Seems simple but this doesn't work, we've tried it.
1- As soon as you attempt to change the nameservers, register.com drops your
DNS.
2- You are then down for 7-24 hours waiting for register.com to update the
root servers.
- Erik
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Hatcher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Erik Aronesty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: register.com in violation of icann policies
> There is no downtime.
>
> Change your nameservers while the registration is still at register.com.
> (Make sure you have the name servers set up and tested before doing this.)
> Wait until the new nameservers are in the zone files, and are receiving
> queries for the domains in question. Then change registrars. The name
> servers do not change when the domain name is transferred to the new
> registrar. (But there is nothing to prevent the losing registrar from
> deleting the lost domain names from their name servers and other services.
> Just make sure you aren't still using their services when you leave!)
>
> No problem.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Erik Aronesty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:19 PM
> Subject: Re: register.com in violation of icann policies
>
>
> This solution would be OK if downtime was an acceptable option. But
global
> downtime is not an option in today's marketplace.
>
> a) TTL does nothing for new users - we sign up 500 new users each day.
>
> b) our ASP services provide a 99.5% uptime guarantee
>
> c) downtime of 24 hours could cost our firm hundreds of thousands of
> dollars in refunds
>
> d) we can't afford to damage our firms reputation as a reliable
provider
>
> We maintain 8 servers in 3 countries on this domain name - just to ensure
> 24x7 uptime on the web site.
>
> Also, I can't believe that even 7 hours of downtime is "acceptable" to the
> policymakers at ICANN.
>
> - Erik
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Erik Aronesty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: register.com in violation of icann policies
>
>
> >
> > Hi Erik,
> >
> > From the looks of it, any course you persue will have some downtime.
> > But it needen't be weeks.
> > You need to do some forward planning here. I assume the IP's that
you
> > have will not change, only where the dns info is coming from.
> >
> > So here's what you do:
> >
> > 1) Setup DNS somewhere else.
> > 2) Add all your domains to that dns & test.
> > 3) Do a dns transfer for all your domains. NOT a domain transfer.
Here's
> > why. A dns change takes about 7 hours to get propogated through the
root
> > servers. While a transfer can take over a week, during which time
> > register.com WILL hose your DNS.
> > 4) Once dns has switched over, do a domain transfer.
> >
> > IF the IP's are the same, you should experience no down-time at all,
> > especially if the TTL is set to high enough. Though register.com
probably
> > has a low ttl, in which case your downtime at most will be a few hours.
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > Erik Aronesty writes:
> >
> > > Dear OpenSRS,
> > >
> > > I want to change to OpenSRS for all my domains - but Register.Com
> > > has threatened to shut us down if we initiate the request. I sent a
> > > message to ICANN, but they ignored it.
> > >
> > > We have our DNS on their servers, and Register.com will
> > > immediately terminate our DNS services if
> > >
> > > a) you attempt to initiate a change of registrars or
> > > b) you attempt to initiate a change of DNS providers
> > >
> > > I don't see any way we can change to OpenSRS without all of our sites
> > > (about 200 of them) going down for weeks while the transfer is going
on.
> > >
> > > ICANN should, have a clear, specific policy requiring that the
registrar
> > > "unbundle" all secondary domain services during a transfer.
> > >
> > > - Erik
> > >
> > > P.S. See the message below to the ICANN people
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Erik Aronesty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2000 11:01 AM
> > > Subject: register.com's dns policies
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'd like to bring your attention to the abusive policies of one of
the
> > > > largest registrars, register.com.
> > > >
> > > > Register.com engages in a technically insidious practice designed to
> > > > frighten people into keeping their domains at register.com. They
have
> > > been
> > > > secretly violating their ICANN agreement (sections II.D.1.b and
> II.D.2.v).
> > > > The fact that nothing has been done about this seems to imply that
> wither
> > > a)
> > > > ICANN does not have the resources to track industry practice of its
> > > largest
> > > > registrars, or b) ICANN is not serious about competitiveness in the
> > > > industry.
> > > >
> > > > ** Register.Com shuts your domain name down for weeks if you try to
> change
> > > > away from them**
> > > >
> > > > Here's how they do this:
> > > >
> > > > Register.com offers free DNS services to people who register their
> domains
> > > > with them. 90% of their substantial customer base take advantage of
> this
> > > > service. This seems harmless at first.
> > > >
> > > > What they do NOT tell you as part of your registration agreement (or
> > > > anywhere in print), is that Register.com will immediately terminate
> your
> > > DNS
> > > > services if
> > > >
> > > > a) you attempt to initiate a change of registrars or
> > > > b) you attempt to initiate a change of DNS providers
> > > >
> > > > Register.Com supervisors have told us that they will not assist us,
> even
> > > if
> > > > we pay them extra to keep our services online during a transfer.
> > > >
> > > > This policy has simply and effectively has prevented us from
changing
> > > > registrars (at a savings of about $1000), and I felt that ICANN was
> the
> > > only
> > > > place we could turn to for help.
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know what can be done.
> > > >
> > > > - Erik Aronesty
> > > > President
> > > > Prime Data Corp.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Alexey Zilber
> > DAYAK
> > Need to register or transfer a domain?
> > www.dayak.com charges only $15/year.
> > 40 megs of hosting space? $10!
> >
>
>
