On 03/01/2010 10:40 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
Hi Mark,
That would really be no real world change from how things work today. The fact
is, today, Solr already operates essentially as an independent project.
Well if that's the case, then it would lead me to think that it's more of a
TLP more than anything else per best practices.
That depends. It could be argued it should be a top level project or
that it should be closer to the Lucene project. Some people are arguing
for both approaches right now. There are two directions we could move in.
The only real difference is that it shares the same PMC with Lucene now and
wouldn't with this change. This would address none of the issues that
triggered
the idea for a possible merge.
I don't agree -- you're looking to bring together two communities that are
"fairly separate" as you put it. The separation likely didn't spring up over
night and has been this way for a while (as least to my knowledge). This is
exactly the type of situation that typically leads to TLP creation from what
I've seen.
It also causes negatives between Solr/Lucene that some are looking to
address. Hence the birth of this proposal. Going TLP with Solr will only
aggravate those negatives, not help them.
While the communities operate fairly separately at the moment, the
people in the communities are not so separate. The committer list has
huge overlap. Many committers on one project but not the other do a lot
of work on both projects.
There is already a strong link with the personal - merging the
management of the projects addresses many of the concerns that have
prompted this discussion. TLP'ing Solr only makes those concerns
multiply. They would diverge further, and incompatible overlap between
them would increase.
Cheers,
Chris
On 03/01/2010 10:04 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
Hey Grant,
I¹d like to explore this< does this imply that the Lucene sub-projects will
go away and Lucene will turn into Lucene-java and maintain its Apache TLP,
and then you¹d have say, solr.apache.org, tika.apache.org, mahout.apache.org
(already started), etc. etc.? If so, that may be the best of all worlds,
allowing project independence, but also not following the Apache
"antipattern" as Doug put it...
Cheers,
Chris
On 3/1/10 7:28 AM, "Grant Ingersoll"<[email protected]> wrote:
Also, as Doug alluded to, the Board is likely to ask us to consider less
subprojects in the future, so we may be consolidating and spinning off
anyway.
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Email: [email protected]
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