On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 1:18 PM, J. Roeleveld <jo...@antarean.org> wrote: > On 11 May 2015 15:59:40 CEST, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:37 AM, C Bergström <cbergst...@pathscale.com> >>wrote: >>> Sorry to shoot and run, but I think you're trying to tackle this >>> problem in the wrong way. The problem isn't to drop the mail. The >>> solution is to change email hosting providers. As a non-profit I >>> believe Google hosted apps would be an option (free). >> >>In general we try to stick to our social contract, and that means >>trying to avoid depending on proprietary technologies such as gmail. >> >>Now, I could see just using a FOSS-based IMAP/SMTP/POP provider, >>perhaps which allows things like forwarding and such, which allows us >>to have a copy of all our configuration and such in case we want to >>migrate. I'm not super-familiar with the wordpress.com model but >>something like that also seems reasonable - we leverage donations of >>hosting services but we aren't bound to anything proprietary and have >>the ability to migrate off. >> >>I'd REALLY like to see a FOSS alternative to Gmail (a good one, that >>is), and ditto for Google docs (or whatever the latest branding for >>that is). There is nothing magical about cloud-based services any more >>than there is anything magical about letting somebody else host your >>website. The key is to ensure that the technologies are open so that >>you aren't bound to a single provider. > > Rich, > > If you are thinking of a FOSS email provider. Maybe investigate Fastmail? > > They use postfix and cyrus. And they also handle a lot of the development of > the latter. > > Not sure if they would fit in with the rest, but I would trust them sooner > then Google.
Trust? LOL - If by trust you mean the government can man-in-the-middle attack them easily - then sure.. gmail always uses encryption.. does fastmail force that as well? Google has a much stronger means to push back short term and long term against government spying (snowden). fastmail would have to comply just the same and if you go back in history - you'll see other providers who didn' t comply and the only outcome was for them to go out of business... (happened once?) social contract shouldn't be a religious contract - It's not like I ever suggested we use something which isn't blessed by the pope. I guess I should just be quiet since everyone has their own religion...
