16C5Mn-0002hF-00@rhenium> >In-Reply-To: <E16C5Mn-0002hF-00@rhenium> >X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 >Precedence: bulk >X-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=help> >List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >List-Subscribe: ><https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list>,<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=subscribe> >List-Id: General Red Hat Linux discussion list <redhat-list.redhat.com> >List-Unsubscribe: ><https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list>,<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=unsubscribe> >List-Archive: <https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/private/redhat-list/> >X-Original-Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 16:08:37 -0500 > >On Thursday 06 December 2001 03:43 pm, you wrote: > > Mmm, > > > > I'me fairly new to linux and have a few questions for you folks' about > > this Email from M$ . > > > > How much of what they say is true? They are obviously taking great >delight > > about the issue but how much is just MS properganda meant to divert the > > public eye from Code Red etc? > > > > Am I right in reading that this Email was sent by MS to their customers? > > If so, are all their communications so unprofessional and badly written, > > let alone, so unethical? > > > > Did RedHat act badly by releasing information and a patch before others? > > > > I pressume that the fuss is about Security Advisory - RHSA-2001:157-06, >if > > so I am grateful to RH for alerting me (that is, after all, why we > > subscribe to the alerts list) and allowing me to make an informed choice >as > > to wether my system is at risk. My view (opinion only) , if MS and >other > > developers know about the problem then so do the crackers, why wait. > > > > I really do not know much about the IT world, but my experience is that >MS > > and MS products are dishonest (the box looks great ...) and that Linux >is > > an 'honest' concept. As a customer I demand Honesty from products and > > vendors, MS do not fit that bill (,Bill). RH do, however. > > > > Mike > > > > RE: FUD alert!. > > > > On Thursday 06 December 2001 19:47, you wrote: > > > Here's an email that was forwarded to me, originally from a Mircosoft > > > employee to his customers. The FUD factor is off the scale! > > > > > > <snip> > > Oh don't we all love M$, funny i have not heard anything about ftp or web >sites being shut down... seems like there is a fix now, so what is the big >deal? Oh yes the big deal is that M$ has alot of nerve to try and bash >(forgive the pun) Linux. Why do they have alot of nerve? well they are >willing to make me pay $180 for an operating system that is about as useful >as a screen door on a submarine. Perhaps they are jealus, after all Linux >does have one thing that microsoft can only dream about., a solid Operating >System. > >Justin ~ (fat32 free for over a year now) > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Redhat-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list > > > >_______________________________________________ >Redhat-list mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp _______________________________________________ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list
