I read somewhere that the F100, under certain conditions, will lapse into self-timer mode. Is this true? Have you experienced this?
Thanks again, Glen On Sep 28, 2007, at 11:07 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > My (used) F100 came in essentially the same condition, although the > warning card had been removed (And placed in the box). And I was > the 3rd > owner. But it was in KEH LN shape when I got it (And I payed LN prices > for it, $450CDN with LN grip, in box) > > -Adam > > > Glen Tortorella wrote: >> Yes, it appears to be NOS. It came with everything--from warranty >> card to plastic wrappings...even the little warning card (in >> reference to the screen) that is placed inside the door. I am glad >> to have found an N80 in such pristine shape. >> >> Glen >> >> On Sep 28, 2007, at 9:54 PM, Adam Maas wrote: >> >>> Somebody was dumping NOS then, MSRP on the N80 alone was twice that >>> (the >>> F100 was a $1200+ body new). The only Nikon film cameras >>> available new >>> now are the F6 and (cosina-built) FM10, and the latter is only >>> new as >>> Nikon knows the day after they discontinue it the Bessaflex F >>> will be >>> announced. >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> >>> Glen Tortorella wrote: >>>> True, but I purchased a brand new N80 and MB-16 for the price I >>>> indicated--with box, manual, etc.--and the price also included >>>> shipping. Whenever I could, I tend to prefer buying new. >>>> >>>> Glen >>>> >>>> On Sep 28, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Adam Maas wrote: >>>> >>>>> Glen, >>>>> >>>>> An extra $90 would have gotten you into the F100 from KEH ($265 in >>>>> BGN condition) ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Note the F100 uses AA's even without the grip (Unlike th N80, the >>>>> AA's and slightly better handling are the sole reasons to get an >>>>> MB-16. The F100's MB-15 grip increases FPS to 5 from 4.5 and >>>>> offers >>>>> a rear control dial, shutter release and AF-On button, it takes 6 >>>>> AA's or a dedicated rechargable pack vs the 4 AA's that the body's >>>>> AA carrier takes). >>>>> >>>>> -Adam >>>>> >>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote: >>>>>> Thank you for the detailed commentary, Adam. >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow, the N80 "feels like flimsy plastic" compared to the F100. >>>>>> Since >>>>>> I have gotten the N80, I have been thinking that it makes my ZX-M >>>>>> feel like flimsy plastic--a scant 320 grams vs. 515 for the >>>>>> N80. I >>>>>> am sure that the F100 is quite a nice body, and, if I had the >>>>>> funds, >>>>>> I might try one. Considering the deal I got on the N80 ($175 for >>>>>> body and MB-16 pack...which seems unimaginable to me in view >>>>>> of the >>>>>> N80's functionality, etc.), though, it makes it seem almost >>>>>> senseless >>>>>> to think about the F100...but I am the type that would think >>>>>> about >>>>>> it, anyway :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Glen >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 28, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Adam Maas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It's quite noticably larger, especially with the vertical grip >>>>>>> (It's actually a bit larger than an F5 with the grip attached). >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> F100 is notably heavier, much more solid feeling (it makes >>>>>>> the N80 >>>>>>> feel like flimsy plastic). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The F100's dimensions are: 155 x 113 x 66mm and it weighs 785g. >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> F80/N80's dimensions are:141.5 x 98.5 x 71mm and it weighs 515g. >>>>>>> That's a fairly significant difference. Note the F80 is plastic >>>>>>> over metal frame, while the F100 is a full metal body with >>>>>>> rubberized grips. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The viewfinder is also significant, with the F80 having 92% >>>>>>> coverage at .71-.75x magnification (depending on diopter >>>>>>> settings) >>>>>>> with an early-generation LCD overlay (which dims the finder, >>>>>>> especially when the camera is off). The F100's finder has 96% >>>>>>> coverage at .76x without the LCD overlay (Note Nikon has >>>>>>> seriously >>>>>>> improved the LCD overlays, with the newest generation costing >>>>>>> almost no brightness when the camera is turned on, the F80 >>>>>>> was the >>>>>>> first camera to use this technology and it did not have the same >>>>>>> performance). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You'd really need to use the F100 to appreciate it. It's not a >>>>>>> small camera, but it is simply one of the best handling AF >>>>>>> cameras >>>>>>> ever. And it delivers incredible performance in a small package >>>>>>> (To >>>>>>> get similar performance from most other cameras would require a >>>>>>> large battery grip) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Adam >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote: >>>>>>>> I was not aware of the fact that the F100 body is larger than >>>>>>>> the N80 >>>>>>>> body. I am glad, then, that I opted for the N80. How much >>>>>>>> larger is >>>>>>>> the F100, as I have not completely ruled out that body (in >>>>>>>> terms >>>>>>>> of a >>>>>>>> possible future purchase)? Does it feel significantly larger? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Glen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 28, 2007, at 1:27 PM, Adam Maas wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Glen, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I dislike the N80 finder, however I've been spoiled by the >>>>>>>>> excellent finders in Nikon's higher-end bodies (as well as >>>>>>>>> the LX >>>>>>>>> and MX). The N80 finder will compare well to the very similar >>>>>>>>> finders in Pentax's consumer bodies. I also find the body >>>>>>>>> to be >>>>>>>>> too >>>>>>>>> small, but I'm used to the larger F100, F2, F3 and my >>>>>>>>> Mamiya 645 >>>>>>>>> kit. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And yes, Digitals tend to be a bit thicker, they need the >>>>>>>>> extra >>>>>>>>> thickness for the LCD, main circuit board and sensor. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -Adam >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Adam: I do not know if you were able to read a post I wrote a >>>>>>>>>> couple >>>>>>>>>> of days ago regarding my N80 body purchase, but, anyway, I >>>>>>>>>> received >>>>>>>>>> the body and am quite impressed. I thought the smallish >>>>>>>>>> viewfinder >>>>>>>>>> magnification (supposedly .75x) might be a hinderance, but I >>>>>>>>>> find >>>>>>>>>> that, so far, the viewfinder is not all that bad. In >>>>>>>>>> fact, it >>>>>>>>>> seems >>>>>>>>>> as if may be even a tad better than my ZX-M's finder, >>>>>>>>>> which is >>>>>>>>>> supposedly 0.77x. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The N80 is loaded with functionality, and I find that, >>>>>>>>>> with the >>>>>>>>>> MB-16 >>>>>>>>>> pack attached, it has good balance and a comfortable feel >>>>>>>>>> in my >>>>>>>>>> hand. I had the D40 and K100D in my hand yesterday, and I >>>>>>>>>> thought >>>>>>>>>> both bodies were a bit thick for my hand. The K100D's body >>>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>> bit >>>>>>>>>> thinner, and thus it felt a little better, but the N80 is >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>> perfect for my somewhat small hand. Perhaps this is how all >>>>>>>>>> digital >>>>>>>>>> bodies tend to be (a bit thick)? When comparing the feel of >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> ZX-M >>>>>>>>>> and N80 to the digital bodies I have mentioned, it is >>>>>>>>>> similar to >>>>>>>>>> holding a baseball as opposed to a softball. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Glen >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly >>>>>>>>> above >>>>>>>>> and follow the directions. >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly >>>>>>> above >>>>>>> and follow the directions. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>>>> and follow the directions. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>> and follow the directions. >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above > and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
