Hi all,
regarding the code is fine for us using ca-XR for Valencian (RACV), we will wait until you give us access to our Pootle files. Please create a Pootle account for us. I state that my contributions are under the Apache 2 license and I will work on ca-XR. My preferred username is Masoret.

Pau, nice to see you here. I hope you continue the AVL translation.

Best wishes,
Vicent

On 21/04/2014 14:55, Pau Iranzo wrote:
Hi Alexandro,

Just for your information, after Ubuntu switched to LibreOffice, the
Valencian Government started using the LibreOffice ca-valencia translation
we're responsible for. At the moment, there was a big issue related to the
name to be used for the language. Happily, this is not an issue anymore.

Regards,
Pau


2014-04-21 14:23 GMT+02:00 Alexandro Colorado<[email protected]>:

I was previously involved with the ca-XV and the Valencian government
to push the valencian l10n code for it.

I remember this process was initially approved, but later decided not
to go forward by the GVA.

Althought there isn't really much I would like to add to the process
at this time, just want to offer any help on the future.

On 4/21/14, Pau Iranzo<[email protected]>  wrote:
Hi,

My name is Pau Iranzo and I've been the maintainer of the ca-XV
translation
until the last version of OOO before it became AOO. I've been following
the
discussion and I just wanted to mention that I agree on the proposed
solution: keeping ca-XV for AVL and find a different code for the RACV
version (ca-XR?).

Regarding working in pootle please create a Pootle account for me. I
state
that my contributions are under  the Apache 2 license and I will work on
both ca and ca-XV translations. My preferred username is PauGNU.

Thanks,
Pau





2014-04-21 0:05 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti<[email protected]>:

On 20/04/2014 Software Valencià wrote:

we would like to be supported by OpenOffice so we could save a lot of
work.

No problem! Once we get the things set up (warning: this may take a
while,
we are about to release version 4.1 -end of April- and we won't do
Pootle
updates before release) you will only have to translate, and we'll
happily
do the rest.


  Valencian language have to rules (AVL and RACV) as other languages like
Norwegian, Galician, Serbian... To prevent misunderstandings by users
we
suggest you to tag our translation as "Valencian (RACV)" so if other
team want to translate "Valencian (AVL)" they can do it. We will use
"ca-XV" code if it's free, or other like that.

Thanks for this information. I got some further details and indeed I was
wrong (sorry, I didn't know about the two variants of Valencian).

We have technical limitations that make it necessary to use a kludge
since
we can't support BCP-47 tags (so to use an example you mentioned: we use
"sh" and "sr" for the two variant of Serbian, and they are both wrong,
but
we must live with it).

The current ca-XV is the AVL variant. So, even though it is not
maintained
at the moment (but it may change soon), we must keep ca-XV for AVL. It's
an
unofficial code anyway.

Can we settle on ca-XR for the "Valencian RACV" translation? I'm totally
inventing it, so stop me if it's crazy. Basically, the logic is that due
to
technical constraints we have to use "ca-" to identify the main ISO
language group, "X" to mean that it is our extension, "R" is randomly
chosen by me to denote "RACV" and can be changed into anything else if
you
prefer.

This way we keep ca-XV open for AVL and ca-XR (or whatever) for RACV and
you can work in parallel. If this can help you, we can initialize ca-XR
with the files we have now for ca-XV, even though I assume you will have
to
adapt a lot of strings (but it may still be useful as a reference).


  So, can we start to work to be part of next Apache OpenOffice's
release?
Let's agree on these details while we finalize the 4.1 release. Then
we'll
update Pootle as soon as possible and all teams can start working again.


Regards,
   Andrea.

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