Hi Annie & Gretta, yes, you're both bringing up something that has been at the forefront of mine & Ruth's, discussions, intentions, and actions -- for a while now. Hence, why Furtherfield exists in the first place...
I found this a really interestinig comment, recently, by Jon Ippolito. "The mainstream art world waited to utter the term "Internet art" until they could safely add the prefix "post-" to it" Jon Ippolito What Ippolito said is rather poignant, because it demonstrates a shift where ownership of an artistic practice has 'officially' been acknowledged as part of the mainstream, but only so that all the typical top-down defaults of the mainstream can take it apart and force it to reflect its own intentions and belief systems -- as in, take full control of its once grass roots identity, and own its history and future; and turn it all into its own pliable set of products. Wishing you well. marc On 12 December 2016 at 09:24, Annie Abrahams <[email protected]> wrote: > yes Gretta, that's it > > when reading Ruth's reaction I immediately became aware that my phrase > wasn't ok. of course we can continue the spirit, there is no impossibility. > I wanted to point to http://networkcultures.org/ > moneylab/2016/12/06/role-play-your-way-to-budgetary-blockchain-bliss/ > where you can read about Ruth's workshop for Moneylab, as an example and of > course I thought about my own work where learning what it means to "be > with" is more important than what is actually happening, where the process > is more important than the result. I think the same is true for for > instance Helen Varley Jamieson's "we have a situation", and of course there > is more. > > netart : we discussed possibilities and impossibilities - as usual we > complained, were nostalgic - net art is changing, the internet is not what > it was etc. but I also learned that Ubermorgen (Hans and Liz) became > professors in netart at a German artschool > netart became a construct, starts to become historical > so what to complain? > let's continue the spirit > > xxx Annie > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Gretta Louw <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I’ve been thinking a lot lately about how often the art, the >> revolutionary, meaningful kind, at the moment is truly in creating >> structures and platforms for ideas and people to engage. What comes out at >> the end - the video/prints etc that funders want to see or that gets posted >> to instagram - is not really the important part, at that point the art >> itself has already happened. And this making of structures and platforms is >> still greatly assisted by networked technologies. >> >> g. >> >> >> On 11 Dec 2016, at 12:26 PM, ruth catlow <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> <icihmpcmbmacmnch.png> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Co-founder Co-director >> Furtherfield >> >> www.furtherfield.org >> >> +44 (0) 77370 02879 >> >> Bitcoin Address 197BBaXa6M9PtHhhNTQkuHh1pVJA8RrJ2i >> >> Furtherfield is the UK's leading organisation for art shows, labs, & >> debates >> around critical questions in art and technology, since 1997 >> >> Furtherfield is a Not-for-Profit Company limited by Guarantee >> registered in England and Wales under the Company No.7005205. >> Registered business address: Ballard Newman, Apex House, Grand Arcade, >> Tally Ho Corner, London N12 0EH. >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> > > > > -- > Distant FeelingS #3 <http://bram.org/distantF> Thursday 24 Nov. 6.30pm, > *VisionS > in the Nunnery*, 181 Bow Road, London E3 2SJ and *online*. > With *Lisa Parra*,* Daniel Pinheiro* and *Annie Abrahams*. > > *How does it feel to share an interface with eyes closed and no talking?* > http://bram.org > https://aabrahams.wordpress.com > http://e-stranger.tumblr.com > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > -- -- Marc Garrett Co-Founder, Co-Director and main editor of Furtherfield. Furtherfield - A living, breathing, thriving network http://www.furtherfield.org - for art, technology and social change since 1996 Furtherfield Gallery & Commons, Finsbury Park, London N4 2NQ T +44(0)208 802 1301/+44(0)208 802 2827 M +44(0)7533676047 www.furtherfield.org Academic Work for PhD At Birkbeck https://birkbeck.academia.edu/MarcGarrett <http://www.furtherfield.org>
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