My (used) F100 came in essentially the same condition, although the warning card had been removed (And placed in the box). And I was the 3rd owner. But it was in KEH LN shape when I got it (And I payed LN prices for it, $450CDN with LN grip, in box)
-Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: > Yes, it appears to be NOS. It came with everything--from warranty > card to plastic wrappings...even the little warning card (in > reference to the screen) that is placed inside the door. I am glad > to have found an N80 in such pristine shape. > > Glen > > On Sep 28, 2007, at 9:54 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > >> Somebody was dumping NOS then, MSRP on the N80 alone was twice that >> (the >> F100 was a $1200+ body new). The only Nikon film cameras available new >> now are the F6 and (cosina-built) FM10, and the latter is only new as >> Nikon knows the day after they discontinue it the Bessaflex F will be >> announced. >> >> -Adam >> >> >> Glen Tortorella wrote: >>> True, but I purchased a brand new N80 and MB-16 for the price I >>> indicated--with box, manual, etc.--and the price also included >>> shipping. Whenever I could, I tend to prefer buying new. >>> >>> Glen >>> >>> On Sep 28, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Adam Maas wrote: >>> >>>> Glen, >>>> >>>> An extra $90 would have gotten you into the F100 from KEH ($265 in >>>> BGN condition) ;-) >>>> >>>> Note the F100 uses AA's even without the grip (Unlike th N80, the >>>> AA's and slightly better handling are the sole reasons to get an >>>> MB-16. The F100's MB-15 grip increases FPS to 5 from 4.5 and offers >>>> a rear control dial, shutter release and AF-On button, it takes 6 >>>> AA's or a dedicated rechargable pack vs the 4 AA's that the body's >>>> AA carrier takes). >>>> >>>> -Adam >>>> >>>> Glen Tortorella wrote: >>>>> Thank you for the detailed commentary, Adam. >>>>> >>>>> Wow, the N80 "feels like flimsy plastic" compared to the F100. >>>>> Since >>>>> I have gotten the N80, I have been thinking that it makes my ZX-M >>>>> feel like flimsy plastic--a scant 320 grams vs. 515 for the N80. I >>>>> am sure that the F100 is quite a nice body, and, if I had the >>>>> funds, >>>>> I might try one. Considering the deal I got on the N80 ($175 for >>>>> body and MB-16 pack...which seems unimaginable to me in view of the >>>>> N80's functionality, etc.), though, it makes it seem almost >>>>> senseless >>>>> to think about the F100...but I am the type that would think about >>>>> it, anyway :-) >>>>> >>>>> Glen >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 28, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Adam Maas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It's quite noticably larger, especially with the vertical grip >>>>>> (It's actually a bit larger than an F5 with the grip attached). >>>>>> The >>>>>> F100 is notably heavier, much more solid feeling (it makes the N80 >>>>>> feel like flimsy plastic). >>>>>> >>>>>> The F100's dimensions are: 155 x 113 x 66mm and it weighs 785g. >>>>>> The >>>>>> F80/N80's dimensions are:141.5 x 98.5 x 71mm and it weighs 515g. >>>>>> That's a fairly significant difference. Note the F80 is plastic >>>>>> over metal frame, while the F100 is a full metal body with >>>>>> rubberized grips. >>>>>> >>>>>> The viewfinder is also significant, with the F80 having 92% >>>>>> coverage at .71-.75x magnification (depending on diopter settings) >>>>>> with an early-generation LCD overlay (which dims the finder, >>>>>> especially when the camera is off). The F100's finder has 96% >>>>>> coverage at .76x without the LCD overlay (Note Nikon has seriously >>>>>> improved the LCD overlays, with the newest generation costing >>>>>> almost no brightness when the camera is turned on, the F80 was the >>>>>> first camera to use this technology and it did not have the same >>>>>> performance). >>>>>> >>>>>> You'd really need to use the F100 to appreciate it. It's not a >>>>>> small camera, but it is simply one of the best handling AF cameras >>>>>> ever. And it delivers incredible performance in a small package >>>>>> (To >>>>>> get similar performance from most other cameras would require a >>>>>> large battery grip) >>>>>> >>>>>> -Adam >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote: >>>>>>> I was not aware of the fact that the F100 body is larger than >>>>>>> the N80 >>>>>>> body. I am glad, then, that I opted for the N80. How much >>>>>>> larger is >>>>>>> the F100, as I have not completely ruled out that body (in terms >>>>>>> of a >>>>>>> possible future purchase)? Does it feel significantly larger? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Glen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sep 28, 2007, at 1:27 PM, Adam Maas wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Glen, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I dislike the N80 finder, however I've been spoiled by the >>>>>>>> excellent finders in Nikon's higher-end bodies (as well as >>>>>>>> the LX >>>>>>>> and MX). The N80 finder will compare well to the very similar >>>>>>>> finders in Pentax's consumer bodies. I also find the body to be >>>>>>>> too >>>>>>>> small, but I'm used to the larger F100, F2, F3 and my Mamiya 645 >>>>>>>> kit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And yes, Digitals tend to be a bit thicker, they need the extra >>>>>>>> thickness for the LCD, main circuit board and sensor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Adam >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote: >>>>>>>>> Adam: I do not know if you were able to read a post I wrote a >>>>>>>>> couple >>>>>>>>> of days ago regarding my N80 body purchase, but, anyway, I >>>>>>>>> received >>>>>>>>> the body and am quite impressed. I thought the smallish >>>>>>>>> viewfinder >>>>>>>>> magnification (supposedly .75x) might be a hinderance, but I >>>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>>> that, so far, the viewfinder is not all that bad. In fact, it >>>>>>>>> seems >>>>>>>>> as if may be even a tad better than my ZX-M's finder, which is >>>>>>>>> supposedly 0.77x. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The N80 is loaded with functionality, and I find that, with the >>>>>>>>> MB-16 >>>>>>>>> pack attached, it has good balance and a comfortable feel in my >>>>>>>>> hand. I had the D40 and K100D in my hand yesterday, and I >>>>>>>>> thought >>>>>>>>> both bodies were a bit thick for my hand. The K100D's body >>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>> bit >>>>>>>>> thinner, and thus it felt a little better, but the N80 is just >>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>> perfect for my somewhat small hand. Perhaps this is how all >>>>>>>>> digital >>>>>>>>> bodies tend to be (a bit thick)? When comparing the feel of >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> ZX-M >>>>>>>>> and N80 to the digital bodies I have mentioned, it is >>>>>>>>> similar to >>>>>>>>> holding a baseball as opposed to a softball. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Glen >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly >>>>>>>> above >>>>>>>> and follow the directions. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>>>>> and follow the directions. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>>> and follow the directions. >>> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and follow the directions. > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
