On 7/8/06, Aitor Santamaría <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Blair,
>
> 2006/7/5, Blair Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Just to let you know, due to lack of bugfixes in the graphical
> > installer, it cannot be included with 1.0, otherwise people would
> > blame us for releasing buggy software.  The text installer works
> > pretty much everywhere and is much more stable.
> >
> > Unless anyone releases a showstopper-fixed graphical installer :-).
> >
> > Aitor: Keyb 2.0 pre4 will be included if you cannot manage to get 2.0
> > released in time (no pressure).
>
> Okay. Frankly, XT support is already there (unsupported). The only
> missing feature would be beeping, but I don't think it is important.
> I'll even decide wether I'll release current one (with small patches)
> as 2.0 final to be launched with FreeDOS 1.0.
> I am a bit worried about DISPLAY, though.
>
> > In FreeCOM world, 0.84pre2 will be used for the testing release; it
> > fully supports long filenames and I don't see any new bugs since
> > 0.84pre1.  If people end up having many problems, I will fall back to
> > 0.84pre1 for 1.0.
>
> I fully agree!
>
> > Michael Devore:  I'm eagerly awaiting that upcoming EMM386 so that it
> > can be included :-).
>
> By the ammount of complains that occur when this very important piece
> of code has any incidence (mostly misconfiguration, as we've seen that
> it's working frankly well), I'd say it is sensible.
>
> > One thing is for sure though, that if 1.0 is a failure, FreeDOS could
> > suffer greatly, so testers are REALLY appreciated.  If we do end up
> > having to postpone the release for one more month due to some
> > showstopping bugs, we will have to let everyone know that because many
> > are awaiting 1.0 eagerly.
>
> I'm willing to test! Under VMWARE I was always stuck with some problem
> the few times I tried: I seem to remember that it was about the drive
> signature or something like that. I'll let you know in case someone
> can reproduce it too.
>
> I am also willing to re-cycle the to-do and post pages. In fact, I
> have already started. Wish there was an easy HTML->Wiki converter out
> there :)
>
> I would like to say a final words about this, also replying to Imre.
> Imre, in no way I did mean to remove the fun of contributing for
> FreeDOS with the TOD-DO list. I did it in a moment in which it gave me
> the impression that the project was a collection of impaired MS-DOS
> compatibility, and on the idea of seeing our distance to a MS-DOS
> distribution (after all, many claims from users are of the like
> "FreeDOS does not do this").
>
> I've personally always been a bit conservative about the 1.0 idea,
> true. Let's face it: whereas our FreeCOM has a lot of new capabilities
> (specially after this new fresh air from Blair!) we do not have a
> SCANDISK (yes, dosfsck etc, but they are completely different tools),
> we still collect claims on the menus not being compatible to FreeDOS
> 1.0, we had a serious collection on bugs on some critical utilities,
> such as FDISK. My fear was to prematurely release FreeDOS 1.0, so that
> some users would get disappointed by some faults that we know to be
> minor (but we don't).
>
> Having said that, I am also greatly concerned about
> (1) the constant leak of developers
> (2) the fact that the project looked a bit stuck
> (3) the negative consequences of the previous too (specially on the
> words by Jim Hall, that I fully understand),
> thus as simply one more of the participants on this forum I'd like to
> gladly participate on the launch of FreeDOS 1.0. I'd say go for it!
>
> As I mentioned, Blair please let me know where I could download the
> test versions. And about re-cycling the to-do pages, I think I'm no
> longer focusing into milestones. I'd rather turn those pages in a new
> reference (I'd love to be a wiki, if I happen to find a good
> HTML->wiki, as I know some HTML but not wiki language at all), with
> three aims:
> - A laboratory of ideas
> - A dictionary of "how to MS-DOS=> FreeDOS"
> - A measurement of the interest of FreeDOS users
>
> I just finish with two questions:
> (a) could someone clarify to me a bit which UDMA/CACHE like tools are
> to be launched with FreeDOS 1.0? (opensourced, obviously)

XDMA/XCDROM will be included, regardless of certain people's problems
with this.  This is great software and deserves to be included.

> (b) how's the release policy going to be? After the freeze by the end
> of july there will be a release, then many testings, then bugfixes...
> how many "pre"s before the final?

There will be one unofficial test release (and several even more
unofficial ones probably), and one final release.
>
> Aitor
>
>
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