The K10D has better noise control at 1600 than does the D at 3200. In fact, it's a close call with both at 1600. The K10D does seem to be a bit more sensitive to noise increase due to underexposure. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I don't have a K10 to do comparisons with, but everything I've seen on > this list indicates that the *ist-D/Ds have better noise performance at > 3200 than the K10D has at 1600. What is the major difference, the size > of the sensor sites. Even at 12mp a 1.3x crop sensor will have sites > larger than the K10D and as large or larger than those on the *ist D/Ds. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Yes, the larger sensor would undoubtedly reduce noise somewhat, but I doubt > that it could achieve the noise level the K10D at 800 when shooting at 3200 > -- > as asked for in this wish list. > > Paul > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> Just the 1.3x crop sensor would lead to better noise/high ISO performance. > >> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >>> Good list. I concur. Although I've never had a problem with banding with > >>> the > >>> > >> K10D. Also, the K10D already has a spot to store the IR remote in the > >> battery > >> grip. I don't think you'd want to make the camera itself larger to > accommodate > >> this. But for those of us who have know problem with size and therefore > >> use > the > >> grip, the remote caddy is a great feature. I don't know if the kind of > >> high > ISO > >> low-noise performance you're asking for is currently possible, but it > certainly > >> wold be nice. I think there's always going to be a considerable tradeofff > >> for > >> ISO 3200 speed. CMOS sensors don't seem to have much of a real advantage > there. > >> > >>> Paul > >>> -------------- Original message ---------------------- > >>> From: "Patrick Genovese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > >>> > >>>> My wish list: > >>>> > >>>> 1. Faster and more accurate AF (I know it is a contradiction in terms > >>>> but we know it is possible err. dark side) > >>>> 2. Adjustable AF settings ( a user should be able to correct > >>>> back/front focusing) > >>>> 3. Larger sensor (1.3 crop factor) but only if current DA lenses cover > >>>> the 1.3 crop factor. The reason for this is the physics... larger > >>>> pixels => lower noise. > >>>> 4. faster frame rate.... 5 to 8 fps and the frame rate should be > >>>> adjustable. ie low,,, 3, med 5, high 8. 8 May be overkill (at least > >>>> for me) but it would be nice to have at least 5fps. > >>>> 5. Quieter operation over all --- Quiter af motors quieter shutter / > >>>> mirror mechanism. > >>>> 6. Higher eyepoint on the viewfider... but don;t mess up the > >>>> viewfinder the k10 finder is too nice to muck up. > >>>> 7. Smarter AF modes... e.g nearest subject, track moving subject > >>>> etc... Nikon have someting of the sort and it really works well. > >>>> 8. A good anti reflective system for the screen that will allow better > >>>> viewing under bright sunlight > >>>> 9. Lower noise and higher iso... up to at least 3200.. I want iso3200 > >>>> with the sort of noise we currently get at around 640 -> 800. A Cmos > >>>> sensor may be the way to go in this respect. > >>>> 10 DNG with compression out of the camera. > >>>> 11. Dual Card Slots (SD) with the ability to write Raw on one and jpeg > >>>> on the other. > >>>> 12. Buttons for WB & ISO.... ie hold a button down and turn a control > wheel. > >>>> 13. WB Setting display in viewfinder. > >>>> 14. Better Write speeds to cards. > >>>> 15. Separate AF Assist Lamp. (ie no need to popup flash) > >>>> 16. Intervalometer accessible throught the menu. (IE TS110 cable > >>>> release functions built into the firmware). This should be easy. > >>>> 17. Bundled IR Remote with a gizmo to keep it permanently attached in > >>>> some way e.g. to the camera strap or the base of the camera. > >>>> 18. Higher res 12->16mp but not at the expense of adding noise 10MP is > >>>> fine for me. > >>>> 19. Addon for wireless transfer to PC > >>>> 20. REMOVE ALL TRACES OF BANDING.... .... NOISE IS ACCEPTABLE BANDING > >>>> IS > >>>> > >> NOT. > >> > >>>> 21. An updated lens line up .... Fast primes and fast zooms. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> -- > >> All dogs have four legs; my cat has four legs. Therefore, my cat is a dog. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > >> [email protected] > >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > All dogs have four legs; my cat has four legs. Therefore, my cat is a dog. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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