Ya know, if he can't figure it out himself why bother.. If you give this guy
any help you know he is going to bug the hell out of you for details.. Look
Dump-butts, putting a sniffer on a line is one of the most basic skill
sets.. Unless you figure there is some magic way to open your AOL dialup,
say a few all powerful words and there you go, in which case maybe I can
help for a small fee..

No guarantees..


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jeff Lane
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 2:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How to Setup Tcpdump to nail x-girlfriend?


On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Michael R. Jinks wrote:

> I may have read wrong, but I think he's trying to intercept mail --
> like, for reading, not for sending to the bit bucket.
>
> If that's the case, then that is most definitely not playing fair.
> Network managers, legal departments, and HR managers all take an
> exceedingly dim view of such things, not to mention the general ethics
> of systems administrators.  It's just wrong, no matter what somebody may
> have done, to intercept their private conversations.  It is even more
> wrong if you happen to be root somewhere on the network; root users are
> vested with an extra responsibility, even if nobody has ever told you
> so, to play extra-cautiously around the network.
>
> The things that PHD wants to do are exceedingly easy for a root user
> given the right kind of network; knowing how, and even sharing the
> information on how, is something that I believe all should be free to
> do; but actually doing so is the highest of crimes in the networked
> world, where privacy is rapidly being eroded from all sides as it is.

Definitely, I agree with you.  I think that information should be shares,
(part of the reason I support FSF, EFF and 2600).  However, I wouldnt be
the one to give him this information.  He should read a book if he wants
to know that badly...  two reasons:

a: Its easy to get someone to tell you how to do something, but you learn
so much more if you figure it out on your own.

b: since it may be illegal, and is definitely frowned upon, while the info
should be shared, I would never give such info to someone who asked like
he did.  He basically said, I want to intercept someones mail... how do I
do it?

So I already know that his intentions are not just for education or
exploration...

oh well..

my 3 cents (inflation adjusted)

cheers



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