Mr. Antos is correct, sir.  It's less than half the going rate of reversal.  
Also, this particular stock doesn't have the backing which makes 
hand-processing arduous (as it's been explained to me).  And ignorance is about 
the most cultivated quality in my work!
Trevor Adams
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I think the appeal is that it’s much cheaper!

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 7:11 PM Francisco Torres 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
pardon my ignorance but I have never understood the use of print stock
as camera original. Would using reversal accomplish similar results?

2019-03-20 12:20 GMT-04:00, MONO NO AWARE 
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> Results from our workshop.   A few water marks, but for their first time in
> the lab processing, to be cross processing and have these results its
> pretty good, could have used a darker orange filter, but it was overcast
> and we couldn't forfeit the light.
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> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 12:13 PM Anna Kipervaser
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>> I am often shooting on 3383; I use an 85 filter (orange to compensate for
>> lack of orange base in the stock and to get near true color) and rate
>> 3383
>> at 3. Then I process in Tetenal E6 in a lomo reel/tank. Recipe below.
>>
>> FD: 100 degrees F, 2:45min
>> H2O: 5min, warm, not warmer than 100 degrees F
>> CD: 100 degrees F, 6min
>> H2O: 5min, warm, not warmer than 100 degrees F
>> BLIX: 100 degrees F, 6min
>> H2O: 10min, cool.
>> Stabilizer out of tank: 30sec
>> Shake reel
>> Hang film to dry
>>
>> Also, Mono No Aware has had successful results with C41.
>>
>> Always,
>>  Anna
>>
>>
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>>> Subject: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?
>>> Hiya one'n all,
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>>> I'm seeking any advice/ tips for shooting on 3383 color vision print
>>> stock, with a bolex.  Everybody I've spoken to says use an ASA of 5, I'm
>>> not sure if i should even take light readings?  Anything would be
>>> helpful...
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>>> 5 seems optimistic.  Shoot a test.
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>>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] tips for shooting on print stock?
>>> I haven't tried print stock, but have played with film I made myself
>>> (handmade emulsion applied to clear leader) and that is also rated at a
>>> 5
>>> (if that).  I would still absolutely take light readings, especially if
>>> you're pointing at the light source, you might be surprised how much
>>> light
>>> it throws off.  Maybe try spot metering instead of ambient.  I find that
>>> helps me "see" the scene the way the film might.
>>> Post your results!  I'd love to see them.
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>>> Nicole Elaine Baker
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>>>> Hiya one'n all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm seeking any advice/ tips for shooting on 3383 color vision print
>>>> stock, with a bolex.  Everybody I've spoken to says use an ASA of 5,
>>>> I'm
>>>> not sure if i should even take light readings?  Anything would be
>>>> helpful...
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