Oh I get it. I'm shooting my old lenses on my new digital camera. I get it perfectly. On 8-Oct-06, at 8:05 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote:
> Wrong, you simply do not understand the situation. Its a > Totally different story. Canon went to a new mount for TECHNICAL > IMPROVEMENTS. Pentax has not gone to a new mount at all for any > technical > Gain. Its pure LOSS. No progress. Get it? We didn't give up something > To get something in exchange, we just lost features of damn nice lenses > For ZERO technical reason or improvement. > JCO > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Vic MacBournie > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 7:50 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? > > JCO: In the ideal world I could still buy parts for my beloved Datsun > 240Z but hey, times change. If Pentax put out a camera that worked with > our old lenses they would never sell their new lenses. That would make > you and I happy but only for a year or two. When Pentax announced it > went out of business because nobody was buying their lenses neither you > nor I would be very happy - Think Minolta users. Life's a compromise > and I think you and I did a lot better than those Canon users who had > to trade in those gorgeous F1s for an EOS and $50,000 worth of new > lenses... > Vic > On 8-Oct-06, at 7:37 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > >> Not sure what you mean by "leaving behind 30 yr old technology"? >> They are not moving forward, they are moving backward if >> Lenses are LOSING key features they have already had for >> 30 years. This isnt a case where progress necessitated >> this, like a new mount, this is a case of plain out abandonment >> of millions of PENTAX brand K lenses features. Would you buy a film >> body without these longtime features? I wouldn't. >> jco >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of >> Vic MacBournie >> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 7:28 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? >> >> I kind of enjoy JCO's arguments... I like to see the different angles >> he takes to respond to the various posts. I think he's just trying to >> make a point that he's not happy with the way pentax has moved forward >> leaving behind 30-year-old technology die-hards like him and I to cry >> in our beer about the good old days when little steel things protruded >> from the lenses. i agree wholeheartedly with him but have chosen to >> enjoy what compatibility that is still left. Every time I think about >> selling my old lenses I put them on my ist D and that ends that >> idea.... I like to think of all my old lenses like limited lenses. > When >> I pack my bag full of Ks and Ms and As it's like having a whole camera >> bag of limited lenses without the autofocus.... LOL.... >> Vic >> >> >> >> On 8-Oct-06, at 7:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> >>> Hello David, >>> >>> Add a filter to your email application to just put JCO's ranting in >>> the trash automatically. I turn on that filter every time he starts >>> in on this nonsense. As John Forbes said, it happens about every six >>> months. >>> >>> Others have answered the question, but here's the scoop: >>> >>> To use pre-A series M/K-mount lenses, or any A series or later lens >>> with the lens taken off the A setting, you >>> >>> 0) Set the custom function to "Using Aperture Ring - Permitted" >>> >>> This tells the camera to operate the aperture mechanism in K mount >>> mode when the camera mode selector is set to Manual. Since the camera >>> does not have the mechanical aperture simulator, when you fit a lens >>> as above you >>> >>> 1) set the mode selector to Manual >>> 2) set the aperture you want to use with the lens' aperture ring >>> 3) be sure the meter is activated (a half press on the shutter button >>> activates the meter circuitry) >>> 4) press the green button /AE-Lock button >>> >>> The camera will stop down the lens briefly, take a reading, and set >>> the appropriate shutter speed. This is not auto exposure, to my way >>> of thinking, but semi-automatic exposure operation. It is simple and >>> fluid in use, although I'm the first to say that I don't like mixing >>> post-A and pre-A series lenses much because having to switch modes on >>> the camera and modes of thought in use can lead to errors. >>> >>> I am pretty sure we'll never see another Pentax with the mechanical >>> aperture simulator, but I'd be happy to be wrong on that count. Don't >>> hold your breath for it. ;-) >>> >>> Godfrey >>> >>> On Oct 8, 2006, at 9:44 PM, David Bliss wrote: >>> >>>> I guess the question I REALLY meant to ask was: what, if anything, >>>> does >>>> dpreview's assertion that you can "use lens aperture ring" mean, >>>> since it clearly doesn't mean what I think it means? Even on A >>>> lenses, >>>> I for one would much rather set the aperture using the lens >>>> aperture ring, >>>> with a nice big custom-designed control, than use a stupid fiddly >>>> knob on >>>> the camera body -- just like when doing manual focus I want to use >> the >>>> lens focus control and not twiddle a potentiometer like on one of >>>> my old >>>> Sony cameras (and most non-pro video cameras). >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
