I forgot to ask: is all C-41 processing the same?  I ask because on  
my C-41 B&W I had processed at Wal-Mart, some of the whites have a  
bit of a purplish tone.  My instinct tells me that this is a result  
of inadequate light in these particular photos...or is C-41 for B&W  
at Wal-Mart just a bad idea?

Thanks,
Glen

On Oct 3, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Adam Maas wrote:

> Try each, settle on whichever produces the better results for you  
> (I'd forgotten the N80 was 1/2 stops only). The flash system in the  
> N80 is essentially identical to the F100 (as is the metering) apart  
> from the F100's selectable exposure stop increments.
>
> -Adam
>
>
> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>> Thank you, Adam, for your detailed commentary.  Also, I thank
>> everyone else who has responded--even the fellow who said I should
>> have bought a Pentax (Dave, I think) :-)
>>
>> Adam: I tried dialing-in the -0.7 FEC value you suggest.  It seems
>> the N80 will take only 1/2 increments (-0.5, -1.0, etc.).  I do not
>> see any other way to set it.  Is there something I am missing?  Also,
>> if I am correct about this, would -0.5 be sufficient, or would I be
>> wasting my time?...or is this just another reason to look into an
>> F100 (as you have suggested)?
>>
>> Glen
>>
>> On Oct 3, 2007, at 9:47 AM, Adam Maas wrote:
>>
>>> Glen Tortorella wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Since I have a new, more "advanced" body, the N80, I tried taking
>>>> some shots I would have avoided in the past.  The results were
>>>> awful--
>>>> not one good shot on the entire role, a miserable 0-for-24 (Kodak
>>>> Gold 200).
>>>>
>>>> In the past, I would avoid two types of shots: 1) indoor shots  
>>>> and 2)
>>>> outdoor "high sun" shots in the fair weather months (i.e. during  
>>>> the
>>>> hours of about 10:00-4:00).  In doing so, I have assured myself
>>>> decent, but not necessarily perfect, results.  Since the N80 has a
>>>> better metering system (10-segment) and a pop-up flash that is
>>>> supposed to be pretty good, I figured: "let me see what it can do."
>>>> As I have said, the results were dreadful.  Here are the main  
>>>> issues.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Every indoor flash shot showed at least moderate spotlight/wash-
>>>> out effect of the subject (people).
>>> Dial in -0.7 stops of Flash exposure compensation when shooting
>>> people with Nikon flashes (including the popup). Leave this
>>> permanently dialed in.
>>>
>>>> 2) On the outdoor "high sun" shots, the camera turned a seemingly
>>>> minor shadows (through the viewfinder) on the subject's face into a
>>>> black blobs that covered almost all of the subject's face.
>>> Add flash, leave the -0.7 stops of FEC dialed in.
>>>
>>>> 3) When taking indoor shots with the flash, I would meter (10-
>>>> segment) something like 1/30 or 1/45 or perhaps 1/60 at, say, f2.
>>>> With the flash powered up, I do not think it ever metered
>>>> differently.  For example, 1/30 at f/2 was still 1/30 at f/2  
>>>> with the
>>>> flash enabled.  Is this correct, or is there something wrong  
>>>> with my
>>>> camera?
>>> That is correct, the N80 will attempt to balance the exposure if it
>>> can get the shutter between 1/125 and 1/30 or so, with a slight
>>> bias towards the flash illumination (hence the FEC I recommend). If
>>> you want a pure flash exposure, shoot in manual.
>>>
>>>
>>>> 4) The one decent shot in the whole role--an indoor shot using only
>>>> available light...go figure?--was spoiled by some sort of small  
>>>> speck
>>>> on the subject's face.  I usually keep my filter free of dust, etc.
>>>> Could this speck have appeared as a result of the cheap  
>>>> processing I
>>>> used (Wal-Mart C-41)?
>>> Probably. Check your negs.
>>>
>>>> I know that using a fill flash may have alleviated the problem
>>>> expressed in issue number 2, but, since I have had my subjects  
>>>> turn a
>>>> bit ghastly by using the flash, I am hesitant to use it indoors or
>>>> outdoors.  I would appreciate any advice or commentary (or even pep
>>>> talk), as I am pretty down about this.  What good is a more
>>>> "advanced" camera if I cannot even come remotely close to
>>>> satisfactory results on the more difficult shots (i.e. indoor,  
>>>> "high
>>>> sun," etc.)?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Glen
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Fill flash is your friend, but remember direct flash always looks a
>>> bit ghastly. A (cheap) SB-24 and an SC-17 or SC-28 cord will get
>>> the flash off-camera with full TTL, and is a much better option.
>>>
>>> -Adam
>>>
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