I kind of enjoy JCO's arguments... I like to see the different angles 
he takes to respond to the various posts. I think he's just trying to 
make a point that he's not happy with the way pentax has moved forward 
leaving behind 30-year-old technology die-hards like him and I to cry 
in our beer about the good old days when little steel things protruded 
from the lenses. i agree wholeheartedly with him but have chosen to 
enjoy what compatibility that is still left. Every time I think about 
selling my old lenses I put them on my ist D and that ends that 
idea.... I like to think of all my old lenses like limited lenses. When 
I pack my bag full of Ks and Ms and As it's like having a whole camera 
bag of limited lenses without the autofocus.... LOL....
Vic



On 8-Oct-06, at 7:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> Hello David,
>
> Add a filter to your email application to just put JCO's ranting in
> the trash automatically. I turn on that filter every time he starts
> in on this nonsense. As John Forbes said, it happens about every six
> months.
>
> Others have answered the question, but here's the scoop:
>
> To use pre-A series M/K-mount lenses, or any A series or later lens
> with the lens taken off the A setting, you
>
> 0) Set the custom function to "Using Aperture Ring - Permitted"
>
> This tells the camera to operate the aperture mechanism in K mount
> mode when the camera mode selector is set to Manual. Since the camera
> does not have the mechanical aperture simulator, when you fit a lens
> as above you
>
> 1) set the mode selector to Manual
> 2) set the aperture you want to use with the lens' aperture ring
> 3) be sure the meter is activated (a half press on the shutter button
> activates the meter circuitry)
> 4) press the green button /AE-Lock button
>
> The camera will stop down the lens briefly, take a reading, and set
> the appropriate shutter speed. This is not auto exposure, to my way
> of thinking, but semi-automatic exposure operation. It is simple and
> fluid in use, although I'm the first to say that I don't like mixing
> post-A and pre-A series lenses much because having to switch modes on
> the camera and modes of thought in use can lead to errors.
>
> I am pretty sure we'll never see another Pentax with the mechanical
> aperture simulator, but I'd be happy to be wrong on that count. Don't
> hold your breath for it. ;-)
>
> Godfrey
>
> On Oct 8, 2006, at 9:44 PM, David Bliss wrote:
>
>> I guess the question I REALLY meant to ask was: what, if anything,
>> does
>> dpreview's assertion that you can "use lens aperture ring" mean,
>> since it clearly doesn't mean what I think it means?  Even on A
>> lenses,
>> I for one would much rather set the aperture using the lens
>> aperture ring,
>> with a nice big custom-designed control, than use a stupid fiddly
>> knob on
>> the camera body -- just like when doing manual focus I want to use the
>> lens focus control and not twiddle a potentiometer like on one of
>> my old
>> Sony cameras (and most non-pro video cameras).
>
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