On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 07:10:52 +1030 Simon Lees <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> On 11/17/2015 08:05 PM, David Seikel wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 18:07:26 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 13:34:06 +1000 David Seikel <[email protected]>
> >> said:
> >>
> >>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 11:56:50 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The
> >>> Rasterman) <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 10:56:13 +0000 [email protected] (Stefano
> >>>> M.) said:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hello,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I build EFL and Enlightenment from git using the PKGBUILD files
> >>>>> provided.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I currently have installed:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - enlightenment-git 0.19.99.20768.64ceff5-1
> >>>>> - efl-git 1.16.99.32217.69a8de5-1
> >>>>> - elementary-git 1.16.99.12276.779b834-1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The system works OK, but when I open the Enlightenment settings
> >>>>> panel the window is empty or it shows a snapshot of whatever is
> >>>>> in the background (e.g. web browser). This happens with any
> >>>>> Enlightenment setting window: screen blanking, window remembers,
> >>>>> etc.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any ideas of what might be causing this? I will be happy to
> >>>>> provide you with more information if you need.
> >>>> actually... do you have a "hybrid graphics" system? like nvidia +
> >>>> intel or ati
> >>>> + intel? just a hunch...
> >>> It's possible to have such a graphics system and not know about
> >>> it. For instance nVidia GTX xxxM (where xxx is a normal nVidia
> >>> graphics system model), have an Intel chip as the front end.
> >>> These are called Optimus, and are made mostly for laptops.  The
> >>> idea being that if you don't need the grunt of the nVidia side of
> >>> things, they just run the Intel side of things, using less power,
> >>> making your battery life longer.  The "M" at the end is a dead
> >>> give away, even if otherwise never mentioned.
> >> lspci ... you'd know it. intel graphics and nvidia graphics - most
> >> likely. :) i actually don't have any laptop with hybrid gfx. so all
> >> my systems work. the other guy who has such issues does have a
> >> hybrid system - it works on all his other machines except this one.
> >>
> >> i am wondering if this is the pattern. as such we don't drive or
> >> have much to do with the actual back-end of this. we deal with
> >> glx+gl or egl+gles - what it runs on is below this layer. though
> >> we do bypass down to this layer for vsync events (direct to drm
> >> device).
> >>
> >> right now i am trying to find out what is common among those with
> >> this problem, as i see zero issues on any machine i have - across 3
> >> different intel systems (with different cpu/gpu types and
> >> generations), an ati machine (pure ati - an old core 2 duo laptop)
> >> and 2 nvidia desktops. zero issues. :/
> >>
> >> i can keep hunting. i can try my other nvidia laptop where it
> >> actually uses nouveau drivers ... but i suspect it'll work too.
> > I have an ASUS ROG GR6 on my desk, with an NVIDIA GeForce GTX
> > 960M.  The only device I have with one of those hybrid graphics
> > systems.  It belongs to a client, with Windows 8.1 on it, and it
> > wont be getting any other OS installed on it.  So I can't test out
> > Enlightenment on it.
> If you have a spare USB3 Flash drive you could always put a Linux
> image on it and test from there, Yes its the crazy world where in
> where my PC will boot faster off a flash drive I plug in then its
> (HDD)

Plus some time to actually do this would help.  As I mentioned below,
time to play with this machine wont happen until after this project is
complete, and only if I actually buy this ROG.

> > It's likely that after this project is finished, I might buy it from
> > the client, to be used as a Windows development box for my virtual
> > world work (which is what the client has me doing anyway).  Then
> > I'll be getting EFL running on it under Windows (not something the
> > client wants), and I could dual boot it into Linux at that time to
> > help out with this, if it's still needed.
> >
> > I gotta be busy with this current contract though, tight deadline
> > and a lot of work to get through.
> >
> >> :/ WHY does this happen?
> >>
> >>> Oculus Rift developers are having a hard time with these, as
> >>> Oculus has dropped support for them, though laptops are popular
> >>> for demos, coz it's easier to carry one around.  I had a hard
> >>> time with one, before I discovered that the client will be using
> >>> laptops for their Rift stuff, so we decided to stick with the
> >>> last Rift SDK that supported nVidia Optimus.
> >>>
> >>> I have no idea what the ATI versions are like.


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