True, but I purchased a brand new N80 and MB-16 for the price I indicated--with box, manual, etc.--and the price also included shipping. Whenever I could, I tend to prefer buying new.
Glen On Sep 28, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > Glen, > > An extra $90 would have gotten you into the F100 from KEH ($265 in > BGN condition) ;-) > > Note the F100 uses AA's even without the grip (Unlike th N80, the > AA's and slightly better handling are the sole reasons to get an > MB-16. The F100's MB-15 grip increases FPS to 5 from 4.5 and offers > a rear control dial, shutter release and AF-On button, it takes 6 > AA's or a dedicated rechargable pack vs the 4 AA's that the body's > AA carrier takes). > > -Adam > > Glen Tortorella wrote: >> Thank you for the detailed commentary, Adam. >> >> Wow, the N80 "feels like flimsy plastic" compared to the F100. Since >> I have gotten the N80, I have been thinking that it makes my ZX-M >> feel like flimsy plastic--a scant 320 grams vs. 515 for the N80. I >> am sure that the F100 is quite a nice body, and, if I had the funds, >> I might try one. Considering the deal I got on the N80 ($175 for >> body and MB-16 pack...which seems unimaginable to me in view of the >> N80's functionality, etc.), though, it makes it seem almost senseless >> to think about the F100...but I am the type that would think about >> it, anyway :-) >> >> Glen >> >> On Sep 28, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Adam Maas wrote: >> >>> It's quite noticably larger, especially with the vertical grip >>> (It's actually a bit larger than an F5 with the grip attached). The >>> F100 is notably heavier, much more solid feeling (it makes the N80 >>> feel like flimsy plastic). >>> >>> The F100's dimensions are: 155 x 113 x 66mm and it weighs 785g. The >>> F80/N80's dimensions are:141.5 x 98.5 x 71mm and it weighs 515g. >>> That's a fairly significant difference. Note the F80 is plastic >>> over metal frame, while the F100 is a full metal body with >>> rubberized grips. >>> >>> The viewfinder is also significant, with the F80 having 92% >>> coverage at .71-.75x magnification (depending on diopter settings) >>> with an early-generation LCD overlay (which dims the finder, >>> especially when the camera is off). The F100's finder has 96% >>> coverage at .76x without the LCD overlay (Note Nikon has seriously >>> improved the LCD overlays, with the newest generation costing >>> almost no brightness when the camera is turned on, the F80 was the >>> first camera to use this technology and it did not have the same >>> performance). >>> >>> You'd really need to use the F100 to appreciate it. It's not a >>> small camera, but it is simply one of the best handling AF cameras >>> ever. And it delivers incredible performance in a small package (To >>> get similar performance from most other cameras would require a >>> large battery grip) >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> >>> Glen Tortorella wrote: >>>> I was not aware of the fact that the F100 body is larger than >>>> the N80 >>>> body. I am glad, then, that I opted for the N80. How much >>>> larger is >>>> the F100, as I have not completely ruled out that body (in terms >>>> of a >>>> possible future purchase)? Does it feel significantly larger? >>>> >>>> Glen >>>> >>>> On Sep 28, 2007, at 1:27 PM, Adam Maas wrote: >>>> >>>>> Glen, >>>>> >>>>> I dislike the N80 finder, however I've been spoiled by the >>>>> excellent finders in Nikon's higher-end bodies (as well as the LX >>>>> and MX). The N80 finder will compare well to the very similar >>>>> finders in Pentax's consumer bodies. I also find the body to be >>>>> too >>>>> small, but I'm used to the larger F100, F2, F3 and my Mamiya 645 >>>>> kit. >>>>> >>>>> And yes, Digitals tend to be a bit thicker, they need the extra >>>>> thickness for the LCD, main circuit board and sensor. >>>>> >>>>> -Adam >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote: >>>>>> Adam: I do not know if you were able to read a post I wrote a >>>>>> couple >>>>>> of days ago regarding my N80 body purchase, but, anyway, I >>>>>> received >>>>>> the body and am quite impressed. I thought the smallish >>>>>> viewfinder >>>>>> magnification (supposedly .75x) might be a hinderance, but I find >>>>>> that, so far, the viewfinder is not all that bad. In fact, it >>>>>> seems >>>>>> as if may be even a tad better than my ZX-M's finder, which is >>>>>> supposedly 0.77x. >>>>>> >>>>>> The N80 is loaded with functionality, and I find that, with the >>>>>> MB-16 >>>>>> pack attached, it has good balance and a comfortable feel in my >>>>>> hand. I had the D40 and K100D in my hand yesterday, and I >>>>>> thought >>>>>> both bodies were a bit thick for my hand. The K100D's body is a >>>>>> bit >>>>>> thinner, and thus it felt a little better, but the N80 is just >>>>>> about >>>>>> perfect for my somewhat small hand. Perhaps this is how all >>>>>> digital >>>>>> bodies tend to be (a bit thick)? When comparing the feel of the >>>>>> ZX-M >>>>>> and N80 to the digital bodies I have mentioned, it is similar to >>>>>> holding a baseball as opposed to a softball. >>>>>> >>>>>> Glen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>>>> and follow the directions. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>> and follow the directions. >> >> > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
