To be fair, I think you've subtly changed "the point" from "Can't make new launchers in IBAR" to "won't make new launchers in IBAR without complaining about it". You *say* you can't use the "menu system" to add an icon to an ibar. But you can alt-right-click ( or right-click the title bar of ) any open window and use the "menu system" to add the current app to your ibar. There is also a menu item that appears in my build titled "+ Contents". That's *TWO* methods which involve menu items which do what you want.
As for documenting this, a) I found this pretty easily by clicking around - which is how I assume most Linux users figure out their desktop environment ( as opposed to reading some documentation - it's really that that hard ), so I'm not totally convinced it needs documenting, and b) please document it. Further, chill. Hissy fit upon hissy fit, from a non-paying user to a mailing list full of volunteers is extremely unbecoming. Dan On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 5:53 AM, Larry Wyble <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 13:25:53 +1000 > Daniel Kasak <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yikes. I just finished telling my 7-year-old that dummy-spits are not >> the best way to get people to do what you'd like them to do. >> >> Anyway ... what you've done is create a .desktop file in >> ~/.local/share/applications ... as noted in this thread. Next, you >> need to add this to your launcher bar ( ibar ). Hit ALT + ESC >> together, then type either the name you gave the app, or the path to >> the app. If you don't see your app appear in the filtered list, your >> .desktop file has issues. Locate it and figure out what the issue is. >> If you *do* see the app, launch it, then CTRL + right-click it, and >> select: >> >> [app name] ( first item in menu ) ==> Add to IBar ==> default ( or >> whatever IBar ) >> >> It should now be in your launcher. >> >> I see now, looking at the right-click menu for IBar, that there is a >> "+ Contents" item. Clicking this allows me to browse existing icons >> and add them to the IBar. >> >> Users that have been with E for a while will also know that in >> ~/.e/e/applications/bar/default there is a ".order" file that you can >> add .desktop file names to. This was the very old way of adding icons >> to the IBar. >> >> There are lots of ways. >> >> As for the rest of the comments, I've been using various versions of E >> for the past 15 years or so. It's always been usable for me - actually >> it's always been the *most* usable for me. I also appreciate the >> mammoth effort in porting to Wayland - this will certainly pay off in >> the long term. >> >> Dan > > I understand there are "lots of ways", EXCEPT using the menu system > that is built into the desktop. I also have been using E for many years > but I wonder why one would have to jump through so many undocumented > hoops to get proper basic setup and usability for the piece of > software one is trying to use. If the Ibar setup menu choices were not > actually meant to act as one would presume, then why add those > choices? Why not document all these hoops somewhere where they can be > easily found? Don't get me wrong I love Enlightenment, always have. but > the desktop seems to be nothing but a testbed for EFL. If Enlightenment > desktop is meant to be used by the masses then it should perform as > expected when using it's own menu and configuration system. But it > doesn't. There are problems all over the desktop that need to be taken > care of. > > The point was not whether one could get E desktop to do what one > wanted, the point was that one couldn't get E desktop to perform these > actions through it's own desktop menu/interface system. And many times > there is just no way that one can, unless the SECRETS of how to > accomplish these feats are known. > > >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:58 PM, Larry Wyble <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 23:32:05 -0700 >> > Eric <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> On 06/03/2016 04:03 AM, Larry Wyble wrote: >> >> > On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 22:48:18 -0700 >> >> > Eric <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Can you give an example of what steps you are taking to create >> >> >> the launcher, what application you are trying to launch and >> >> >> what errors you are receiving? >> >> >> >> >> >> Otherwise I don't know if I can provide any help. >> >> >> >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> >> >> >> >> Eric >> >> > >> >> > Right click on the Ibar go up to ibar then click "create new >> >> > icon > then in the "Desktop Entry Editor" I put in the name, >> >> > application, then click icon and enter the icon name, them click >> >> > apply and close and nothing happens. It's like typing into >> >> > nothing and hoping that nothing actually does something for you. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks for replying >> >> > >> >> > >> >> That way is not working for me also but it does create a desktop >> >> file in the ~/.local/share/applications directory. >> >> >> >> Can you see if the entry is located there? If it is, try and drag >> >> it from the file manager to the ibar between some of the other >> >> application icons that are already there. >> >> >> >> I hope this works for you, >> >> >> >> kind regards, >> >> >> >> Eric >> > >> > Thanks Eric, but I think Jerry rigging is not the way this is >> > supposed to work. This should be working properly by using the >> > menus and apps built into Enlightenment, not by working around the >> > designed operation. This is supposed to be Basic usability and it's >> > not. It's ignored for the sake of NON-usability, IOW; Wayland. >> > Wayland is much more important than being able to use the desktop. >> > >> > Appreciate your replying to this. >> > Larry >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth >> >> and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, >> >> apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. 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