On Sat, 4 Jun 2016 13:25:53 +1000 Daniel Kasak <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yikes. I just finished telling my 7-year-old that dummy-spits are not > the best way to get people to do what you'd like them to do. > > Anyway ... what you've done is create a .desktop file in > ~/.local/share/applications ... as noted in this thread. Next, you > need to add this to your launcher bar ( ibar ). Hit ALT + ESC > together, then type either the name you gave the app, or the path to > the app. If you don't see your app appear in the filtered list, your > .desktop file has issues. Locate it and figure out what the issue is. > If you *do* see the app, launch it, then CTRL + right-click it, and > select: > > [app name] ( first item in menu ) ==> Add to IBar ==> default ( or > whatever IBar ) > > It should now be in your launcher. > > I see now, looking at the right-click menu for IBar, that there is a > "+ Contents" item. Clicking this allows me to browse existing icons > and add them to the IBar. > > Users that have been with E for a while will also know that in > ~/.e/e/applications/bar/default there is a ".order" file that you can > add .desktop file names to. This was the very old way of adding icons > to the IBar. > > There are lots of ways. > > As for the rest of the comments, I've been using various versions of E > for the past 15 years or so. It's always been usable for me - actually > it's always been the *most* usable for me. I also appreciate the > mammoth effort in porting to Wayland - this will certainly pay off in > the long term. > > Dan I understand there are "lots of ways", EXCEPT using the menu system that is built into the desktop. I also have been using E for many years but I wonder why one would have to jump through so many undocumented hoops to get proper basic setup and usability for the piece of software one is trying to use. If the Ibar setup menu choices were not actually meant to act as one would presume, then why add those choices? Why not document all these hoops somewhere where they can be easily found? Don't get me wrong I love Enlightenment, always have. but the desktop seems to be nothing but a testbed for EFL. If Enlightenment desktop is meant to be used by the masses then it should perform as expected when using it's own menu and configuration system. But it doesn't. There are problems all over the desktop that need to be taken care of. The point was not whether one could get E desktop to do what one wanted, the point was that one couldn't get E desktop to perform these actions through it's own desktop menu/interface system. And many times there is just no way that one can, unless the SECRETS of how to accomplish these feats are known. > On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:58 PM, Larry Wyble <[email protected]> > wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 23:32:05 -0700 > > Eric <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On 06/03/2016 04:03 AM, Larry Wyble wrote: > >> > On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 22:48:18 -0700 > >> > Eric <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > >> >> > >> >> Can you give an example of what steps you are taking to create > >> >> the launcher, what application you are trying to launch and > >> >> what errors you are receiving? > >> >> > >> >> Otherwise I don't know if I can provide any help. > >> >> > >> >> Kind regards, > >> >> > >> >> Eric > >> > > >> > Right click on the Ibar go up to ibar then click "create new > >> > icon > then in the "Desktop Entry Editor" I put in the name, > >> > application, then click icon and enter the icon name, them click > >> > apply and close and nothing happens. It's like typing into > >> > nothing and hoping that nothing actually does something for you. > >> > > >> > Thanks for replying > >> > > >> > > >> That way is not working for me also but it does create a desktop > >> file in the ~/.local/share/applications directory. > >> > >> Can you see if the entry is located there? If it is, try and drag > >> it from the file manager to the ibar between some of the other > >> application icons that are already there. > >> > >> I hope this works for you, > >> > >> kind regards, > >> > >> Eric > > > > Thanks Eric, but I think Jerry rigging is not the way this is > > supposed to work. This should be working properly by using the > > menus and apps built into Enlightenment, not by working around the > > designed operation. This is supposed to be Basic usability and it's > > not. It's ignored for the sake of NON-usability, IOW; Wayland. > > Wayland is much more important than being able to use the desktop. > > > > Appreciate your replying to this. > > Larry > > > > > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth > >> and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, > >> apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides > >> multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. > >> Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. > >> https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/305295220;132659582;e > >> _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users > >> mailing list [email protected] > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? 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