Wrong, you simply do not understand the situation. Its a Totally different story. Canon went to a new mount for TECHNICAL IMPROVEMENTS. Pentax has not gone to a new mount at all for any technical Gain. Its pure LOSS. No progress. Get it? We didn't give up something To get something in exchange, we just lost features of damn nice lenses For ZERO technical reason or improvement. JCO
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vic MacBournie Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 7:50 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? JCO: In the ideal world I could still buy parts for my beloved Datsun 240Z but hey, times change. If Pentax put out a camera that worked with our old lenses they would never sell their new lenses. That would make you and I happy but only for a year or two. When Pentax announced it went out of business because nobody was buying their lenses neither you nor I would be very happy - Think Minolta users. Life's a compromise and I think you and I did a lot better than those Canon users who had to trade in those gorgeous F1s for an EOS and $50,000 worth of new lenses... Vic On 8-Oct-06, at 7:37 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > Not sure what you mean by "leaving behind 30 yr old technology"? > They are not moving forward, they are moving backward if > Lenses are LOSING key features they have already had for > 30 years. This isnt a case where progress necessitated > this, like a new mount, this is a case of plain out abandonment > of millions of PENTAX brand K lenses features. Would you buy a film > body without these longtime features? I wouldn't. > jco > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Vic MacBournie > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 7:28 PM > To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List > Subject: Re: k10d and manual-aperture lenses? > > I kind of enjoy JCO's arguments... I like to see the different angles > he takes to respond to the various posts. I think he's just trying to > make a point that he's not happy with the way pentax has moved forward > leaving behind 30-year-old technology die-hards like him and I to cry > in our beer about the good old days when little steel things protruded > from the lenses. i agree wholeheartedly with him but have chosen to > enjoy what compatibility that is still left. Every time I think about > selling my old lenses I put them on my ist D and that ends that > idea.... I like to think of all my old lenses like limited lenses. When > I pack my bag full of Ks and Ms and As it's like having a whole camera > bag of limited lenses without the autofocus.... LOL.... > Vic > > > > On 8-Oct-06, at 7:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > >> Hello David, >> >> Add a filter to your email application to just put JCO's ranting in >> the trash automatically. I turn on that filter every time he starts >> in on this nonsense. As John Forbes said, it happens about every six >> months. >> >> Others have answered the question, but here's the scoop: >> >> To use pre-A series M/K-mount lenses, or any A series or later lens >> with the lens taken off the A setting, you >> >> 0) Set the custom function to "Using Aperture Ring - Permitted" >> >> This tells the camera to operate the aperture mechanism in K mount >> mode when the camera mode selector is set to Manual. Since the camera >> does not have the mechanical aperture simulator, when you fit a lens >> as above you >> >> 1) set the mode selector to Manual >> 2) set the aperture you want to use with the lens' aperture ring >> 3) be sure the meter is activated (a half press on the shutter button >> activates the meter circuitry) >> 4) press the green button /AE-Lock button >> >> The camera will stop down the lens briefly, take a reading, and set >> the appropriate shutter speed. This is not auto exposure, to my way >> of thinking, but semi-automatic exposure operation. It is simple and >> fluid in use, although I'm the first to say that I don't like mixing >> post-A and pre-A series lenses much because having to switch modes on >> the camera and modes of thought in use can lead to errors. >> >> I am pretty sure we'll never see another Pentax with the mechanical >> aperture simulator, but I'd be happy to be wrong on that count. Don't >> hold your breath for it. ;-) >> >> Godfrey >> >> On Oct 8, 2006, at 9:44 PM, David Bliss wrote: >> >>> I guess the question I REALLY meant to ask was: what, if anything, >>> does >>> dpreview's assertion that you can "use lens aperture ring" mean, >>> since it clearly doesn't mean what I think it means? Even on A >>> lenses, >>> I for one would much rather set the aperture using the lens >>> aperture ring, >>> with a nice big custom-designed control, than use a stupid fiddly >>> knob on >>> the camera body -- just like when doing manual focus I want to use > the >>> lens focus control and not twiddle a potentiometer like on one of >>> my old >>> Sony cameras (and most non-pro video cameras). >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
