yes Gretta, that's it

when reading Ruth's reaction I immediately became aware that my phrase
wasn't ok. of course we can continue the spirit, there is no impossibility.
I wanted to point to
http://networkcultures.org/moneylab/2016/12/06/role-play-your-way-to-budgetary-blockchain-bliss/
where you can read about Ruth's workshop for Moneylab, as an example and of
course I thought about my own work where learning what it means to "be
with" is more important than what is actually happening, where the process
is more important than the result. I think the same is true for for
instance Helen Varley Jamieson's "we have a situation", and of course there
is more.

netart : we discussed possibilities and impossibilities - as usual we
complained, were nostalgic - net art is changing, the internet is not what
it was etc. but I also learned that Ubermorgen (Hans and Liz) became
professors in netart at a German artschool
netart became a construct, starts to become historical
so what to complain?
let's continue the spirit

xxx Annie

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Gretta Louw <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I’ve been thinking a lot lately about how often the art, the
> revolutionary, meaningful kind, at the moment is truly in creating
> structures and platforms for ideas and people to engage. What comes out at
> the end - the video/prints etc that funders want to see or that gets posted
> to instagram - is not really the important part, at that point the art
> itself has already happened. And this making of structures and platforms is
> still greatly assisted by networked technologies.
>
> g.
>
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