Somebody was dumping NOS then, MSRP on the N80 alone was twice that (the F100 was a $1200+ body new). The only Nikon film cameras available new now are the F6 and (cosina-built) FM10, and the latter is only new as Nikon knows the day after they discontinue it the Bessaflex F will be announced.
-Adam Glen Tortorella wrote: > True, but I purchased a brand new N80 and MB-16 for the price I > indicated--with box, manual, etc.--and the price also included > shipping. Whenever I could, I tend to prefer buying new. > > Glen > > On Sep 28, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Adam Maas wrote: > >> Glen, >> >> An extra $90 would have gotten you into the F100 from KEH ($265 in >> BGN condition) ;-) >> >> Note the F100 uses AA's even without the grip (Unlike th N80, the >> AA's and slightly better handling are the sole reasons to get an >> MB-16. The F100's MB-15 grip increases FPS to 5 from 4.5 and offers >> a rear control dial, shutter release and AF-On button, it takes 6 >> AA's or a dedicated rechargable pack vs the 4 AA's that the body's >> AA carrier takes). >> >> -Adam >> >> Glen Tortorella wrote: >>> Thank you for the detailed commentary, Adam. >>> >>> Wow, the N80 "feels like flimsy plastic" compared to the F100. Since >>> I have gotten the N80, I have been thinking that it makes my ZX-M >>> feel like flimsy plastic--a scant 320 grams vs. 515 for the N80. I >>> am sure that the F100 is quite a nice body, and, if I had the funds, >>> I might try one. Considering the deal I got on the N80 ($175 for >>> body and MB-16 pack...which seems unimaginable to me in view of the >>> N80's functionality, etc.), though, it makes it seem almost senseless >>> to think about the F100...but I am the type that would think about >>> it, anyway :-) >>> >>> Glen >>> >>> On Sep 28, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Adam Maas wrote: >>> >>>> It's quite noticably larger, especially with the vertical grip >>>> (It's actually a bit larger than an F5 with the grip attached). The >>>> F100 is notably heavier, much more solid feeling (it makes the N80 >>>> feel like flimsy plastic). >>>> >>>> The F100's dimensions are: 155 x 113 x 66mm and it weighs 785g. The >>>> F80/N80's dimensions are:141.5 x 98.5 x 71mm and it weighs 515g. >>>> That's a fairly significant difference. Note the F80 is plastic >>>> over metal frame, while the F100 is a full metal body with >>>> rubberized grips. >>>> >>>> The viewfinder is also significant, with the F80 having 92% >>>> coverage at .71-.75x magnification (depending on diopter settings) >>>> with an early-generation LCD overlay (which dims the finder, >>>> especially when the camera is off). The F100's finder has 96% >>>> coverage at .76x without the LCD overlay (Note Nikon has seriously >>>> improved the LCD overlays, with the newest generation costing >>>> almost no brightness when the camera is turned on, the F80 was the >>>> first camera to use this technology and it did not have the same >>>> performance). >>>> >>>> You'd really need to use the F100 to appreciate it. It's not a >>>> small camera, but it is simply one of the best handling AF cameras >>>> ever. And it delivers incredible performance in a small package (To >>>> get similar performance from most other cameras would require a >>>> large battery grip) >>>> >>>> -Adam >>>> >>>> >>>> Glen Tortorella wrote: >>>>> I was not aware of the fact that the F100 body is larger than >>>>> the N80 >>>>> body. I am glad, then, that I opted for the N80. How much >>>>> larger is >>>>> the F100, as I have not completely ruled out that body (in terms >>>>> of a >>>>> possible future purchase)? Does it feel significantly larger? >>>>> >>>>> Glen >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 28, 2007, at 1:27 PM, Adam Maas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Glen, >>>>>> >>>>>> I dislike the N80 finder, however I've been spoiled by the >>>>>> excellent finders in Nikon's higher-end bodies (as well as the LX >>>>>> and MX). The N80 finder will compare well to the very similar >>>>>> finders in Pentax's consumer bodies. I also find the body to be >>>>>> too >>>>>> small, but I'm used to the larger F100, F2, F3 and my Mamiya 645 >>>>>> kit. >>>>>> >>>>>> And yes, Digitals tend to be a bit thicker, they need the extra >>>>>> thickness for the LCD, main circuit board and sensor. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Adam >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Glen Tortorella wrote: >>>>>>> Adam: I do not know if you were able to read a post I wrote a >>>>>>> couple >>>>>>> of days ago regarding my N80 body purchase, but, anyway, I >>>>>>> received >>>>>>> the body and am quite impressed. I thought the smallish >>>>>>> viewfinder >>>>>>> magnification (supposedly .75x) might be a hinderance, but I find >>>>>>> that, so far, the viewfinder is not all that bad. In fact, it >>>>>>> seems >>>>>>> as if may be even a tad better than my ZX-M's finder, which is >>>>>>> supposedly 0.77x. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The N80 is loaded with functionality, and I find that, with the >>>>>>> MB-16 >>>>>>> pack attached, it has good balance and a comfortable feel in my >>>>>>> hand. I had the D40 and K100D in my hand yesterday, and I >>>>>>> thought >>>>>>> both bodies were a bit thick for my hand. The K100D's body is a >>>>>>> bit >>>>>>> thinner, and thus it felt a little better, but the N80 is just >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> perfect for my somewhat small hand. Perhaps this is how all >>>>>>> digital >>>>>>> bodies tend to be (a bit thick)? When comparing the feel of the >>>>>>> ZX-M >>>>>>> and N80 to the digital bodies I have mentioned, it is similar to >>>>>>> holding a baseball as opposed to a softball. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Glen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>>>>> and follow the directions. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>>> and follow the directions. >>> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >> and follow the directions. > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
